Epox 9nda3+ Test(ddr670 Pass!!!)

looks good......

any idea about the Vdimm mod?
Is it possible to damage anything giving the ram 3.5Vdimm?
and is it possible to use an SMD grabber?

Well I think this is it for me. I can't run 1T at bus speed so I'm using 166 mem setting. I'm pretty happy for a $145 chip and $90 board. Not as good as old days with $44 tbreds but that's alright.:)

http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~smanning/prelim.jpg

looks nice, thanks!

I just ordered my 9NDA3J from mwave and a 3200+ from zipzoomfly. CPU will be here monday / tuesday but the mobo wont arrive until wenesday. I still wont be able to play with the new toys until christmas. =[

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Originally Posted by esoteradactyl

here is a new unofficial beta bios md34b25 :)

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Can you instruct me how to install this? I'm going to try it on the budget "J" board.

I can't run 1T at highFSB you think this will help?

Thanks :) :)

awsome results it was what i was hoping for i think your 1T prob is due to your ram i know you probably said it already but what ram are you using?

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Originally Posted by confuzzedintel

awsome results it was what i was hoping for i think your 1T prob is due to your ram i know you probably said it already but what ram are you using?

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I am using 2x512 PQI with samsung TCCD. Got them real cheap from newegg ($222) awhile back. They should run 1T at 290 with 3-4-3 no? Anyway I have to run them at 2T 3-4-3@290 or alternativly 1t 2.5-3-3 using the 166 mem setting giving me 240Mhz...:(


always fail mem test #6 any higher
and I'm chicken to try hardmodding my motherboard for more volts like those above me...

i dont think its a volt issue alot of the 2x512 setups have a hard time with high speeds if you have a 256 TCCD stick of ram laying arround you might want to give that a try

i just get me a other 9NDA3+ and the one i get is ver2.1 and i also get me a 3200. on your frist pic (windwithme) it show the volt. from 0.05 to 0.20v then is the some on my ver1. but know on my ver 2.1 i get a lot move to choose from it (0.5-0.70 volt) have the some bios but it do not show the some volt i will take a pic later right now i an test it



[QUOTE=windwithme]to esoteradactyl:
thanks :)

Want BIOS diagram CPU voltage, preserves and adds 0.5V, it is that 1.45V take-offs to be basic http://hkp2p.shopping7.org/~hardware/TEST/9NDA3/B1.JPG

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hey I think budget J has higher vcore available? up +.35 take a look

Sounds like you have the old BIOS revision there, ruff97...

Zebo, are you running your sticks in dimm slots 1 and 3? And yeah, those are the hidden BIOS vcore options in the 9NDA3 BIOS, looks like it is the default on the j board... What revision is your board Zebo?

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Originally Posted by jlccarv

Any extra vdimm on the version 2.1?

Zebo, are you running your sticks in dimm slots 1 and 3?

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3 and 4 per you all's advice on other board

rev2

revision 2.1?

It says rev 2.x on the box. where should I be placing memory?

look at the lower left corner of the board, the revision number should be printed there...

Try your memory in dimm slots 1 and 2, as your revision board maybe different to our revision 1.0's...

I tried 1 and 2 and failed even at default speeds and less even 290FSB memsetting 133 = 192 and even failed 3-3-3:) 3 and 4 definity the way to go.


I can't see in lower left sorry. too much cables and pump waterlines and stuff.

OK, so even on revision 2.x, dimm slots 1 and 2 are still totally stuffed when using 2x512MB modules... great :rolleyes:

And the voltage monitoring of 3.3v and 12v is still absent!

so that means the vcore can be adjusted to 1.8V on the j?

That would depend on the chip I'd imagine...

130nm 1.5 + .35 = 1.85

90nm 1.4 + .35 = 1.75

i'm not crazy enough to try it:P

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Originally Posted by confuzzedintel

so that means the vcore can be adjusted to 1.8V on the j?

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Either that... or its available to all 2.x revision boards.

Its potenially available to all boards, as it is just a hidden menu in the 9NDA's BIOS. It just needs someone to mod a BIOS and test it...

wow thats a lot better voltage then i thought so now the only downside is the DDR voltage prob but if you have good tccd it wont be a prob it does 2.85 right? because that is what gskill and adata are rated for and those are the brands im looking to get.

Dude, the biggest downside is this boards inability to run 2x512MB sticks in dimm slots 1 and 2. TCCD seems to be affected quite badly, even when using dimm slots 3 and 4, according to Zebo's reports...

Get ballistix PC3200 so I know if i should sell this TCCD.

whats the highest HTT 3d stable?

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Originally Posted by buff

whats the highest HTT 3d stable?

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On my early board I've been to 325 NP
I'm usually @ FM, but I'm the guinea pig that tried the first vdimm and vcpu mods on this board, mongoose posted them here along with that edited picture with all the circles and red x's :lol:
Don't have a bunch of screenies, but did a 31 sec SuperPi @2.72 on an air cooled 3200+ Winny, hit Sandra mem @77xx (forget which ram...either 2x256 BH-5, or 2X512 3700EB, also managed a 32K 3DMK2K1 with an all stock X800XTPE. Score in sig
Pretty nice board, but went back to 8KDA3J and Clawhammer for 2K1 and everyday, ya gotta luv that 1m of L2 on the Claws;)
The 9NDA3/Winny is now a folding machine ATM :lol:

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Originally Posted by esoteradactyl

here is a new unofficial beta bios md34b25 :)

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esoteradactyl what does this bios do? You make it? Also is it safe risk to flash J board with it?

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Originally Posted by Zebo

esoteradactyl what does this bios do? You make it? Also is it safe risk to flash J board with it?

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my board went up in smoke so i never had much of a chance to test it. blew one of the fet's right off the board! :mad:

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Originally Posted by Zebo

hey I think budget J has higher vcore available? up +.35 take a look

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2.1???
GOOD :banana:

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Originally Posted by windwithme

2.1???
GOOD :banana:

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Yes good and good price.. In USA 9nda3J is $40 cheaper than 9nda3+:)

so it is doing good then? have you tried the Vdimm mod? im realy thinking of getting one of these.

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Originally Posted by confuzzedintel

so it is doing good then? have you tried the Vdimm mod? im realy thinking of getting one of these.

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Vdimm mod is easy and can be done with grabber to pin 6 and 25Kvr to ground. Actually it's the same vdimm mod as the 8KDA3 (s754) mobo also, I don't have any pics but if you can find Smokey's thread on the 8KDA3 or Mongoose's thread on the 9NDA3 you will find the pics :) Vcpu is the same also....pin 10 and 50Kvr to ground...just incase 2.1v isn't enough :lol:

no, I don't do physical mods. 2.8Vdimm is good enough for TCCD. Good board? Maybe it's good. I like all it's options, high HTT and price.

I don't like no memory runs in slots 1 and 2. I tried TCCD and Buffalo with CH-5. All fail mem test 5 and 6 at default speed.

Works OK in 3 and 4 but no 1T above about 235-240 with any timmings. Even 3-4-4 1T will fail test #6... Sucks huh.:(

Maybe I just got a bad board? maybe we need bios update? maybe I don't know WTF I'm doing? I dunno...

gluck whatever you choose.:) ....I lean MSI at this point but $50 xtra is quite a price premium for us budget overclockers:)


Edit: currenty I'm running A64 3000@295 x 9, 3 HTT, memsetting 133.... meaning 197 Mhz mem 2-2-2 1T with 2.5 volts. 12 hours prime stable.

OCZ 3700EB is gold in this board! :toast: 2x256 BH-5 is good for 270+ :toast: ....but they require vdimm mods. The only tccd I tried was OCZ 3200 Rev2. and it was good to around 215 @2-2-2-5, then failed at higher clocks, even with relaxed timings.....but some guys say other tccd is good.
I couldn't tell the diff between slot 1&2 or 3&4 with the mem I tried

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Originally Posted by stevehat1

OCZ 3700EB is gold in this board! :toast: 2x256 BH-5 is good for 270+ :toast: ....but they require vdimm mods. The only tccd I tried was OCZ 3200 Rev2. and it was good to around 215 @2-2-2-5, then failed at higher clocks, even with relaxed timings.....but some guys say other tccd is good.
I couldn't tell the diff between slot 1&2 or 3&4 with the mem I tried

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Which board? J or + I am refering to J which has no bios update or any support as yet from EPOX

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Originally Posted by Zebo

Which board? J or + I am refering to J which has no bios update or any support as yet from EPOX

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+ board

So you can't use the 9NDA3+ BIOS on the 9NDA3J and just not use some of the features?

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Originally Posted by stevehat1

OCZ 3700EB is gold in this board! :toast: 2x256 BH-5 is good for 270+ :toast: ....but they require vdimm mods. The only tccd I tried was OCZ 3200 Rev2. and it was good to around 215 @2-2-2-5, then failed at higher clocks, even with relaxed timings.....but some guys say other tccd is good.
I couldn't tell the diff between slot 1&2 or 3&4 with the mem I tried

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which bios? will be otherwise in big trouble or better say, loss like 100€ (*around 130$*). hm, r u sure there ist no way to get the tccd run better on the bord :stick: ?

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Originally Posted by mcnbns

So you can't use the 9NDA3+ BIOS on the 9NDA3J and just not use some of the features?

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EDIT: Update/. I flashed useing the plus bios inside DOS like tony told me (awdflash filename.bin /f) and still same mem problems. No 1T at high FSB with J...maybe I just got a bad board?... Anyway I flashed back to OEM J bios...

I just got my 9NDA3J in the mail. The chipset on the board is 0445A2. This is the newest week Ive seen. Hopefully it will clock good. Wont be able to test it until christmas eve, but my 3200+ should be here tomorrow so Im hoping for a new week on that as well.

Seems a good board. But it IS an epox so hence it has some drawbacks in the 1st revisions. 1&2 slots, low vdimm.. I betcha Rev 3.x or whatever will rock.

vdimm and vcore will be fixed easily. Only being able to use 2 ram slots doesnt bother me. I only have 2x256mb BH-5 atm anyway. When I order my 2x512mb TCCD Ill still only need 2 slots. Do slots 1&2 have an advantage over 3&4 ?

EP-3NDAJ Loves my new crucial ballistix. 2.5-2-2 240mhz @ 2.7Volts.

I finally got 1T working w/TCCD with + bios...but it seems a tad slower than ballistix.. see me thread here on all ram.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messagev...&enterthread=y

got this board when it was released, my two slots closest to cpu( i assume they are 1 and 2) did 1t fine to mem limit(i think limit anyway, didn't use it for long) 280ish 2.5,3,3,7 and was fast as feck. I was pretty sure i tried the booster in it and its still working, but i was in a trying all boards i have all combo's phase deciding what to take to uni so could have it mixed up. Now in my home rig, had ballastixs in, needed a gig, tried my tccd, and bh-5, xp120 so two furthest slots and i'm barely stable above 200Mhz 205 crashed on me last night. can't run 1t even at 200mhz with tccd or bh-5.

Wasn't the booster "supposed" to kill this board if used? I know the 9NDA uses the 5V rail for Vdimm.

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Originally Posted by stevehat1

OCZ 3700EB is gold in this board! :toast: 2x256 BH-5 is good for 270+ :toast: ....but they require vdimm mods. The only tccd I tried was OCZ 3200 Rev2. and it was good to around 215 @2-2-2-5, then failed at higher clocks, even with relaxed timings.....but some guys say other tccd is good.
I couldn't tell the diff between slot 1&2 or 3&4 with the mem I tried

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got the bord yesterday. so i must say that mine ocz platinium run up to 279mhz by 2,5 4 3 10 and 1t, not that good but it is a liddle bit strange that yours only go up to 215 :confused: .

Sorry kinda new to the athlon64 OC front...but when u guys are getting the high HTT speeds are these at 1t or 2t? I can get my epox up to 330 HTT at 1T and haven't tried 2t (doing this with a 3000+, 8*330 at 2.64 ghz)

Also what is considdered safe temps for these athlon64's? With my prescott I would get up close to 70 C and this was OK, and with the 64 I'm at 51 C under full load (prime95)

my GEIL UltraX runs great on this board
they make 278 with Cl2,5-4-3-5 1T@2,7V
But i got many erros@2,8V

So I test a little bit
http://www.forumdeluxx.de/gallery/da.../10173geil.JPG
It is normal that the Vdimm undervolted so high?

Does this mobo have any problems with sub zero temps?

Im still thinking of getting neo2/EP-9NDA3+. Many of you said that epox is better but i need to know how are the temps... thx

@ tbonekot: I can't speak for all of these boards, but on mine bios and usdm report VDimm about .1V lower then what I measure with a DMM.

@ Adasi: Regarding sub-zero, I haven't heard of issues with these and sub-zero, and I know I am running fine with an LS, but then I don't have a Winny, and I ran the same chip on an MSI fine too, only Mach 1 on that board though. It does not report sub temps correctly though, not 40 - 50C like the MSI, more like 20C but still a good ways off from what it really is.

And to add to the memory pile of info: 2x256 BH-5 to 270+ here too, only in slots 3-4 though. VX to 265, same slots, hoping to see higher after burn-in. OCZ 4200ELPT (TCCD) only good for 270, only tried slots 1-2, but took those out to play with low latency mem pretty quickly and will have to go back and try both pairs of slots sometime. Overall, I love this board compared to the MSI. LDT4x with 270 HTT has been bullet-proof too. The bios options are pretty limited, but it does clock very nicely.

9NDA3J 2.1 Test
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=50425

mikead 99 - thx for responding, hope my winnie will work....

Just received my mobo, it's rev2.1 and the bridge looks quite new too. :)

Do you guys have issues with 166 asynchro mode? Sometimes I cannot boot with memory set at 166/133 and sometimes it's very unstable.
I even flashed my bios to the newest from epox site but it doesn't help :(

My 166 synchro mode ends at htt280
133 ends at ~300
Over 300 i have to use 100 mode which pisses me of a little...

Ps. Sorry for double post.

Hello there... :DI have a little question about temperatures on Watercooled systems based on 9NDA3+, what temps do you have guys...
My is terrible, maybe bacause i have waterblock not designed for a bick eggs :P (Big Cor with heatspreader ;))
i have 68C Load after few hours of calculating UD, and idle about 45C.
Config is in the signature :P
Thermal paste is Arctic Silver 5 :P
WTF?

after i did the vdimm mod of tony, how do i see how much voltage is given to the rams? :confused:

you can meassure it in the memory slots themselves :)
there are tiny holes in the dimm slots, stick your multimeter needle into those holes carefully, some read ground, some read vtt and some read vdimm :)