Kinc found a picture on his USB flash drive

Wow. On air and stock cooler. My god thats insanity.

if thats true i own one.

Edit - Didn't mean to sound like i dont trust you kinc, of course I believe in your results, what i meant was that if retail samples perform like this I own one.

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Kinc nice
hopefully i will get 8.37 tomorrow

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes true, GeForce 8800 GTX and Ultra are the most powerful graphics cards in the market.

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Is that after the release of the HD 2900's?

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Originally Posted by DilTech

Is that after the release of the HD 2900's?

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Yes.. HD 2900 XT (there won't be any other models) will compete against GTS.

http://www.nordichardware.com/news-pics/47.jpg

Source

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//Andreas

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

Yes.. HD 2900 XT (there won't be any other models) will compete against GTS.

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Yeah Sampsa, thats true, but seeing these scores lately, i don't think that even hard clocked GTS can match 29XT. And new drivers will bring better performance for 29XT, that will make GTS fall behind by large margin.

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Originally Posted by Kasparz

Yeah Sampsa, thats true, but seeing these scores lately, i don't think that even hard clocked GTS can match 29XT. And new drivers will bring better performance for 29XT, that will make GTS fall behind by large margin.

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True in 3dmark, not true in games.

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Originally Posted by Sampsa

True in 3dmark, not true in games.

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Ouch, so those 3dmark scores are no indication of in game performance? That would suck mucho.

I had a feeling it was going to be that way and with Sampsa himself more or less saying the same thing I am not looking forward to the gaming results with this card. If all you do is run 06 than this card is for you otherwise its Nvidia or another 4 month wait for ATI's 'refresh' offering.

Sampsa, can you say anything on if a Swiftech MCW60 can fit on the card or not?

ati went with stability first with the drivers.
Performance will go up.

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Originally Posted by flopper

ati went with stability first with the drivers.
Performance will go up.

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I'd say they had plenty of time to produce stable and fast drivers, this would give credit to Brother Esau's perpetual rant about their drivers programmers, it's not any better at Nvidia right now tho'.

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Originally Posted by deathman20

Sampsa, can you say anything on if a Swiftech MCW60 can fit on the card or not?

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I just tested with a waterblock without shim and it works fine if you tighten the bults really really hard :)

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Originally Posted by Kinc

I just tested with a waterblock without shim and it works fine if you tighten the bults really really hard :)

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Glad to hear ordering a water setup soon and wanted to make sure so I can hopefully prep the case before the card arrives. Thanks Kinc.

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Originally Posted by Kinc

I just tested with a waterblock without shim and it works fine if you tighten the bults really really hard :)

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hello again kinc, when you say without the shim do you mean the shim on the card itself around the gpu or the shim you put in to fill the 1mm gap , so as long as the gpu waterblock is bolted tight a thin shim may not be required, if you could confirm that that'd be grat, keep up the good work

Glen

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Originally Posted by GLENBOY

hello again kinc, when you say without the shim do you mean the shim on the card itself around the gpu or the shim you put in to fill the 1mm gap , so as long as the gpu waterblock is bolted tight a thin shim may not be required, if you could confirm that that'd be grat, keep up the good work

Glen

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Sorry I ment without the coldplate. The waterblock I am using covers the shim around the gpu wich is slighty higher then the die. I did a test where i first tightend the bolts like I usually do and wasnt quite happy with the contact. I tested too tighten a bit more (I stopped when the pcb started to bend;) ), and the contact was as good as ever. I am still recomendng you to use a coldplate so you minimize the risk of dmaging the card.

So Oc'ed the 8800gtx's will still hold the records for this round even in 06?

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Sorry I ment without the coldplate. The waterblock I am using covers the shim around the gpu wich is slighty higher then the die. I did a test where i first tightend the bolts like I usually do and wasnt quite happy with the contact. I tested too tighten a bit more (I stopped when the pcb started to bend;) ), and the contact was as good as ever. I am still recomendng you to use a coldplate so you minimize the risk of dmaging the card.

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thanks kinc i have been looking all over for some 1 mm copper sheet with no luck so hopefully i'll get away with not using one, i know your busy but i appreciate you taking the time to answer, a pair of these should work well in my old p5w-dh , thanks again, you're still the man ;) Oh on a side note would you recommend using ram sinks on the upper side of the card as well,as the ram chips are on both sides on these or is this not really neccessary with these thanks

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thanks kinc i have been looking all over for some 1 mm copper sheet with no luck so hopefully i'll get away with not using one, i know your busy but i appreciate you taking the time to answer, a pair of these should work well in my old p5w-dh , thanks again, you're still the man ;) Oh on a side note would you recommend using ram sinks on the upper side of the card as well,as the ram chips are on both sides on these or is this not really neccessary with these thanks

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http://www.petrastechshop.com/2x2x1cobl.html

1/4" thick copper but only $6 and petras rocks

well this looks promising :)

Kinc goes subzero:

http://www.kinc.se/2900/1147.jpg

And this is far from the peak ;)

From: source

//Andreas

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thanks kinc i have been looking all over for some 1 mm copper sheet with no luck so hopefully i'll get away with not using one, i know your busy but i appreciate you taking the time to answer, a pair of these should work well in my old p5w-dh , thanks again, you're still the man ;) Oh on a side note would you recommend using ram sinks on the upper side of the card as well,as the ram chips are on both sides on these or is this not really neccessary with these thanks

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If you have an old cpu cooler or other heatsink with thin copper or aluminium fins you can rip that appart, thats what I did :)

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Kinc goes subzero

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Thoose clocks seems very promising. Keep it up. ;)

Can I get back to the earlier point about synthetic benchies vs real world gaming?

What do we think the real world gaming / 3d performance is gonna be like on these *mystery* cards...sky high or dive bomb?