if AMD chips were pwning intel, they would cost 1000$ too. it really never matters on how good something is, its just on how good it is compared to the competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
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if AMD chips were pwning intel, they would cost 1000$ too. it really never matters on how good something is, its just on how good it is compared to the competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeepBeep2
4.2GHz 24/7 on a Phenom II would require what.. 1.5v and a GOOD heatsink? Just because the IHS had the number 42 on it doesn't signify 4.2GHz. I suspect it is part #42 of the TWKR line. If stock is 4.2GHz then I'd be shocked/surprised/jealous.
Agreed. Everyone seems to forget the FX55/57/60/62.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
back when amd chips were pwning intel, intel EE's still cost ~$1,000Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
only because people would still buy them like they were going out of style so why not? :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
true that. As for Intel, they can ALWAYS set $1000 price because they have overwhelming majority of market and dump trucks of cash.. they can price however they want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
And lets put the insanely stupid 4.2Ghz to rest once and for all:
Intel has a LOT of headroom, especially on E8xxx Wolfdale, hence no E8700 on market. With Intel 45nm Core2Duo, 4Ghz is possible without voltage increase. And their default voltage is very small ~1.2V.
Different story with 45nm Phenom II. They already use ridiculous desperate 1.35V stock - HIGHER than some 65nm Phenom - just to reach 3Ghz.
EDIT: this means Intel 45nm better than AMD 45nm.
DONT YOU THINK IF AMD COULD HAVE RELEASED 4.2Ghz, THEY WOULD HAVE HIGHER CLOCK PARTS ON THE MARKET??
As for the markings on the chip:
1. Its Maingear.. have you bought anything from them? Its small company desperate for attention.
2. Easy to sand down and put your own markings.
3. Easier still to photoshop.
4. Heck maybe even AMD does this for them. Maybe they can put "super duper ultra fast" for you to make you happy, so you will pay $999... but its still just a Phenom II - get over it.
binned for cold?Quote:
Originally Posted by chew*
shaaaweeeeeeet! :D
if this is actually the propper bin1 that amd pulls to send it off to ocers and press and using it on wr attempts with liquid helium, then that would be a great move! :)
and if thats the case, i hope intel follows!
as soon as its possible to buy bin1, even if its very expensive, all this handpicking is sortof ok imo... well thats at least my opinion...
If they are going to be putting out special editions, wouldn't be surprised if they number them VW does.
totally different manufacturing processes and material... AMD is still SOI which will always require higher voltages, Intel is HKMG and way lower voltages.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
and 1.35v for stock AMD is not ridiculous or desperate, especially since a quad can go from 3.0 (or 3.2) up to 3.6 or so without a voltage increase on all four cores. i'd say that's very nice.
Come on. What does voltage say about powerconsumption/heat? Phenom II x4 955BE are using desperate 1.375v ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
HKMG vs. SOI, your comparing apples and oranges.
What a gross misunderstanding of the different process technologies. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
:rofl::rofl::rofl: :ROTF::ROTF::ROTF::ROTF: :rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
so thats why AMD PHII TDP is so much lower than intel's both stock and OCed right?? :shakes:
Man did i read this thread at the wrong time....Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
Different story with 45nm Phenom II,,
AMD fits two IMC's DDR2/DDR3 in the same chip at a resonable TDP. Also Considering the Northbridge Freqency also inside the CPU can be Clocked to 2800mhz/3000mhz and generates its own heat besides the x4cores heat.
Whats real cool is @ 4gigs and HIGH VOLTAGE the Phenom IICPU stays relativly COOLER than the InHel inSide Chips ,, even though Intels have UBER Low VOltage @ the Same Clocks:ROTF:
If Intel put half a IMC in thier CPU's theyd Explode@ Idle.
AMD TWKR is just that ,, Something to Overclock.
Intel i7 is something to cook with, like a Foreman Grill just Fries faster.
but diferent story is SOI and HighK;)...not comparsion for Vcore this 2 diferent technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by ***Deimos***
edit:some info about new chipset 890FX? :-)
And that's a huge negative. Show me a PH II priming at 85c. You have a very low thermal wall and you think that's a positive? :down: I've primed C2Q at over 4.2Ghz well past 85c and it still run smooth as butter. That is definitely a superior process if you count:Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
1. Higher tolerance for heat
2. superior ipc
3. Far superior overclocking overhead with mainstream cooling
Edit: What does it say about PH IIs TDP when the chip only actually shines with extreme cold? I think there's some deception going on, may be more heat than the sensors are reporting as we know, Intel's thermal sensors are sitting right on top of the cores, AMD's have been moved away from the cores. WHY? :stick:
Aint they renamed to 700 series now? The IGP part is 785G now.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=18665
http://my.ocworkbench.com/bbs/attach...1&d=1243395862
Isn't that just the replacement for the 780G? There should be something to replace the 790's, as well, shouldn't there?Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
They renamed this IGP to 785G because they probably want the 880G to be the first DX11 IGP.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Uh huh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Also, I'm sure you primed that at 85 for days and weeks on end right? And it was 'smooth as butter'?
These metaphors make me sick.
Theres no way that this could be 4.2 ghz stock.
I haven't seen a 4.2 ghz phenom yet on air. The amount of binning to get such a golden chip would be incredible and thus not worth it. They would need to sell these at a incredible price and unless your making it to 5.0 ghz, its simply not worth it since even a 4.0 ghz core i7 can match such a speed for performance.
geez, how did this end up as an amd vs intel party again?
so what does TWKR actually mean?
and isnt that going a bit too far? i mean the product name is:
AMD PhenomII 9XX TWKR Black Edition and the "short" name is [9xxTWKRBE] ? thats not short! :P but how would you diferentiate it from a normal BE?
I miss the days when it was AMD AthlonXP xxxx
or AMD Athlon64 FX-XX
intel core i7 965... there, short and easy...
and the short version: i7 965 or 965...
:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I still hate Phenom for the name.
Thats only the case with 780G -> 785G. AMD couldn't make the HD4000 IGP due to thermal issues as the minimum would be 80 shaders for that architecture. So instead they clocked the current chip abit and gave it a similar name.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
The "800" series should come this fall.
i worked at amd and heard the name before the launch and told all people at markom that had anything remotely to do with the processor naming thats its terrible and they should NOT use it... same for the logo... a comet? uhm a comet is a falling star, a star, something great and admired falling down, crashing and burning in flames and then exploding... hello? and thats what you markom people consider a good logo for a processor?Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
in the end it was the perfect logo for K10 cause K10 was amd falling down, crashing and burning and the cpus themselves were scorching hot :lol:
everything amd has done markom wise in the past years has been cr4p... phenom, the processor naming mess with numbers and letters, copying intels i7 processor naming, spending millions on advertising of their power efficiency just weeks before intel launched c2d which was way more power efficient, marketing their platforms aka dragon and spider which only got a shrug out of most people, if they even remembered it... fusion this fusion that, but besides some marketing slides and theory talk that was all... avivo this avivo that, but actually its 4 year old tech and it sucks... stream here and there, but whats it actually being used for besides f@h which is several years old too...
well at least they focussed on their hardware and while i dont think they go their cpu stuff done right yet, they certainly got their gpu stuff dont right.
i still dont get why they dont make their cpus wider like intel did with the core duo to core2duo move... it a mystery to me... :shrug:
what was it, 3 to 4 issue or 4 to 5 issue? anyhow, sure the boost isnt big, but geez, they are up to 25% behind on ipc and intel wont get worse ipc over time, and all they did so far was just add cache and rework the cache and imc system...
adding cache... thats the most unefficient way of boosting performance afaik... amd used to TRASH intel for adding more and more cache and trying to only scale through higher clocks back in the days... and now? intel is all about efficiency, smart cpu managment, high ipc, high perf per watt... and amd is using old cores and just keeps bolting more and more cache to them and trying to clock them higher and higher... its almost like switched worlds...
it was clear that intel would change their design approach, they had to... but instead of staying ahead or going even further amd did the incredible and dropped their superior design approach and target and used that of intel :eek:
i really hope in some years when we are all old and grey somebody will write a book about what happened inside of amd when hector ruiz took over... the more i think of it the more it looks like he did the best he could to ruin the company, and even now as we speak hes trying to get amd down by throwing stones in their wheels at the global foundry...
there has been no ipc improvement in their cores (except for the tiny bumps caused by more cache etc) since the original athlon64 from over 5 years ago... :stick:
They obviously refined the process for extreme cold OCing. Hense why it does so much better then Intel's at extreme cold. I highly doubt my chip is running higher then the temp reads on my 940. everything is cold (that is actually cold) to touch, board below chip, heatsink, etc. they are totally to different processes. get over it everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
3 vs 4 issue wide is extremely little difference. And the key problem is x86/x64. Other CPU archs easily scale to 10 issue wide. So for AMD staying at 3 issue wide is not an issue by itself. Specially not without HT. I would say that the 4 issue part in Core 2 is less than 5% used. For i7 with HT on its higher but still...Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
i dont think amd or intel designed their process'es to run well on either low or high temps... and amd chips can run high temps, they just dont clock as well when running hot.
thats actually a hint towards the properties of the process and the cpu design... if a chip doesnt clock well when it runs hot on air, the chip is limited by heat and will most likely clock well under cold.
intels chips clock well on air, even at very high temps, so heat is not really limiting them or holding them back a lot, which also explains why they dont gain much when going subzero...
i think in the end this has a lot to do with processor design as well and not just manufacturing process... but anyhow, what does this have to do with this new phenom extreme edition chip? who cares how they build it as long as it clocks well :D
i dont think its just 5%... they did quite a jump in performance when they widened it up... 5% average performance maybe, but in some cases its 15% at least i think...Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
and lets even say its only 5%... well how many extra transistors do you need? look at core duo and core 2 duo, the diference is minimal, and you get a 5% boost... for the same boost from cache you have to increase the die size by probably at least 25%... at least... and to get a 5% perf boost by clockpeed you have to increase the clocks from 3ghz to at least 3150mhz... a whopping 150-200mhz extra...
and its not like they have to redesign the entire logic, we are talking about quadcores here, so you rework one core and just copy it 4 times... and its not a complete rework, you just add an execution unit like the ones you already have, and then you just need to tweak the decoder and some other logic a little bit... i mean geez, wth... we are talking about the second largest chip maker here with dozens of chip engineers and all they did for the past years is copy and paste almost exactly the same design and just add some extra logic here and there... how amd could ever come up with a64 from athlonxp with this way of designing their chips is beyond amazing actually... :P
come on amd! get the whip out on your engineers and let them do some actual work and not just maintentance and process node shrinking! :D
Just FYI ,a comet is not a star and therefore not a falling star :).Look it up.You were probably thinking of a meteor(which is also not a star) or commonly known as a shooting star(logo is a comet and not a meteor).Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
as chew* and sampsa have already said this chip does exist and it is only a quad core other than that it will retail a good bit above the 955 currently out the 42 does not stand for 4.2ghz it stands for 42 like the 42nd chip.
there will be some of these samples out shortly to a select group of people.
Shoot me a message if I can apply for an entry level marketing job at AMD cause I've been bashing my head with their naming scheme since the XP lineup. XP came out so snag that, then it seemed like Gillete was going hardcore marketing with Phenoms so AMD went with that. It's driving me nuts, but I agree I can't wait to hop back to AMD finally getting it together again. I'm GLAD the last CEO got the boot. All my hardware is AMD/ATI except this one rig and it's felt really weird having it and I am not even going to upgrade it I'm just going to hop back to AMD. But the name putting a "phenom" in my rig urghhhh curdling name.. :bsod:Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I hope someone can post some result here a few day later! :up:
"42" is a secret number, I think it's a 42th number :D
just pointing out that a comet is a large body of ice and (possibly) rock that orbits a star once every so many years. take Halley's comet for example, comes around once every 75-76 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
i believe you're thinking of meteor's, as in meteor showers. chunks of space debris that fall to earth and burn up in the sky.
*edit* lol, informal beat me to it while i was out looking at my broken into car... god damned theives :mad:
Haha sorry man,I was lucky you were busy :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by eRazorzEDGE
How can you claim the performance is due to being 4 issue wide and not anything else? In the majority of code you barely use 2. Remember all the Hyperthreading block diagrams? Sometimes there is even only 1 (or 0) execution unit in action.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
http://tbp.berkeley.edu/~jdonald/res...ing_image1.gif
I would say most of core 2s performance over core comes via single cycle SSE and memory disambiguation plus improved prefecthers. And you can see how close Phenom 2 is to Core 2 in 3 vs 4 issue wide. However when AMD one day puts in hyperthreading I am sure they will change to 4 issue wide.
I like it, when I hear Phenom I think of this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
http://j.photos.cx/prince-fa8.gif
i know, but thats just arguing over small details...Quote:
Originally Posted by informal
lava is called magma before it comes to the surface, then its called lava...
meteorites or are called comets or asteroids before they enter the atmosphere...
the thing is, most people call it falling star, and thats a beautiful image, but NOT what you want people to relate to your product... a rock burning and crashing down in the sky :P
no idea... amd is using interns to do cheap and basic work, like most big companies these days, you might get a position that way, though i doubt it... amd tend to do marketing externally afaik... smart thing really, cause in my experience markom people are the most likely employees to spend 90% of their day on facebook myspace and msn, if you pay them on a per project basis though, they NEED to keep moving :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Glow9
sure, there are exceptions to this... but ive seen this happen quite often...
shintai, well i dont know that much about cpu architecture at all... but what i do know is that amd barely improved their cores ipc, if at all, over several years, which is just not acceptable... yes they are "fast enough" for almost everything in daily computing, but the market obviously doesnt think the processors are fast enough, otherwise they would have a bigger share than 20% and you can find almost 0 highend pc with an amd cpu inside.
and its contradicting with their other strategies... if they really want to build a fast enough processor and dont even try to get their ipc up, why do they focus on quadcore cpus then? native quadcores even? cause even as of today most cpus sold are dualcores, and those really are FAST ENOUGH for most faily computing tasks...
and they obviously spent some time on deneb to tweak the inter core performance of their quadcores, which is nice, but i cant help but wonder, why you would spend such an effort on getting several underperforming parts to work well together instead of going for a fast redesigned part and just bolt several of those together without much hassle. which is btw what intel has been doing for quite a while, and quite succesfully i might add...
it still strikes me as ironic that intel came up with 2 cores glued together and not amd... cause its an ingenious economic solution in the original amd style... you can create 2 products ranges with one chip, and cover two segments with one original product... and if amd would have been smart they could have had quadcores (2 dualcore dies) at almost the same time they launched their dualcore athlonx2 in 2005, over 1 year before intel launched the core2 quad... sigh...
I don't see why you should rip AMD marketing for a rare moment of honesty. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
bulldozer is cool name.. it is for to clean the rest of falling phenom haha
Well Sledgehammer/Hammer was also a cool name and they were great chips, let's hope that tradition continues.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tomasis
Is there any information (link) about how they clock on high temps?Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
It could be that they have set the temp limit low because they want a margin to avoid people break CPU's by overheating them.
AMD has set a recommendation on max 1.5v for CPU/NB/HT voltages for overclocking, and a hardlimit at 62C - exceeding this often results in instability...Quote:
Originally Posted by gosh
I have no link but these are words coming directly from AMD.
AMD's lack of coldbug was a fluke. They didn't design for it, they simply realized during testing prior to launch.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Phenom II 940BE works fine @ 76c with 1.5v... i have tested higher temps without any harm and instabilty...anyone know what temp the cpu self trottel becuse of high temp?.. i have also done that one time...forget to plug in the fan :), something was wrong when i runed 3dmark2006 low fps...hmm what is it and i open cpu-z hmm low mhz why?..hmmm something smells hot "ops the fan :)"
Intel works great at high temp...but who say that Amd dont do that also?.... but we dont need to have high temps becuse Phenom II dont geting hot like Core i7.
Main problem is weak pwc on the Amd boards.... they geting very hot,thats why its hard to test stabilty with high temp. My Dfi 790FXB did melt down something under the pwc area(under the board).
Quoted from a page of this post...Quote:
4ghz on stock voltage would be sweet (64bit)
i need 1.58v to get 4ghz semi-stable under 64bit
I think that ,this it's what Amd want's to improve
Not cold bug, not tolerance to high voltages.
I think that this "Tweker" will have a better scalability in overclocking with less volts , I mean it's a shame 1.58v for 4ghz:D
May be it's a new revizion improve like the notorius "E0" on Intel..
May be this will do 4.4-4.5ghz on 1.5v max... to equal Q9550/Q9650...
I bet that it will have 3.33ghz like I7 975, i mean it will be the top of Amd, so why shouldn't be equal at least in frecuency.... 3.4,3.5 seems like Prescott era .....
AFAIK the 62C figure is actually Tcase max not the actual core temps.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
Sorry Tcase?Quote:
Originally Posted by AKM
Afaik Phenom II has only 1 single tempsensor in the middle of the core, and not 1 separate per core, but maybe thats what you meent?
if you clock i7 is the L3 cache also clocked?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lastviking
If I remember right then the L3 on i7 runs at the same clock as the cpu.
On Phenom the L3 cache runs on it's own clock
just FYI voltages are different on AMD than intel what seems high on intel isn't high on AMDQuote:
Originally Posted by xdan
I know the voltage story Intel vs Amd ..blah...Quote:
just FYI voltages are different on AMD than intel what seems high on intel isn't high on AMD
You didn't understood what i meant..
I meant to say that this "Tweaker" may have a better scalability frecuency vs voltage..
I mean a 940BE/955BE can do 3.6-37ghz stock voltages, and for 300-400Mhz for 4ghz you need to bump them 0.18-0.22v(from 1.35v stock for example)..
Wouldn't be great to have a cpu to do 3.6GHZ 1.35v, 4GHZ 1.4v, 4.2GHZ 1.45, and 4.5ghz 1.5v?;)
And as a note the previous 65nm generation from Intel had up to 1.5v tehnic specification like Amd .
So current 45nm AMD= 65nm on Intel alt least at voltages..
But even that it had some magic(one i saw in this forum) Q6600 with 1.15 vid. These Denebs are to damn linear(1.3v,1.35, 1.37) not one "magic" low vid. But at least i can say that AMD use a better manufacturing technology SOI, because all Phenom II 940/955 overclock almost the same, i mean at least Intel technology process skip some low vid chips in every category from Pentium Dual core to I7:D
Quote:
Originally Posted by xdan
my 955BE albiet a special one from AMD did 4ghz @1.4v stable on DICE but 4.5ghz took 1.55v to get bench stable on DICE. it still depends on the chip and honestle volts don't matter to me my old 945BE ES chip did 4ghz air stable@1.6v and 4.9ghz benchable on DICE with 1.7v
Naa its not what he mean...Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartidiot89
If you look on the CoreTemp screen here.. you can see Tj Max/TCase that is what he mean.
Naa it much like Amd if i dont have wrong.. you can see diffrent NB/IMC and cpu clocks on screen down here... NB/IMC on Phenom II likes same voltage like the vcore..i use abit less.. 1.4v @ 2600mhz NB/IMC 24/7 , with LN2 1.6v+ is not a problem for the NB/IMC and 4000mhz+Quote:
Originally Posted by Gosh
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2624/4150mhzok.jpg
Sry for Intel screen :) , and sry for borrow "PcCI2iminal"
...some next new info about this chip?
I now can't say much but you'll be seeing these chips pop up in the next month or so all across the globe. I may or may not receive silicon depending on what my editor decides but if I do I'll get as much info for us as possible. This is a real chip and I imagine the Finnish/Norwegian/Viking guys have a tray of them :yepp:
mmmmmm trays of cherry picked CPU's :slobber: I may have to go to chew's place and kill my 955 on ln2 sooner than I expected, that way I can pick one of these up :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
If these are going to released to only top overclockers. This is extremely dirty of AMD marketing department. I have seen in other forums, where people see 7 ghz in a new headline and expect 5 ghz on water going to be easy when 4 ghz is going to be a battle. Phenom II overclocking ability under conventional means compared to extreme cooling is so deceptive that the marketing team can work miracles.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
I see AMD overclocking 6xxx mhz headlines alot more than intels, and yet they reflect nothing of reality to the average consumer. Atleast Dr Who chips are somewhat close to reality and show a core i7 reaching 5.0ghz on air, which is actually somewhat the case because core i7 do overclock well on air(well in terms of percent increase over stock). Most phenom II black I have seen go to 3.8 ghz, thats a .6 to .8 ghz overclock. Not bad, but thats only 20%-26%. But nothing that reflects the liquid helium results of 6.6ghz or 120%. Compare this with core i7 965 which hits 4.3 ghz on air and 5.3 ghz on extreme cooling, its not nearly as deceptive.
Heck if these do get released to the public, unless the person is cooling with phase, what's a high leakage chip going to get them, extra speed? No. More heat? yes. To the average comsumer if these are the same model's being given to extreme overclockers, these will be Phenom II x4 Red edition meaning extra hot.
But people will forgive them for these marketing tactics because they are AMD and they are the underdog. This isn't about Intel vs AMD, this is about deceptiving marketing of selling something to the consumer that they are not really getting.
http://www.boxofapples.com/fruit_cra...ry_yams_00.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
You do marketing of what you have, Amd has chips that clock well on low temps --> they market that as a good thing, they never say you are going to get 5ghz on air. Don't like it.. try a 6ghz run çwith I7 and promote that MMkkayy ?
Talking about marketing... P4 ...
send me one too.Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
But people make the same complaints about nvidia marketing department.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnJohn
Do you think the (people who don't use ln2)public cares about low temp overclocking. No, not at all. They however translate results like the above thinking ln2 overclocking translate to better overclocking using normal methods. This is generally the case so this is justified. However Phenom II shatters this.
The ln2 market is so small(and thus unprofitable) and tech savvy, i doubt they are advertising like this purely to get more ln2 people on board. This is definitely for the general public.
LN2 results are general publicity. Like all other over-the-top publicity events they are aimed at generating buzz about the product. If people are talking about your product due to something awesome that happened with it, they are thinking about your product. These benchmarks probably won't generate a direct "I want to buy this to overclock" sale, but they will get people thinking about the chips and encourage people to exercise all three options (PHII, C2Q, Ci7) rather than just focusing on Intel products.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Dont forgot the Swedish Vikings to ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
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Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
Is possible any review as Bjorn3D, insideHW etc? Im interrest too for AIR limit, not only LN2 and LHe. Maybe this chip will be some as old FX? High price, good extreme OC limit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lastviking
There will be air results. Now all review sites use ln2 regularly. I know legitreviews will have air, dice, and ln2.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
It's been a few days, has anyone seen any reviews on this chip yet?
I would not go as far to say that, from what i was told in boston by a reliable source an engineer discovered the cause of the coldbug.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] gomeler
As with all things diagnosis is winning half the battle......once you determine the root of an issue you can then set forth to correct it.
I heard some small about preview at next monday 22.6....
Now it’s Monday in Denmark, and I can’t wait for them to post some results for the TWKR.
Actually I’m waiting for AMD to ship me my own TWKR (or at least that’s what I guess I won)
(First post)
I guess AMD couldn't afford to "buy a vowel":p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
a finally a chip that is the ensure to the question! Now we just have to find out what the question is..?
link to source blog
he states he is working on building his test bed for the chip on the 17th last week.. i would say: show me the money!
if that wannabe has a TWKR chip, im a monkeys uncle. hes waiting on other reviews to grab the details from there. doesnt even use his own photo shots?Quote:
Originally Posted by lookmomnobrains
would be the first thing i done, with watermarked website details
Um...he's the Maingear CEO. Maingear is where the photos first originated from? Sooo...I'm guessing he's legit. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by soundood
lol thats greatQuote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Fail:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Wallace Santos
so theres a bios that can detect this thing, but its not coming out?
teasing assQuote:
Originally Posted by FlanK3r
i think coming, but in limited series, we must waiting few days :( ....
I think it's coming out alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manicdan
If you guys were planning on seeing this at newegg, I wouldn't hold your breath. These chips are the cream of the crop and VERY limited in supply. Your best bet in getting one is to show AMD how good of a tweaker you are.
So this means, i have to spend gazillion on new hw, break few WR's and then i might get permission to buy one? Or i will have to tweak my setup, squeez every mhz out of it, and then tweak os to get some nice numbers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by EnJoY
Or is this just a PR trick and they ship twkr Cpu's to enthustiast OC legends?
Don't know yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeZzZu
I think these are a PR move by AMD to drum up some positive press. Sounds like there are very few of these chips, so even spending a gaizillion $$ on new hardware won't purchase one.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeZzZu
just give me half of this cpu and that will fulfill my needs. oh, and half of a 4890. ok thanx :p
Oh come on, haven't we waited long enough for the results of this CPU already? Out with it already.
nothing... it sux
How about Intel release a 6-core Pentium 4 on 32nm process with 12 threads, called "TITWKR" (This Is The W-a-n-K-e-R) edition? And it can clock to 10GHz at sub-zero temps while consuming over 300W?
Still it's performance will be sucky.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
And many people will buy it.:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ubuntu83
because of intel written allover it.Quote:
Originally Posted by N19h7m4r3
Oh ma gawds like! 10Jigawatts 6core Intel CPU!!!
I needs it for playing the SIMS!
I was told that the CPU wasn't for sale, but they could have changed their minds later....
Bring it on! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bo_Fox
Sounds about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheGreenFoX
From one of our readers:
http://www.aijaa.com/img/b/00362/4409320.jpg
Reverse effect in Photoshop or fake.. who knows :shrug:
We will see more details 30th of June :)
What do u mean claiming? Its 2009, June, do u not seen AMD CPUs about 6500-6900MHz with LN2/LHe? U must only more to read.Quote:
Originally Posted by LOE
This post, if it real, is with watercooling, not LN2 and up 5GHz is great! Santos wrote about watercooling block.
5.3 is possible, but why would they make that std. frekvens so high that its impossible to use with non-xtreme cooling?
3.4 or 3.5 is closer i guess
Eh... I honestly find this pretty cool, assuming it does actually come out.
Maybe I just like the idea of companies hand picking better silicon for their consumers that want to pay a little (or in this case, probably a lot) more.
I know it's obviously done with processors, which is how higher tiers are created, but to specially cater to enthusiasts is just neat, in my opinion.
This reminds me of those video cards... What was it, the 2900XTs or something? The special editions, came with a lifetime warranty, a briefcase box to keep them in... Ah, I can't remember for the life of me. It was a very limited edition of ATI cards.