not only msi but gigabyte t00, 8+2 phase might be not enough, 500w limit? i dunno. im anticipating dead 990fx boards though lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
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not only msi but gigabyte t00, 8+2 phase might be not enough, 500w limit? i dunno. im anticipating dead 990fx boards though lolQuote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
2500k, at the end of the videoQuote:
Originally Posted by JumpingJack
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4955/t...-fx8150-tested
That's a bit deceptive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spectrobozo
Did they announce the server versions yet? I can't find opteron pricing anywhere. I would still probably be interested in a 4p system with the 8 core versions if they are cheap enough.
.....guru3d has a good review, its about the software, it seems this cpu does not work well with older benchmarks. i think its a good product, idk why everyone is so upset, i was expecting worse. in all the areas that it excels, is exactly what i use it for (like hand brake and media expresso, truecrypt..etc ). seeing as how i need a new cpu anyways (i dropped my other one, so pissed right now) might as well jump on board.
As the CPU trailer said: Unbelievable. But not the good way. And I really wanted to go AMD this time around but there's no way in hell I'm doing that as of now. Maybe a new stepping could improve power consumption and prices went down to 1100T-levels I could justify it but otherwise hell no.
I hope AMD gives an explanation for the lack of performance, was this really what they were expecting? If so, what on earth were they thinking? If it doesn't deliver in servers I can't see why they didn't cancel the project, and I can't really understand why they didn't "just" use the stars cores, put two more on the die and some cache and launched as a desktop processor instead of this pile of :banana::banana::banana::banana:...
Did you expect it to be slower than bobcat?Quote:
Originally Posted by god_43
well no, but based on the previous leaks; i thought performance was going to be worse than it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
ARM and its partners are Intel's real competition now. AMD is just an also-ran living on Intel's scraps.
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by highoctane
I tested hashing in two completely different benchmarks and got a world of different results. Bulldozer needs a lot of software to catch up with it until people can start saying how crappy it is.
This is worse. Phenom I was actually still an upgrade over K8. Albeit very marginal, but an upgrade nonetheless. BD core vs core is a downgrade to Phenom II. Which is really sad. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Vodka
In the end there are some bright spots, yes. But honestly at the end of the day, if the marketing department at AMD does their job, this will STILL sell well. Why? Because the average home user will get "more cores" and "more Ghz." P4 sucked but it still sold well. For sales and marketing, It's all a numbers game...
Ahh, disappointing. Here's hoping that this ends up like Fermi and AMD can quickly make large improvements in power consumption and performance with Piledriver.
Really would have liked to see some improvements in AMDs usual weak areas like single threaded performance though.
:(
The FX name used in this sense is a half truth, FX is for overclock ability, cherry picked from the rest, they do overclock well but they are all called FX and not cherry picked so that part is false.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
FX is not about better architecture, its about better OC from the rest of the range.
Meh, no need for that, this is not the first, nor the last time this happens. The problem is that in this case I am actually sorry because we are right. I have been using Athlon64 back in the day and I used to look up to the FX models so much. Those were like a dream for all pc users back in the day (except for die hard intel fanboys, of course :) ). Now, to see the FX name used like this....it's like something is breaking inside of me :(Quote:
Originally Posted by M.Beier
Does anyone know if they launched the interlagos versions as well? Google is flooded with AMD press releases about cray computers.
:) The QuadFX wasn't terribly exciting either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monstru
I wouldn't be surprised if this was a carefully timed release to get a least one positive headline next to the name...Quote:
Originally Posted by lizardmech
According to the Bit-Tech review it is about on par with my 2 year old Core i7 920 in many benchies (even behind at times) :eek:
Wonder if they'll make more Thuban based processors then?
-PB
this isnt as bad as i thought it would be.
ive been reading that AMD is going to aggressively fix bulldozers shortcomings next year but in there lies the problem. AMD can not stick to a schedule and that is what is really killing them. how many months was bulldozer late? and they expect to release piledriver sometime earlyish 2012? i wouldnt be shocked if we didnt see piledriver til this time next year. well, at least i can still looking foward to AMD's 7900 series GPUS :D
I cannot understand how come they doubled transistors to get less performance?
Any linpack benchmark that I missed in all the reviews?
WTF!
... I think I am still waiting for the punchline....
"aha! joke's on you guys!! we just needed to update bios drives!" or something like that...
I sold my ud7 2600k for this utter level of crappola??? somebody please kick me in the nuts!
And no FX processors available here in France ...
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/f59d748...500585c07d.jpg
Double the transistors, 2 more cores, a metric ton of cache, and a more advanced process... and AMD is perhaps just slightly ahead of their previous flagship. I guess they are completely incompetent after all.
http://i.imgur.com/9uTCf.jpg
:shakes:
They could've just die-shrunk an x4 and slap two together, MCM style. Hell, I'd buy it.
Maybe that's how Dirk felt when he could see what was comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Despite Monstru not being all that bothered about all the negative comments, I do still think a few people owe apologies.
I wonder if XS admin would be interested in a sayaa multi-quote with all the worst offenders.
I was hoping for so much more from AMD.... so so much much more.
I would like to see some 3DMark at high MHz though.... but also with a power meter plugged in
ask for a video too(explosive), and ocp disabled gigabyte boards :DQuote:
Originally Posted by K404
Maybe that's how Dirk felt when he could see what was comingQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Hey bro :D You remember that video from a million years ago where some guy in his garage OC'd a Netburst, then removed the cooler under power?
The CPU hit the roof, the mobo had a hole blown in it (CPU socket? What CPU socket??)
Maybe it's time that film got a 2011 reboot, featuring AMD
I pretty disappointed by performance, but I see A LOT of room for improvement
This is the first large die 32nm cpu? (Process could improve)
This is a whole new architecture (It should be easier to improve that now that they actual samples?)
Thuban could not really be expanded more without breaking thermal limits so a new architecture was needed
There is a big difference between software that can utilize this arcitecture, if software is optimized for it it should perform well, however having a marketshare like AMD gives little reason for software developers to create special software for them.
I hope this is true, but I dont know enough about the stuff to be certain
This one?Quote:
Originally Posted by K404
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...04704265757054
hahahahhah, i remember that..at first i was in total "Belief" but this time its totally possible hahahahhaQuote:
Originally Posted by K404
tu veux le miens :p
That does look like it, I was sure it was a Netburst though. Ah well... thanks for posting it up!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mech0z
That was a fake:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG86hIkxWUQ
...did this one got lost along the way?
http://www.hitechlegion.com/reviews/...13752?start=23Quote:
Pros:
Incredible Multi Threaded Performance
Excellent Price/Performance Ratio
Smooth Working Turbo Core For Speed Boost
Dual Turbo Modes For Increased Boost In Lightly Threaded Apps
Maintains Excellent Temps At Stock Speeds
Black Edition With Unlocked Multiplier
Eight Physical Cores
Easily Achieves High Overclocks
Excellent OC Performance Scaling
Easily Tweaked With AOD For Maximum Performance
Cons:
Performance In Single Threaded Apps Not On Par With Multithreaded
**Double Post Bug** :mad:
I guess "FX" stands for "Xtremely Fuc***". LOL.
No one would seriously run this chip for 24/7 (Folding@Home, WCG, etc...) at it's current power consumption. I figured the FX would be 10% slower than a comparable Intel system, I was wrong. The IPC difference is closer to 20%.
I'll keep my current 955@4Ghz over a BD setup anyday.
AMD, you had better not cancel production of the Phenom II line because if you do, then you will definitely not have anything to compete with Intel. It's no wonder Chew said he was only sticking around until BD is here then vanishing like a ghost. :)
http://www.abload.de/img/aagfy5.png
:clap: :rofl:
Has this anything to do with Bulldozer?Quote:
Originally Posted by cold2010
So those leaked benchmarks were all true, Bulldozer is a disappointment and a major dud. I can't believe how poorly it performs in gaming, and the i7 2600K is pretty much ahead in most benchmarks if not all. Doesn't look like I will be upgrading my 955 rig after all.
yeah, you are. you missed it being delayed 10+ times over 4 years. you missed the GF foundry being the worst at every measure. you missed the CEO getting fired. you missed every leaked benchmark that showed bulldozer sucking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
yes, people missed a lot. maybe this is what you should read next: "in the face of clear evidence to suggest to the contrary, why do some people remain so optimistic about the future?" http://medicalxpress.com/news/2011-1...c-reality.html
I guess the jury's still out on the architecture, but this manifestation of it makes me sad...
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/pho...41-500-491.jpg
http://kpopchan.com/gmu/src/13131135875.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Dimitriman
:censored:
Sad, and ANGRY! I don't think it's out of the question that intel will raise prices, unless AMD sells these things for less than their X6 lineup.
Agreed. I was really hoping to add another AMD system to my crunching mix of 2X AMD 4X intel. But from the looks of things, MM's gonna hafta pulla rabbit out of a hat in order to put some polish on this turd. Here's to hoping there's a software fix for this disaster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
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So by 2013 when Intel will launch Haswell, AMD will be back at Phenom II level IPC.:rolleyes:
I iwll try to make a sound recording at 6.5Ghz 3D06 like I did a few runs (I gave up as I was nowhere close to a SB at 5.6, about 4K difference in score)... it's scary during the CPU test... seems something is gonna pop sometime soon... even at 6.3ghz wprime and co was freaky :pQuote:
Originally Posted by K404
I can only recommend the high end 990FX boards for Ocing this CPU... even for daily clocks it needs loads of powaaaaaa
And overclocking this thing is utterly useless witch such a horrendous power consumption.
So if a PWM and pot can handle at least 7GHz (lol) AMD should be in the zone or at least be very close to it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Cant think of anything positive, to say about these chips at all.
I've got news for you: rumor and speculation don't rise to the level of "clear evidence". Maybe this is what YOU should read next...Quote:
Originally Posted by bamtan2
So now its offical... AMD produced a netburst like ľarch and thats a failure on the consumer base...
Hell its P4 vs P3 all over again, if you look back then P3 also was better in many apps/games and offered better IPC and consumed less (despite beeing on a higher node)... Wow you really think someone won't reapeat the same mistakes your competitor makes...
The real bummer is game preformance and power consumption... its not faster then a X6 and consumes more...
Goddamnit :( I really hoped BD would be at least close to Intel's offerings in the fields I care about (gaming / power draw).
I wanted my next rig to be all-AMD. Well, I think I still have some time to kill before I need to upgrade.
It's quite disappointing. I certainly expected more and was looking forward to greater competition. Oh well, best of luck to AMD
Funny to see everybody that surprised - what have you expected after an epic marketing stunt with 8.4+ GHZ but no other results?
10 days back was the first time I saw a bulldozer. We ran some 3DM11 and remarked the low CPU-scores instantly...running near 6.5 we all were like WTF?!
Then we did some AM3 - something around 270k LOL! It's probably the worst new CPU-generation I've ever seen :(
As a PC gamer I am very disappointed. AMD spent the last half decade working on a CPU that is a good deal slower than their previous generation. Bad call AMD! Now the ousting of Dirk Meyer and all the execs jumping ship make sense. It's sad that we all felt this coming and here it is. I have to got to work today and tell my coworkers that I have to build a gawdamn Intel rig just get play my current lineup of games! The Witcher 2 does not show mercy to chump CPUs man. Neither does ArmA II Operation Arrowhead or Total War: Shogun 2 (which Bulldozer crashes on for some reason).
AMD needs to make a separate product line for the desktop like shrinking the 1100T, adding two more cores, and tweaking power efficiency. Hopefully the GPU side of AMD can keep things going there. The 7000 series is their only real hope.
Yep - AMD, you screwed the pooch on this. So much for going back to the AMD camp when i upgrade. I don't want more cores, i want more IPC.
it cannot. they cannot produce enough llano, their new server chips suck, and their new enthusiast chips suck. they are not a rich company, and their sales will continue to falter all next year. this has happened before to tech companies. there is a limit to how many times a company can screw up their sales for a given amount of debt / cash on hand. they cannot run on fumes much longer. I will not be surprised if AMD does not exist in 2013.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechromancer
THe problem is we didn't saw anything till now (well the leaked stuff, which where decleard fake by certain people :p: )Quote:
Originally Posted by SoF
For myself I am not really that surprised, but the clock for clock comparrisons are horrible up to 40% less performance then previouse generation? Holy moly, did AMD hope that they can gain 40% more clock compared to the X6?
Btw. where is movieman? I am quite intrigued what he has to say...
Bulldozer is the confession of AMD being out of the competition.
First of all, some people here who offended Monstru and lab501 should give apologies.
Even OBR need aplogies, he told the truth.
JF AMD should be banned for all his lies
Second the Bulldozer is a an EPIC FAIL, crap whatsoever
http://i47.tinypic.com/2vnhzra.gif
Why, let' see....
http://shareimage.ro/images/bxp1upvrbuv9fhiw1iv.jpg
Very less IPC than Thuban even with 8 cores.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/images/cpu/amd-fx-8150/t4.pngQuote:
For a single instruction thread, Bulldozer offers more front end bandwidth than its predecessor. The front end is wider and just as capable so this makes sense. But note what happens when we scale up core count.
Since fetch and decode hardware is shared per module, and AMD counts each module as two cores, given an equivalent number of cores the old Phenom II actually offers a higher peak instruction fetch/decode rate than the FX. The theory is obviously that the situations where you're fetch/decode bound are infrequent enough to justify the sharing of hardware. AMD is correct for the most part. Many instructions can take multiple cycles to decode, and by switching between threads each cycle the pipelined front end hardware can be more efficiently utilized. It's only in unusually bursty situations where the front end can become a limit.
Compared to Intel's Core architecture however, AMD is at a disadvantage here. In the high-end offerings where Intel enables Hyper Threading, AMD has zero advantage as Intel can weave in instructions from two threads every clock. It's compared to the non-HT enabled Core CPUs that the advantage isn't so clear. Intel maintains a higher instantaneous decode bandwidth per clock, however overall decoder utilization could go down as a result of only being able to fill each fetch queue from a single thread.
So that's the 180% performance scale using CMT compared to Intel HT.
In fact 2cores(1 module) has less performance than Intel 1core+ HT. Performance may be 80%
Last drop which filled the cup...Quote:
The numbers in this table speak louder than words. The performance of Bulldozer microarchitecture has become way lower than that of the previous-generation processors. The simplification of Bulldozer microarchitecture by combining a pair of cores into a single module with shared resources led to a significant (25-40%) drop in specific performance compared with the previous-generation AMD microarchitecture. As a result, Bulldozer cores do not just work at half the speed of Sandy Bridge cores. In addition to that the performance of the Bulldozer processor module with two cores is even lower than that of a single Sandy Bridge core with enabled Hyper-Threading technology. Should we expect any performance records from a CPU with such microarchitecture? This is more of a rhetorical question…
Overclocking and power consumption....Performance/watt...:down:
http://limages.vr-zone.net/body/13694/shocking.jpg.jpeg
http://limages.vr-zone.net/body/1369...price.jpg.jpegQuote:
The results are shockingly bad to say the least. On overclocked full load, the power usage of the slower FX-8150 was nearly TWICE that of the faster i7-2600K. We haven't seen such monstrous power usages except in some dual socket systems or extreme overclocking (which ours isn't). We redid the tests multiple times using different motherboards and power measuring equipment but the results were the same everytime. Using a multimeter, the 12v rail on the extra 8+4pin CPU connectors also measured a whopping ~23A. With overclocked power loads like these, its no wonder AMD has to ship a water cooling solution together with the chip.
http://limages.vr-zone.net/body/1369...power.jpg.jpeg
I will not try 7Ghz 8 cores under load with the press kit, maybe someone else will still need it for a review... Brian will probably be not afraid.
I had high hopes for a performance boost over the early silicon, even being aware months back that the CPU was not ideal for 3Dbenching, it was kind of a bummer. Even at 6.5Ghz I had like 9850CPU score in 06...sigh... Wprime was awfull too sigh x 2.. i won,'t talk about superPi as I will get flamed at :p so I stopped wasting LN2 to go or higher clocks...
BUT : For gamers this is not a bad CPU at all. OC it lightly (4.5-4.8) and it will serve you well ( it's not all about raw performance as the GPU is the limiting factor once you cranck up the detail and Res ) If the soft is adapted, it can be a good encoding CPU...
But the prices have to be far lower then what they are at... 2500K has dropped to 185 euros, so the FX8150 has to be at 175 or similar in a few weeks ( unless they included the all in one cooling setup )... also 990FX boards are not cheap either...
I hope Piledriver is at least 20% better then Zambezi...
That looks very dissapointing if you take Moore's Law into consideration.Quote:
Originally Posted by AKM
For servers bulldozer looks really good!Quote:
Originally Posted by bamtan2
There is enough old software out there based on classic x86 performance - why we should not care?Quote:
Originally Posted by eXa
Haha not even close - not sure about vantage but 06 is total fail :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Dumo
Haha one GIF tells everything about Faildozer :rotf:Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
Point #1 : Monstru, you were right
Point #2 : Bulldozer WILL gain in performance with newer OS / kernels . I have a feeling this is what is happening: the OS is unaware of the two integer cores in a module, so one of them is being underutilized - the shared L1 between the two might be causing cache invalidation problems (as looncraz reported). Overall, the two integer cores end up performing worse than a single core, which in turn might be smaller than the single integer unit in K10.5
If these two problems get fixed Bulldozer should gain atleast +10-20% performance in Integer operations. Now why the FPU is in such a bad shape I have no idea. I would love to see an indepth analysis of the architecture and where they might have gone wrong (yeah, maybe AT will do it soon ;)) Probably they are waiting for software updates. Hopefully Piledriver will see a better time when it releases six months later. Bulldozer, as it is, is DEAD.
Yeah because we have seen so many benches.. oh wait Linpack which is a HPC benchmark right now shows abysmal performance... are you really gona try to produce a hype again... Wait and see till the actualy product is here before spouting nonesens.Quote:
Originally Posted by gosh
Guys, if you think about it, in the end the biggest fault is the marketing's team fault. Ok, the engineers got into some problems along the way, and things haven't turned out like they should. Nevertheless, for sure this must be the base of something better, otherwise there is no point in launching it. So somewhere along the way, we will see something better based on this arch. Dunno when, dunno how much better, but this has to be a starting point for something.
But...in this situation, at least NOT name this FX, and at least put a price tag 10-20 Euros lower then 2500K if you want to be in any way competitive and if you do not want to deceive the buyers...If FX-8150 would have been 20 Euros cheaper then i2500K from the start, then the only problems would be the power consumption and the comparison with Phenom II. Still much better then how this turned out in the end...
And here we go again, the same hype from the same people.Quote:
Originally Posted by gosh
I said for ages dessau needs to go.. but nope he is still there...
srsly someone needs to slap amds marketing devision:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rDwXuAINJk
Trying to make pile of :banana::banana::banana::banana: look like a bread. Thats what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Regarding that video: http://i.imgur.com/H8e92.jpg
I was going to write a somewhat long post about BD, but I think it's not even necessary, so I'll do it in 3 words:
AMD Bulldozer sucks.
If you see Hans de Vries, JF-AMD, or any of the "big" guys posting anything about this, tell us!
Well.... I guess all we can say at this point was that silence and delays just about always = a bad thing
So they switch from 980x to 2600K to 2500K comparisons whenever they see they would get hammered ? Way to go AMD...
Slide in 1100T in those benchmarks and see Zambezi being massive 10% faster with 33% more "cores" ,15% more clockspeed and 8MB more cache. They failed with Bulldozer on desktop,period. They enter year 2012 with Bobcat level of IPC,going backwards in time instead jumping over K10. Llano's core is a speed train compared to chariot of bulldozer :)
no. what matters most in servers is performance per watt! bulldozer loses to intel at this. I don't see why OEMs will build many bulldozer servers at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by gosh
Pfahahahah I even didn't noticed that... they benched a 2500K and said it was a 980X... hahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by kik
But on second though, the score was somwehat low for a 980X.. it usually scores in the 8.x region... :p:
When AMD started extensively talking about UPCOMING revisions of Bulldozer (Piledriver, Steamroller, etc) during the Bulldozer presentation, I think a lot of us sat up and said "uh oh". It felt like they wanted to focus upon what was coming instead of concentrating upon what was about to be launched.
Seems that sentiment was pretty much spot on. :(
It is also ironic how people want to talk about Windows 8 performance when the final version is only due out at the END of next year. By that time Zambezi should already be replaced (unless there are more delays) while Ivy Bridge will be hitting almost all of Intel's lineup. Plus, don't think for a second that Sandy Bridge won't see some form of performance improvement in Windows 8.
So we're back to square one: AMD has released an architecture that looks like it was supposed to compete against Bloomfield if it wasn't for all the delays. Instead, it gets murdered by Sandy Bridge in most scenarios while the marketing types will continue to pull positive talking points from the ether.
Can't they be sued for such a clear case of deceptive marketing/lies?
more GHz more ram MHz
but score is suck!!!
I will say this reading all about architectural changes is very interesting.
http://semiaccurate.com/2011/10/12/b...ionary-uncore/
Might not have performance of my SB, but I think fx-8120 looks like a fun chip to mess around with :D
This explains the recent firings a lot better at least. While the product sucks and that's clearly bad, it looks much better on their board to have actual reasons instead of just randomly ousting people. Might help them a bit in the long run when it comes to negotiating large scale server deals
I just want some ln2 fun again and I just went on newegg and the 8150 were out so I got the 8120 and a 990FX UD7. cant wait to have some ln2 fun again. its been too long.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sgt.McRuff
With all these smoke & mirrors about how some people with hands on time with BD saying they would get this for their next system, was about what ? Just for them being able to break GHz records ?
Does it matter if they can o/c it to 10Ghz, yet it still performs like a 5GHz x6 part ? :shakes:
The line has been drawn in the sand, if whomever comes out with a new CPU, and they don't have a good preview or solid information, then nobody will believe them, nor should they.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Oh hell this is such a disappointment.
I've only ever owened 4 Intel cpus, the 486, P3, E6850 and my current 2600K I only got that 2 months ago.
At the time I though I was crazy for buying it just because I wanted an m-itx system. Now I'm over the moon.
Oh AMD...what have you done...
I really wanted this FX to live up to the moniker's legacy from the Athlon 64 days.
wow this thingie is slower and hotter than ancient yorkfield in gaming..Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
http://www.abload.de/img/img0033850nuhi.gif
Indice 100 = Deneb
Actually, I am still getting a bulldozer for my next system.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobaltrock
Since finding architectural choke points is a hobby of mine.
FX-4xxx will be epic fail.. whos gona buy that...
And isn't trinity also 2M/4C? If they only get the 10-15% performance increase this thing will be slower then llano (cpu wise).
Newegg allready sold out of 8150 at $279.99 They still have some 8120's tho.
Thats what I was thinking as well, originally I was thinking trinity should shape up to be a great followup fusion product before seeing the overall BD results, the IPC is just going to kill it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornet331
Just a quick note:
As much as I dislike the (relatively) poor performance of Bulldozer I have absolutely no understanding for the Intel "fans" who revel in the "fail" of this launch.
If you like Intel products you should wish for AMD putting out competitive products!!!
If you don't know why then.... well.... whatever... let's just say that we're living in capitalist market economies.....
yeah i got 1 8150 and 1 8120...limit 1 per customer : (. i plan to connect the two cpus/rigs with hpc software and then i can encode with 16 cores yay. idk about those power numbers (energy is pretty cheap), i am going to test with my kilo watt switch when i get them.Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
lol why not just get 2 2600ks? Wouldn't that seem to be the logical thing to do after seeing the performance numbers?
I would say most where expecting, hoping and wishing for a much more competitive product but what are you suppose to say about things after seeing the results, look the other way and pretend you didn't see...Quote:
Originally Posted by MattiasNYC
I've been kinda pissed about Bulldozer since yesterday. I admit that. Today I searched for The Witcher 2, Total War: Shogun 2, Metro 2033, Battlefield 3, and Deus Ex: HR gaming scores. If the future holds more multithreaded games in store, then the 8150 isn't a complete loss.
Only time will tell...
Has anybody missed the fact that BD has 2B transistors?
Using the same transistor count they could glue two Thubans together for 12C/12T 12MB L3 Quad channel RAM monster... I am not even mentioning SB's transistor count...
What the hell did they waste transistors on?
Fermi engineers moonlighting at AMD you would think...Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
A few hours and already OOS @ Newegg. Lol....http://204.14.213.185/Product/Produc...82E16819103960
Dunno if it means "limited long term availability". Lol
the way I see it get a 2500k cheap for your 24/7 rig and have fun on air. I just want to see some ln2 scaling with bulldozer. Its for fun. Ive waited too long and havent used any of my ln2 crap in a year. sandy sux for ln2. I dont see what everyone is complaining about. we finally have some new hardware that scales well with extreme cooling and everyone complains. I dont get it. quit comparing intel to amd and just overclock and have fun. geez. I feel like just quitting ocing altogether if this is how people are going to act.