eva, tried TRC of 7 with these sticks?
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eva, tried TRC of 7 with these sticks?
yeah Trc tighter needs more vdimm... but i'm retesting the ram now on different cpu as i sold my 3500+ clawhammers and back on 3200+ winnie now
well, please post how it works out. It strikes me a bit odd that the "ch-5" can run 2-2-2-5-7-15-2-2-1-2, up to about 240 avg @ 3.2v, but these "bh-5" cannot... :stick: (refering to these problem sticks, not yours)
all depends on each AMD64 cpu's ondie memory controller :)
of course i can do Trc for simple superpi 1m and 3dmark benchies but i doubt it's 24/7 prime stable
Dammit, I keep getting errors with those settings...
You would expect it to run default speeds at those timings... that's lower bandwidth than leaving evreything at auto except 2-2-2-5... Especially at 2.9-3.0v...
I can't imagine me getting any lower bandwidth than I'm at already but it couldn't hurt trying...
If all else faile, I will shove my 3200+ Winnie in to see if the CPU is at fault... Mind you, this 3500+ did 2.4Ghz w/out much problems on a p.o.s K8N Neo2...
AAARRRGGHH!!!
Any other tips??
Maybe the board perhaps??
Minh
Really? I wonder why that is. These "ch-5" didn't really respond until i changed Trc to 7. :confused: I gotta get a set of these sticks and play a bit, ithink.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
try the other cpu and seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Minnyboy
I don't get this at all...
One minute nothing works & then the next minute everything is fine...
I went into the bios, set it to 2.8v, set timings to 2-2-2-5, Bank Interleave disabled, R/W Queue Bypass = 8x, Bypass Max = 4x & ran Memtest & it was fine for 3 passes...
That is with more enhanced settings with the "AMD64" options in Memtest...
Set to 2-1-8-15.6us-7-2-2 & it passed... WTF?? This is at 2.8v.... Got 2466MB/s too...
Now trying the same but setting those same settings in the line above in the bios but with vdimm at 2.9v & 205HTT... Nearly 1 pass done...
Not giving up yet... Not with a RAM specialist like eva2000 helping me out :toast:
I'll probably dust off the K8N Neo2 (doing service as an internet rig/ waste of money huh??) & give it a go there as well... Seems to like my 2x256MB BH5 so I guess we'll see whether it likes 2x512MB or not...
Enough rambling, gotta get back to testing...
Cheers,
Minh
Glad to see your getting it to work. I can't wait for mine to turn up tomorrow. Then I can have a play. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Minnyboy
bump !!!
I just picked up a set of these(2x512mb) and I'm having a strange problem. First the good.
2.6V=205fsb 2-2-2-7 Sweet
2.7V=210fsb 2-2-2-7 both memtest clean
The Bad: 215fsb failed at 2.8 all the way up to 3.3V. they will not run over 215fsb on my setup, which is capable of 254fsb 3.4V TMSP
Right now I'm testing individually and first stick is screaming along at 3.0Volt 245fsb 2-2-2-8 no sweat. So the problem is running both sticks at the same time at anything over 215fsb, seems they don't like my nf3? I've tried swapping slots etc.. and have a nice fan blowing directly on them.
long thread... what memory oc best and stable?
I've had enough of these temporamental sticks...
I'm RMAing them because these ones have a mind of their own... Sometimes they run 200 @ 2-2-2-5 @ 2.8v no probs, the next time they error out badly...
Even when i relax the timings of everything else...
AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!!
Hey Minny, what BIOS are you using on this ram? I would just crank that voltage up. Diabling Bank Interleave is killing performance as well.
Have you tried 331-1 beta bios?
I ordered this ram but it wont be here until mon.
Tried all the bioses that have been suggested from different forum members including from the OCZ Reps themselves to no avail...
310 = no good. 331-1 = no good. 331-2 = no good. 331-3 = np good. 414-3 = np good. 414-1 = no good. 414-2 = no good..
That's 1 out of 4 setof of OCZ RAM that I've had that was good...
PC3700GOLD rev1 RMAed because it wouldn't run dividers...
VX4000GOLD RMAED because it wouldn't run at specs...
PC3200GOLD gonna be RMAed because of no running at specs...
The only good one was the PC3700GOLD rev2 that I got as a replacement for the PC3700GOLD rev1... Only problem was OCZ decided to change the specs & loosen the timings... But hey, at least they worked at specs...
sounds like a memory controller or mobo problem. i'm thinking the former
heck of a run of bad luck :(
Anyone running these on a nf3 ? Individually they rock at 255fsb 3.3V 2-2-2-7 but together they fail memtest anything over 210fsb.
I will do some more testing when I get a chance, but mine sounds like it MIGHT be similar to yours. Using 2x512mb 3200 Gold in DFI nF3 and 3700+, I have vmodded the 3.3 rail to vdimm, so my vdimm is always a little less than the actual 3.3 PSU rail. Using a little over 3.3v measured from dimm slot under load, they passed memtest fine so far at stock 200mhz 2-2-2-5. I tried 225mhz, and got hundreds of thousand of errors :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Toro 45
So I will try what you said, about testing the sticks individually. Hopefully they will do a little better....
yeah Minnyboy that does sound like bad luck, i'd think you might try a different cpu for a better mem controller as it can make a huge difference.. i sold all my 3500 CAA2C Clawhammer cpus and went back to my old 3200+ 0445 VPMW winnie my max mem clocks on Gskill PC4400LE ram dropped from 300-315mhz to 293-296mhz with my winnie on same DFI NF4 SLI-D. My 2x 256MB BH-5 dropped from max 281mhz 2-2-2-5/6 back to 273-275mhz 2-2-2-5/6 with winnie.
Venice has better memory controller then winnie ?
From what i have seen, yes, it appears so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
midroaster says they're about the same oc'ing wise just venice handles 4x double sided modules at DDR400 at 2T instead of DDR333 at 2T on winniesQuote:
Originally Posted by The Mofo
clawhammers seem to still have best mem controllers for oc'ing though
Does sound similar to my problem, when I try a fsb like 225 or 235 I dont just get a couple of hundred errors it's more like 30,000-40,000. Are you using the same 10/15/04 bios as me?Quote:
Originally Posted by twilius_basic
I thought BH-5 was discontinued at the end of 2003. Has that changed?Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
When has Winbond started to build these new chips marked as BH-5?
Thought they didn't test them anymore to 200MHz... or any other speed.
AFAIK Winbond BH-5 and this "new BH-5" aren't even built using the same process. Old Winbond BH-5 was 175nm, this "new BH-5" is 150nm. (correct if I'm wrong)
So, these chips are not BH-5. More like something between BH- and CH-dies.
I see many RAM mfgs advertising them as "BH-5".
(Where I live, advertising these chips to be BH-5 would technically be illegal)
Nope I'm on the 04-08 iirc. And yeah when I tried 225fsb, I just exited memtest when it got to about 80,000 errors, since I didn't feel like watching the list go on indefinately.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Toro 45
As far as I know these are blank BH-5 chips fabbed by winbond for samsung or infineon (forget which of the two it was). They use the same process as the original BH-5 chips.Quote:
Originally Posted by largon
Minnyboy I hope you don't give up on them untill you try them with another cpu/motherboard. Have you tried testing them one at a time?
Winbond builds CH/BH-UTT using technology from Infineon. Thus Infineon prohibited Winbond to label the IC's.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
TwinMos rep. (Alonso) about CH/BH-UTT process'Quote:
CH-5 / AA4T / AA=0,13um 4=Winbond
BH-5 / 1A4T /1A=0,15um 4=Winbond Edit3: *untrue*
Edit: Found this datasheet. There are only 175nm (BH-x) and 130nm (CH-x) chips listed...
Edit2: Techpowerup & TwinMos Twister BH-5: Orig. BH = 175nm
Edit3: I asked Alonso about it: BH-UTT is 175nm afterall.
@Anyone: PM me if you have a datasheet for Winbond BH-5 and CH/BH-UTT!
I've finally given up on them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Toro 45
Tested on an 3200+/MSI K8N Neo2/Antec 550w PSU & just let Memtest run its course without changing anything but the basic timings to 2-2-2-5...
Oh yeah, I tried 2.8v, 2.9v & 3v & still errors... No Overclocks, just stock trying to do what these sticks are rated to do...
Got 35 errors after an hour or so..
Went into bios, adjusted "DRAM Drive Strength" from "Normal" to "Weak"...
Re-ran Memtest.... Wanted to let it run for 24 hours, if it passes that, then I call it stable....
Failed after 52 passes of the standard test... Errored out at Test 7 so I restarted Memtest again just to make sure & at the it failed at Test 7 again after 1 pass...
And just to make sure that my 3500+ Winnie's memory controller or DFI SLI-D was at fault, I re-tested my 2x256MB XMS3500 (BH5) @ 11x220 @ 1.5v with these settings for the RAM:
200 1:1
CPC: enabled
2-2-5-2-2-7-14-2-2-1-2-3120-auto-enabled-auto-0-level2-level1-auto-auto-256 Cycles-08x-04x-Disable
4 hours later & not 1 single error...
Re-ran Memtest again with the same settings except I changed "DRAM Drive Strength" to Level4 & again 4 hours+ & not a single error...
Running Memtest with Drive Strength set to "Level8" now...
Now I just gotta get back my other 2x256MB XMS3500 that I loaned to my mate thinking that I had some kick-a$$ RAM now & didn't need it anymore while I wait for this RMA procedure...
Never should've sold my 2x512MB XMS3500 to get VX4000 (because I fell for the "DDR500 @ 2-2-2-8 @ 3.3v!!") in the first place... then I wouldn't have had to go through this...
Faulty VX4000, now faulty PC3200 GOLD (WINBOND BH-die!!!)...
One Unhappy Camper...
Minnyboy :( :( :(
256's wont put the same load on the memory controller as 512's.
Minnyboy, the Neo2 has a known issue with DDR voltage when you set tRCD=2. Are you running a booster? Booster in slot 4 memory in slots 1&2 (closest to CPU?)
Im just curious what the highest u guys are getting ur ram too. I got my ram a couple days ago and after a 8 hour burn in i noticed i got signi:banana::banana::banana:ntly better clocks. First day I was getting 240 2-2-2-9 and after the burn in i can do 270 2-2-2-8 heres the validation linky
http://valid.x86-secret.com/show_oc?id=15346
THat was a 3.55v. I can Memtest (test 5) for over 30 passes at 268 2-2-2-8
and i can get into windows at 273 at 3.88v!
Kudos
geez i still haven't done a burn in on this ram as been switching cpus etc... must do some burn in sessions :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shawnister
can you pass memtest86+ 1.55.1 test #8 too as those speeds and superpi 32m ?
a64tweaker settings ? bios version ? settings ?
Update. Messed with them a little more yesterday. With vdimm at 3.34v under load, both sticks are good for 240mhz+, but together they go apesh|t above 210mhz :(
You guys think that's the mem controller's fault on my 3700+? Mobo?
Never tried this ram on DFI NF3 250Gb but if it's like DFI NF4 play with Tref and drive strength settings and interleave off and on
decided to start a new thread as i changed my cpu and other stuff http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=61204 :)
Yes I am running it with a booster in the slots you stated...Quote:
Originally Posted by RyderOCZ
Minh
Have you tried them at 2T? and what multiplier have you tried? Like me I'm sure you expect to run at 1T and the multi you would normaly use. I've already pulled mine but was wondering if 2T might work, I only tried the 9X multi. Now I'm tempted to put them back in and try 8X and 2TQuote:
Originally Posted by twilius_basic
Minny - is your booster malfunctioning?
use a DMM and monitor the voltage while its at idle and under load.
If my booster was malfunctioning, my 2x256MB XMS3500 would not be able to run at 250MHz @ 2-2-2-5 @ 3.3v..Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Anyways, pls let me know how to go about measuring the voltage of my booster & I'll give it a shot...
Minh
measure from any point that gives a vdimm reading: missing capacitor, pin7 of dimm slot, output leg of vdimm mosfet, etc. Backside of the booster will have some measurement points too.
what is your max eva ?
any chance it could do 250-260 fsb on my Intel (P5P800 + 640) @ 2-2-2-5 ?
No need to measure anything anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
W/out Booster & set to 2-3-2-5 I get all sorts of errors now...
That's with
Rd-Wr @ 4
Wr-Rd @ 2
Refresh @ 7.8us
Command @ 1T
Row Cycle @ 12
Ras-Tas @ 3 or 4
Write Recovery @ 3...
Whacks it in my DFI & 3.0v @ 2-3-2-5 & everything else set @ auto & getting lots more errors now...
Tried 2-2-2-5 & auto evrything & it was even worse... That's at 200HTT 1:1... 2.8v, 2.9v, 3.0v.. Didn't bother to try any higher...
Oh, with the booster in my K8N Neo2, & Vdimm set at 2.85 in the bios, it says 2.7v when the knob is turned all the way left... Happened before but still ran fine with my 256MB XMS sticks...
Using a measly pair of KVR500 @ 3.0v @ the moment until my PC3200 GOLD come back from RMA...
Minh
I think eva's max is around 266 with the setup in this thread...Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
Chack on the "PC3200 GOLD part 2" thread as he's changed components & started a different thread to relate to that...
IIRC, he was able to do 260 24/7 & 266 with more volts...
Minh
I can run interleave enabled @ 272, this screen was @ 270Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...Sandrashot.jpg
with 414-3 bios bh-5 now likes interleave for me but it does lower max clock a few mhz
max with OCZ PC3200 Gold BH-5 is 260mhz 2-2-2-6 stable and just on the verge of getting 266mhz 2-2-2-6 to work heh
Im stuck at at 240 1.5,2,2,6 and its not budging. nothing but errors at 2,2,2,6 or 7 above 245. :mad:
have you tried a64tweaker settings from others, like eva's?
for me cas 1.5 errors must faster and less stable than cas 2
mofo what vdimm ya using and bios timings /Tref ?
Eva, i duplicated your settings to a tee and i cant even do them at 220 fsb. My sticks do NOT like voltage. Anything past 3.2 and its error city times 10 bro.
The only thing i can change is the cas latency, trcd and trp. Everything else is left to auto. 240 is my max fsb with these sticks.
So now i have a bunk set of Mushkin which is being sent back and a bunk set of OCZ, which sadly, ive never have been disappointed with until now. It does the rated speed of 2,2,2,6 at 200, so i guess 240 isnt nothing to :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: about but still, for $193 shipped, i felt i could of spent it somewhere else. Sadly the Mushkin at 275 with 2.5,3,3 beat my OCZ at 240 with 1.5,2,2 in sandra, superpi and everest.
did you duplicate my settings in a64tweaker or in bios ? there's a difference i find, a64tweak set settings sometimes are tighter than exact same settings in bios and lead to instability while set in bios is rock stable in windows (tighter as in set in a64tweaker same settings is faster in benchmarks than when set in bios).
play with drive strength and TREF as these 3 settings make all the difference and depends on the cpu memory controller as well as the ram
swapped ram in same dimm slots as well ?
I used all of your settings in BIOS, not A64 tweaker. I used both orange and yellow slots, even swapping ram from one orange to the other orange. Burn in hasnt helped at all. 240 is it. I was excited when i saw you getting 260, thats what lead me to purchase these over the OCZ tccd modules since my mushkin cant do 275 without 3.1V stable. My OCZ EB3700 blows this new Gold out of the water. Not happy by any means.
I used all the different BIOS's for the DFI to no avail. Im glad you have had luck with your sticks.
How much voltage have you tried The_Mofo? Mine run nicely at 3.6 :)
Most ive taken it to was 3.5 in memtest with immediate errors, i mean immediate, 56980 within 60 seconds, i hit escaped and brought the voltage back down.. I have a 120 mm fan blow on them and an open case. Its certainly not heat related, thats for sure. If the volts come down, so do the errors.. At test 5 at 250 fsb at 3.2 v, ill get no errors until 99% and bam, 8,000 or so errors come blistering up at the 994.23mb mark.
Ill trade ya sticks, lol.
immediate errors in only test #5 or other tests too like test #1-3 ?
try my settings in part 2 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=61204 as that is for winnie not the clawhammer i have here
so you have played with every combination of drive strength, drive data strength and TREF yet ? it really does make a difference
which bios you on right now ?
#5 and 8 have nasty errors, 1-4 no prob, 6 and 7, no prob.
Yes, every combo and yes, used the settings from your second thread with your updated hardware.
Ive used every BIOS, im back to 414-3 now.
Guess that's the limit of your pair.. from your sig the exact opposite of what i achieved, my OCZ PC3200 GoldVX = 240mhz 2-2-2-6 my OCZ PC3200 Gold BH-5 = 260mhz 2-2-2-5 heh
LOL, i guess thats the way it goes i guess bro
Let's hope my sticks I get back from warranty at least do the speeds/timings @ 2.8v...
Maybe 3rd time lucky with this new generation of Winbond based chips...
I'm so jealous of most of you guys... I hadn't even tried OCing them & they were p.o.s sticks... My ones anyways...
Damn i hate using KVR RAM rated at 3-4-4-8... At least they're stable at said clocks/timings & I can tighten the timings with added volts...
One pi$$ed off OCer...
Those were about my limits on air, I didn't get the extra mhz until the chip was under phase cooling.Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
you mean phase change on cpu allowed mem to clock higher ?Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
Yes it did, and yes it does on A64. A cooler memory controller equates to higher clocks in most cases;)
Yeah, that's the impression I already got. Since my Mach2GT is still in Denmark for repairs (repairs are finished, waiting to be shipped), I am on stock sink with my crappy FX-55. And my KHX3200 could not do 270 anymore, when they could pass superpi 32m at 12x270 before...Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
I was wondering how the ram could decrease this much in performance/stability, and exactly what YOU said is my conclusion as well. :up:
ah that would explain it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by G H Z
But i bet if the memcontroller don't like the ram. under phasechange it makes it wrose?
I got the VX CH/UTT ic's.
And on air i can get 300x9 1.35v 133% 1.75v 3xHTT 166 mem = 245 3.3v 2-2-8-2-8-16-2-2-2 ect.. Runs stable as you could want.
Put it under my chilly1. and @ -47c. I CAN'T even get close to the setting ^ above.
I think like 285x9 1.35v 126% 3xHTT 180 mem.
think i need to try some GOLD BH ic's/ Ram. And maybe some TCCD.
If i can do 2700mhz on Air. ya would think i could do 2800mhz on phasechange :lol:
think i have the old CH die problem that intel suffered from. On my DFI-Sli lol
Peace Nugz
A bit OFF Topic but I came across 2x256MB BH-6 at my new workplace today...
Gonna get it home to play with while I wait for my PC3200 GOLD to come back...
There's something seriously wrong with my DFI/X850XT/520w OCZ setup... Even at stock clocks on the cpu & the same timings I was at before with my 2x256MB XMS3500 I get random reboots...
Checked the contact with Cpu/HSF & that was fine... RAM runs fine up to 3.2v 220 2-2-2-5-7-14-2-2-1-2-3120 (the settings are in one of my posts earlier in this thread me thinks)...
Same BSOD's & random reboots... Using 331-3 & 414-2 & -3 & still getting those probs...
I wonder if it could be that I flashed my X850XT with the bios of a PE (w/ VIVO disabled)??
Sorry bout going so far off topic... Waitning anxiously for my PC3200 GOLD to get back to give them another shot...
This time I play with more than 3.2v...
Minh
got some problem with my PC3200 Gold BH die in desynch
DDR set to 200 can go to 268 2/2/2/5
DDR set to 183 or 166 can't pass 230 :(
someone got some hint???
yea. play with max async and read preamble.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogotop
what board/bios and cpu ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogotop
Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
A64 3700+ SD
DFI NF4 SLI-DR
bios 310 official (tried 509-2 on my NF4 Ultra-D and my board just died...i fear beta bios now :p: )
thank alot dudeQuote:
Originally Posted by pershoot
now i can run over 260 in desynch
:toast:
good stuff:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Boogotop
Are they worth to try now when price is around 125$ ?
sure go for it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
now that's REDLINE are OOS on newegg :(
altho my OCZ VX 3200 works just fine 260 at 3.4v :)
eva2000,
I'm hoping for some of your magic.
I've been trying to push this little old pair of OCZ 2x 512MB PC3200 Gold for the longest time.
Venice 3000+ and K8NSC-939 (NF3).
I've taken these sticks as high as ~242, BUT this is with 3.54V!!! I need just over 3.4V for 240Mhz alone. And similarly, barely get over 220Mhz stable with 3.0V. I'm usin gOCZ DDR Booster BTW.
timings (A64teak format)
2-8-12-2-2-7-2-2-1-1
200 15.6us
max async = 7
read preamble = 5.5
I've tried adjusting each setting individually in hopes its just one thing holding me back, to no avail.
I've read about a dozen "guides" and tried various suggestions (like yours to increase trc to 12, and trfc to 14), but nothing seems to help. Its very frustrating, because when I boot up Memtest 1.65, test #5 will pass a few times.. even as high as 5 or 6 times, but then the errors start accumulating. I've tried "BURN-IN" this way in several 5-7hr sessions, but error count doesnt go away. Even, when running just 3.0V and two big badass fans blowing on the DIMMs.
any suggestions?
probably partly your board holding you back ? when did you get these PC3200 Gold, cause it could be higher binned ones later when to OCZ PC3500 Gold GX part instead now ?
i'd try max async 8 and/or premable 6ns/6.5ns as well
try swapping modules in same dimm slot too
Due to the size of the ddr booster, and slots being close together, I pretty much have to use the back two. So I only swaped between those two.
I tried raising max async and preammble to 8/6 but no higher.
Weak drive strength reduces oc by about 1Mhz. 2T increases oc by about 3Mhz!! Also, using 2.5-3-3-7 timings, I gain about 2Mhz. Hooray! (-_-)
I did individual DIMM tests, but they were only at low voltage (2.75V that mobo supports). Now trying to use in conjunction with DDR Booster and try each DIMM in each slot.
So far DIMM#1 in first slot is giving me a whopping 230Mhz+ with only 3.0V (thats up from about 219Mhz using 2 DIMMs)
I bought them July 2005.
check to see that the ddr booster isnt overheating or drooping under load.
BINGOQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Lets backtrack a bit first. I did a PSU + 3.3V cap mod on this board beforehand, and had about 238-240 with some intermitent errors (probably heat or noise introduced by mod related). With 3.3V cap mod, you dont actually get 3.3V on the DIMM... more like 3.0V or 3.1V. Obviously removed both before using OCZ DDR Booster.
Now, I did extensive testing with the OCZ DDR Booster at various voltage settings and seem to always need about 0.2V more than most peoply typically do.
Although I should have mentioned earlier, I also had some intermitent problems with the OCZ DDR Booster. Sometimes, during a run, or while switching applications, the voltage would just drop to BIOS set value, and typically the computer would hang at blank screen or restart. This started happening about the same time I started moving DIMMs around to test which slot is best for what...
hence, I removed the OCZ DDR Booster to to individual DIMM tests in each of the four slots (DDR = 2.75V in bios):
And also to test DIMM combinations (pairs):Code:2-12-14-2-2-7-2-2-2-1 200mhz 15.6us 7ns 5.5ns
m 219.93 219.93 219.93 219.07
o 216.49 216.49 217.35 217.35
As you may imagine this took considerably long time. Test of stability was "only" 100% of Windows memtest... this might seem puny, but when I had PSU mod, and typically 1 error in 100%, superpi, prime95, memtestx86, 3dmark, etc all worked fine, so I consider it to be quite sensitive.Code:both dimms 1 2 3 4
64 218.21 m o
no boot m o
no boot m o
128 216.49 o m
128 214.77 m o
128 214.77 m o
128 215.63 o m
If OCZ staff is reading, I am just shocked by the results... this RAM is just incredible. I am running 215Mhz with 2-2-7 timings WITHOUT the OCZ DDR Booster. I think I have excellent RAM, and the problem is elsewhere.
As stated earlier, using around 3.01V (idle), I got 1 stick up to 230Mhz, and another to 227Mhz. But combined only around 218-219Mhz... this, combined with "black outs" leads me to believe my OCZ DDR Booster may be damaged and have a poor contact somewhere.
*Note the voltage drop I refer to black out is not small. Lets say I have booster set to 3.3V, it would drop to BIOS setting, let say 2.5V... obviously computer stops working, because of too high Mhz/voltage. My OCZ DDR Booster also drops under load, but typically no more than 0.1V... so the 3.01V (idle) usually goes maybe 2.94 or 2.92 under load.
1, 2, 3, 4 - refer to DIMM slots starting from one closest to CPU
m, o - are nicknames for the two DIMMS. m for macho or max, since it performs better.
It's more than likely the NF3 single channel mem controller holding you back.Quote:
I think I have excellent RAM, and the problem is elsewhere.
look in my sig
K8NSC-939
K8NSC-939
I posted results for 64bit, and 128bit. I dont think I could get 128bit results with Socket754 NF3 ;)
In conclusion: yes, I am suing socket939 venice 3000+, and a socket939 motherboard, and thus when using both DIMMs, running 128bit, by using both channels. I hope we are all clear now.
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Does OCZ RMA OCZ DDR Booster? I obviously voided my memory warranty when I went 3.3, and even 3.4V. But is the booster still covered?
Those are pretty big drops for a direct vdimm supply.. should have no more than 0.05v droop at most really.Quote:
With 3.3V cap mod, you dont actually get 3.3V on the DIMM... more like 3.0V or 3.1V
My best guess is either the booster is overheating or the PSU is drooping. Could also be that the trace on it which carries VDIMM from(?) the mosfets is causing resistance. FUGGER had a booster do the same thing iirc, the burned trace looked pretty neat ;)
Upon your suggestion, I examined it, and didnt find anything that looked like burned traces (yeah, I know what to look for ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
I still think that something is loose. On OCZ support forum another guy had similar problem. When he pressed against the booster, voltage shot back up to the right value (in his case 3.2V). Similarly, after pulling and pushing (gently) the cables to it, and moving it around, and such, it would sometimes go back on. I would then delicately reposition the 120mm fan above it, and continue gaming, benchmarking or whatever, as if nothing happened.
The big hole in my hypothesis of poor connection is how opening apps, starting benchmark, etc.. would cause the voltage to drop. And we're not talking like "it just happned once in a thousand hours of use". I witnessed the voltage on the LED drop as I started windows memtest at least half-dozen times. Perhaps thermal expansion?
When I'm a bit more brave, and a little less sober, perhaps I will try again.. probably try different PSU too.
BTW: I tried OC with 1 small fan, 1 large fan or 2 large fans. Very small results difference. However, no fan = very hot memory, and many errors. All previous results I posted and 99.99% of all my use with booster has been with fan, regardless of how low voltage I used ;)
can someone explain this:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1322&page=7
are we talking about the same OCZ PC3200 Gold edition here... this Hexus crew surely didnt get BH5 if they are getting 276 with 2.5-3-3-7...
Im quite sure I have BH5 because of the "hates CAS3" and low-voltage 2-2-2-5 tests.
Easy. TCCD does 2-2-2-5 too. Noone said that it HAD to be TCCD under those heatspreaders. IT's the whole point of heatspreaders in the first place. If it does the advertised timings, all's well, at least in memoryland.
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Originally Posted by hexus
Don't forget, BH-5 has what SPD timings? That's why they pulled the 2.5-3-3-7 in for comparison. The review is a crock.
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Originally Posted by hexus
PLease read the top of the last graph on this page:
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=1322&page=7
what does it say?
:stick:
interesting first i've seen of OCZ PC3200 Gold TCCD and the review was 8 months old too! IIRC there was OCZ PC3200 Gold C2 which was TCCD http://www.ocztechnology.com/product...c_3200_gold_c2 ???Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
Now swapping back over to 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 and seems it does better with this Opteron 146 cpu instead of 260mhz 2-2-2-5 at 3.56v it's handling same speeds at 3.48v so far :)
Pretty fast too
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...rpi-8m_tnn.jpg
http://www.fileshosts.com/DFI/NF4_SL...pi-32m_tnn.jpg
eva2000, you're my no1 - you are the wind beneath my wings!
hehe
my 146 cpu max is 3150mhz so thought i'd go after my 32M personal best time which was done with 2x 512MB XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 but this time with 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5
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:: 2x 512MB Corsair XMS3500C2v1.1 BH-5 ::
10x315HTT = 3150Mhz
166 divider
262mhz 2-2-2-5 7-14 2223 at 3.48v vdimm in bios
:: Super Pi v1.4 mod
32M = 22m 56.875s old/current personal best
32M = 22m 57.859s
vs
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:: 2x 512MB OCZ PC3200 Gold UTT BH-5 ::
10x315HTT = 3150Mhz
166 divider
262mhz 2-2-2-5 7-14/16 2223 at 3.54v vdimm in bios
:: Super Pi v1.4 mod
8M = 4m 48.765s
32M = 22m 57.984s
:: Super Pi v1.5 XS
262mhz 2-2-2-5 7-16 2223 at 3.54v vdimm in bios
8M = 4m 48.516s new personal best 8M time
32M = 22m 56.890s 0.015s behind my old 32M PB soooo close hehe
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Hi can i use OCZ 2x512 3200 gold with MSI K8N Neo2 Platinum?
I know this mobo can put until 2,85 Vdram. For this reason i can use a DDR booster to keep my OCZ until 3,4volt and arrive to 260 Mhz?
Thanks bye
IIRC K8N Neo2 has issues with 2x 512MB modules and high clocking so you'd probably be limited around 220-245mhz regardless of ram if it's 2x 512MB modules