Gamepro: PS3 faster than Xbox 360, but harder to work with

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Originally Posted by saaya

its a common marketing comment nowadays if a product doesnt perform.
its the firmware/driver/software not using it properly.

blablabla... show me a game on ps3 that looks much better than a game on xbox360 to prove this or shut up sony! :P

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Eh, not sure I'd say it looks better than everything on X360, but Uncharted looks pretty good.

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Originally Posted by Ub3r-L33ch

Good stuff there. IIRC Tekken 5 DR is already on the PS network too.

And correct me if I'm wrong, I don't know all the technicalities, but consoles have always been better at utilizing hardware than a PC right? Because the hardware is strictly used for games? So eventhough the 7 series nVidia card on the PS3 is a slightly toned down version doesn't mean it is crap.

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Tekken 5 DR is already on the PS Network... They're releasing an update for it which will give it online play, as well as a few updates(like the missing practice mode).

Personally, I can't wait for it, and will likely buy a PS3 at T5: DR's online launch. Tekken just runs in my blood, as I have spent more time playing tekken then any other game out.

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Originally Posted by DilTech

Eh, not sure I'd say it looks better than everything on X360, but Uncharted looks pretty good.



Tekken 5 DR is already on the PS Network... They're releasing an update for it which will give it online play, as well as a few updates(like the missing practice mode).

Personally, I can't wait for it, and will likely buy a PS3 at T5: DR's online launch. Tekken just runs in my blood, as I have spent more time playing tekken then any other game out.

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Oh yeah I heard about the update, that is cool. I love the Tekken series as well. I played the hell out of regular Tekken5 and got pretty damn good with Nina, I heard they toned her down some in the DR version, among some other characters that got toned down as well...

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Originally Posted by Ub3r-L33ch

Oh yeah I heard about the update, that is cool. I love the Tekken series as well. I played the hell out of regular Tekken5 and got pretty damn good with Nina, I heard they toned her down some in the DR version, among some other characters that got toned down as well...

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Steve got hit the hardest in terms of toning down, of course he needed it. Tekken 5.0 was 100% steve's game, especially with his 1,2,1~flk, alb + 2. Now when in flicker stance he has to throw atleast one punch before he can go into the albatross cross.

Bryan, who's becoming one of my favorite characters rather quickly now that I've mastered his wall set-ups(bryan is GOD on wall 1,2,1,d/f+3 FTW!) ironically enough didn't get toned down in the slightest.

As for nina, I'm not too sure about her, she's not a character I play since I'm not trying to learn more than one major throw character and I've already got king down to a science. U/f+4, f+2,2, 1, ISW FTW! It's just too bad he doesn't have anything guarenteed after a CH f+3 anymore.

Maybe when this gets released we can play a few matches? :D :yepp: :up:

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Originally Posted by DilTech

Also, for the record the RSX is based on the G71, it's 90nm you know.

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Check the specs. Just because its 90nm, doesn't make it G71. G71 has some differences other than being a 90nm of the G70...

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Originally Posted by ahmad

Check the specs. Just because its 90nm, doesn't make it G71. G71 has some differences other than being a 90nm of the G70...

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G71 has shorter pipelines and was actually slower clock vs clock than the G70 if you wish to get technical, so in all honesty if it's a 90nm G70 then that's a good thing. ;)

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

I know the PS3 is a technological marvel and all that hooblooey, but at the end of the day, my PC is still better then the PS3. so guess what I play my games on?

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Its not. Thats what SONY and the fanboys make it out to be.

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Originally Posted by DilTech

G71 has shorter pipelines and was actually slower clock vs clock than the G70 if you wish to get technical, so in all honesty if it's a 90nm G70 then that's a good thing. ;)

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Doesn't make it any less handicapped.

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Originally Posted by Ub3r-L33ch

How many generations of consoles have you played?

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atari... whichever one had "river raid". that was my game back then.
nintendo. too many games to name... but I'd say the gaurdian legend was my favorite for that era.
genesis, SNES. too many games to name. loved tons. a few... Final Fantasy 2. (I dont care what its called in japan) phantasy star 2,3,4. street fighter 2 alpha.
playstation. honestly, this list would be endless. castlvania comes to mind though as a stand out... final fantasy 7. so many games to go on this list...
PS2... Xbox. too many to name... again. halo. hunter:the reckoning. final fantasy 10. too many to name...
gamecube metroid prime series. thats the only reason I had one, and it was good enough. amazing games.
Dreamcast. first true high def system as far as I am concerned. DC + VGA adaptor = beautiful.
Xbox 360. kameo, gears of war, call of duty 3, EDF. so many fun games.

played the PS3 and WII at work, and friends houses.
both great, both systems I would like to get.
just never can commit to it, since my PC and 360 keep me pretty happy as a gamer already.

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

atari... whichever one had "river raid". that was my game back then.
nintendo. too many games to name... but I'd say the gaurdian legend was my favorite for that era.
genesis, SNES. too many games to name. loved tons. a few... Final Fantasy 2. (I dont care what its called in japan) phantasy star 2,3,4. street fighter 2 alpha.
playstation. honestly, this list would be endless. castlvania comes to mind though as a stand out... final fantasy 7. so many games to go on this list...
PS2... Xbox. too many to name... again. halo. hunter:the reckoning. final fantasy 10. too many to name...
gamecube metroid prime series. thats the only reason I had one, and it was good enough. amazing games.
Dreamcast. first true high def system as far as I am concerned. DC + VGA adaptor = beautiful.
Xbox 360. kameo, gears of war, call of duty 3, EDF. so many fun games.

played the PS3 and WII at work, and friends houses.
both great, both systems I would like to get.
just never can commit to it, since my PC and 360 keep me pretty happy as a gamer already.

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I've played all those except the Atari, you got me beat there. :D

I'm like you though, PCs will always have the better graphics in their games over the console versions, but consoles do have their advantages, some that I mentioned earlier. Starting in 2000 I have probably put more hours in to a PC than a console, pre-2000 I spent more time on consoles. I just look forward to the good games on the PS3, mainly the ones that wont be coming to PC.

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Originally Posted by ahmad

Doesn't make it any less handicapped.

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Handicapped in a PC maybe. In a console it will do great. I wish it was the better version, but hell man, the PS2 had like 4mb VRAM IIRC and wasn't that great of technology IIRC, look what kind of games came out for it, and they STILL have games coming out this year for it ... now imagine what the developers could do with a G70 or whatever it is.

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Originally Posted by Ub3r-L33ch

Handicapped in a PC maybe. In a console it will do great. I wish it was the better version, but hell man, the PS2 had like 4mb VRAM IIRC and wasn't that great of technology IIRC, look what kind of games came out for it, and they STILL have games coming out this year for it ... now imagine what the developers could do with a G70 or whatever it is.

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If you think G7x has potential, imagine what the Xenos GPU can do. PS3 devs are putting more work in the textures and everyone goes oooh and aaaah when they don't realize that good textures look good on a GF2 (case in point, Ninja Gaiden).

ahem... -->:horse:

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Originally Posted by Kunaak

atari... whichever one had "river raid". that was my game back then.
nintendo. too many games to name... but I'd say the gaurdian legend was my favorite for that era.
genesis, SNES. too many games to name. loved tons. a few... Final Fantasy 2. (I dont care what its called in japan) phantasy star 2,3,4. street fighter 2 alpha.
playstation. honestly, this list would be endless. castlvania comes to mind though as a stand out... final fantasy 7. so many games to go on this list...
PS2... Xbox. too many to name... again. halo. hunter:the reckoning. final fantasy 10. too many to name...
gamecube metroid prime series. thats the only reason I had one, and it was good enough. amazing games.
Dreamcast. first true high def system as far as I am concerned. DC + VGA adaptor = beautiful.
Xbox 360. kameo, gears of war, call of duty 3, EDF. so many fun games.

played the PS3 and WII at work, and friends houses.
both great, both systems I would like to get.
just never can commit to it, since my PC and 360 keep me pretty happy as a gamer already.

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I may be young but i've filled a lot of console gaming into that time :yepp:

Atari 2600 (dad's old one), ST 1024, Jaguar
Amiga 512 (played my mates)
Commodore VIC-20 & C64 (both handed down to me)
Sega Master System, Master System 2, Mega Drive, Mega Drive II, Mega CD, Saturn, Dreamcast (all owned by me)
Nintendo NES, SNES, N64, Gamecube (played a mates GC, same for Wii)
Sony PS1, PS2, PS3, PSP (all currently owned)
Microsoft XBOX, XBOX 360 (XBOX sold & X360 downstairs)

River Raid was on the 2600 & the 8-bit.

If I was to mention games i'd be here all year remembering & wanting to play them but suffice to say Ikari Warriors on the Atari ST was my fave of the oldies.