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great pics!
I will post pics of my system as soon as my camera returns from LA.
I am running an AMD 3200 754 on a K8V delux v2
My block is a Swiftech MCW5002-64T with a 266W Tec powered by my Antech truepower 550W with 36A on the 12V line. Water is then cooled by a BIX2 with two panflow 109CFM fans.
My idle temps are -3C (lowest my temp prob will read) and rises to 11-13C under full load.
all my crap is mounted in a CMstacker
wow very niceQuote:
Originally Posted by labrat23
Here you go this is my tec setup, not really pritty but it works.
http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/5...3948er4.th.jpg
What's the routing on your system like? The pump looks like it goes to your video card, but there's some weird Y or T connector there--what's that all about?
Quote:
Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)
I was waiting for someone to give me heck for that!! :cool: I have the Y turned wrong. :slap: It flows from the pump to the y (drain plug) and then up to the rad. out of the rad into the cpu out of the cpu to the videocard. then up to pay res and back down to the pump. I really need a new case, and I really, really need to change the y on to its sideinstead of the way it is. I didn't notice what I did till I had it all full.
Ah, ok, I see it now. I just couldn' figure out where your pump flow was going :lol:
I plan on changing the y on my next refill!! :) When I seen that I made a dumb @$$ attack it was too late I had the loop over half full! :( I said the heck with it and took a pic anyways to post in here because this is my 3rd setup and the I decided I need to get a system pic posted in here!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by THE JEW (RaVeN)
this is what happens when I'm not paying attention good catch.
Wrong thread?
Im confused mate.
I want to try making a TEC memory module. How much more of an OC can you get with them?
there was one made and posted a few pages down it got him 25 mhz more
unless you are pumping huge volts through the ram it is pointless tho a fan is more than enough
P.s A mod needs to run through this thread and remove all the posts with The RED X
My wife's PC, I put the Vigor Gaming Monsoon in her PC, because I found it inadequate to cool my naked Opty 170, but it's good enough for her 3200 Venice.
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jAkUp: Glad to see your here to! We've been reading each others posts from nvnews.net for a while now. Can't seem to get enough staring time at your PC, what a piece of art work you have there my friend:shocked: . If I can just say one thing, I would water cool your 8800's, that would be the icing on the cake bro....
Take Care
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1058/...49455b.jpg?v=0
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1338/...c809aa.jpg?v=0
jAkUp that set up is a thing of beauty.
I'm going to try running my FlexXLC on a Peltier chilled loop. They are good for 1150+ and don't get too hot on water, to hot to touch over 1066 after a few minutes of memtest on air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silvermirage
The XLC heat spreaders are removable so they might be a good place to start. What wattage would you need to accomodate though? And would you strap TECs to both sides or use a heat spreader?
Swiftech Apogee GT custom 226W Qc Peltier block:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2323/...b29765.jpg?v=0
Installed on my E4300:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2139/...b09ff5.jpg?v=0
It's pumped by this 3000L/H monster:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2383/...c287e9.jpg?v=0
In a dual loop with a VAG Motors radiator:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/...24edd8.jpg?v=0
The third loop is for pressure relief and temperature monitoring but will include this HDD block:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2028/...ebb069.jpg?v=0
It will be sandwiched to the RM1 radiator (radiator on the hot side) to chill the Northbridge, Southbridge and RAM.
I also plan to put my 350/540 on the CPU and TEC the HD2900XT which has already been prepared with Red Gasket Sealer and Modded with copper shims in place of the thermal pads and paint stripped from the contacts to the heatspreader:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/...e00eea.jpg?v=0http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2005/...e389b1.jpg?v=0
Wow that is pretty epic TEC setup, Tyne. How is the progress coming along? I hope you didn't run out of money/time.
Out of time at the moment, juggling two women is eating into my modding time lol. Also planning to leave the TECs until I am totally happy with the water loop.Quote:
Originally Posted by pH(x)
I'm currently planning a 5-way split
GPU
CPU
RAM1
RAM2
Fusion (NB)
I've been given some [insert company name here and I will die] technical documents on automotive cooling system design which I need to read.
oh my... g)-(ost where did you get that block? post some temps with that thing :O
homemade blok, work progress HEREQuote:
Originally Posted by NoRogeR
Looks great mate, that homemade block looks very professional :up: Got any results?Quote:
Originally Posted by g)-(ost
Finally able to post here... Hope you all enjoy.
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i have a evga 780i mobo, i placed order for a Swiftech MCW6500-775T Thermoelectric Water Block... my question is, will there be a problem fitting the Swiftech MCW6500-775T Thermoelectric Water Block in my Mobo?
are there any hindrances setting up the thermoelectric block with teh mosfets or whatsoever?
thanks...
is it ok to you a vaseline
Quote:
Originally Posted by adidassler
you should be fine.. also the mofsets should not be affected if you insulate properly, and coat around the socket with conformal coating, and about the vaseline, I'm not sure but I dont see why not.
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been four (4) years already :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by vengance_01
Is there anyone who using peltier with different voltages ? I searched articles about it but couldn't find.I remember a voltages and ampers list for peltiers.
Someone may have already asked but how did you insulate your CPU socket and Block? That is a very clean looking insulation job. How well does it handle condensation?Quote:
Originally Posted by kayl
NICE!:clap:
wow that was a long time ago, but that was the good old days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blazing fire
Here's my first direct die Waterblock for a 62mm TEC. It will fit a 775 and 1366 socket CPU. Here it's on my OC'd Q6600
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...mg_0083-1-.jpg
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...mg_0082-1-.jpg
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...mg_0091-1-.jpg
Damn, that block looks fantastic! I don't suppose you've had the chance to test on an i7? I've been looking for something to replace my beloved Arctic Spider.
No i haven't tried it on a i7 as i dont have access to one.Quote:
Originally Posted by craigbru
Im supposed to be make the new and improved version soon .. that that should be really really good
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...ock-block2.jpg
Here are some temps for my block
Obviously core temps wont go below 11/4
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1254391557
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1254391557
WoW that looks like a beast!
what TEC do you use?
i have a Frozen CPU 437 one, though i know it's not 437 it's 400 at most but probably 360 . i want to get a Ebay TEC someday and do some testingQuote:
Originally Posted by Delfistyaosani
Nice work Ultrasonic2... Maybe I should have you build me one...
That block looks awesome Ultra! You make that and it works well you could probably sell them at a nice price! :up:
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2
My old tec experiments on old platform (P5B Deluxe / Q6600) TEC Drift 0.8 172W :rolleyes:
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/9985/dsc9979hf.jpg
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i presume this didn't work very well ?
is that epoxy or solider together?Quote:
Originally Posted by GX-BadAngeL
Yep. 172W to week to dissipate heat of 3.6@1.52V Q6600 .. then i don't have more powerful tec's. but it's fun, on 3.2@1.29V freq/voltage cpu temp -10C on middle load as i remember :D
there a two copper plate on each side of tec with thermal compound. When i use TT waterblock (:down:) its bottom was too small and not fully cover tec surfaceQuote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
This is one block a friend of mine(eleven) made ages ago for 478+462 socket.
tecs are so cool
Here's my new 62mm block
http://www.overclock.net/attachments...mg_0239-1-.jpg
very nice, hopefully i can find a power supply soon and get my 226w back on.
Very sweet looking have you tested yet ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2
I have an old Whitewater block with 3 taps / nipples works great.....
Nice work really very niceeeee....:D
got bored with a ~50w tec cooled by my chiller. everyone likes a bit of frost.:)
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...1117220136.jpg
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looks very nice ultra. interested to see the temps on it and when youll be selling it :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2
sexy
My first TEC experiment, RAM cooler with ~125 watts of power :)
http://www.nietbelangrijk.nl/download/file.php?id=3297
http://www.nietbelangrijk.nl/download/file.php?id=3298
http://www.nietbelangrijk.nl/download/file.php?id=3299
:up: Very nice!!
What TEC is that Ultrasonic ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2
Frozen CPU 437 62mmQuote:
Originally Posted by HDCHOPPER
Thanks !
What do you use to power it? I am looking for a proper power supply and need some ideas. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultrasonic2
Well if you want one TEC then I'd get a 12v or a 17v meanwell, maybe a 24v if you really want close to the full Qmax. If you plan on using multiple TECs then 24 or 48v PSUs are a must.
Well for my block with that TEC i recommend a 15 volts meanwell cos it has a 10% voltage adjustment on the rated value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renegade5399
350watts isn't enough mainly because of the high start-up amps required
the max load with prime95 full FFT with stock heatsink with mine was around 51c, and also in your screenshot it only shows it at 53 load?
Renemity73 which post are you referring to ?
and what equip you got cpu ect..?
My TEC water-chiller reservoir experiment. Worklog here:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/project-lo...r-worklog.html
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Using the TECs to chill a water-cooling setup.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4.../trial2041.jpg
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My Twin 50mm TEC block next to a wimpy fuzion block
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1265617495
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1265617433
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1265617433
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1265617433
http://www.overclock.net/attachment....1&d=1265617433
Love it! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by fusionmkx
nice work, seeing this work, Ultrasonic2 gave me a desire to make one too!
Very nice Ultrasonic2 !! What price is a TEC block ? For memory can make a TEC ?
Here are some performance tests of the block as for price PM him or there is a link to his website in the same thread http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=253739Quote:
Originally Posted by elmysterio
A little oldschool TEC action for you guys: my old Asus A7N8X setup w/ 3 power supplies, 3 peltiers, more voltage mods than you can shake a stick at.
226w cpu, 156w gpu, 85w chipset.
Circa 2002:
http://maximumoc.com/img/hardware/as...elt_setup4.jpg
http://maximumoc.com/img/hardware/as...elt_setup5.jpg
LMFAO a floppy!!!!
here's my 4x40mm tec chiller
My Chiller........
48 TEC's w/ Hotside Cooled By Liquid
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/2367/mm3870rev2.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/1133/mm3862rev2.jpg
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/4264/mm3926rev2.jpg
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I just got mine today.
It's the same tec as what fusionmkx has as a water chiller.
But I've only got one.
12709 TEC 136.8w 40mm.
Some people sell them as 90w's, some as 100w's and others as 136.8w's.
Hard to say really what wattage it is without going on google or something.
The labled side, on mine was the cold side.
Mine didn't say anything on it except 12709 which is the part # or model, whatever.
I tested at 20v 1-2w (was a cheapo phone dc adapter for some long gone cordless phone I must of had).
Worked at that setup.
Was enough to warm up a cold heatsink and show just a tiny bit of condinsation from my finger print.
I got it for $1+1 sh from ebay.
The reason I got it, TEG experimentation.
Was able to pull off 0.06v with it press against my window and the other side I had my finger pressed against it.
Not much at all, but that was just a crappy experiment, I'm sure there's method's of doing this a bit better then that lol.
With that info at hand, I calc'ed that it would take 300 of these tec's to make a teg array that puts off 16v, wattage I don't know but I'de hope it would be decent.
Normally I would expect to get 12v+ out of a single teg but I'de have to get a good setup to have it cold on one side and hot on the other.
That at the moment I'm not worried about.
Anyways.
I was wondering if you guys had any use for tec's these days?
Anyone tried teg arrays to feed back into a single tec?
And is it true that in order to pull of something like 100w's of cooling, you must use about 250w's of consumed power?
Edit:
Btw, love the mem cooling idea.
As long as it's economical in some way I'm totally for that hehehe. :D
I've super cooled ram before it's the only way I know of to break them in for higher speeds, ie if it wasn't stable at one speed, the only way to break it in is to super cool them and run pi on them until they break in.
After a certain amount of break in, they'll beable to eventually run at that speed stable at normal temps.
In the past, I opened my window during the winter to achieve that, but my mom would allways freak out..., that and freezing to death wearing 2 blankets wasn't to much fun.
One more edit:
Now I'm in the mood to get a few silver ingot bar's and get them melted down in a mold for a mem cooler...
Mmm...
That's a darn good idea, I gotta wait a while though for that, need some extra cash.
Thinking of a old school 2x256m ch-5 run :).
NO it's NOT trueQuote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
TEC's can have a COP FAR greater than one, as long as you undervolt them
Thanks alot dude :).
I'm using this tec calculator app now and from what I can tell.
I can get away with cooling say 2 mem sticks down with these cheap tec's if I plan and do it right.
That is, without wasting to much energy.
Using the 5v or 3v rail (better probably to use the 5v to be safe).
2 tec's for 2 sticks, or 8 tec's for 2 sticks.
Not likely to beable to fit that many 40mm tec's and still have room inbetween the sticks to cool them correctly.
Probably the best idea would to use a tec block, 2x tec's, that goes on top of both sticks, attaching the block to both sticks on there custom heatsinks.
Seems like it might be possible to cool them decently, 10-20c, with either the 5v or 3v rail.
And only use from 10-30w's of power, plus a fan(about 5w's or so, 12v at say 0.6a, or less on pwm controller).
The only real issue is the heatsink assembly I think.
Other then that I'm wondering about chipset cooling.
I'm guessing they use about 45w's of power, and can get up to 48c in some configs.
I'll have to do some research and stuff.
Seems like to me that you can cool some things, excluding cpu, gpu.
And not waste a bunch of power doing it.
Past what fans could do alone, fans at best are only gonna get you on the edge of the ambient temp if that.
Tec's on the other hand can get you 10c or 20c lower with the same amount of energy you'de waste on the fan (example, if you run a delta fan full speed trying to super cool mem, it's never gonna happen and you're gonna waste 20 watts+ of energy trying).
I'll have to do alot more research though.
Alot more, to make effective use of these cheapo tec's without wasting a huge amount of power cooling my system.
Hey!!! NEOAethyr!!! I haven't seen you in ages!!Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
I'm in the process of researching and building a new rig. But I've always enjoyed this thread.. Heheh.. And I often return to check the latest post..
Anyway once again I'm considering a TEC option. But I don't think I'll be bothered with the worry of saving energy.. Or small tec's.. I'll buy the biggest-meanest TEC I can find.(Or 2#) And a suitably Big-Mean Meanell psu to go with it. Still theres lotsa' other stuff to consider beyond that. I think cpu only tec/water cooling.. (The 570 can breath air) The chipset may get h2o. The water-block and tec and copper plate are my big concern. Then the water-proofing is the next major issue.(I've never done that before.) The rest of the stuff already I have..(Except the Meanwell) :)
Best to you "Neo"..
"Clay"
Hi Clay, didn't realize you posted in this thread until a min ago, sorry lol.
I'm trying to look up the specs on this 12709 tec I got form ebay a while back.
So far the info I found says:
15.6v @ 9 ampsQuote:
If it is a 12709 (the Qmax of a 12709 is a fair bit less than 100w.) the 127 bit means a 127 couple TEC (127 couples are always 15.6v max.) the 09 is.... ( big drum roll )....the max current rating ... so it is 9amps.
Umax 15.6v
Imax 9amps
I'm guessing around 80w Qmax, not sure though (umax * imax / 2 ???).
These are dirt cheap, you get enough of them in parallel and they will do some stuff without killing the bank.
Just one of these should be enough for a chipset or a set of mem.
I know most use a heavy duty psu, but I've got these old reliable psu's from enermax, a few 300w's and a few 350w ones.
And I've tested the tec on the 5v and 12v, on the 3v the psu shuts down, stock psu.
The cold side gets cold but not frosty when I was messing around.
The hot side just builds up more and more heat, without a load.
I'm gonna play with it again in a few mins though.
If I just had a few aluminum plates or copper plates I could rig up my mem to use it.
I've got this old thermaltake tower 112 cooler that I can't use for anything so I'll use that for the hot side while I wait for it to get frosty, I wanna see ice lol.
Then I know it's good to use for something.
Right now I've got a 90w fan config on my stock cpu cooler (2x delta's).
I got them running at very low voltage though.
I need to figure out something lol.
Edit:
I tried it out on my themaltake tower 112, a full copper cooler.
It sure got that sucker hot.
The cold side was, the best I can explain is burning cold, but not frosty.
Looks like I don't need to worry about ambients and such with it.
The important thing is that the cold side stayed cold the whole time even when the hot side got pretty hot.
Not sure how much of a load it can really sustain though.
I was running it on 12v on an older enermax 350w.
It'll probably work for mem but I'm not sure if it'll work for anything else, unless I get more of them or a better one.
12v @ 9amps is around 108 watts, it would be slightly over then because my 12v isn't 12v.
I guess it would make for a efficient heater but that's not my goal lol.
Customthermo sell 2 12709's one is 40mm square the other 50mm square they both have QMAX OF 77.1W.Quote:
Originally Posted by NEOAethyr
Qmax is the cooling power and bears no relation to the wattge calculated using Ohm's Law because TEC's are semiconductors and therefore non-linesr devices and Linear calcs such as Ohm's Law will not get you the correct answer.
This is rated as a 15.4v 9a unit and at 12v will draw between 6.5-7.5 amps depending on the Dt achieved. In general under normal sort of conditions you are going to get between 20-40w cooling at 12v.
Depending on various things you could have 120w of heat coming off the hotside which needs to be got rid of - a heatsink fan combo should just about do it...dont run the TEC at 12v for too long without any hotside cooling it will have a bit impact on its longetivity and reliability and will ultimatly cause it's early demise.
I usually don't post in this thread... Cause I really don't have anything to show.. (Yet) And it may be awhile. I'll post some details in my noob thread on tec's. No point in double posting everywhere..
This is my RamTecWaterblock
Swiftech MCW60-T with 236 qmax 40x40 lairdtech next to powerfull sctb nord 24128 430 qmax 50x50 tec
My li' Chiller
-6x 12715 TECs 3x3 in series (14aug wiring)+ parallel (12aug wiring)@ power supply
-PSU rating 48V x 50A Max DC adjusted down to 32V DC
-12" total surface area (2"x 6") x 2)
-Dual loop LCS
----Hot side: 800lph pump , 20 fl oz. res. , 10mm ID tubing, into an 240mm Rad salvaged from a Hayden transmission cooler with push/pull "cheapo" 120mm fans (10mm spacers)
( Coolant= Distilled Water + 91% rubbing alcohol (9:1 mixture)
----Cold side: 500lph pump, 20fl oz res., 10mm (3/8") ID automotive grade fuel line tubing, in to a copper water block w/ 1/4" shim. All fully
insulated. (Coolant = Ammonia)
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...-10-50_290.jpg
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Frozen cooling block:
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...-20-44_573.jpg
After 12 hours of gaming with an 8320:
http://i417.photobucket.com/albums/p...psb4bc3349.jpg
Now the goal is to shrink it down to the size of your typical CD/DVD drive. Excluding the rad of course.
Sadly I had to tear down the chiller in order to make room for the new server....which of course I also liquid cooled
'cause I have a "thing" against air for the last several years.