Nice results thanks for share :)
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Nice results thanks for share :)
Anyone notice that it has play side to side even with the pressure at max? A good amount too, you can twist it side to side quite easily...
Am I just doing something wrong? (installing on 1366 i7)
i dont have a venomous x but i have a hyper 212 + which has a central hold down point which appears to be similar to the venomous x. i asked the same question as you and i was told it was normal because of it using only the central hold down point. you are fine :)Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
me too, my 212+ twists no matter how tight I set the bolts in. (Im really thinking about switching to the venomous x once more positive feedback come in, good to know about these peculiarities before making the jump)Quote:
Originally Posted by phantomferrari
Yup. Like I said previously it does that. I'll try and see if there isn't a simple mod to try and actually increase the pressure when I get back from CES. As I said before ANY mod to this new mount has to be done carefully as I can see it applying enough centralized pressure to possibly cause socket damage. I did notice that the cooler performs well with very little TIM. It also has less "play" when less TIM is used.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
Just a casual observer who watercools and really has no interest for Air Coolers...Quote:
Originally Posted by Elloquin
Why is it that you create this scenarios (illogical might I add) where the Venomous-X comes out on top no matter what? You assume parity between the Venomous-X and NH-D14 when no data has been provided to suggest this to be the case (and as such claim that there is no reason to really compare all of the top coolers because they all perform within a few degrees of each other). Then when pressed by a user, you offer the answer above in the quotation where you claim that the Venomous-X is indeed worth purchasing over the a lapped TRUE because according to you the temps are much better. I find this to be the creation of a subjective win/win scenario for the Venomous-X and in my opinion that is dishonest.
It is my opinion that you're not objective at all in your approach and as such I would recommend that other casual observers ignore the data which you provided unless you can properly explain your actions.
Good Day.
Re: NH-D14 and VX
I have the VX and wish I got the D14 now. I didn't realize the mounting doesn't fully secure it, so you can't use Indigo Xtreme with VX (waiting on official word from Indigo Xtreme but I'm 99% sure this is true). VX gives very good temps, but NH-D14 with Indigo Xtreme TIM can't be beat imo. Then again, the D14 is twice as big.
Sam_oslo in the Intel forum has a W3520 running 24/7 stable at 4.5GHz HT on with his D14.
Wait wut? "I find this to be the creation of a subjective win/win scenario for the Venomous-X and in my opinion that is dishonest." OK so what exactly am I lying about? Then you go on about me not being objective lol. "It is my opinion that you're not objective at all in your approach and as such I would recommend that other casual observers ignore the data which you provided unless you can properly explain your actions." So which is it I am being un objective and a thermalright fanboy or an out right liar. I also find it mildly amusing that "Just a casual observer who watercools and really has no interest for Air Coolers..." chooses this thread to take such a passionate position on air coolers lol. That being said let me see if I can clear the rest up for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElMoIsEviL
"Why is it that you create this scenarios (illogical might I add) where the Venomous-X comes out on top no matter what?"
To the contrary I have never posted anything where I say The X is the best air cooler out there. What I did say was "On the contrary IMHO the X from the reviews I have read of other coolers is indeed better. I have yet to see a test posted with same clocks on the same cpu with similar voltages prove otherwise. It may be true but I haven't seen it." This thread has never been about the comparison of a lapped true and the X. It was up untill that question a discussion about the performance of the X and the noctua and the Mega. First the mega and when that seemed to end it moved on to the d14. Again by people in the community posting their opinions. This thread never intended to turn into a discussion on what was best it was just a post about the coolers availablity and that I had one comming and if anyone wanted a test run on it. I ran what ever was requested and then the comparisons started. Now with the previous quote now taken into context all I said was I have yet to see data otherwise be that in a post or a review. It may be worse than a mega and or a noctua as I said I just don't see the data.
Your doing something wrong i have VX and its mounting system is amazingly secure even without middle pressure valve. Better then Megashadow that i have and old true doesn't even compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
Really? Can you twist it at all?Quote:
Originally Posted by -=DVS=-
I mean mine is definitely secure, but I can still twist it side to side.
Well, the ground work is mostly done. I'll be starting to test air coolers (and entrly level water; Corsair H50, CoolIT) soon.
I plan on having the top contenders to start, and will continually add coolers as time permits.
This is exactly what I have been waiting for...go skinnee go...
I can't i would need a hammer to twist it , that is why i love the mounting system , if you can twist it something must be off. Did you correctly install backplate or whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
I'm using the bolt-thru, and even i cant twist mine at all.
Hey nick how's it working for the amd?
Yeah I believe so! I think my problem is that I had the pressure thing a little bit down already when I mounted the cross bar on. Maybe this interfered with the outside screws mounting onto the frame/backplate, and they could go farther. Very interesting! I'll reseat when I get the time and report back.Quote:
Originally Posted by -=DVS=-
This is really good news! :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Thank you! Looking forward to your results! :up:
TR have made quite a special product: on par with the Megahalems at low rpm and with the Noctua at mid rpm. I for one I'm anxiously awaiting Prolima's response. :)
Forgot to add that I'm definitely looking forward to this; skinnee labs ftw!Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Would this be the cooler to get at the moment for a C2D e6750, coming from stock cooling or should I wait for more results and perhaps get a TRUE or Megahalems??
Doesn't really matter since you are using a Dual Core.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikalCarbine
Stupid answer... :down:Quote:
Originally Posted by lkiller123
MikalCarbine, i would wait for reviews but as i don't think TR would release a top of the line cooler that is worse than their old king, i would think the VX is the way to go. :)
I'll keep it in mind and wait a little :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by nullface
You are not using i7, its just a 65nm DC. The heat output can still be managed by both coolers unless you overclocks the hell out of it. In that case, of course you should buy the newest flagship TR.Quote:
Originally Posted by nullface
Not all coolers that works great on i7 will do the same on 775. The best example is the IFX-14 which shines on 1366 but is not very good on 775. If you don't have any plans of an immediate upgrade I think something like a Mugen2, Coolermaster Z600 are great solutions and might even work fanless on your setup.
I'm in no way looking for a passive setup, how does the Mugen2 perform against the TRUE for 775 dual core?
I've had both and really don't like the Mugen 2. On an AM2+ 940BE setup, it performed worse than a TRUE Rev C. If it's not Rev C you may need to lap it, but I still like TRUE. Also, Mugen 2 is an incredible pain in the ass to install.
If your using the Venomous X on a socket 775 Mother board and experience wonkiness lol read this: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...14#post4206714
I think Thermalright should just include washers in the first place but what are you going to do :rofl: As an aside it did make the mount tighter. I also noticed that the E8600 and the i7 920 both have their own sweet spots as far as the central torque screw. As you tighten it it will hit a spot where it has the best amount of pressure and it will no longer "wiggle" side to side slightly. If you go too far (on the E8600 at least) it will actually loosen up the mount a little and the "wiggle" will come back.
I just got the VEX and its already rocking the charts.....its HUGE and the fan clips SUCK. And even on AMD the mount is rock solid no moving at all, though it is a bit difficult to install.
Actually even with the no central screw mine does wiggle a TINY bit. I've solved this by putting 3 layers of duct tape on the sides of the base where the clamp goes down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elloquin
After that I can apply just a tiny bit of pressure and still have no wiggle, after that it's wiggle city. The problem is, I think max pressure is the best performance for an i7. In my brief testing I think I saw this and poparamiro on a Romanian site said this as well (if google translate is to be trusted that is).
Yup. On the 920 I had the screw maxed all the way down.
Review on AMD
http://www.techreaction.net/2010/01/...n-of-the-king/
^ Link doesn't work... http://www.techreaction.net/2010/01/...n-of-the-king/
This is their overclocked result
http://i50.tinypic.com/nec5u0.jpg
Thanks for fixing that..im following u around after u followed me around from ocnet to here and then back there...;)
Ahahhah, I somehow saw your post on OCN, then saw it here, noticed it was off here, forgot that I saw it on OCN first, thought it wasn't on OCN yet, posted it up to OCN, then realized later I had just reposted...Quote:
Originally Posted by mav2000
:owned: myself, lawls.
Thats one long sentence...
In short it could probably be the best solution for air cooling as of now...but will scale better with higher temps.
I still have some tweaking to do with the bios since it's the first time with the Rampage extreme but The VEX is holding my E8600 w 1.44v at 4.5 GHZ quite nicely. Iknow I know pics or it didn't happen lol. When I can get it stable for more than 40 mins occt I'll throw up some screens.
do you guys know whether TRUE fan bracket is also usable for VEX?
or is there any plan from thermalright to release new bracket for VEX?
http://www.oneclickdiy.com/new/pictures/fanh.jpg
thanks before
I dont think that shroud will work....
its not listed as compatible on the site as well.
Alright guys, ground work is completely done. I'll be testing Air Coolers (including the Venomous-X) starting the first week of Feb.
Sorry to keep OT'ing this thread.
:toast:
Looking forward to your results! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/coo...ooler-review/1
Not at the top of the charts in this review. Somethings not right, Either the other sites are altering the results or bit-tech is making it look worse then it is.
The way they test coolers is a sad joke. Both Noctua and Vex beaten by Fenrir. Yea and I swear a saw a flock of flying pigs by my window.
There is something terribly wrong with that review....
I smell cherry picked fans. They apparently used the sharkoon silent eagle 1000. At 36CFM I could see that being the whole problem with the results, I mean seriously comparing heatsinks one should use the same fan. Based on the results I'd say the Venomous-X probably is the top end, minus botched reviews.
Grudge match between the Venomous X, TRUE and Coolermaster V10 on i7. Check it out...
Link: http://www.techreaction.net/2010/01/...and-v10-on-i7/
Hello pplz :)
I see many reviews of the New King are quite misleading or not done right so here is one quick test taken on my rig with the ambient temp around 24°C and with the stock grease (CF-2).
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/160...mousxoc.th.png
BTW the fan is one Scythe Slipstream 1900 RPM.
Cheers :toast:
It sure does work great for you. :) Maybe you could treat us with a max oc/voltage combination cause 60 at 1.3v is pretty comfortable.
This is a as far as I'm willing to go with Prime :)
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/2...nomousx.th.png
Unfortunately, I'm limited by the known issues for the 1156 socket that are reported even on sub 1.5V Vcore range.
BTW this is the max clock on the this i5 sample:
http://valid.canardpc.com/cache/banner/894456.png
Such a pitty for the BCLK wall :/
Just wait till skinnee is done, we all know who makes the best results for WC stuff so let's see what they bring for AC :welcome::up::up::up:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
That review looks like epic fail. Using a single low speed fan as a basis for comparison.. You really need to use at least 3 different fans to simulate low/med/high speeds imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by bentleya
Well I for one am very happy with my new Venomous-X that arrived last week to finish off my new i7 build. I'm currently running my i7 860 @ 3.8ghz with 8 threads and it idles in the low to mid 30's and hits a peak of about 55'c under full load while using a 1700rpm panaflo L1A 120mm fan. I'm considering upgrading to a slightly faster CPU fan to see how much of a difference it makes.
55C under full load is really low! What's your ambient? Cali temps? If so, nice!
Also, push that puppy harder. With those temps you have a ton of room to go past 4GHz, if the CPU is willing... entice it with some more vcore :)
The venom is surely capable of that, imagine 71C to be the max temp. on Prime 95 with 8 threads @ 1.488V @ 4.4Ghz with a single Delta 120CFM fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by LarsMarkelson
Everytime I put a ZM-F3 in the pull configuration on my Venomous X, it makes a loud hum/buzz noise. At first I thought my ZM-F3 was faulty but that's not the case as it works fine as a push fan. I even tried another ZM-F3 in pull and the same problem occurred. It happens when on both sides, and I have the anti-vibration strips installed too.
I also tried putting a layer of velcro on the 4 corners of the fan and then installing it... still gives the noise despite the extra room! It's extremely odd.
Has anyone else experienced this? I've successfully used an Thermalright X-Silent fan in pull position without any problems so it's possibly just a ZM-F3 problem.
Some fans might develop a defect over time depending on the position you're using them. There are many reports about fans failing after a few months when used horizontally.