No you're talking crap about future intel products beating imminent AMD products, with nothing except "it's intel" as justification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skratch
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No you're talking crap about future intel products beating imminent AMD products, with nothing except "it's intel" as justification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skratch
I actually meant surprised in a positive sense, but if you're expecting 4Ghz, yes you will be disappointed, unless you count Turbo Core.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
I actually find it quite exciting for there to be, at the very least, no drop in clock rates in going from latest revisions of Phenom X4 to the first revision of Bulldozer, which is I found the clockspeeds to be absolutely great.
It's going to give some good improvements over Phenom in most tests, which is very exciting to me. Can't really understand how this wouldn't be the case for everyone.
See..? You repeat yourself when called upon to understand said archetecture. Exact same answer ("what is this, an apple forum")...Quote:
Originally Posted by Skratch
Again, you have failed to demonstrate you understand archetectual differences, & just seem to yell "intel" as your answer for everything (because ur an OC).
Are you not embarrased?
please people with sanity, don't feed the trolls, just report them to the authority as you see it. Responding to them is exhausting, it's like trying to paint over water, useless. :brick:
Come on, that argument isn't gonna cut it. Either company can cram as many cores into a given area till the cows come home, or at least until u cant cool it anymore. The winner will allways be the fastest single thread/core company. Thats been INTC and will be for the forseeable future. Again, if BD was an INTC killer, we'd know about it already.
RussC
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Originally Posted by DarthShader
I could have sworn this went down exactly the same in the other Zambezi thread. Yeesh, don't people get tired of rehashing the same arguments over and over?
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Unlock FX4110 to 6110/8110? :)
I have to agree with this. I hope you're wrong but there seems to be a lot of sad and desperate AMD fans dying for this thing to kick ass and I feel sorry for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by RussC
I wish it would but honestly, exactly as you say - if this thing was a killer, we'd already know by now.
Wow never heard that argument before!Quote:
Originally Posted by AbRASiON
You aren't reading my posts. I explained the pricing situation (no competition). And i7 970 can already be had for $400, you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
Typical fanboy overreaction. I never said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
Intel has turbo, too, you know. And is already way ahead on single core performance. Let's just hope AMD can catch up. If they get ahead then it means that 8 core BD will be the fastest thing on the market BY FAR, which means that the pricing is going to be very high.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
If they do catch up then it will be a nice competitive product in both well and poorly threaded applications. :up: With advantages in well threaded applications, obviously.
Once again, you aren't reading. I explained how I got to my conclusion. Yet you fail to see that and for some reason decide to insist on your way of ME coming to MY conclusion, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
Once again, typical fanboy overreaction. I never said that.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
Drop it, seriously, it doesn't make you look good. :rolleyes:
Ok fellas,stay cool. It's just a CPU :).
AMD FX-8130p 3.8GHz and 4.2GHz TC:
http://www.ozeros.com/2011/05/amd-za...ias-reveladas/
http://wccftech.com/2011/05/22/asus-...fx-processors/
Typical fanboy rebuttal. See, I can throw the "f" word around too. :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Of course you didn't say that, but you failed to acknowledge there is going to be more from AMD during this and next year, only mentioning the new stuff Intel is going to deliver on the market. Obvious bias is obvious.
Does your reply in five paragraphs make you look any better? It always takes two for an argument... :rolleyes:Quote:
Drop it, seriously, it doesn't make you look good. :rolleyes:
EDIT: Lol, that pic is making headlines! :D But how did they arrive at 3.8GHz?? :confused:
Would the TDP-values make more sense if the processors were clocked as I first proposed? Thus with stockspeeds of 3.6GHz for the FX-8110 and 3.8GHz for the FX-8130P. And a TC boost of +400MHz for both of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
Still feels like a 30Ws TDP is quite much for a frequency increase of 200MHz but it still feels more likely than the FX-8130P having a lower stock frequency over the FX-8110 when having a higher potential turbo frequency.
Those frequencies are identical to what I posted earlier in the thread. Have they been confirmed? I didn't manage to figure out what sources those sites had for those claims.Quote:
Originally Posted by cesariuth
Guys you are the source for 3.8Ghz clock speed ^^.Some site picked up the frequencies from here and then all of them reposted the same thing :). Amazing! :p:
LOL I knew that.Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
It's an opinion, not an argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by jimbo75
I know everything about said "archetecture" Im trying to understand what your still talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by formula M
Go back and read my posts and try to comprehend my valid points on the pricing of BD compared to intels currant offerings.
I never talked about OC and you do know that Ivy bridge is coming out Q1 2012.How is that not relevent to AMDS BD that is about to launch?
If these prices are true then everything I said stands.
You people seem to be very up tight when someone brings up intel.I never even mentioned anything about how well sandys clock because I have no idea how well BD will clock.
I think people need a bunch of these :rolleyes:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g2...chill-pill.jpg
AMD (NYSE: AMD) today announced it will hold a live webcast from COMPUTEX 2011 in Taipei, Taiwan on May 31 at 10:30 p.m. ET (10:30 a.m. UTC in Taiwan on June 1). During the 90-minute webcast, AMD executives and a number of partners will also share exciting news on future plans for the AMD Fusion Family of APUs. To view the live webcast, please visit: www.amdcomputex.com.tw
http://ir.amd.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=74...508&highlight=
You know what is really amasing: THIS:Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
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Originally Posted by perkam
who made up these desktop cpu types for LIano and BD, time to put in few web orders :rofl:
everything is locked :-(
multiplier-wise on the Llanos?Quote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
Those are aimed at OEMs really, I don't even see any reason why they should bring much of it to the channel; if they bring it to retail we'll be seeing another 754 situation.
interesting pictures, since they are officially shipping the mobile parts this comes with no surprise. The E2 is however something i didn't expect to be there yet....Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
no, i cant see the pics ur posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
http://img6.imagebanana.com/img/5f1945z5/Capture.JPG
I had to click the link to see the pics (only padlock pics would show up) and then afterward, they popped up in Macadamia's postQuote:
Originally Posted by w0mbat
HP Pavilion dv6-6110 590euros
15.6" A6-3410MX 1.6Ghz/2.3Ghz Turbo (quad-core)
6GB DDR3
500GB HDD
HD6520M + HD6750M CF
Win7 Home Premium 64bit
http://www.passiontec.de/_fenster.ph...&affId=1376965
Delivery in late june.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendork
Nice anyway. :)
that would be a very nice config for that price, the only thing bad on this is the screen res.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendork
15.6" 1366x768, i don't find it a problem. 16" start 1600x900 but with this "small screens" do it really matter high res? For web browsing can be difficult to read, 17-18" 1600x900 seems more reasonable.
I prefer 100x if instead or more resolution they choose high quality LCD-LED screens.
I'm hoping for a redress of the 13" E350 laptops, maybe their forray into the Intel CULV market.
1366x768 is like looking throught a key hole, a lot of scrolling up and down.
It's ok on a 12", but on a 15" it's and utter joke.
The laptop market is so weird, lots of cheap models with discrete graphics I don't care about, but it's so hard to find higher resolution.
Last year I checked if Asus had a 15.6" model with higher resolution, but I couldn't find a single one.
so with digitimes releasing these prices, I feel one can now accurately guess bulldozer's performance:
http://www.techpowerup.com/img/11-05-23/121a.jpg
the quad core bulldozer will be more expensive than 2500k. and I feel like the unique features on either side cancel each other out (onboard video versus ecc support)
I'd say that means bulldozer will, in fact, be slightly faster than sandy bridge. clap clap.
the high price of the quad to me sounds like low threaded workloads are still dictating prices these days, and since the TDP is 95w for all core counts (4/6/8 excluding the 8130P), im thinking the quad is going to be a few hundred mhz faster than the others, making it a great gaming cpu.
so 30 bucks premium for the unlocked 8core vs the locked one... :(
in the central EU we have a difference of 10euros between the locked 2600 and the unlocked 2600k SB.
how comes AMD wants to charge 30 bucks just so the cpu is unlocked:down:...do the Bulldozer oc that that good:confused:...so that you basically have to have the unlocked one
Is unlocked even needed for a air cooled machine, when you've got those high multipliers?
Let's say stock speed is 18 x 200 MHz, a 50 % overclock would be 18 x 300 = 5400 MHz. I doubt you can go higher on air.. :D
AAbenson, all FX processors are unlocked. And even then, you should be able to overclock any of these processors, regardless of locked or unlocked multipliers.
so you will keep posting this overview in everythread ? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by bamtan2
FAKE OVERVIEW
Why fake if I may ask?Quote:
Originally Posted by duploxxx
i thought FX just means the BD chips, and the P was if its unlockedQuote:
Originally Posted by richierich
From link http://siliconinvestor.advfn.com/rea...msgid=27393140Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
"All the four Zambezi processors will come as Black Edition parts, meaning they feature an unlocked multiplier for higher overclocking headroom."
Why would an unlocked model have 30w higher TDP if it was just unlocked? I think I read that the P-model is a higher clock and/or turbo.
because it also comes higher clocked. like 1055T vs 1090T, huge price difference, because it was unlocked and faster
whats the point of the P in there when they could have just called it the FX-8130, its not like thuban where the extra 5 at the end would mean faster turbo, since P and non P models have the same boost range. so the only thing i see P meaning is that its more power hungry
P for POWAA!!!! :p:
No one but the people at AMD truly know what the "P" differentiates right now. All top level Bulldozer FX processors are unlocked.
High leakage part, maybe? Like TWKR. Could explain the TDP.Quote:
Originally Posted by EniGmA1987
And was there some official confirmation of all FX CPUs being unlocked? O.o
The P is most likely for Performance, Power or some other funny word :PQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
The situation is the same with the Llano SKU's, anything with a "P" as a suffix has 100W TDP and not 65W.
short answer: NOQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
who says the Liano SKU's are with a P?? oh yeah the fake chart does, i think it's time to make a new XLS, this time lets add "C" from crap.
based on fudzilla info :DQuote:
Originally Posted by richierich
P = Higher turbo / more OC headroom
NO / NO (2 letters was to short to reply)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendork
The "P" stands for "POWWAAAAAA!! UNLIMITED POWWWAAAAAAAA!!!!!" :D
im not excited until the model numbers go over 9000Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthShader
The "P" stands for Pizza, which is what I will be having while watching the AMD webcast to find out what the P actually stands for :D
Unlock the power of:
http://gamestory.skn1.com/gamestory/...5/pedobear.jpg
Llano mATX
Gigabyte GA-A75-UD2H
http://ghz.gr/sites/default/files/im...-UD2H/1(1).jpg
http://ghz.gr/forum_topic/first-look...te-ga-a75-ud2h
anybody read this? Just saw it over at Techreport.com
http://www.ngohq.com/home.php?page=a...ead&arc_id=154
http://www.ngohq.com/images/articles...gy_Slide_2.jpg
Source= ngohq.com
EDIT:
lol
BeepBeep2
A8 = Quad Core
A6 = Quad Core
i5 4cores/4thread
i3 2cores/4threads
Ignore my ignorance it's been a loooooonnnngg day XD
I want them to start selling them in bundles..... with Audi A8 quattro and Audi A6 quattro ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendork
I bet one who got to decide the naming is german who loves Audis.
charged: yes, I read it yesterday :), but....comprarsion is not only about CPU performance, but about APU performance (more balanced think)
Same with Intel's marketing team. Well I guess they wanted to be like Apple using i + BMW naming scheme. 3, 5, 7-series :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mechanical Man
It's about price not performance (as stated on the slide).Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
Yeah, if you look at the slides on the next pages it shows a pie chart explaining the balance.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
jjj: Not only price....GPU at Llano will be better than SB= balanced performance between CPU and GPU unit. Il looking forward at new notebooks products
that might be but this was about the slide,it's just a marketing slide about price ranges for systems and we shoouldn't try to read too much into it when it comes to perf.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
in fact it's quite funny how much such slides are analyzed and yet the vantage numbers AMD leaked by mistake went mostly unnoticed.
Nah, i think intel marketing was just selfis. i for Intel.. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by richierich