Agree with this 100%. Thought I'd give them a shot but their bios's aren't really well done and they take forever, I'll stick with Asus and MSI and I'm pawing this board off asap.
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Check your ram timing entry and use the default jedec timing, try cl8 or cl9 for 1866, 990fx don't support 2133 unless you OC it from there. I think the problem is the compatibility of your ram modules.Quote:
When I tried to have a look what the BIOS had changed the timings to after reverting to DDR-800 MHz I was met by this error:
You have entered an invalid value in ram timing that's why it prompts you for an error. try using the default timing as I've said.
goodluck...:)
PS
I've emailed ASROCk for the last 7 days and they didn't replied to me yet, I've got problems configuring my ripjaws ddr3 1600 @ cl6 timing, and also requested them to include mem multiplier options in the uefi. Hoping they would reply to me...
The only problem being encountered here is the ram configurations and everything can be run on default settings. I think it can be corrected by a bios update hopefully, other than that this board has a lot of features it performs and OC so well not only on par with ASUS\GIGA but even more...:yepp:Quote:
Agree with this 100%. Thought I'd give them a shot but their bios's aren't really well done and they take forever, I'll stick with Asus and MSI and I'm pawing this board off asap.
My ddr3 1600 is running @ ddr3 1698 cl8 so far so good, I'll check if i can raise it up a bit...:)
max oc for my 955be:
http://i456.photobucket.com/albums/q...l/95545ghz.jpg
If you take a look at the pictures I've provided and the text I've written you'll see that the board fails to do my Mushkins at 1866 Mhz CL9. Even with the CPU on stock. Here are the pictures of this again:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2j5b3mw.jpg
As you can see I'm trying for 1866 MHz at 9-11-10-28-28, this works until I decide to turn off the computer and turn it on again and this is what happens when I did:
http://i40.tinypic.com/280uusw.jpg
I have also tried different RAM. Here are pictures with a pair of 2GB 1600 MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) Corsair XMS3:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...reshutdown.png
Better picture: http://imageshack.us/f/685/beforeshutdown.png
And as you can see they work fine until I decide to turn it off and on again:
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...lackscreen.png
Better picture: http://imageshack.us/f/18/aftershutdownandblacksc.png
After a shutdown even the XMS3 revert to fail safe settings. Even at 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24.
Also, there is nothing wrong with any of my RAM. All the sticks have been tested on a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 and a GA-890GPA-UD3H (using Phenom 2s though).
And also if you read what I wrote, when I got that error I never entered any RAM timings. I couldn't. I was simply trying to read them of the SPD profile as the BIOS has a function for that. And when I actually did try to change them manually after having the BIOS revert my 1866 MHz 9-10-10-28-38 settings to 800 MHz CL6 after a failed boot to Windows I couldn't, as the error message constantly popped up whenever I tried to make any changes.
There might be an FX 8150 bios incompatibility issue there along with the mem modules, you'll just have to wait for asrock's reply regarding that matter for now, phenom 2 cpu's seems to be working fine, hope someone who also uses an fx8150 with this board will shed us some light...Quote:
After a shutdown even the XMS3 revert to fail safe settings. Even at 1600 MHz 9-9-9-24.
Also, there is nothing wrong with any of my RAM. All the sticks have been tested on a Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7 and a GA-890GPA-UD3H (using Phenom 2s though).
And also if you read what I wrote, when I got that error I never entered any RAM timings. I couldn't. I was simply trying to read them of the SPD profile as the BIOS has a function for that. And when I actually did try to change them manually after having the BIOS revert my 1866 MHz 9-10-10-28-38 settings to 800 MHz CL6 after a failed boot to Windows I couldn't, as the error message constantly popped up whenever I tried to make any changes.
I've just got a mail from the support guy. He said that they are working to implement the missing memory frequency (2133, 2400) options.
Good news...thanks...:)Quote:
I've just got a mail from the support guy. He said that they are working to implement the missing memory frequency (2133, 2400) options.
well one thing i do know is that this is one sexy board
wonder if it will support Noctua NH-D14 cant find nothing
about it
EDIT:
N/M i found it and no it dont support the Noctua NH-D14
i ment to say it does support Noctua NH-D14 sry i should of worded it better
but what i was trying to ask if this board would hold the Noctua NH-D14 as i didnt find
nothing about it but with alittle more searching and opening my damn eyes more i found my answer
Ty Warwian for answer my question even tho i wasnt clear on it but you knew ty again
also would you beable to show my pictures or send me a msg with pics
Thanks Roger
Anyone know when an official BIOS update with better memory handling is coming? I tried emailing Asrock with no reply? So far their support is really rocking my As:p:
Beta bios for DDR3-2133/2400.
For DDR3-2400,you need to adjust cpu voltage and cpu_nb voltage. EXP 1.4v for cpu voltage and 1.25v for cpu_nb voltage.
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Thanks a lot mate:up:Quote:
Beta bios for DDR3-2133/2400.
For DDR3-2400,you need to adjust cpu voltage and cpu_nb voltage. EXP 1.4v for cpu voltage and 1.25v for cpu_nb voltage.
Anything new? Does anybody have the first 0.xx UEFI? (i think its the 0.27)
Thx
Just 1.5v new BIOS.
I hope that runs better than 1.3 with FX-8150 ¬¬
I test it this afternoon...
The good new are for example that you can reach 5150mhz easy, but the bad notice is that I can't stabilize the 8cores at any speed for play Battlefield 3 ¬¬
Best setup voltage/speed is 4800Mhz.
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/2...2002133mhz.png
I think that L3 cache causes lag to Main Memory ¬¬
The new BIOS and old BIOS have a bug calculating speed from the multiplier 21x. The BIOS uses the wrong value for speed and you need to restart to get the correct value.
http://img600.imageshack.us/img600/5483/errorhj.png
I will continue investigating...
Thanks for the info, does the beta bios 1.48v has the same function as to the publicly released 1.5v bios?Quote:
The new BIOS and old BIOS have a bug calculating speed from the multiplier 21x. The BIOS uses the wrong value for speed and you need to restart to get the correct value.
1.48 has 2133/2400MHz RAM support, 1.50 does not.
1.50 bios on BD ... something it wrong ? :shocked: and i have a problem as same as comrade fasterklander .
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http://image.free.in.th/z/io/111117001253.jpg
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http://image.free.in.th/z/ii/111117001311.jpg
I'm not sure if you have seen my posts on the previous pages but I had a bunch of similar problems with this board along with my FX-8150. The solution? I returned it to the store and bought myself a Crosshair V Formula. The result? No problems whatsoever. I just couldn't stand the horrible BIOS-support for this board, such a shame really as it seemed like a solid board hardware wise.
interesting, i followed OP 1st page post re:LLC @50%...
yeeeehaa, always left it at default, set it to 50% (1/2 in AsRock bios)...played....
went from 4.1 to 4.31gig with ease, probably more, WTF does this setting REALLY do, I have huge Vdrop under load even with 50% setting and stressing/benching, .06v, strangest thing..
wondering..
only recent thing I did was update bios to 1.5....
laterzzzz....
I'm curious why this thread all of a sudden ended on 12-1-2011?
There have obviously been new BIOS releases since then. Have all the BIOS issues been resolved? Is it now possible to run (4) DIMMs at 1866+ MHz. without issue? Has the indicated frequencies for the multipliers been corrected? Anyone have any new insight or issues with the Fatal1ty 990FX Pro mobo?
Now's your chance to speak up. I expect a lot of folks to be popping a new Vishera CPU into these boards within hours, so I'd like to know what is and what is not right on this mobo. ;)
Nobody talking, huh??? :confused:
Must be everyone traded in their Asrock Fatal1ty 990FX mobo for the next trick-of-the-week mobo? <LOL>
Just picked up a Fatal1ty 990FX Pro yesterday to replace my trusty old DK 790FX-M2RSH.
I'm curious what the serial number range is on your mobo and what BIOS version it came with. Mine is a 24000 range with V1.80 installed - which surprised me as this must be a recent production mobo. According to Asrock this board has Vishera/Piledriver support from V1.70 onward. V1.80/1.90 have some CPU updates and Win 8 fixes.
You'll see nice performance bumps going to a 1090T and the an FX-8350. Steamroller should be at least as big a jump so you're good for years to come with this mobo.
My motherboard was secondhand and one of the very first going by the serial number.
I'm not sure about the BIOS, I'll check it when I install the board and update if required.
OK cool. Just thought it could be useful comparing notes.
Right now I'm testing V1.80 which came on the mobo. Some folks on other boards think V1.90 may still be buggy??? I know from this and other threads that the early BIOS were in need of many fixes so keep that in mind if you have issues with an early BIOS version.
Right now I'm at 4.8 GHz. solid with the FX-8350 under P95 and OCCT. Core temps are ~55C under 100% load for hours. Still not happy with the Asrock BIOS or VRM throttling issues but I'll be talking with them next week after I test BIOS v1.70 and v1.90. Currently I'm using v1.80.
11-7-12 Update
I don't see much if any benefit as far as overclocking to BIOS v1.70 vs. v1.80 vs. v1.90. If there is some benefit I haven't found it yet. At least with v1.90 which also has Win 8 fixes, you don't have to look at stupid John Fatal1ty's face in the BIOS, so that's a real plus IMO. Asrock did enhance the BIOS background for a 3-D type effect which is nice I guess for reviewers and those who spend all day playing in the UEFI screens. It would have been better to spend that time correcting the VRM overheating issues, IMO.
12-4-12 Update
Extensive testing shows that the VRM circuit phase changes while stress testing can cause a message: "illegal sumout, 0 errors, 100 warnings" in Prime95. Depending on what frequency and Vcore you are running, this can occur after ~45 minutes of P95 blend or sooner with a high Vcore.
I'm very happy with the Asrock 990FX Fatality mobo. It does everything I want and more. Seeing as though Asus mobos are the only ones I've ever had fail in the past 20 years of building PCs for Biz, Asus is not high on my list of preferred mobos.
This is my first Asrock mobo and it's their "high end" model so it's no surprise that it works really well. If you plan to use Win 8 you'll want to upgrade to BIOS 1.90 if your mobo doesn't already come with it. Win 8 is suppose to enhance the FX processors performance a few percentage points above Win 7. IMO Asus mobos are over-rated. They *may* have a few more BIOS adjustments but that doesn't necessarily mean that they overclock any better than the Asrock or Gigabyte mobos.
My FX-8350 will run rock solid @ 4700 MHz. @ 1.425 Vcore with 1.2v CPU-NB on an Xigmatek Aegir HSF, without issues. I can run 4800 MHz. but it takes a big jump in Vcore so it's not worth the effort IMO.
Well my day was made..found the last ( at the moment) 8350. Ordered and paid immediately. CPU and mobo will be in my hands by Wednesday. Looking forward to playing with AMD again..Next 7970 to 8000 series
Excellent. I suspect that you'll like the FX-8350 as it performs well and OC's nicely. One thing that several of us have found is that unlike any other CPU that we have experienced, you can create system instability with the FX-8350 by giving it too much Vcore or CPU-NB voltage - even when there is no heat issue. Keep that in mind if you plan on overclocking. With a good HSF you should be able to hit 4.6-4.8 GHz. reliably depending on all the factors involved.
My FX-8350 requires 1.425 Vcore and 1.25 CPU-NB for 100% P95/OCCT stability @ 4.7 GHz. I can get to 4.8 GHz. stable but it requires a big jump is Vcore so I don't bother for 100 MHz.
Thanks AMDforME, Yes looking forward to getting my setup running. At this point i have no idea what cooler i will be getting. Will have to run the stock one till later or maybe look for old Silverarrow. Getting the AsRock also so all your input highly appreciated. As said the last AMD i had was the 8120 and 8150 and this was when they just hit the market.
For me my PC must just be stable during gaming and yes OC is a must lol
How is your testing going on the BIOS's as indicated in your previous posts: AMDFORME?
Got my mobo and chip. At this stage still installing and updating Win 8. Used the OC profile in bios and running at 4200 mhz. Will play more as time goes on. using a Thermalright Silver Arrow cooler
You should be able to manually OC considerably higher than 4200 MHz. when you get around to tuning your system.
I have not found any performance advantage to BIOS V1.70/1.80/1.90 in Win 7 but I do know that Asrock indicates that 1.90 is required for Win 8. BIOS V1.90 also does away with the stupid John Fatality face in BIOS graphics and boot, etc. and is much better IMO.
The silver arrow should work well. I've used a lot of Thermalright HSFs over the years and they are top quality IME.
Glad to help! If your mobo came with V1.90 then it's a fairly recent production, say in the last ~3 months or so based on the BIOS date posted on the website. If they did any minor tweaks, you should have the latest and hopefully greatest mobo.
Win 8 is suppose to be a few percentage points faster than Win 7 on the FX processors as Microsucks reportedly improved the sorting/delivery of threads to the cores.
I love my new ASRock Fatal1ty. I went to the dark side. http://valid.canardpc.com/2654641
This particular thread is about the Asrock 990FX model Fatality mobo.
I was a big Amd fan for a long time. I came here to see how much everyone likes the ASRock 990fx board. I'm not a Intel fan boy looking to start crap. I do a lot of crunching for team Extremesystems and Intel just makes more numbers.
No problem. Well I came back to my beloved AMD from both Z77 and X79 and yes not as quick if you looking at number crunching and certain benches but for me in day to day usage my amd feels no different. I see a slight lower max fps in games with my AMD compared to my 3770K and 3960X I had but average FPS similar. I am truly happy with my 8350 and I am sure I will be even more once I OC my chip closer to 4.9-5.0mhz. Had the AsRock Z77 OC and man that is a sweet mobo but this 990FX Fatal1ty is great. Just loving it.
My 10 year old son wants a Fatal1ty board like mine. He would love the 990fx with my old AMD 720be as a starter.
BTW, anyone who is going to explore the limits of your CPU/RAM would be wise to download BIOS V1.8 and V1.9, unzip and load them both on to a USB flash drive. The reason for this is that the Asrock BIOS can get confused and go into a "stupid loop" if you have a crash or need to power down for a freeze. Sometimes disconnecting power from the PC for 10 seconds will clear things, but not always. Sometimes the BIOS re-set button on the back of the case/mobo will re-set things but not always. Storing your favorite BIOS configs. is helpful. ;)
When the BIOS goes into it's "stupid loop" you will see wierd things like when you make BIOS changes to CPU/RAM frequencies, they do not actually change, even though the BIOS shows them as changed. The only means to fix the confused BIOS chip, without replacing it, is to flash to the other BIOS version you have on your USB drive. Use the 2.0 USB port and Instant flash in the Advanced screen. Otherwise you'll think that you're testing a configuration that you really aren't.
I use Core Temp, CPU-Z and OCCT to quickly check what the real frequencies, latencies, etc. are. You can boot into Windoze with the newly loaded BIOS and then re-boot and flash back to the original BIOS version you were using and all will be fine.
The sweet spot for most FX-8350's seems to be ~4.6-4.7 GHz. Some will make it higher, but many won't and still run P95/OCCT for hours without errors. Good cooling helps in that it allows higher Vcore, but IME once you find the optimum Vcore, CPU-NB and CPU frequency combination, it takes a lot more Vcore for only another 100 MHz. CPU speed. If you're just OC'ing to see how high you can go then it might be worth it. If you're looking for a rock solid PC then the 100 MHz. may not be important considering the increased power consumption required and the resulting thermal load.
It's worth noting that IME the FX CPUs OC a little differently than past CPUs in that more Vcore or CPU-NB voltage beyond the optimum voltage, can actually cause system instability - even when CPU heat isn't an issue. Thus it takes quite a bit of testing to find the sweet spot for your particular CPU.
You can isolate the other hardware components such as RAM and test one item at a time by underclocking the RAM and using P95 small FFT or small file set in OCCT. This way you eliminate most of the testing of RAM and concentrate the testing on the CPU. Once you find the max frequency for the CPU, then you can under clock it and test for the max RAM frequency.
Once you know that information, then you can try to combine the information keeping in mind that RAM frequency above ~1333 MHz. - 1600 MHz. doesn't make hardly any system performance improvement at all. (RAM testing software greatly exaggerates the changes compared to actual system performance). It's always better to use the highest stable CPU speed and live with whatever the RAM frequency is stable.
The final test in P95 should be "blend" and in OCCT - "large data set", so that it tests the CPU and RAM well to insure complete system stability. Several people have documented that the CPU Vcore and frequency can change lower when in manual OC mode - if the mobo VRM circuit gets too hot. The VRM circuit will cut the Vcore voltage/CPU frequency and VRM phases in some cases, to cool the VRM circuit.
You can observe this using Core Temp, HW Monitor and F-Stream on Asrock mobos. The Vcore/CPU will fluctuate continuously when the VRM reaches this set temp. until the stress test is discontinued. In some mobos this can cause P95/OCCT to error out.
UPDATE: 2-16-13
I have confirmed that in P95 stress testing the VRM circuit can overheat and throttle the CPU frequency and voltage. Unless you run your PC @ 100% load for anything other then stress testing, this should not be an issue. I was able to cool the VRM heatsink by adding a second high flow 120mm fan to my CPU HSF on the exhaust side. This is directly over the VRM heatsink so it blows some air across the heatsink in addition to cooling the CPU a little better. Depending on what HSF you use, you may be able to do this, though it really isn't necessary unless you are running an FX-8xxx model CPU under 100% load, OC'ed to ~4.5+ GHz. @ 1.4+ Vcore for long periods of time.
There is a bug in BIOS V1.90 when you run RAM above 2133 MHz. The BIOS doesn't change the CPU-NB frequency above the normal 2200 MHz. even though it appears to in the BIOS.
For those who might be interested in the Fatality Professional mobo, Asrock has discontinued this model so if you want one you had better buy now as suppliers are exhausting their inventory. The Asrock Extreme 9 is a similar new AM3+ mobo but it does have some differences in particular only one PCI slot vs. two PCI slots on the Fatality mobo. Both boards appear to be good so if you don't need the features of the Fatality AM3+ mobo you will likely be happy with the Extreme 9.
Confirmed that this model is now EOL, possibly the last hurrah? Requested from Asrock HQ to solve certain RAM issues
BIOS L1.93
http://www.filedropper.com/asrock990fat
pw is YMMV
Enjoy :)
What RAM issues are/were you experiencing? Did the Beta BIOS V1.93 fix the issues? V1.91B fixed the 2133 MHz. RAM speed not allowing a proper CPU-NB frequency above the default 2200 MHz. Even though the BIOS would allow you to change the CPU-NB frequency higher, it didn't actually increase the frequency.
L1.93 bios link has broken.
I e-mailed Asrock to inquire what the diff was between V1.91B and V1.93. They did not respond which is unusual IME. :(
...
Asrock HQ send me the 1.93 Bios.
from Asrock TSD (Asrock_TSD@asrock.com.tw)
Dear Sir,
Thanks for contacting ASRock.
The BIOS L1.93 as attachment improve DRAM compatibility.
Sincrely yours.
ASRock TSD.
reupload mf link > http://www.mediafire.com/?12nbi4s83ozanof
Asrock had taken down BIOS V1.93 because it had some code issues that caused corruption in some systems. When did they send you BIOS V1.93?
V1.93 does not corrupt all systems. You might want to e-mail Asrock and ask if the version that they e-mailed you is a revised V1.93 that has been corrected or if it is the original. As long as it doesn't corrupt your system when you install it, then you are fine.
Asrock hasn't been real clear on the "corruption" or what the V1.93 does other than "improve RAM compatibility". There probably isn't any system performance gain with any of the newer BIOS as this would require different timings or other settings that should have been fine tuned long ago.
The V1.93 is on their web now - and it work fine.
Right now i'm testing the 1.95A BIOS.
You can download it from my archive:
https://www.box.com/s/1jpu0i86nmjohhnsge6z
I don't have the change log, but i know it has
updated AGESA 1.5 codes.
L1.93 has a small RAM voltage readout error that L1.94 corrects but once L1.95 is determined to be reliable it will be posted, though no system performance advantage has been demonstrated with any BIOS updates from V1.70 onward. The updates basically improve RAM compatibility (and fix minor errors), as RAM ICs vary from maker to maker and even batch to batch.
Well, the 1.93 and 1.95 don't work for me - when I save even the default options
in BIOS, on the next post I get the error that the specs are restored to default.
But with 1.91 and 1.90 it works for me just fine.
Could You share the 1.94?
The L1.93 should work fine. L1.94 is just a minor correction to the incorrect RAM voltage display. L1.95 is pretty untested so far.
BTW, Asrock has tested the FX-9590 on both the 990FX Fatality Pro and Extreme9 and found them to work fine.
The 1.95A is made for the FX-9590. But on the old FX-8120 I can't get it to work (and the 1.93).
Always an error appears - even when I save the default settings:
http://img261.imagevenue.com/loc131/..._122_131lo.jpg http://img261.imagevenue.com/loc406/..._122_406lo.jpg
The 1.91 works fine for me.
Valg-
I'd e-mail Asrock support and see what they know. Something may not have gotten written properly for the FX-8120 CPU ??? They will provide L1.94 if you ask but it may not be any better than L1.93 if there is a programming issue in the BIOS for the FX-8120.
I have mailed them, but my ASRock referent in EU will be on vacation for 3 weeks,
so I have to be a little patient :)
You can e-mail Asrock Taiwan and they will respond in a day or so. That is where all the BIOS are written anyway.
Quote:
"If you got friends having any issue for ASRock models, please, suggest them to contact us directly.
We are glad to help our customers to solve/fix problem/issues.
Contact ASRock TSD: http://event.asrock.com/tsd.asp
Good Day,
ASRock TSD"
I rather wait for my ASRock referent in EU. I have time.
He is helping me, i'm helping him - so I don't want to change the referent.
Look what I got from him - just in case something gets wrong with the beta BIOS-es:
http://img207.imagevenue.com/loc205/..._122_205lo.jpg http://img45.imagevenue.com/loc417/t..._122_417lo.jpg
That's fine. I was just offering a direct link as Asrock in Taiwan ends up making the new BIOS so they want to help as much as possible with any customer issues.
My mail is already forwarded to them - maybe my referent already got the answer, but he is on vacation.
He will inform me when he is back.
I use 8120 with 1.95A bios it's work.
http://imageshack.us/a/img819/705/hsd5.jpg
What RAM do You use?
G.Skill Sniper 8GB 1866 (2x4GB)
Well, the 1.94 is not working for me either...
All the new beta ones, 1.93/1.94/1.95 are based around RAM compatibility - but they seem to lost the
love for Patriot.
1.90/1.91 working like a charm.
It could be the RAM. I've run G.Skill and Mushkin 1866 NHz. @ 2133 MHz. without issue on an FX-8350. I would think that you could down clock the RAM to 1600 or 1866 and see if the BIOS no longer gives you the error message. That would be a clue the RAM is the issue. It could be a lot of things including a bad BIOS chip.
I've got two BIOS chips - i've tried both - same thing.
I've set already the def. settings - RAM at 1333MHz - always the same error.
None of the newer BIOS offer any performance advantage so it's a moot point unless you have a need for something in one of the newer BIOS.
But maybe they fix the HT and NB freq.
On 1.90, setting the HT and NB freq. does nothing.
On 1.91 the HT is fixed, but the NB settings still don't work.
The NB and HT settings work fine for me on V1.90. I've ran many tests with the various settings and onserved proper changes with all except when the RAM was set to 2133 Mhz. Then there was an issue but not at other frequencies. I had them correct the one error with L1.91B.
Well, RAM settings work for me on V1.90, but the NB and HT don't.
Only HT works on L1.91A, the NB don't. I don't own L1.91B, so I can't tell.
Tried the L1.91B - same thing.
Works for my config:
V1.90
L1.91A
Does not work for my config:
L1.91B
L1.93
L1.94
L1.95A
All those updates have some "memory fixes" that don't work with my Vipers:
http://www.patriotmemory.com/product...id=1167&type=1
Have you tried one DIMM only?