The BBBG will boot on the M6E PSC 2400 1.65v profile (8-11-7 timings) but they need 1.9v and can't boot into Windows.
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The BBBG will boot on the M6E PSC 2400 1.65v profile (8-11-7 timings) but they need 1.9v and can't boot into Windows.
Can you post a pic of the stick's label? :)
There they are, mixed with all my other recently acquired 2GB sticks:Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
http://i.imgur.com/kE6QGbf.jpg
The model# is AX3U2000XB2G9-2X.
I will say, these BBBG sticks do not like a lot of voltage. Setting 1.85v or higher and they either won't POST or will fail to load Windows. Even using eventual voltage, Windows won't load.
My BDBG that I'm selling here like high voltage. That's why I thought they are PSC. But people told me they were BDBG ))Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
More stuff:
Geil GE32GB1600C7DC 2x2GB DDR3-1600 7-7-7-24 Elpida EDJ1108BBSE
http://i.imgur.com/LquqYQc.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OOfYyir.jpg
This is some pretty weak BBSE though, let me tell you...
Speaking of BBSE, I'm pretty sure my Dominator 1600C9 Ver2.2 are not BBSE. The ICs are smaller and there are no white stripes on them. Must be some kind of BxBG.
Thanks for the pictures! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Can you post the entire IC code for my list? Thanks! :)
How it overclock? I think too that is pretty weak BBSE )Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
And I've never seen good BBSE sticks produced any company except G.Skill
I had some acceptable BBSE by OCZ, but that?s pretty much all I can remember at this IC apart from Gskill. GEIL BBSE are a legend :) - for su...... real bad :D
http://abload.de/thumb/1-213008-11-7-24hardtphpyh.jpg
Nice to see that you have really strong BBSE and this isn't G.Skill )Quote:
Originally Posted by websmile
Following up on this...My kit is Corsair, and Ver2.2. All the info we have thus far says they should be BBSE, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
http://i.imgur.com/aRu1TNE.jpg
Look at the ICs...no white stripes!
http://i.imgur.com/E28Z0oZ.jpg
single side sticks always can work with higher voltage, that kingston's chip is elpida BDBGQuote:
Originally Posted by MaJ0r
I ordered two 8GB (M378B1G73QH0) modules for platform evaluation purposes and received them today.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
I think it is pretty safe to say that MFR will be superceded.
Tested on a AMD platform very briefly:
DDR-1866 - 8-9-8-24 / 1.575V
DDR-2133 - 9-10-9-24 / 1.575V
DDR-2400 - 10-12-10 / 1.575V
DDR-2400 - 11-12-12 / 1.425V
The tCL & tRCD behaves similar to Hynix CFR / MFR, however they scale very well with the voltage.
tRP is pretty much immune, with low voltages it is tRCD - 2 MEMCLKs however with higher voltages -3 MEMCLKs should be possible.
With some proper sorting and PCB the Q-die might become the fastest DDR3 IC yet.
Should I try them on Haswell? :)
Yes, please.
4Gbit B-die also runs tighter than MFR (on average) but it can't do much above 1250MHz. If Q-die doesn't have this problem, then it might indeed be the new top 4Gbit IC.
Haswell appears to be the most :banana::banana::banana::banana:ed up platform I have ever seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
Can't make the modules even post at 2133MHz, no matter what settings I try.
I've tried "Auto" settings, manual settings (including the voltages), different straps etc.
At 100MHz BCLK and strap none of my modules even post at 1866MHz.
With 125MHz strap I got a Hynix CFR to post at DDR-2500, but thats all.
All of the MFR and Samsung modules (B / Q) will just get the board to a reset-shutdown-reset loop.
The motherboard is :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty too (Z87M-PLUS) but ASUS has validated it at DDR-2800 according to the documents.
My experience on Haswell is around 10 minutes long, but it just can't be that hard can it?
It can :D - this is most :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana:y and unreliable platform I ever worked with, I guess it will take more than 10 minutes even for you to tame the beast :D
Try setting secondaries at least per hand to settings you think are safe, 2t, change slots, there are lots of options left - good luck :)
If you want to overclock any RAM in 10 minutes you should try Z87 OC Formula. When I first time tried to overclock memory on Z86 I just selected desired memory profile and it was enough for good result.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
How does one order said two modules, mate?Quote:
I ordered two 8GB (M378B1G73QH0) modules for platform evaluation purposes and received them today.
I'd like to get some of those. Many thanks.
sounds like a compatibility issue, may want to take a peek at what is broken in their bios.
or
get you an asrock
Ordered mine from Flexxmemory.Quote:
Originally Posted by chinook
They arrived in two days, which is pretty damn quick.
M378B5173QH0-CK0 (4GB Single Rank)
M378B1G73QH0-CK0 (8GB Dual Rank)
Tried older bios versions on the Z87M-PLUS, they made no difference.
I also tried adding a XMP profile taken from a compatible 2666MHz CL12 MFR dual rank kit.
It appears the bios is not even able to interprete the XMP profiles properly. It doesn't set the secondary timings at all eventhou they are specified in the XMP profile. Tried to set the main and secondary timings manually based on a MFR timing set, it made no difference either.
On a 5800K Trinity APU I was able to make them run at 1308MHz 12-13-13 with 1.52V.
Didn't try any tighter timings or higher voltages as the IMC isn't very stable even at that frequency.
I'm not going to waste any more time on Haswell or AMD.
Afterall I am gone anyway pretty soon.
say it isn't so! without you, who will point out the jackassery of oems? not many have the skillset that you possess to point these issues out.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Set TRDWR + TRDWR_dr+dd set from tertiary manually to relaxed values like 15-16 whatever,then u will be able to boot,then u tighthen them up.It's a :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty issue and it was reported llong time ago by me....Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Wait what?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
Made no difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alex-Ro
I've already tried to loosen up all of the timings, it changes nothing.
The way it shuts down, it is almost like the board is hitting some sort of hardware protection (OVP/OCP).
The CPU should be fine as it is a brand new part, never molested.
Surely no IMC can be this bad, can it?
That's pretty much how all the Asus Z87 boards behave when they don't like something about the memory config. They don't auto recover either, you have to do a hard power down. Asrock and Gigabyte are a lot better in that regard.
you have already verified that the imc is capable of more on cfr (if i am reading correctly)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Stilt
sounds like the board is having issues training the memory and something that is not exposed to end users is getting set way too tight. if you have some samsungs, i'd pop them in just to see what its doing with different ICs. Really sounds like the motherboard is not cooperating as i have never seen a haswell cpu that bad ever. im not going to suggest "try this or that" because it seems you have already tried everything and i know how annoying it can get to be told to try something you already did. if you do switch boards, try the asrock oc mini, nick has been pretty good about getting the products with his name on them compatible across a bunch of different types and brands of memory, and its relatively cheap... and the boards are efficient as hell to boot.
Looks like that board doesn't have latency boundary settings, which makes it easier to set all of the tertiary timings to loose values. I would suggest setting DRAM CLK Period to 14.
Made no difference either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
It is some sort of a compability issue.
After some tinkering I was able to run a CFR kit at DDR-2800 so the hardware itself is good.
Decided to try something different and plugged in one Samsung Q module and one CFR module.
The system posted right away at 2666MHz. However after making some changes to the settings and saving them I could not get it running again.
With a CFR module plugged in the board does not shut down as fast as it does with the single Samsung module.
Go and figure.
I wonder if these Ver2.2 Dominator 1600C9 are the same BBBG ICs as my ADATA 2000X. Below are the max clocks/volts I've been able to reach on both.
ADATA:
http://i.imgur.com/XxFZccu.jpg
Corsair:
http://i.imgur.com/EhnCKs7.jpg
According to Sam, Ver2.2=BBxx. Same clocks, similar timings, similar VDIMM. Hmm....
Given what you've just posted makes me wonder if that's what was also being used on those Avexir 2000 C9 kits that were available from Mwave last April.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...=1#post5182497
I think those were BDBG.
Is there an easy place to get the physical IC measurements of the various Elpida offerings?
The best I've found is on this old Japanese PC blog:
http://blog.ark-pc.jp/?eid=104312#sequel
Thanks for the link.
Does anyone know what ICs are used in these? http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...odid=MY-042-TG
Could be lots of things. Hynix MFR, Samsung 4Gbit B-die, even some kind of Micron IC.
Is it possible to tell from the TRFC?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
I don't think so. Lowest both MFR and Samsung B-die can go would be around 260-280, so you won't get a clear IC indication from tRFC alone.
So I finished binning all of my BBSE sticks, using Sam's method.
http://i.imgur.com/r24l9KO.jpg?1
Geil Evo 1600C7 Stick #1 > No boot, Bunny Extraction
Geil Evo 1600C7 Stick #2 > Not stable any voltage, Bunny Extraction
Corsair Dominator GT 1600C7 stick #1 > no boot, Bunny Extraction
Corsair Dominator GT 1600C7 stick #2 > 1.64v 32M stable PASS
Corsair Dominator GT 1600C7 stick #3 > 1.685v 32M stable PASS
G.Skill Ripjaws 2000C9 stick #1 > no boot, Bunny Extraction
G.Skill Ripjaws 2000C9 stick #2 > no boot, Bunny Extraction
G.Skill Trident 2000C9 stick #1 > 1.705v 32M stable PASS
G.Skill Trident 2000C9 stick #2 > 1.75v 32M stable PASS
G.Skill Perfect Storm 2133C9 stick #1 > Code 55, Bunny Extraction
G.Skill Perfect Storm 2133C9 stick #2 > Code 55, Bunny Extraction
G.Skill Perfect Storm 2133C9 stick #3 > Code 55, Bunny Extraction
Pretty atrocious. The biggest surprise/disappointment was the Perfect Storm sticks. None of the three would POST at 2200 7-9-7 regardless of voltage used, I would get a hard Code 55. The other failures would at least attempt to boot and a few could at least get into Windows.
To be honest, this is not unexpected. BBSE vary in quality a lot, only ICs on 2133C8 and 2200C9 RipjawsX are consistently interesting, elsewhere you have to be lucky.
OCZ Flex II DDR3-1600 C8 2x2GB OCZ3FXT1600LV4GK PSC XE
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps5970262c.jpg
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps1ee0883b.jpg
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0e8e2969.jpg
Nice find! Have you tested them yet?
They're decent, not great but not bad. They can pass the PSC tight 2400 preset for Z77 OC Formula with 1.775v BIOS set.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps2a5e6c97.jpg
Haven't tried for 2600 yet.
hi
does this Corsair dominator kits worth any Money (can buy 2)
TR3X6G1600C8D / 8-8-8-24 1.65V R2.1
thanks for any help
for use with RIVE and or CHVF
This would be a risky purchase if you buy without any results, most of the non GT Dominators rev2.1 used bad clocking ICs by Elpida like BASE which failed 1000 at any Timings configuration. It is very doubtful these will give you good clocks you search for, but not impossible. Personally, I wouldn?t buy unless these are really cheap, which Corsair usually are not ^^
yes they are cheap and i could get around 12 sticks (4 3 chanell kits) but to binn all of them it will get expensive ; -)
thanks for your help
anyone else have AE-F BBSE :P cant find any info out about it
http://i.imgur.com/hmGMBk2.png
http://i49.tinypic.com/ic5v1i.gif
I guess it's the same IC with a different JEDEC bin to DJ-F.
Apart from being old very old IC for BBSE, this is 1066 7-7-7 bin instead of usual 1333 9-9-9 - give it some fire and let it fly :D
have you guys ever seen it?
On OEM-Elpidas, yes, on manufacturer sticks, no
Where did you find it? Is it one of John Lam's sticks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Same chips where on my Mushkins, Blackline 998696es.Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
Timings up to ~2000 like hypers, above a little more loose and more overhead.
I'm curious to see what you guys think of these sticks and what ICs can do this :D
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps31a798a8.jpg
I purposely didn't show the model # as that might give it away (I know what they are myself) ;)
Some lucky D9Qxx? That's some low #CAS goodness for 4GB sticks!
It's actually this kit: http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum...-review-4.html
Elpida 2Gbit BASE :)
Thanks!
Nice, it's pretty rare to see such old 2GB Elpidas, never mind doing so well. How far can it go for 24/7? About 2133 C9 with lowish TRCD at 1.72V?
Nice find, Shiranui Gen-An! Same chips as on this Winchip kit, I guess, right?
Yep, same ICs. I actually have two other kits with those chips on them (Patriot Sector 5 DDR3-2000, Geil Evo One DDR3-1600) but they're 2x2GB and single-sided, thus not very interesting and likely to go back to the eBay from whence they came.
2gbit Elpida were used on many kits, also lots of 2gb sticks single sided, Geil for example used such ICs on evo two. Had a coup?le of kits that did 2133 9-9-9 and 2400 10-10-10, but for the latter, needed already 1,73v. 1300 is almost everytime no go at acceptable voltage
Some old Screens of these, at least the kits I had had white stripes likes bbse for example
http://abload.de/thumb/geilevo22000c8-9-78gbizuw9.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/kit21206c10173vdlc9w.jpg http://abload.de/thumb/geilevo22000c98gbf9uxx.jpg
I'm sure on cold these can do 8-10-7 at 2400 as they would at least try to boot Windows but the voltage was around 1.95.
websmile, thanks for your input. I didn't knew there was 2GB sized Elpida as old as BASE, as most 1GB BASE ICs were from 08' or early 09' and later revs (such as BCxx to BFxx) seem a bit more common for 2GB.
speaking of Samsung 4Gbit Q-rev that has recently appeared, I made some 32M tests on an OEM kit that I recently bought:
CL8: 1000MHz / 1.68V
CL9: 1100MHz / 1.64V, 1200MHz / 1.91V
CL10: 1200MHz / 1.60V
CL11: 1200MHz / 1.44V
similar to 4Gbit B-rev, these won't do much above 1200 no matter what
Thanks for the test, looks like they aren't the successor to MFR some have been hoping for.
Found some hybrid sticks today :P kinda cool, they love voltage...1.98 on air runs happy.
http://i.imgur.com/3OdkzXW.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/XJOi7Xz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/PNAQ0Cm.jpg?1
Received a kit of Ripjaw1333 C7 today, bought this untested in a bundle, HS are missing but they work - PSC XEC on one stick, and XEE on the other one
http://abload.de/thumb/ripjaw13331000c6-9-6-k9uhd.jpg
I bought these for 24/7 use as I wanted to sell my remaining Ecos because I thought it is a waste to use xpsc for surfing :rofl:
6 or 8 layer? All mine are XDT and XEC 6 layer :(
6-Layer as well on these, seems G.Skill had to save at least on this :D
Interesting. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
You lucky ... :p: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by websmile
Binning bbse today found some bbbg that actually passed 2400 8-11-7-22 bin was kinda funny.
That being said I will never buy any more bbse that is not ripjaws 2133 or 2200. 25 garbage sticks, 3 decent.
What it feels like binning BBSE. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by Splave
http://i.imgur.com/bAa5GeZ.gif
I still haven't figured out BBSE, even though it's clear my recently acquired Ripjaws 2133C8 are the best I have.
Some story here. Trying to stabilize 2666 8-11-7-22-88 1.9095v excitingQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Corsair ver8.1x is Nanya 2Gbit, never seen any of these do more than DDR3-2133.
I've always found it odd for Corsair to have used Nanya chips in their Dominator 1866 and 2000 kits. Why use "run-of-the-mill" ICs in what is supposed to be your top line? Cost savings can't possibly justify loss of face/reputation could it?
I can understand them being used in some of the other (lower) product lines, but on their high-end it never has made sense to me.
Unfortunately they're always going to say if the IC will do the "high end" specs they will be sold at, they are fine to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reefa_Madness
While I understand that is their position, I've always thought that it was counter productive. The upper end of their high-end stuff is good, but I've always felt that they taint the name/reputation of their high-end products by using these types of IC at the lower end of those product lines. Then again, they probably figure that those that buy the lower binned products of their high end line know very little about what ICs are better and just buy the "name".Quote:
Originally Posted by filmbot
Personally, when asked, I strongly suggest to people to stay away from the 1866 / 2133 Doms (except for the 2133s ver4.13 kit with 9-11-10-27 timings). Generally very little headroom on those kits.
So, I have these lowly (boring?) kingston KVR1333D3N9/4G, double sided 4GB 1333 9-9-9-24, made in mid 2011 in my P67/2500k rig. I've been able to get them up to 1866 10-10-10-27 1.5v for 24/7 use. Through some bclk oc I've seen these get to 2000 at similar timings and 1.65v (too bad I don't have z77 and an ivy cpu to use that divider) but for the life of me I can't get these to even boot at 2133. Tried relaxing timings, tried more voltage up to 1.7v and not a sign of life at those speeds.
http://thumbnails104.imagebam.com/31...9314801859.jpg http://thumbnails111.imagebam.com/31...a314801880.jpg
Any idea what these ICs are? Maybe if they can be identified I could get a hint on what to do. I've been researching them yet there isn't much out there. Am I expecting too much out of them, or out of my 2500k? Thanks.
It looks like you have Elpida 2Gbit BCBG, so your results are normal. I wouldn't expect these to even do 2000.
Any info out there about Micron D9RLT, e. g. regarding capacity? (Upper line says 3RAI8 and on the side I can read QLF3.) I've seen it as SSD cache, but not on RAM sticks yet.
I made a slight update to the first post featuring more obscure ICs.
Thanks for updating the thread, Sam! :up:
Not that it matters much, but I don't agree about the overclocking part completely. :DQuote:
1Gbit revision D (K4B1G0846D)
OEM code: M378B5673DZ1 for 2GB modules
To be found on:
Some 1.8V+ rated kits with specs of 1800 9-9-9, 1866 9-9-9 or 2000 9-9-9 and 1.65V rated 2000 9-9-9 kits from late 2008 - early 2009.
Kingston also used these on 1800 8-8-8 HyperX sets manufactured in late 2008 - early 2009.
Corsair ver4.1
Benching relevance:
None.
How does it overclock:
Does not like voltage above 1.8V. At 1.8V decent kits can do 1000MHz 8-9-8 and 1100MHz 9-9-9.
In my opinion HCF0 scale up to 2+V and they can do 900MHz 7-7-7 and 1000MHz 8-8-8, 1100MHz 9-9-9 already required 2.1V in my testing, but anything over 1000MHz isn't that reliable on X48 anyway. On modern systems the required Vdimm is probably lower. By the way, which system do you use as reference for the given binning parameters?
I know you had some interesting results with HCF0 on OCZ FlexII, like 1000MHz 9-9-9-24 @ 1.52V and 1000 MHz 8-8-8-24 @ 1.76V on X48, but that's so much better than anything I've seen on my two kits ( Corsair 2000C9D ). Anything I missed or just a superb kit?
I was filling information on old ICs mostly from personal experience and back in X48/X58 days I wasn't much of a RAM expert. I had many kits with 1Gbit-D but not a single one, even the FlexII above would do 900MHz CL7 at any voltage, though I had multiple kits up to and above 1000MHz CL8/CL9 on X58 under 1.8V, hence why I thought these do not scale too well.
If you say so, I'm going to up it to ~2V for now. May be I will try to buy a kit in the future to get a better impression on the ICs :D
Recently bought a bunch of Samsung 4Gbit revision D OEM modules just to see what the ICs are like. The best pair can do this:
http://abload.de/img/snaphsot0001h4yug.png http://abload.de/img/snaphsot0003lbxuw.png http://abload.de/img/snaphsot00047rxwg.png
Well, my experience with HCF0 has been mixed. I had only two 2000C9DNV kits, I haven't tested the 2133C9D kit, I bought recently, yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
Of the first kit, one stick was dead, the other could do 1100 MHz 9-9-9 @ 2.10V, 1040 MHz 8-8-8 @ 2.00V, 914 MHz 7-7-7 @ 2.00V. Then I got a second kit that could do 1000 MHz 9-9-9 @ 1.96V, 950 MHz 8-8-8 @ 2.10V, 890 MHz 7-7-7 @ 2.10V. ( 32M stable on X48 )
As you can see, my board doesn't like dual channel of HCF0 at all, the second kit could do 1066 MHz 9-9-9 @ 1.69V on Z68 ( by websmile ). I guess the higher voltage requirements are either due to me using S775 or rather my board in particular. I'd like to try my HCF0 on Z87 as well, I think it hasn't been done yet by anyone. It would be nice if I could compare to your results! ;)
Looks like Samsung 4Gb ICs are getting worse. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by TaPaKaH
I have three PSC X that can do 1200 7-11-7-28-1T @ 1.83V (A3G-A), the two others (one X A3G-M, one T A3G-U) are unable to do that (they stop at around ~ 1140). I just want to run 4 sticks.
Since this is not the material you are looking for I am asking whether anyone is willing to sell me a stick to match my other three?
I sell an OCZ PSC kit at classifieds, XEX A3G-A, but I do not have a single stick -maybe someone else can help you
It's not new that PSC ICs were licensed by Elpida but I haven't seen any IC that would carry both markings ... until today
http://item.ebay.de/291116558373
http://abload.de/img/_57l9utu.jpg
Thanks for sharing that pic.
hi
i have some gskill psc x kits, wonder if there are great diferences between xd/xe and xf ics
2x2gb 12800cl8d-4gbrm - xd ics /9451040
2x2gb 16000cl6d-4gbpis - xe ics /10401040
3x2gb 12800cl7d-6gbpi - xf ics /11021040
can they be mixed in x79 ? ;-)
thanks for your help
In light of recent HOT contest, here is some info on Kingston IC detection.
Method 1:
Look at this bit of the sticker on the packaging, there should be a combination of numbers or letters.
http://abload.de/img/3027_03tbk0s.jpg
02 indicates Elpida, 08 indicates Micron, 16 indicates Samsung, 32 indicates Hynix, KTC indicates "Kingston Technology Centre" so you can expect anything.
No further IC detection is possible using the sticker.
Method 2:
11-symbol vertical code on the module stickers.
http://abload.de/img/1cqkb6.jpg
Fourth symbol (letter) indicates ICs: "E" for Elpida, "H" for Hynix, "M" for Micron, "N" for Nanya, "Q" for Qimonda, "S" for Samsung.
Firth and sixth symbol (numbers) indicate number of ICs: "08" is for single-sided, 16 is for dual-sided modules.
Seventh symbol (number or letter) is month of production: "1" for January, .., "A" for October, "B" for November, "C" for December.
Eighth and nineth symbols (numbers) indicate year of production.
...other ones I haven't yet figured out.
Of course, knowing that modules are, say, Elpida is nice but it's not very precise since Elpida made many different DDR3 ICs. It is possible to go one step further in the detection.
Take a look at this (or a similar code). I don't know the internal name for it, so let's call it batch number for now.
http://abload.de/img/2wdkla.jpg
If you order the kits according to these batch numbers, you will roughly get the order, in which they were produced/sold/shipped.
Because Kingston mostly used whatever ICs they had available at the time, knowing this batch number (or, alternatively, production date) and comparing it to close batch numbers with known ICs, can give you a hint about your own set.
Of course, for this you need a IC+batch database. HERE is an Excel file of my personal IC observations, which you can use for data mining.
For example, if you're looking for BDBG/BDSE you'll see that it's very common on Elpida-based kits with batch numbers in 4500000-5000000 range, whereas on batches prior to 4500000 you're likely to get BABG and on batches beyond 5000000 you're likely to get BFBG/BFSE.
@Sam,
Thanks for that post...lots of good info in there.
Samsung 4Gbit Q-die on Patriot Viper 3 2x8GB DDR3-2400C10.
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...psd274a079.jpg
http://i947.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps0ed02237.jpg
How do they clock?
Not very well lol I got them to boot once at 1300 11-13-13 but haven't been able to replicate it. Basically they aren't any different from the 4Gbit B-die stuff we've seen before.
Thanks for the info, just what I expected. :rofl:
Evil Don_Dan :eek: - Samsung Q are nothing to be happy about :p: :D