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06-10-2010, 11:06 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

Current Beta testing focus is now on M3N, M4A79T, M4A785, and M3A79T.

Beta BIOS Releases in Validation Testing as of 6/10/2010-
Crosshair IV Formula - Floating HT Ref Clock under Win7/Vista for certain users, Improved LLC settings, eta not yet available
M3A79T Deluxe - Thuban Mulitplier Fix and Improved Performance, still in beta testing as of 6/10
M4A88TD-V EVO USB3 / M4A88TD-M USB3 - Improved Performance, expected release week of 6/8
M3N-HT Deluxe - Improved Thuban Performance, still in beta testing as of 6/10
M4A79T Deluxe - Improved Thuban Performance, still in beta testing as of 6/10
M4A785 - Improved Thuban Performance, still in beta testing as of 6/10
If your board is not on the list, it does not mean we are not looking at improvements, just that we have not reached beta release and validation test process.

Awesome news! Thanx ASUS.
06-10-2010, 11:57 AM
zir_blazer

You know pretty much that I am still agressively pursuing a BIOS for my M4A785TD-V EVO that allows me a broader range of undervolt, so I can boot at very low Voltages that would allow me to safely attempt to run my machine with passive cooling. My AIIX4 620 Deneb RB-C2 is fully stable with CPU 1 GHz @ 0.8V and IMC 1.2 GHz @ 0.9V during extremely long both Load and Idle periods.
I'm using the BIOS 2002 (There was a BIOS 2005 available quite a bit back but the changelog isn't compelling, seems to be released for PIIX6 support) that just allows me to undervolt for a maximum of 0.3V the nominal Voltage of the CPU and IMC, but I need more than that. This would allow me to not need to use k10stat for undervolting under Windows and just boot at the settings that I want to.
I also noticed that while the current BIOS possible undervolt works properly from the supplied Voltage perspective (Motherboard VRM I suppose), it doesn't update the VID value of the Processor, meaning that if I use CoreTemp or k10stat that reads it, they think that it is running at nominal Voltage when it is really running with a -0.3V offset. CPU-Z does recognize supplied voltage quite accurately (Though slighty lower than choosen Voltage or VID, even on nominal conditions). I don't know if other Motherboards BIOSes makes the Processor aware of VID value for properly reading by CoreTemp, but most importantly k10stat.
Anyways, you know that I am looking for news on this. This is my fourth ASUS Motherboard (I only builded one computer for my cousin that didn't had an ASUS), so as a customer I DEMAND SATISFACTION!1!1!1

Thank you.
06-10-2010, 01:31 PM
curlysir

Downloaded and installed 0905. No problem with installation, and just starting to play with settings but still have problem with CPU speed not reducing with C & Q enabled if I raise multiplier above 18.5 for CPU. All other CPU settings are on auto. I have been raising the Turbo setting at +1.5 of the cpu setting but I have also tried turning off Turbo and other settings for Turbo. This appears to be a problem with the CPU multiplier.
06-10-2010, 01:58 PM
JohnMike

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

What does ProbeIT or ROG Connect read? We have new microcode and the third party applications are not reading VCore correctly at this point.

ROG Connect shows same behavior as Everest and CPUz voltage reads.
CPU/NB voltage also changes from 1.3v (Bios) to 1.33v, not so bad as CPU does.
On RC TweakIt panel CPU voltage turns red above 1.5v to 1.58v max.

LLC on @Idle - CPU 1.59v max (Bios: 1.4v)
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1955/llconzoom.jpg

No LLC @Idle
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9863/nollc.jpg

LLC on @Load (pic1)
http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8976/llconload1.jpg

LLC on @Load (pic2)
http://img810.imageshack.us/img810/9484/llconload2.jpg
06-10-2010, 02:59 PM
bingo13

Sorry for the delay, been traveling today. I will setup a system tonight and test 0905 that was released this morning. Unfortunately, I was not able to test this release before I sent it out (bangs head on table for not following personal routine). Any problems with it will be addressed by tomorrow as R&D had an early wake up phone call this morning. ;)
06-10-2010, 03:16 PM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by JohnMike

Run 905 bios here and i'm having big random CPU voltage using Everest and CPUz readings, going from 1.4v (manually set in bios), 1.48v, 1.5v, 1.57v, almost 1.6v @idle :eek:

CPU voltage: 1.4v
CPU/NB Voltage: 1.3v
Others settings on Auto
Both LLC: Enabled
Turbo: Enable
No OC, only NB: 2800mhz

Seems CPU voltage are random occording to Turbo speeds behavior :shrug:

@Load, CPU voltage stays at 1.44v (LinX)

With Turbo enabled the CPU voltage will fluctuate with the change in the cores multipliers. LinX would load all cores so there would be no voltage change because of Turbo. 1.60V is a bit high though with 1.40V set. These voltages really need to be validated with equipment instead opf software.
06-10-2010, 05:36 PM
diddi35

So... no M4A79 (without T) on the list yet? :confused:
06-10-2010, 07:03 PM
crazydiamond

edit: in ref. to crosshair IV formula:

im having problems booting into windows on 0905 at >1900mhz memory c7 or c8 - 0801 i was running superpi 1950+c7 :shrug: can anyone test that when they get a chance? not sure if its something on my end or not

also, bingo13, when using single gpu, pcie1 (top slot) is the only slot that offers x16 link width?
06-10-2010, 07:19 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

So... no M4A79 (without T) on the list yet? :confused:

The M4A79 family is on the list.
06-10-2010, 07:29 PM
bingo13

In order to expedite the replication of any problems with BIOS 0905 on the C4F that have been reported today I will be sending a PM to you for some additional information.

Some additional information based on testing tonight.

1. C1E/CnQ options not available when setting CPU VID to manual without offset. This is actually the way the board should operate and cures some previous problems with the floating CPU/NB voltage and bouncing Core VID after extreme overclocking or a warm reset of the board after a failed overclock.

2. Bouncing voltages on Core 0 with LLC enabled and third party applications. We are still working on this one (offset mode while having LLC enabled will cause a slight/brief voltage swing). However, testing is being expanded tonight based on reported settings so far. I do want to say that using LLC and Offset together results in some weird behaivor patterns based on how each setting works (EE 101), to the point that removing offset is being considered or disabling LLC or Offset if both are enabled.

3. Higher than expected CPU VID or CPU/NB VID on auto settings when overclocking. Checking to see if we can adjust the ramp table based on HT Ref Clock numbers.
06-10-2010, 09:14 PM
Daveburt714

Thanks for the heads up on things Bingo... :up:

As for Bullet point 3, the CPUVid (on auto) is probably about right for air cooling, although it does show a pretty heavy upward swing (even on PCProbe) right after booting.
Once the OS is fully loaded it settles down though.

The CPU-NBVid is more worrysome and goes way too high on auto IMHO, and doesn't settle down!

I haven't done alot of testing yet, but on the plus side it looks like it's clocking the HTRef better which really helps out on the 1055T... ;)

I'll just use manual settings for now even though I lose CnQ and C1E.
I was really only testing "Auto"... In reality I'll probably never use it anyway... :p:

I'll work with it more tonight, but first impressions tell me it's better than 0901 even with the quirks....

Thanks..... Dave
06-11-2010, 12:04 AM
Sunfire

Is there any newer version of RAID Option ROM than 3.0.1540.59?
Sometimes hard drive detection takes a really long time, and rarely it says that my RAID-0 volume is offline.
06-11-2010, 01:11 AM
nex_73

Also noticed that the RAID detection is somewhat slower, also takes really long time after a warm reset (due to a failed overclock, bluescreen etc :( ).
Regarding auto CPU core - i find it convenient to run +4GHz and have CnQ ON to save some power (electricity) when running 24/7 high clock.
For 4.15 to 4.2GHz: 1.475 - 1.525v (CPU core with LLC on) seems to be right (atleast on my cpu) might need one bump higher for 4.2 ?
For 3GHZ NB F: 1.4125 - 1.4625v (CPU/NB with LLC on) seems to be right (again on my cpu atleast) also might need one bump higher ?
And also some way to unlock the 16.5 multiplier for ALL cores when turbo off for the 1055T would be great!
06-11-2010, 09:47 AM
Albertini

no 1T command rate @285 HT ref. clock, but works @ 300

Hi!

I got a rather confusing problem, maybe someone can give me a hint or explain how the following is possible...

Got 2 sticks of gskill ripjaw ddr800-cl8 that flawlessly run timings of 8-8-8-24-1T @ 1666mhz (ref. clock 250, x6 1055 @ 3.5, turbo off).

ddr760@ ht ref. clock ~ 280-299 and Command rate 1T is causing errors in memtest86 within seconds - even with the slowest possible ram timings. only changing 1t to 2t results in no errors again. :confused:
(cpu @ default, ht link and nb around 2000mhz).

well, so far you might say that my memory and/or cpu/mobo aren't capable of running 1t @ that ref. clock but now imagine the following:

ht ref. clock @ 300 and higher ram, cpu and northbridge/ht link speeds and memtest can run with CR 1T for hours without errors.

anybody got any idea how that's possible?
In intel 965p times one might answer it's got to do with nb strap changing but that obviously shouldn't be the case here as the NB ratio can be controlled.

Thanx for reading the above story, I'm thankful for any answer or even question if further details maybe needed.

Best regards,
Albertini
06-11-2010, 11:47 AM
Zeus

Ok, let me be the first to report the 2MHz ht ref clock fluction is a goner with bios 0905! I haven't tested under Windows XP but with Win 7 64 bit the problem seems to be solved. Good job Asus! :up:
06-11-2010, 05:14 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by Albertini

Hi!

I got a rather confusing problem, maybe someone can give me a hint or explain how the following is possible...

Got 2 sticks of gskill ripjaw ddr800-cl8 that flawlessly run timings of 8-8-8-24-1T @ 1666mhz (ref. clock 250, x6 1055 @ 3.5, turbo off).

ddr760@ ht ref. clock ~ 280-299 and Command rate 1T is causing errors in memtest86 within seconds - even with the slowest possible ram timings. only changing 1t to 2t results in no errors again. :confused:
(cpu @ default, ht link and nb around 2000mhz).

well, so far you might say that my memory and/or cpu/mobo aren't capable of running 1t @ that ref. clock but now imagine the following:

ht ref. clock @ 300 and higher ram, cpu and northbridge/ht link speeds and memtest can run with CR 1T for hours without errors.

anybody got any idea how that's possible?
In intel 965p times one might answer it's got to do with nb strap changing but that obviously shouldn't be the case here as the NB ratio can be controlled.

Thanx for reading the above story, I'm thankful for any answer or even question if further details maybe needed.

Best regards,
Albertini

at 285 you are probably at the tightest limit of the MRL for that strap, when you go higher it increases NB thus lossening MRL.
06-11-2010, 07:14 PM
Sentential

Saw the thread; thanks for the support! Couple questions; I just got an M3N-HT so I can finally use this 1090T but half the BIOS options arent working it would appear:

Multipliers = No
Voltage = No
Dividers on certian mhz = Fail
CNQ Continues to function with or without it on
Turbo not functioning

If you have any info Id really appreciate it :P
06-11-2010, 07:31 PM
crazydiamond

Quote:

Originally Posted by chew*

at 285 you are probably at the tightest limit of the MRL for that strap, when you go higher it increases NB thus lossening MRL.

can you dumb this down a bit :p:
06-12-2010, 11:34 AM
Albertini

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazydiamond

can you dumb this down a bit :p:

I second that. :-)
I thought when I change the nb ratio so that the nb stays at 2000mhz timings shouldsn't change!?
06-12-2010, 08:07 PM
mngdew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunfire

Is there any newer version of RAID Option ROM than 3.0.1540.59?
Sometimes hard drive detection takes a really long time, and rarely it says that my RAID-0 volume is offline.

The official bios, 0801, contains 1540.60. So they took a step back on the RAID rom?:shrug:
06-13-2010, 02:07 AM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by mngdew

The official bios, 0801, contains 1540.60. So they took a step back on the RAID rom?:shrug:

No, this is the M4A79 Deluxe board, but hey, thanks, there is a never one!
I hope it contains bugfixes, speedy hard drive detection, and not just for SB850...
06-14-2010, 05:20 AM
mR Yellow

Any update on the M4A79T deluxe beta bios?
06-14-2010, 11:42 PM
Hassie

Crosshair III 1702 bios

Thanks Bingo13 for this initiative!!:clap:
By flashing 1602 I suddenly had 965 C3 running on 800 Mhz...
Instead of going back to older bios wich I read is not very simple, I tried this 1702.
I didnt test everything yet, but all seems OK, and multiplier problem is solved,
and my 4G OCZ black edition runs smoothly on 1600...

Thanx again and Greetz!
06-16-2010, 05:01 AM
diddi35

Is there any reason why the M4A79 Deluxe doesn't have something like LLC?
Or is there any other solution for the vdroop issue this board has?
I've asked ASUS support more then once about it, but they just ignore my question :mad:
06-16-2010, 12:35 PM
GMScribe

After flashing 905 on the Crosshair IV. Most of my random reboots (caused by VGA failing) and failed starts have disappeared. I've had one failed boot-up since and one crashing of my graphics drivers. I'm still completely unable to overclock, even though on my previous Crosshair IV (I sent back due to faulty mem slot) I was able to receive massive overclocks with the same components and no instability. One change I've made is to include an extra two memory sticks, if removing these doesn't help, I'm concerned that the firmware is only covering up poor/out of tolerance hardware on some motherboards, which I've read was the issue for other Asus motherboards on other forums with similar issues that got repaired.
06-16-2010, 03:02 PM
GMScribe

I've confirmed that my issue with failed boot no overclock and maybe VGA driver crash only occurs when I use all 4 memory sticks in my pc. I've ruled out a dodgy stick or slot. The memory is rated at 1.5v and is running at this.

Any suggestions?
06-16-2010, 06:20 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMScribe

I've confirmed that my issue with failed boot no overclock and maybe VGA driver crash only occurs when I use all 4 memory sticks in my pc. I've ruled out a dodgy stick or slot. The memory is rated at 1.5v and is running at this.

Any suggestions?

Have you tried another CPU?
06-16-2010, 06:20 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunfire

Is there any newer version of RAID Option ROM than 3.0.1540.59?
Sometimes hard drive detection takes a really long time, and rarely it says that my RAID-0 volume is offline.

AMD has one under qualification now, which drives are in RAID?
06-16-2010, 06:23 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by mR Yellow

Any update on the M4A79T deluxe beta bios?

I have alpha versions I am testing on the M4A/M3A/M3N boards now. This week is a national holiday in Taiwan so no new releases yet. I will provide my feedback on Sunday night and hopefully we can get some new betas out shortly.
06-16-2010, 11:29 PM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

I have alpha versions I am testing on the M4A/M3A/M3N boards now. This week is a national holiday in Taiwan so no new releases yet. I will provide my feedback on Sunday night and hopefully we can get some new betas out shortly.

Thanx Bingo. Looking forward to testing it out.
06-17-2010, 01:02 AM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

AMD has one under qualification now, which drives are in RAID?

It's good to know. The two Samsung SP2004C are in RAID-0.
Yesterday was the worst.
First boot: RAID offline, the two HD642JJ was ok.
Second Boot: RAID offline, no other HDD detected.
Third boot: RAID SMART error, the two HD642JJ was ok.

At this point I've set back the controller to IDE mode, and checked the SMART status on all four drives. Everything was ok (as I expected).

Fourth boot: RAID ok, one HD642JJ was missing.
Fifth boot: Success!
06-17-2010, 07:51 AM
GMScribe

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

Have you tried another CPU?

I'm afraid I don't have any spare AM3 cpus =( or thermal paste even if I did.
06-17-2010, 09:24 AM
thor2002ro

Thanks for the M4A89GTD-Pro/USB3 beta bios saved the day...
:YIPPIE:

I was stuck with 1456 which destroyed my 1090T @ 4ghz OC not even stock was stable....
With 1503 its all good again same settings as 1301 :up:

really hopping a downgrading method will popup soon , was stuck with 1456 for weeks and it was hell and unstable... :down:
06-17-2010, 02:43 PM
mngdew

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

AMD has one under qualification now, which drives are in RAID?

I wish they would enable the TRIM command to the RAID for SSD.:)
06-17-2010, 02:51 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

I have alpha versions I am testing on the M4A/M3A/M3N boards now. This week is a national holiday in Taiwan so no new releases yet. I will provide my feedback on Sunday night and hopefully we can get some new betas out shortly.

M4A79_deluxe is giving me a wicked headache atm.....you have no clue how many workarounds i am using to stay competitive in a comp atm :ROTF:

On top of it usual quirks ( loses NB all the time since way back when ) it has issues with cpu multis on thuban, issues with ht multis on athlons, and i forget what it had issues with on 965 but i know it had some problem.

over 300 HT is an issue as well, and it hates with a passion gskill pc 9600 1200 c5 ram.

K10 stat no worka. CPU multi still stuck at 4x.

this is with latest "public" beta.
06-17-2010, 03:04 PM
diddi35

@chew*

With latest "public" beta you mean 3603 right?
06-17-2010, 03:14 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

@chew*

With latest "public" beta you mean 3603 right?

nope a public would be a bios listed on site in the mobo bios DL section ;)

3603 would likely be a leaked beta.

Add multithreaded memory performance issues to the list of issues.

3501 bios with a rather large amount of workarounds.

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/old%20sch...0II%202pic.jpg

http://chew.ln2cooling.com/old%20sch...r%20II%202.jpg
06-17-2010, 03:18 PM
diddi35

ok, wasn't sure what you meant with "public".
I have 3603 here.
It seems to solve the Ht >18,5 issue for Deneb CPUs. Not sure if it fixes the Thuban Multi (@ 4x) issue too since I don't have a thuban to check that right now.
I could post it if its ok. Got it from ASUS support 2 days ago

Quote:

3603 would likely be a leaked beta.

Not yet... that's the point: I'm not sure if its ok to "leak" it ^^
06-17-2010, 03:22 PM
chew*

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

ok, wasn't sure what you meant with "public".
I have 3603 here.
It seems to solve the Ht >18,5 issue for Deneb CPUs. Not sure if it fixes the Thuban Multi (@ 4x) issue too since I don't have a thuban to check that right now.
I could post it if its ok. Got it from ASUS support 2 days ago

Not yet... that's the point: I'm not sure if its ok to "leak" it ^^

I'm sure they won't mind if i have it but I will wait till my ASUS contacts send it to me :)
06-17-2010, 05:04 PM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

I have alpha versions I am testing on the M4A/M3A/M3N boards now. This week is a national holiday in Taiwan so no new releases yet. I will provide my feedback on Sunday night and hopefully we can get some new betas out shortly.

Thanks again keep us posted!
06-17-2010, 09:51 PM
jamesrb

If you do want to leak the 3603, I would be glad to test it for the x4 multiplier bug. This bug is really getting old over here.
06-18-2010, 12:15 AM
mR Yellow

Can someone pls email the beta M4A79T Deluxe beta bios. 3107 sucks ass.
06-18-2010, 11:39 PM
ozlacs

Hi,

no beta bios for M4A79 Deluxe?
the latest two release are bugged, with a 965 c3 the cpu frequency remains fixed to the P3 p-state, 800Mhz :(
06-19-2010, 12:03 AM
V-FrIeNd

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

I have alpha versions I am testing on the M4A/M3A/M3N boards now. This week is a national holiday in Taiwan so no new releases yet. I will provide my feedback on Sunday night and hopefully we can get some new betas out shortly.

I use M4A77 :up:
Thanks .
06-19-2010, 01:04 AM
diddi35

M4A79 Deluxe
(Beta) Bios 3603
Download (Offline since 3603 can be found on ASUS FTP now)
06-19-2010, 02:14 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

M4A79 Deluxe
(Beta) Bios 3603
Download

Thanx :D
06-19-2010, 02:18 AM
diddi35

Quote:

Originally Posted by mR Yellow

Thanx :D

But you know that it is for the M4A79, right?
(The AM2+ Version without T) ;)
06-19-2010, 02:24 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

But you know that it is for the M4A79, right?
(The AM2+ Version without T) ;)

Yeah, i just realised that now...got excited for nothing.
Lucky for me i didn't flash. :p:
06-19-2010, 02:45 AM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

M4A79 Deluxe
(Beta) Bios 3603
Download

Thanks! Changelog? :)
06-19-2010, 05:14 AM
diddi35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunfire

Thanks! Changelog? :)

No Changelog, since its a beta i got from support.
All I can tell is that it fixed the multi issue I had with Deneb CPU
06-19-2010, 08:25 AM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

No Changelog, since its a beta i got from support.
All I can tell is that it fixed the multi issue I had with Deneb CPU

Booted three times today with this BIOS (just for testing it) and the HDD recognition was OK.
And again, thanks for sharing this beta! :up:
06-20-2010, 04:24 PM
Dazog

M4A89GTD Pro-USB3
BIOS 1503

Bug: I disabled the on board LAN in the bios, but it doesn't work. It still shows up in windows.
06-21-2010, 01:21 AM
thor2002ro

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dazog

M4A89GTD Pro-USB3
BIOS 1503

Bug: I disabled the on board LAN in the bios, but it doesn't work. It still shows up in windows.

make shure you didn't disable the lan rom.....
06-21-2010, 03:40 AM
mR Yellow

Any progress update on the M4A79T Deluxe?
06-21-2010, 03:53 AM
diddi35

@mR Yellow

Yes, Bios 3205 is available now for your board

M4A79T (AM3) Deluxe:
DOWNLOAD

Changelog:

Quote:

[ 3205 ]
----------------------
1. Fix the default CPU ratio setting may be incorrect when using certain CPU.

And for the M4A79 (AM2+) Deluxe:
Bios 3603 is available now
DOWNLOAD

Changelog:

Quote:

[ 3603 ]
----------------------
1. Fix the default CPU ratio setting may be incorrect when using certain CPU.
06-21-2010, 04:03 AM
mR Yellow

Thanx. I wonder if thats the only thing changed. I hope Voltage settings have been fixed.
06-21-2010, 04:14 AM
diddi35

I guess it really is the only change since the M4A79 and M4A79T seem to have the same "changes".
What kind of voltage issue did you mean anyway?

The M4A79 (AM2+) still has that 0.05V Vdroop under load (ok 0.025 cause the CPU Voltage on idle already is 0.025 below the bios setting).
I wonder if there is any chance that ASUS will fix / optimize this one day.
Never really got an answer yet. ASUS Support ignored it and bingo13 ignored it too :(
06-21-2010, 05:04 AM
civicexcoupeman

Any update for the M3A79-T dlx? After the beta bios that came out earlier this month? Its very buggy and giving me issues.
06-21-2010, 05:19 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

I guess it really is the only change since the M4A79 and M4A79T seem to have the same "changes".
What kind of voltage issue did you mean anyway?

The M4A79 (AM2+) still has that 0.05V Vdroop under load (ok 0.025 cause the CPU Voltage on idle already is 0.025 below the bios setting).
I wonder if there is any chance that ASUS will fix / optimize this one day.
Never really got an answer yet. ASUS Support ignored it and bingo13 ignored it too :(

No, the voltage prob i'm having currently is that the voltage isn't sticking.
Also, if u manually set the multi u get a different voltage to what u have set.

The vdrop i'm guessing is more hardware related.
06-21-2010, 08:22 AM
Dazog

Quote:

Originally Posted by thor2002ro

make shure you didn't disable the lan rom.....

I did disable the lan rom I don't want it on.

I use a Intel PCI-e Nic instead.

Disabling it via this bios IS broken. That's why I reported it??
06-21-2010, 08:43 AM
devguy

Quote:

Originally Posted by mR Yellow

No, the voltage prob i'm having currently is that the voltage isn't sticking.
Also, if u manually set the multi u get a different voltage to what u have set.

The vdrop i'm guessing is more hardware related.

Lemee know how that BIOS goes. I'm going to wait a bit and hopefully hear Bingo13 chime in on it. After 3107, I'm a little fearful of just flashing willy-nilly.
06-21-2010, 10:29 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by devguy

Lemee know how that BIOS goes. I'm going to wait a bit and hopefully hear Bingo13 chime in on it. After 3107, I'm a little fearful of just flashing willy-nilly.

Awesome bios thus far. Running the 1050T at 3.8ghz. I've disabled the Turbo Core and it doesn't lock at 4 Multi. FSB is 270. Will go higher but want to do some real world gaming (BC2) to stress the cores.

Thumbs up from me so far.
06-21-2010, 10:48 AM
Shadowized

same here with the m4a79t bios, been able to hit 4ghz stable on my 1055, also running 4x2GB mem at 1600 with 7-6-6-18-24-1t pretty stable with 2700NB, about 5 hours into prime95.

I actually had to change turbo on, set it to manual and change the multi to what my multi was set to, then turn it off to successfully post though, tried changing voltages and all sorts of things I guess it just didn't clear the settings correctly, no big deal though seems rock stable now with 300FSB :)
06-21-2010, 04:09 PM
exodusprime1337

glad this bios is out for the m4a79t, or at least would be however my 1090t that passed countless hours of prime and countless hours of linx is not stable any longer.. it won't pass one run of linx, like litterally one pass at the exact samme settings, i ran defaults updated bios reset ran defaults again, and then cleared cmos with a batter pull.

started up the computer ran my settings, linx crashes within seconds, exact same settings. Did the usual, turned of turbo, manually set ram timings, all the goods stuff.. any ideas.. i'm working with a 1090t, was stable 1.525 at 4.2Ghz
06-22-2010, 12:30 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by exodusprime1337

glad this bios is out for the m4a79t, or at least would be however my 1090t that passed countless hours of prime and countless hours of linx is not stable any longer.. it won't pass one run of linx, like litterally one pass at the exact samme settings, i ran defaults updated bios reset ran defaults again, and then cleared cmos with a batter pull.

started up the computer ran my settings, linx crashes within seconds, exact same settings. Did the usual, turned of turbo, manually set ram timings, all the goods stuff.. any ideas.. i'm working with a 1090t, was stable 1.525 at 4.2Ghz

Have u disabled TurboCore?
06-22-2010, 06:51 AM
CrimInalA

o man , i am really expecting a big bang concerning the next bios for CHIV . It sure is taking a loong time . my 0801 is running completely stable now , altough i would like to see improvement in the C1E/speedstep and turbo CORE section , since now all 6 cores are running full speed all of the time . Which is boring :)
06-22-2010, 11:01 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

I guess it really is the only change since the M4A79 and M4A79T seem to have the same "changes".
What kind of voltage issue did you mean anyway?

The M4A79 (AM2+) still has that 0.05V Vdroop under load (ok 0.025 cause the CPU Voltage on idle already is 0.025 below the bios setting).
I wonder if there is any chance that ASUS will fix / optimize this one day.
Never really got an answer yet. ASUS Support ignored it and bingo13 ignored it too :(

Who says I have ignored it? :confused:
06-22-2010, 01:21 PM
_Cyber_

hi bingo,

will in the upcoming bios of the M3N-HT deluxe the missing P-State (P3 / 800MHz) be fixed?

Also there seems to be an quite big difference on this board between VID setted by K10stat (for example) and really set to CPU, i.e. I set 1.43V VID and the board makes 1.54V (Asus PC-Probe) aout of it - it seems to raise not linear, as i.e. 1.3V VID are only 1.32V real or 1.35V VID 1.38V real ...
06-22-2010, 03:19 PM
exodusprime1337

binge ain't ignoring anything imho

I gotta say thank you to bingo and the asus team, i practically expected asus to forget the m4/m3/m2 series with the release of the 890 goodies, but i do have a new bios that fixes the pstate and allows me to do some bios oc'ing for once. Only one issue though binge...

The bios is actually not allowing the same oc that i was getting with 3107 using kstat, i've tried all the normal things upping the voltage, turning off turbo core, underclocking and loosening latencies.. still it crashes within seconds.

my findings based on the limited time i had on the 3205 bios is that the northbridge clocks went up about 200Mhz easy, and i haven't tested further, the voltage seems to be taking when i set it.

i can also oc via the fsb with little stability and my memory seems to oc much further than 3107, by about also 200mhz.. timings may have not been taking or what not, but it's working fine now

only thing i'm seeing is the oc not being stable where t was previously stable.. i have the mem in the far outside slots atm and i haven't tried the other slots to try and remove that possibility however i'm gonna give it a try in a sec.
06-22-2010, 07:27 PM
Hawkeye4077

M3N-HT Deluxe ver 3106 Bios download

I have not tried it myself. Still trying to decide if I need to replace my Socket 1366 with and AM2/3 AMD
06-22-2010, 10:19 PM
_Cyber_

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawkeye4077

M3N-HT Deluxe ver 3106 Bios download

thanks! :D
06-22-2010, 10:36 PM
Zeus

Oh, forgot to say, the double reset that was needed after a crash/hang/bsod for the Crosshair IV is gone in bios 0905. Pressing the reset button once now makes the system post again. :) Good work Asus. :up:
06-23-2010, 01:28 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowized

same here with the m4a79t bios, been able to hit 4ghz stable on my 1055, also running 4x2GB mem at 1600 with 7-6-6-18-24-1t pretty stable with 2700NB, about 5 hours into prime95.

I actually had to change turbo on, set it to manual and change the multi to what my multi was set to, then turn it off to successfully post though, tried changing voltages and all sorts of things I guess it just didn't clear the settings correctly, no big deal though seems rock stable now with 300FSB :)

Can u pls post your settings?
I can only get a stable clock at 3.9ghz

Thanx
mRY
06-23-2010, 01:45 AM
Shadowized

Quote:

Originally Posted by mR Yellow

Can u pls post your settings?
I can only get a stable clock at 3.9ghz

you should be able to do 4050mhz easy, 4.2 I dunno depends on your chip.
CPU: 1.42 (differs per batch so play around)
FSB: 300
Multi: 13.5x
NB: 2700 MHz (maybe 3000 if you increase the voltage and only have 4GB memory)
CPU-NB: 1.35 (due to 8GB mem @ 1600, still trying to make it more stable)
HT: 2100 Mhz
HT Voltage: 1.2v

be warned, you're going to be playing with the memory timings a bit to make it run correctly due to the high FSB and the way Asus calculates the values it still thinks the memory is 1066MHz and clings to those type of sub-timings for some reason.

mine for example wouldn't post until I changed the memory TWR to 10, then I put it at 12 when I added another 4GB.

hopefully that helps you a little, I found that after 329 FSB my system would simply go no higher so I think around 320-325 tops on this board, could be different per revision of it but I don't know for sure.
06-23-2010, 02:55 AM
mR Yellow

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadowized

you should be able to do 4050mhz easy, 4.2 I dunno depends on your chip.
CPU: 1.42 (differs per batch so play around)
FSB: 300
Multi: 13.5x
NB: 2700 MHz (maybe 3000 if you increase the voltage and only have 4GB memory)
CPU-NB: 1.35 (due to 8GB mem @ 1600, still trying to make it more stable)
HT: 2100 Mhz
HT Voltage: 1.2v

be warned, you're going to be playing with the memory timings a bit to make it run correctly due to the high FSB and the way Asus calculates the values it still thinks the memory is 1066MHz and clings to those type of sub-timings for some reason.

mine for example wouldn't post until I changed the memory TWR to 10, then I put it at 12 when I added another 4GB.

hopefully that helps you a little, I found that after 329 FSB my system would simply go no higher so I think around 320-325 tops on this board, could be different per revision of it but I don't know for sure.

I'll test these settings tonight. Thanx :up:
06-23-2010, 04:13 AM
pcnazz

Got the heads up from Randy , thank you for bios 905 Bingo !
06-23-2010, 05:55 AM
diddi35

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

Who says I have ignored it? :confused:

me? :p:
Ok maybe i was wrong about it.
When I saw that you'd reply to all other questions that came before or after my post about that issue, but said nothing regarding my post and that voltage issue, it seemed to be like the mails from asus support. They answered every question but gave never a single word about my vdroop / llc question just as if I never said anything about it :(
Sorry if my conclusion was wrong ;)
06-23-2010, 12:01 PM
_Cyber_

a first, fast conclusion of M3N-HT Deluxe 3106:

fixed:
* disabling CnQ does this now on all 6 cores, not only two
* CPU-info in bios shows now 6x 512 L1 cache (not 2x)

not fixed:
* P3 state is still invisible for OS! This is in my opinion a bad bug, System only clocks down to 1600MHz (instead of 800MHz), if the missing P3 state is unlocked with PhenomMSRTweaker TurboCore does not work any more
* Downcore Option in bios only offer disabled and 1 core instead of disabled, 1 core, 2 cores, ... 5 cores
* Difference between setted VID and real Vcore semms a little bit better - here a "translation Map" VID -> Real Vcore:

0.8125V -> 0.8V (including this line and all further lines 1600MHz)
0.8250V -> 0.816V
0.8375V -> 0.832V
0.8500V -> 0.848V
0.8750V -> 0.864V
0.9000V -> 0.896V
0.9500V -> 0.944V
1.0000V -> 0.992V
1.0500V -> 1.056V
1.1000V -> 1.104V
1.1500V -> 1.168V (including this line and all further lines 3200MHz)
1.2000V -> 1.216V
1.2500V -> 1.264V
1.3000V -> 1.328V
1.3500V -> 1.376V (including this line and all further lines 3800MHz)
1.4000V -> 1.440V
1.4250V -> 1.472V
1.4500V -> 1.488V
1.4750V -> 1.520V
1.5000V -> 1.552V
1.5250V -> 1.584V
1.5500V -> 1.616V
http://666kb.com/i/bkc4w3x2w4roxtrz6.jpg

This only occurs under CPU-Load - this values are with running prime Large FFTs in background.
If I stop prime it looks i.e. like this:
1.5500V -> 1.568V
http://666kb.com/i/bkc4x6jaosz9qovky.jpg

in bios I've setted Vcore to Auto. Any hints?

still not implemented:
* TurboCore cannot be disabled in BIOS

as soon as the bios offers the P3-state to OS the bios would be quite OK, the other points are only minor "enhancements" which would be nice but not necessary at this moment. ;)

I've not tested any multiplcator-settings or Referenceclock-settings in bios, the only options which I am setting is the NB speed to x13 (2600MHz) and the HT-Link locked to 2GHz. I only overclock with K10stat and the VID / multiplcatorregisters of the CPU.

anyway, thanks at this moment for the work, keep on! ;)

>>>cyber
06-23-2010, 12:05 PM
Naturecannon

looks like CH4 Beta 0905 made it to ASUS server today! ftp://ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/socke...ir_IV_Formula/

Identical to the one placed here a week ago bingo??
06-23-2010, 06:27 PM
thirdman

thanx for the work on the bios
i'm using M4A89GTD-PRO with 1503bios
CPU: 1055t @ 3.6G (1.3375v with LLC enabled so it up the voltage to 1.356v while load)

by putting win7 into Sleep, after wake up the vcore stuck at 1.4v no matter i turn on/off cnq, e1st or change cpu voltage between manual/offset
i get same result, it always stuck at 1.4v after wake up from Sleep.

hope the next bios will fix this..cheers ^^
06-23-2010, 06:49 PM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by _Cyber_

a first, fast conclusion of M3N-HT Deluxe 3106:
.........................

Here I'll give you mine

Multipliers: Still broken :shrug: also by broken I mean all of them. I tried 12-20x which are the most relevant to me and not one of them worked.
06-23-2010, 09:08 PM
p4spooky

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

Here I'll give you mine

Multipliers: Still broken :shrug: also by broken I mean all of them. I tried 12-20x which are the most relevant to me and not one of them worked.

That's disappointing - glad I did not spend the time to update the bios on my customer's board.

Wonder what "validation testing" means in Asus land :mad::down:

Still waiting on M3A79-T bios to be released (after validation testing ofcourse!)
06-23-2010, 11:01 PM
mR Yellow

I can confirm 4ghz. Just had to up the volts for stability. :D
06-24-2010, 12:12 AM
Leeghoofd

I got a mail concerning the new 0905 CH IV bios ( spamming this in all CH IV related threads )

1.Vcore graph via ROG Connect:

In case a fluctuation of CPU Vcore is observed plz check the following :
- Intel EIST / C1E / C-State / Intel® TurboMode Tech is enabled in BIOS.
- AMD C’n’Q / C1E / TurboCore is enabled in BIOS.
- Load-Line Calibration has not been enabled in BIOS

If any of these is enabled you will encounter Vcore fluctuation...

DDRIII-2000+ support under AMD platform:

Up to 4x DDRIII-2000+ modules can be supported under the AMD models with the 0905 BIOS :
- The use of Thuban processors. (well you still need a good IMC Thuban CPU to achieve this)
- The use of the latest BIOS dating from at least the 22/06/2010 (this counts for M4A89 series and Crosshair IV Formula)
- Ensure you start to load DIMM modules from the black slots if you are not intending to load all four DIMM slots with DRAM.
06-24-2010, 07:19 AM
crazydiamond

i was getting the 2mhz htt fluctuation again last night on chIV using 0905 :/
06-24-2010, 08:01 AM
Leeghoofd

Verify with this tool plz : thg_clock.zip
06-24-2010, 08:10 AM
crazydiamond

i will when i get a chance, hopefully this weekend sometime. was during 32m, bounced from 224-226 entire time, i was going for 1800c6 and mem kept bouncing to 1812mhz - errored out around 10 min.
06-24-2010, 10:51 AM
FlanK3r

i have sometimes fluctuating too, but im still 0707...I do not know under what setings there to fluctuating...Sometimes its OK, sometimes not.
06-24-2010, 11:06 AM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sentential

Here I'll give you mine

Multipliers: Still broken :shrug: also by broken I mean all of them. I tried 12-20x which are the most relevant to me and not one of them worked.

First off, 3106 is not the build we are working with internally. Until I post a new beta I would not consider it to be tested. That said, R&D is back from the long holiday and I am on my way to Taiwan, so we should start seeing new betas shortly.
06-24-2010, 01:19 PM
p4spooky

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

First off, 3106 is not the build we are working with internally. Until I post a new beta I would not consider it to be tested. That said, R&D is back from the long holiday and I am on my way to Taiwan, so we should start seeing new betas shortly.

Good news Bingo. I am going to skip 3106 on M3N-HT and wait for you to post your BETA from Taiwan soon.
06-24-2010, 05:19 PM
Sentential

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

First off, 3106 is not the build we are working with internally. Until I post a new beta I would not consider it to be tested. That said, R&D is back from the long holiday and I am on my way to Taiwan, so we should start seeing new betas shortly.

Im sorry in advanced if it seems I'm busting your chops I'm honest to god not and am trying to help in any way I can. Needless to say there is a damn good reason I trashed my previous MSI board and it had everything to do with the fantastic Asus support I've recieved in the past
06-25-2010, 01:43 AM
GMScribe

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

I got a mail concerning the new 0905 CH IV bios ( spamming this in all CH IV related threads )

1.Vcore graph via ROG Connect:

In case a fluctuation of CPU Vcore is observed plz check the following :
- Intel EIST / C1E / C-State / Intel® TurboMode Tech is enabled in BIOS.
- AMD C’n’Q / C1E / TurboCore is enabled in BIOS.
- Load-Line Calibration has not been enabled in BIOS

If any of these is enabled you will encounter Vcore fluctuation...

DDRIII-2000+ support under AMD platform:

Up to 4x DDRIII-2000+ modules can be supported under the AMD models with the 0905 BIOS :
- The use of Thuban processors. (well you still need a good IMC Thuban CPU to achieve this)
- The use of the latest BIOS dating from at least the 22/06/2010 (this counts for M4A89 series and Crosshair IV Formula)
- Ensure you start to load DIMM modules from the black slots if you are not intending to load all four DIMM slots with DRAM.

I'm also seeing a 2MHz fluctuation in the alternate timer with the tool you posted. Do both the CPU Load-Line AND the CPU/NB Load-Line need to be off?

Many thanks
06-25-2010, 09:41 AM
diddi35

Bios 3603 for the M4A79 Deluxe still has the same issue when C1E enabled:
Freezes under Windows and no Reset / Reboot / Boot without CMOS Reset and NT Power off. Everythings works fine as long as C1E is disabled
06-25-2010, 10:06 AM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

Bios 3603 for the M4A79 Deluxe still has the same issue when C1E enabled:
Freezes under Windows and no Reset / Reboot / Boot without CMOS Reset and NT Power off. Everythings works fine as long as C1E is disabled

It's working fine for me :confused:
There is a C1E patch, maybe you should try it: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=236371
06-25-2010, 10:18 AM
diddi35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunfire

It's working fine for me :confused:

Worked fine for me too until I switched from X2 550 (c2) to X2 555 (c3) booth unlocked to X4. Maybe some kind of issue related to C3 Stepping :confused:
06-25-2010, 12:01 PM
Sunfire

Quote:

Originally Posted by diddi35

Worked fine for me too until I switched from X2 550 (c2) to X2 555 (c3) booth unlocked to X4. Maybe some kind of issue related to C3 Stepping :confused:

Improvements introduced with the C3 revision:

# Hardware C1E implemented: Faster switching of power states means virtually no impact to performance by power management when BIOS support is properly implemented. (From here: Link)

Did you tried to clear your CMOS data and then load setup default (and reboot) before you start tweaking/unlocking/etc?
06-25-2010, 01:13 PM
diddi35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sunfire

Did you tried to clear your CMOS data and then load setup default (and reboot) before you start tweaking/unlocking/etc?

Sure already did after I replaced the 550 with 555 and had to do so a few times whenever C1E caused problems with that CPU (since clear CMOS data is the only option to get it running again after C1E was enabled)
06-25-2010, 10:33 PM
Daveburt714

Hey bingo,

Is there a problem with the impementaion of AHCI on the C4F?

The reason I ask is I had an OCZ Vertex 120 with an older WD Caviar 400Gb (2006 SATAII) drive in AHCI mode.
The WD would freak out sometimes (not always), lots of clicking and wasn't recognized when it finally booted.

I thought maybe the old WD was dying so I bought a new WD(1Tb)6.0 Gb/s drive to replace it.
When I went to copy the files from the old drive to the new one, it would copy for a couple minutes then lock my machine up.... :(
I tried everything, even at stock clocks I had the same lockups!

Switching to IDE mode solved the problem (even OC'd) and I managed to copy all the files flawlessly...

The OCZ SSD was/is still my C: drive, only the data drive changed.

Is this a known problem?
Honestly the performance difference between IDE and AHCI isn't that much, but you know how us XS geeks are.... :rofl:
06-25-2010, 11:57 PM
mngdew

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daveburt714

Hey bingo,

Is there a problem with the impementaion of AHCI on the C4F?

The reason I ask is I had an OCZ Vertex 120 with an older WD Caviar 400Gb (2006 SATAII) drive in AHCI mode.
The WD would freak out sometimes (not always), lots of clicking and wasn't recognized when it finally booted.

I thought maybe the old WD was dying so I bought a new WD(1Tb)6.0 Gb/s drive to replace it.
When I went to copy the files from the old drive to the new one, it would copy for a couple minutes then lock my machine up.... :(
I tried everything, even at stock clocks I had the same lockups!

Switching to IDE mode solved the problem (even OC'd) and I managed to copy all the files flawlessly...

The OCZ SSD was/is still my C: drive, only the data drive changed.

Is this a known problem?
Honestly the performance difference between IDE and AHCI isn't that much, but you know how us XS geeks are.... :rofl:

I have combination of OCZ Vertex 2 in Raid-0 and WD VelociRaptor on my C4F, and I don't have the problem you have. I even had WD Caviar Black before and it didn't show the symptom you are talking about.:shrug:
06-26-2010, 12:37 AM
Daveburt714

Quote:

Originally Posted by mngdew

I have combination of OCZ Vertex 2 in Raid-0 and WD VelociRaptor on my C4F, and I don't have the problem you have. I even had WD Caviar Black before and it didn't show the symptom you are talking about.:shrug:

And your running these in AHCI mode?

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