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Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Thanks man. Much appreciated.:)
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Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Thanks man. Much appreciated.:)
Hmmm....im a jerk lol. Think my a** should of gotten 1333 or lower ram instead of 1600mhz. Would explain my oc issues with the ram. Duh. smh. Still would appreciate those settings when U get a chance, Bench. Thanks again.
@Trembledust:
The settings are posted here ;)
Thanks. I'll try out the settings in a bit, and get back to you.
Sascha, it looks like the CAS Latency setting in the G13 BIOS is bugged and doesn't set the value right, at least at 5T.
I will try the rest later on more than likely.
It looks like it's setting the tCL to 6 instead of 5.
Here's a screenshot:
http://i43.tinypic.com/286v1ox.jpg
I did some further testing:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
tCL = 5 in BIOS results in tCL 6
tCL = 6 in BIOS results in tCL 6 [ I have an idea, I'll check if going from 5 to 6 triggers the normal Save & Exit -> Shutdown -> Power On (POST) sequence as it should if it was actually changing the tCL setting ]
tCL = 7 in BIOS results in tCL 7
tCL = 8 in BIOS results in tCL 8
tCL = 9 ? Didn't test it, that's too slow for me :p: ( gonna try it tomorrow )
Does anyone else have a problem with G15 BIOS and cold boot? I'm unable to boot after shut down without additional restart (somehow it reminds on booting of P35 boards). I didn't experience this problem with P03 or G13.
I haven't but I am using G13 because it is more stable in my opinion than G15 and G16.
You're probably getting that because of the Vtt bug or the Mem / UnCore multipliers issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnisDonKing
Like I said before, ditch G15, and get back to G13 for now and wait for G17 or a newer BIOS without the Vtt bug and the rest.
Got an ETA on newer bios? I have a decent chip (3841Axxx) and good mem waiting on a good I/O sys. to compliment.
I don't have a specific date at the moment, but I'm almost 100% sure that we'll see a new BIOS release this week/end.
Still no go with a successful over clock with the settings you gave me. Check the below link.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...oodrage&page=3
Where is a new Bios ? :(Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I don't have any BIOS newer than G16 yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by jooney
Might have one tomorrow ( that depends on my contact in Foxconn, I'm not working there you know )
I'm not sure if I'm doing somthing wrong, its a real issue, or if it hasn't been mentioned. I can't seem to boot to my SATA drive, regardless of if its on jmicron or intel southbridge. I had to use PATA to install windows. I also have two seperate RAID 0 on the south bridge.
I don't mind testing:up:. Let's see that new bios!Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
Just received my Corsair 3x2 GT kit and installed in BloodRage. Set 7-8-7-20 mem timings in bios. 200 bclk, mem at 2005Mhz. Board WILL NOT RUN cas 7. It shows as cas 8 in cpuz, Everest and memset. When will the memory timing issues in BloodRage bios work the way they are supposed to? Running 1.66v dram and 1.46 vtt. Board will not cold boot with vtt>1.5. This kit runs insane on my DFI. FoxConn needs to catch up.
I think, itīs a Bios bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by tripgood
CAS 7 works fine for me with the G13 BIOS at least.
Perhaps one of your settings is not stable enough and the BIOS reverts to the most recent stable setting/s.
I don't think so. The board never goes to oc recovery. It boots normally but the cas gets changed to 8 from 7. Seems to be exact same bug as the tRAS setting getting changed, just a different setting. I tried G16 also. Same result.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
good to hear! :toast:
about PPM, im not sure if disabling it disables the current monitoring, i dont think so.
when i asked intels nehalem engineers at idf they said its not possible to disable the current and tdp monitoring :/
Any thing new on this Ram on BloodRage? Are G.SKILL DDR3 PC 16000 CL7 3GB/6GB kit Perfect Storm series a good match for BloodRage .Seems like its a no go for me to buy the Corsair ram..:(Quote:
Originally Posted by tripgood
They are working fine at CAS 7 now ;)
where's G17?
Skipped :p:
Must have been really bad! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
G18 too :D
well not realy bad, just not worth to release if A is fixed but somehow B is broken... :D
good to hear cas7 is working fine now :)
With tha latest i can set my ram timmings just perfect :)
but the annoying thing with RAID enabled and cant boot from sata dvd-rom is still there.
Anything about that?
For me its a major problem.
With PATA dvd-rom i can boot just fine.
Maybe the problem is that the bios sets the dvd-rom as achi
I finally got my account working.Looks like an awesome place to share in the fun.I got the g19 bios .Thanks saaya.The only issue I am having is a slow cold boot.My system powers on and fans start to spin then it stops,spins up again then boots.This happens with or without overclocking.System runs perfect after it boots up.On bios g16 I dont have this issue.My rev no is 1.0.One more thing same issue when I swap psu for Toughpower 1200.This is gonna be a great board.I have allready gotten a stable clock of 4.4ghz and semi stable at 4.5.
I get that on G13 as well. :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by rwoodburn1
is it the same for using the marvell and the ich10 sata connectors?Quote:
Originally Posted by OverClocker_gr
just use the other sata slots and try.
for us it works fine, we can boot from vista dvd on a sata optical drive in raid mode and install vista on a raid array... :shrug:
damn thats nice! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by rwoodburn1
about the cold boot psu thing, that might be a small psu compatibility problem, the voltages go up too slow at first boot and the caps need to load first. warmboots work fine, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by dengyong
ill add a note to the psu compatibility list
I have faced that issue as well on G13.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I had a RAID 0 array consisting of 3 Samsung F1 1TB drives and a Optiarc 7191S SATA Optical Drive ( all on the Intel ICH10R ).
It worked fine just like that, booting from the optical drive, installing Windows, etc.
When I plugged in another F1 1TB disk ( single drive, not added to the RAID array ) I couldn't boot from the optical drive just like OverClocker_gr.
I unplugged the 4th F1 1TB and it booted fine from the optical drive and then I hot-plugged the 4th HDD :p:
Can't tell what exactly causes this issue, at least not yet.
hmmm could you please check wich sata slots you are using bill and oc_gr?
i have a feeling it might have to do with the sata slots your using, some may work and some may cause problems when raid is active.
i remember there was something like this on nvidia chipsets, some sata ports could only work in ahci mode or something...
does anybody else remember that?
I tried plugging the 4th HDD and the optiarc on all 3 remaining ports back then if I recall correctly, with the same outcome ( couldn't boot from the optical drive without removing the 4th Samsung F1 1TB ).
I will try that again later on just to make sure.
This was the key point.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
I find what was causing that.
If i put first the raid(i.e slots 1/2) and the dvd rom(3-6), its unable to boot.
If i put first the dvd rom(slot 1) and then the raid(2/3,3/4....), it boots from dvd rom.
Although this is still not right.
You're not alone OverClocker, I am having the same extensive problems you are beyond what Touge and BenchZ had.Quote:
Originally Posted by OverClocker_gr
I have taken many crazy mad steps and the room is just spinning. I have been at this for days.
I am going to try moving the ports around like Saaya suggests and you have found a little relief doing, but it is truly last ditch effort.
I am trying to stripe 2 velociraptors, but not for the OS. I am putting the OS on an OCZ Apex and it doesn't matter if I try to install on Apex or unplug it and install on velociraptors. AHCI worked fine in the past loading the OS on a single velociraptor, but of course for SSD, it is a no go. Everything works find in IDE.
I have followed every other posted step and a few of my own creations that have got me close, but no cheerleader. I have never had to dance like this for raid.
If port swapping doesn't work, I may just tell everyone everything I tried.
Oh ya, P03 and G13.
UPDATE to POST: Port swapping worked. I have to have the optical in the first physical SATA port while in RAID mode or I will never be able to boot from the optical drive.
Hello RayderR6 and OverClocker_gr
This one seems ODD but do u both Set:
Over Integrated Peripherals > OnChip IDE Device
SATA Mode = RAID
OnBoard IDE and eSata Chip = AHCI + IDE Mode
If not, do it and check too uor Removable/CD-ROM Boot Device Priority on Advanced BIOS Features.
Best regards
Hello xX1AinXx, I'm using G13 today.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXlAinXx
UPDATE and Edited Original POST: I can confirm on my system if I set the Jmicron IDE and eSata to RAID+IDE or AHCI+IDE, the following errors occur (these do not happen if set to IDE or Disabled).
1) During post there will be 2 repeat lines which are a brighter white and sit on top of normal post text stating "WARNING: Have Option ROM can not be invoke (Vendor ID: 197Bh, Device ID: 2363h)"
2) When I get to the point of a Vista installation where you select the HDD to install on, the following 2 errors occur and it doesn't matter if it's raid volume or ssd or even if the ssd is hooked up (i.e. raid volume platters only):
A) "Windows is unable to find a system volume that meets its criteria for installation."
B) "This computers hardware may not support booting to this disk. Ensure that the disks controller is enabled in the computers BIOS menu."
It has occured to me that Jmicron drivers need to be installed, but I'm not sure as I did not try (ICH10R x64 drivers didn't make a difference). If the Jmicron drivers needed to be installed then this isn't the way I want to go anyway.
With the Jmicron in IDE or Disabled, my ICH10R volumes worked just fine after Vista was loaded anyway, so I didn't spend anymore time with this.
Moderator, please delete this post. Thank you
Well then, my mistake! I pointed to the manual, please follow these photo.
Quick Raid Setup
Requirements:
One already Active RAID Array. ( CTRL-I at boot Time, for enter on Intel Storage Manager Configuration ROM )
If uor target is installing uor Main OS on this newly created Array, then u need some spare time to fresh install our OS. - see *
Note * U cannot change through IDE RAID AHCI, even some time APIC Mode once u installed uor OS.
Note2 * Some SSD will wont work if AHCI is enable see uor SSD Manufacturer FAQ.
Note3 * Check on uor Manufacturer device FAQ if uor peripheral are able to support AHCI otherwise use IDE.
1- Move on Integrated Peripherals.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...Peripheral.jpg
2 - Select OnChip IDE Device.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...E%20device.jpg
3 - Leave those setting in:
Intel ICH10 SATA Mode = RAID
Jmicron 363 PATA and eSATA = AHCI + IDE Mode
(if u dont mind to using SAS - Disable it as well )
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...AHCI%20IDE.jpg
4 - Now, move to Boot Setting Configuration.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...figuration.jpg
5 - As follow open AHCI Configuration.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...figuration.jpg
6 - Make uor Setting in:
Stagger Spinup Support = Disable
Mechanical Presence Switch = Disable
Hotplug capable port = Enable
Cold Presence Detection = Disable
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...%20Setting.jpg
7 - Go for HDD Boot Priority.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...20Priority.jpg
8 - Double check uor Primary Boot Device.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...%20Setting.jpg
9 - Move on CD-ROM Boot Priority.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...20Priority.jpg
10 - Select uor CD-ROM Boot Device.
http://wiyjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/...%20Setting.jpg
11 - Save and Exit.
12 - Let us know if u got it working :yepp:
Roger all that Room 101 xXIAinXx.
#6 stuff was Room 102 to me, but that is how it is setup when I run it.
Thanks for being thorough with you advice.
UPDATE to POST: see post #138
xXlAinXx,
Very clear raid guide. Nice work:up:
Moderator, please delete this post. Thank you
Hmm, I cannot test out SSD SATA right now, all I have is a 9in1 reader ( USB ) and spare SSD from the cam :rofl:
By the way, u should try G19a and and see if it might fix some SSD compatibily issue BenchZowner Repository.
Edit* As Saaya said, u cannot change through IDE RAID AHCI even APIC Mode once u installed uor OS.
Take a look over there too and check uor PM.
:cat:Quote:
Originally Posted by tripgood
Big thanks for the G19a link, Bench must be working hard :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xXlAinXx
Trust me, I've been all over the OCZ forum and I'm very up to date on setup and ssd tweaks, but like I said in the PM I just sent and a previous post, I have taken the SSD out of the raid setup equation many times, we can't get locked into thinking my raid issue is ssd related only. I'll update this thread and if my issue gets resolved, I can trim it all down to the solution.
The reason I started posting on this thread is OverClocker was still feeling my pain. While others have cleared their hurdles, he and I are still stumbling. Hopefully we can both resolve this, but if it comes down to all options exhausted, I'll just stay in IDE or maybe try a hardware card.
Thanks
Fair enough, and at no time did I really expect it to, I only figured that was the reason for the BSOD. The system ignored my vista boot dvd when I wanted to load a fresh install, instead it started loading an installed windows (i.e. the one that was on the SSD under IDE mode), but since I am now under RAID mode, presto BSOD.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXlAinXx
When going into raid mode, I always expected and planned on installing a fresh vista, but I would either get Disk Boot Failure, blah, blah or it would just skip/ignore my boot from dvd rom first and start loading the IDE vista off the SSD.
I remember now I actually confirmed the behavior (at least in my mind) that it was ignoring the dvd boot, by formatting the ssd and then after the pool data I would get BootMgr missing since this time there was no vista on a hdd. Got this without the ssd when it checked the first hdd where no os was loaded.
The problems I am having (in RAID mode) are getting the vista dvd to boot or when I have been able to do that, getting the vista installed without a installation ending error. It doesn't matter if it's just 2 velociraptors and a dvd-rom or any bigger combination than that.
Before it's suggested, I have tried different dvd-roms.
The next step is back to 2 velociraptors and dvd-rom only with the dvd-rom in port 1, if the dvd fails to boot or if it does boot and the installation fails, then I can honestly say I've tried everything in the book and can only hope it can be resolved by a BIOS update.
UPDATE to POST: DVD-ROM in SATA port 1 before any HDD's was the cure for my installation issues in RAID mode.
Good News, for the most part. When I get to work tonight, I will self moderate previous posts so people eyes don't bleed too much reading useless text :D , I will also discuss what I feel (as a user level guy) might be a BIOS/SSD problem in RAID mode with pics of BIOS.
I can load vista on a 2 velociraptor RAID with DVD-rom only (likely would work with my backup drive also since it spins), the absolute sole difference between my couple attempts in the past (with no ssd) and this time is the dvd-rom was in sata port 1 and not after the velociraptors. If I had thought of or read that early enough, I could have saved about 15 installation attempts and about 5 image restores :p:. I loaded the vista and did all the driver and utilities I would want off the bloodrage dvd, but didn't go any farther with that installation. All was working well though.
xXlAinXx, for me the Jmicron IDE and eSata has to be IDE or disabled and I will explain that tonight also. UPDATE: Please see post #138
My 2 error free choices right now are 1) stripe vista on 2 Vr's with no SSD (or at least not using the SSD effectively for cost) or 2) vista on SSD and run in IDE (currently what I'm doing now)
A non-error free, but workable (not liked) solution is load vista on SSD in RAID mode and have 2 Vr's striped for data (which is the configuration I want), but here's the kicker, I have to leave the vista dvd in the optical drive and have the optical as first boot device. Wierd, I know, but it is the only acceptable way it will boot without a BootMgr missing error. Yes, by saying "acceptable", there was another way, but Billy boy Gates wouldn't like it :ROTF:
Full details tonight. Thanks.
New "stable" ( P series ) BIOS from Foxconn.
Click here to download the P04 BIOS for the Foxconn BloodRage
I had solved in this way:Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
into bios set as RAID
I plugged ssd g.skill on port sata0
I plugged dvd / cdrom on port sata5
i have installed vista (but works also XP) and then i have installed the "Intel RAID Driver" in OS, then i connected to port SATA1 and SATA2 my two Velociraptors ....
So does everything works.
Now instead I have two raid's:
one) sata0 and sata1 (two ssd g.skill)
two) sata2 and sata3 (two velociraptor) :D
and on sata5 my dvd / cdrom.....only problem that I can not boot directly from the dvd / cdrom!
omgQuote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
are afraid that this bios does not go well.
I have the g13 and it should be fine. you advice me to change it?
What improvements are there?
Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
I haven't tested the new BIOS ( P04 ) yet, so I can't tell.
G13 is good, actually the best BIOS at the moment, unless P04 proves to be better.
We shall find out soon.
The P04 contains some improvements that can help in stabilizing our systems at high BCLKs and improved memory kits compatibility.
Indeed, I can see how that all went and why now you can't boot from cd-rom. 2 SSD's would put you past my config, but I can see it all clearly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
Testing on my rig, you can't boot from your cd-rom (in RAID mode) because it is not first on your sata ports. I can honestly say for my rig, if the cd-rom is not before the hdd's (ssd or platters), the BIOS will ignore the fact that I have 1st boot device cd-rom (even if I make all 3 boots the cd or use smart menu to boot cd), instead it seems to address the physical port order. Changing hdd boot order, BIOS does follow that. Of course, I can't set my ports up to where I can't use the cd-rom boot, somewhere down the line, one is going to need that.
Riddle me this though, when your BIOS is loading, the menu just before the Intel Storage Manager displays, when they list your sata port devices, do you see a "Reset Port Error!!" for your SSD's or do they display the "G.Skill..." the same way you see it in the Intel Storage Manager?
I will have pics up in a few hours.
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/3245/brbiosa.th.jpghttp://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4638/brbiosb.th.jpg
I might have found a BIOS issue with an OCZ Apex SSD and the Bloodrage (I am eagerly awaiting ilsant0’s reply on his G.Skills), it could be an Apex issue or a ICH10R issue. I am using G13 and in RAID mode.
Don’t sweat that my post text it a little off screen to the left, this happens when I use the svga pc port on my LCD TV, if I used HDMI, it would be centered.
The first pic is part of the bios boot to come up before the Intel Storage Manager. The first 2 lines appear and about a second later it will list your sata port devices. Normally that list will zip by, but there is a 2 second delay trying to read port 3 where my Apex SSD is so it is easy at this point to hit Pause/Break and take the pic.
What is going to happen next is the port 3 read will be “Reset Port Error!!” instead of “OCZ Apex_SSD” like it reads everywhere else in either RAID or IDE mode. Once this error displays, it and the next line will zip by (I have not been able to hit the Pause/Break just right to get the pic because it zips by too fast, but that is what it says) and goes into Intel Storage Manager (pic 2) and you can see that it recognizes the Apex.
Now before I added the Apex, you may have read that I resolved my RAID installation issue (IDE installation has always worked well) with the port placement of the optical rom and confirmed everything was fine to install Vista x64 on a RAID volume and loaded bloodrage drivers and utilities. I was so happy to see things working the way it should now, that I left the volume installation alone and set out to install on the SSD while I still had the raid volume installation intact. Here is where the pics come into play.
The vista installation went just fine on the SSD and it reboots 3 times like usual to complete installation, but keep in mind my optical is set to first boot device. I did see the “Reset Port Error!!”, but didn’t think much of it as things were going fine. Now vista is done and I put the bloodrage DVD in to install chipset drivers on the SSD installation and reboot and I get a BootMgr missing when loading windows.
I now have a dual OS boot system menu as one might expect.
Key points: My SSD is first HDD boot priority and the Vista DVD is no longer in the optical. I change the HDD boot priority to raid volume first then SSD and I get my dual OS boot menu again and the first is still the SSD install, so I select it and I’m in the SSD installation. I put the vista DVD back in the optical, restart and put the SSD back to first in HDD priority and I get my dual OS boot screen again.
The obvious facts are it can’t boot from the SSD itself, it either has to have A) the vista dvd in the optical and have optical as first boot priority or B) it has to boot from the raid volume installation (by making it first HDD boot priority) and when doing this I don’t have to have the optical in first system boot priority. This was what I meant by Billy Gates wouldn’t like, I actually have to have vista loaded twice just to get the SSD to boot. Either solution is unacceptable for a configuration of course.
To dispell any possiblity of it being a installation on a single drive while a raid volume is just a data drive with the ICH10R, I did throw in another platter and installed vista on it. It all went just fine and no errors.
I think the whole BootMgr missing when using the SSD as first HDD and having the HDD as first system boot priority could be traced to the “Reset Port Error!!” , but it could be an OCZ Apex or any SSD issue as a boot drive on a ICH10R or X58 chipset config while in RAID mode. I plan on opening a thread at OCZ to talk to Tony about it in hopes to narrow down the problem.
To help me figure this out, I would love to hear from anybody who has a SSD (1 or more) as a boot drive in RAID mode (on bloodrage of course) chime in with how the first pic menu states their SSD, what SSD you’re using, BIOS version, physical sata port configurations and any other info you deem important. Thanks.
If any of the Bloodrage BIOS engineers (Saaya, BenchZowner) can read my post and have any thoughts about this “Reset Port Error!!”, I would appreciate. I have my sata cables arranged in such a way that I can easily get this setup going again and still return easily to my IDE (i.e. I can be the gunniea pig for this issues resolution).
I've got P03, P04, G13, G15, G16 and G19a. I will likely check out P04, but have no intention on any other G's unless there is a need (SSD issue?) or an advantage. I'm a little gunshy on BIOS updates that way.
Thanks.
Sorry for the delayQuote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
i can confirm only a few things...
first:
when i use this config ( 2xg.skill in raid on sata0 and sata1 - 2x VR on sata2 and 3 - dvd/cd on sata4 and in bios set to raid), I CANT SEE nothing on bios bootstrap BEFORE of the "Intel Storage Manager displays". Its all very fast and so i must hit the pause key only when i ear the "beep". But, in this case, i get this shoot:
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/6308/snc00076.th.jpg
strangely pressing pause key it interprets as a overclocking problem, so i must go into bios and save the bios through the F10 key and reboot the sistem, otherwise i cant boot .... is it another bios bug ?
second:
when i had only a ssd g.skill and i had the installation problem of Os's (vista and XP such as bootmngr missing or the other one error)... simply i changed into bios the set from ide to raid, using OLNY ONE ssd as boot disk and the installation of vista/xp continued
third:
I also think that there is a bug in bios about the priority of boot
Finally, do you want me try to put the dvd on the port sata0/first?
sorry for my poor english, but im a lawyer and the hardware is from only my 20 years old hobby
:D
p.s.
my bios is g13 and using raid mode into bios actually
For keep better reliability I would suggest to open/move those hijacking SSD issue to another fresh thread :p:
What engrish, are you buzzed :DQuote:
Originally Posted by xXlAinXx
What if my SSD issue is a bloodrage bios bug? Then wouldn't I be in the right thread :p: , this is what I'm trying to determine and since within the post/bios run, I clearly have an error calling itself an error "Reset Port Error!!", I'm leaning toward this. If it turns out not to be a bios error, then I can move it or any moderator that feels it's wrong can move it. Thanks.
Lol Im on afterhours, and I need to keep myself awake :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
U right, but before reporting u must be sure this error is not only one invalid parameter from the bios < > SSD managment setting :p:
anyway I might need some rest :D
Edit* See the Reset Port Error!! on 1.5 Tera Drive was caused by the bad firmware XDDD
Thanks for getting back to me. Yes, that's the menu and it does zip by on mine except the fact that it takes a couple seconds before displaying the "Reset Port Error!!" before zipping the rest by. Here is a photoshopped image of how it would look:Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/652...shopped.th.jpg
However, I see your G.Skills are displaying properly with no error like mine. Might have to shift some focus to the Apex for the problem. Just to be sure, down below you're telling me you're using the ICH10R and not a hardware card, right?
Sorry, I wouldn't know, never had an OC Recovery Occur, but that sure would be a funny time and a unusual ignition (i.e. pause/break button)Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
:confused2 Are you saying when you only had 1 SSD, that you were installing the OS under IDE mode, then just switched BIOS to RAID mode and it still worked? I have a vista installed on the Apex under IDE and if try to boot from it in RAID mode, I get a BSOD while loading windows files. Anyhoo, getting off track.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
No, that's ok, it works for you and if you are currently unable to load a boot disk from your optical as you said, then I know why as it is the same reason as it would be on my machine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
I'm going to try another clean attempt at my desired configuration on Monday and see if I'm still getting this "Reset Port Error!!".
:up: Your english is just fine, better than xXIAinXx right now, but he may be typing drunk :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
Oh come on, give an average user a break, this is like having to have a credit card before you can get a credit card. I've done a lot of work on my own, had some thoughts, trying to gather more information from people using the same hardware, asking some pros for opinions, all starting with my first take and taking it from there.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXlAinXx
Ahaa, I see you're onto something here and not a bad memory for being drunk :ROTF: , but funny how I don't get any errors in IDE mode. Could just be the SSD in RAID mode. Still could be a few things IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by xXlAinXx
Since ilsant0s G.Skills are displaying fine, I was starting to shift attention to Apex problem and this could be another piece to take it there.
I am going to do some research on that and maybe hit up Tony at OCZ if I need to. I've already read some posts over there about different firmware versions on the Apex. If it is an Apex problem, I will remove all the SSD stuff from this thread and leave only the fact that ICH RAID for me only completes installation with optical in first port. Seems like a lot of posts in this thread are related to RAID.
Thanks, now go get a cup of coffee.
Tried out the p04.I took a big performance hit.Using my same overclock.Cpuz also reported lower cpu clocks that were set in bios.My cold boot issues got worse also.I had to push my power button every time to do a cold boot even though I had it set for power on after power failure .For me g19 is the best performer and g16 solves my cold boot issues.I wish I could combine the 2.
Yes!... i confirm that.Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
This was my only big installation iussue. In bios I setted as IDE but on first OS reboot i toke this error (bootmgr is missing = vista 64 - and for XP another strange error...). To resolve this iussue i changed ONLY the setting into bios from IDE to RAID and the installation ended.... i think that it is a ssd firmware bug.
You can do this test: connect only sata0 = optical drive and sata1 Apex. In bios set on IDE and then install Vista 64. When vista installation reboot for first time and you get the bootmgr error, go in bios and set to RAID. In the next restart youll see to continue the vista installation without error :) test it!
If your installation end without vista installation error, please set on sata0 your apex and on sata4 your optical driver (this is mine condition in which i take vista installation error...
At this point i don know if it is a Bloodrage bios iussue or a ssd firmware bug.
Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
i thing the only difference between mine and your sistem is the dvd/cd's sata port.
I have it on sata 4 while you have it on sata0.
So today ill change my dvd sata port into sata0
ill set in this mode:
sata0 = dvd/cd
sata1= nothing
sata2/3= ssd g.skill (in raid)
sata4/5= VR (in raid)
LOL :D :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
That's not a bug and has nothing to do with the BloodRage.Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
When you set the Intel ICH10R SATA-RAID Controller to AHCI or RAID mode you NEED to give the Windows installation the drivers in order to be able to use the ICH10R.
You can do that by pressing F4 and inserting a floppy (LOL) disk with the Intel ICH10R drivers, or in vista browse to the ICH10R TXT-Mode drivers on any kind of media ( FDD,CD,DVD,USB Flash Disk Drive )... or even better integrate the ICH10R drivers to your Windows installation disk with nLite.
Sorry BenchZowner,Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
i have forgott to explain that i always use a XP disk with ICH10R drivers integrate with nlite :)
But nevertheless it, i take the installation error.
Howheaver, i had the error in *IDE MODE*, not in RAID mode.
For example now i have this configuration
sata0 = optical driver (tnx RayderR6!!! :up: it work well and on bootstrap finally i can see the dvd achpi call for first! :clap: )
sata1 = nothing
sata2/sata3= ssd g.skill on raid
sata4/sata5= Velociraptor on raid
Ill try to install VISTA 64
im sure that if i try to install XP/Vista on sata2 or sata3 (g.skill ssd) in IDE MODE from bios, ILL TAKE the error (obviously using the disk with driver ich10r patched using nlite...)
Yes, based on saayas suggestion to swap ports around, I found having the optical on first, then all HDD's after solved my OS install problem in RAID. I feel this is well documented within this thread now, once/if I find that my SSD issue is not BIOS related, you and I will have to clean up our posts here :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by ilsant0
See, you chime in to help and get helped, now you can boot from a disc ;)
You won't need to load any RAID drivers for Vista 64, it will go butter smooth.
ok...when you post for clean ill clean my reply too...Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
installing vista 64! :D
I have a gskill titan on port 3 that gives the reset port error.
It works in windows but I see a reset port error at boot, only on this drive.
I have 2x ocz V2s in raid 0 on ports 1 and 2, the titan on port 3, a seagate 7200.9 on port 4, and 2x dvd drives on ports 5 and 6.
Information is really coming together now, thanks for posting dengyong. I take it you don't have any issues booting from optical even though they are after the HDD's?Quote:
Originally Posted by dengyong
So on an ICH10R we have:
OK: 1 set G.Skill RAID Disks
OK: 1 set OCZ V2's RAID Disks
Reset Port Error!! 1 OCZ Apex Non-RAID Disk
Reset Port Error!! 1 G.Skill Titan Non-RAID Disk
The Titan and Apex are similar internal with the 2 Jmicron controllers striped on a 309, possible importance. While I was running my RAID volume OS, I could use the Apex as a storage (even though it had the Reset Port Error!!), just like you can dengyong, but that is what I meant by inefficient use $/GB, at least for my wallet :yepp:.
If it's a pita, I understand, but is it possible for you to install vista on the Titan, make it first boot in HDD list, after complete OS install take out the vista dvd and tell me if you get a BootMgr missing?
I'm not getting much googling this error, funny enough, the best refers to this thread. I am trying to expand it to other X58 mobos now and if I get one, I can get this going on it's own thread as it wouldn't be a Bloodrage BIOS bug, but still might be fixed with a BIOS update.
Thanks ppl.
I've done some more testing and the gskill titan give the reset port error on every port I put it on (4 other ports).
The drive works fine other than that and the other drives worked fine on the same ports without giving an error.
Bios g13 and p04.
I got a dollar that says if you: (Warning: if you do this, you might have some cleaning up of a dual boot OS to go back to your original config, VistaBootPro is a great little tool to clean this stuff up, but if you don't want to deal with any of it, don't try anything below, thanks)Quote:
Originally Posted by dengyong
1) move the Titan to first boot in HDD list
2) install vista on the Titan (you'll have a dual boot OS now with your Raided OCZ's)
3) make sure in dual boot menu, you're selecting the Titan install (I figure it to be first and the default selection, i.e. let it go)
4) after vista is done with the final reboot, remove the vista dvd, reboot and see if you get a BootMgr missing.
If you do get a BootMgr missing, change your HDD disk first priority to your OCZ Raid volume and you will get into your dual boot OS menu again. If that works, change the Titan back to first HDD boot priority and put in vista dvd, reboot and see if you get you dual boot OS menu again.
If it goes this way for you, we have a very similar setup, with the exact same problem in using that setup.
While the bios trying invoke the Raid, some of uor device state;Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
(A1)a wrong
or
(B1)one already occupied
memory allocation and therfore the operation cannot be inizialized.
Both can be Bios/Firmware releated. Thus (A1) it's more inclined to the SSD Firmware one.
Well engineers will know for sure where to look :p
Are there any release notes for this new bios?
bill, you dont like G19? G13 is still better for you? :DQuote:
Improvements for P04 are:
memory compatibility
cpu core multiplier improvements [30+ with 4 cores still doesnt work but we are getting there :)]
several minor improvements to improve stability at high overclocks
sorry guys, dont have time to read up on the raid probs right now, ill post here later :)
I've got windows 7 on the titan and it's working fine as is, so I'll leave it alone for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
No worries, you've given me a great example for my chart, thanks. Is windows 7 the only OS on your system right now or in dual boot with that vista you list?Quote:
Originally Posted by dengyong
Dual boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
:d:d:d
It was defective video card.
RegardsCode:I know this was already discussed, by the way I leave one post for further reference and/or insight for XFX GX-295N-HHFF QUAD card holder.
Problem
System with specific Bios are unable to handle SLI
Troubleshooting
This happend while swapping from "BIOS A"* to "BIOS B"* on Vista x64.
Option 1
Vista deactivate SLI and pop:
"Incompatible display adapter has been disabled. At least one display adapter on the system has been disabled because it's driver is not compatible with the driver for the VGA adapter."
Error.
Option 2
Freeze BSOD
Option 3
Resolution restored to default generic-vga
Option 4
Flickering to black video till "no device connected"
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Affected Card
Code GX-295N-HHFF
Model XFX NVIDIA GeForce GTX295 1792Mb Gddr3 896bit HDMI PCi-Ex
Main
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&SUBSYS_40241682&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&SUBSYS_40241682
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&CC_0300
Slave
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&SUBSYS_40241682&REV_A1
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&SUBSYS_40241682
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&CC_030200
PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_05E0&CC_0302
Booting from Safe Mode and removing/reinstalling the driver will stop the issue on "BIOS B". After that the system remain unable to handle properly SLI.
The system will suddently crash when SLI is enabled, even on factory setting. Any 3D application cause a BSOD 0x00000116 Error.
Swapping back to "BIOS A" by "BIOS B" will let Vista ask again for another video driver installation plus one Microsoft license reactivation** is needed, SLI working fine after that.
Interesting points taken from dump file are:
Temporary solution:
Code:
! sig: Verifying file against specific (valid) catalog failed! (0x00000057)
! sig: Error 87: The parameter is incorrect.
! sig: Verifying file against specific Authenticode(tm) catalog failed! (0x80092003)
! sig: Error 0x80092003: An error occurred while reading or writing to a file.
!!! dvi: Device not started: Device has problem: 0x0a: CM_PROB_FAILED_START.
! dvi: Driver list already built
! ndv: Queueing up error report since device has a PnP problem...
Stick with G16 - G19 Bios.
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*"BIOS A" and "BIOS B" are Motherboard Bioses
"BIOS A" SLI working G16, G19.
"BIOS B" SLI not working P03, G13, P04, P06.
Bios not tested G15, G18.
** on the first swap if the product was already activated.
Bios Changelog:
G16 Recalibrated Power-Chip.
G19 1.Enhanced memory compatibility for certain memories. 2.The memory tCL adjusting function now works as intended.
I'm getting some issues.
-After putting the computer to sleep, I can't get Windows back. Everything powers on like it's waking up, but my screen is black.
-On reboot, my Vdimm always goes from 1.6v to 1.85v. Have to manually reset in BIOS and save again.
-In Windows, CPU clock and volts, as well as mem clocks get throttled down. Not a big deal, but I notice a big difference in performance when just messing around.
Only changes in BIOS are (need to double check these when I get home but I think they are right):
-CPU Turbo off
-System Turbo on
-Mem multi 12x
-QPI multi 24x
-CxE disabled
-S1 resume
[QUOTE=BrokeDown;3713361]I'm getting some issues.
Fixed in BIOS P06.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeDown
Do you get a error message or notice that your system is back at its default settings ?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeDown
Which BIOS version are you using ?
That's Intel's SpeedStep.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeDown
Disable the EIST & CxE settings in the CPU Configuration menu.
Think Ive EIST enabled, Turbp Mode always on and in Vista high performance, that pretty much forces 21x too;)
I believe I flashed P06 last night. It was the most recent dated BIOS off the Foxconn website.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I wasn't getting error messages on the restarts.
I did disable EIST & CxE.
Currently, the only issues I am have now are:
1) With S1 suspend, putting the computer to sleep does not turn off the computer.
2) "CPU Turbo Always on" Does not give my the 21x multiplier
EIST has to be enabled to get +1.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeDown
EIST: Enabled,
Turbo: Always On,
CPU Multi: x20
will give you a constant x21
I'll try re-enabling EIST, but I disabled that because it was throttling my clocks. I'm assuming it shouldn't this time with Turbo always on?Quote:
Originally Posted by RayderR6
Like RayderR6 told you.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeDown
Set Turbo to Always On, and keep EIST enabled and you'll have a constant 21x multi.
Not for me. With EIST on, it throttles no matter what. EIST off, I have constant x20.Quote:
Originally Posted by BenchZowner
I am on P06 as well.
That's just weird.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrokeDown
I had a quickie ( quick bench with liquid nitrogen ) with a C0 i7 920 on the BloodRage with the P06 BIOS today and I had no problem on running 21x all the time with EIST enabled, CxE disabled, and Turbo Mode set to Always On.
4.6GHz wPrime 8 threads went just fine.
Anyone ever seen this ???
It appears on every OS i have used (XP , 2k3 , 2k8 , vista) . Bios tried : G19A & P06 & P03 .
Of course i have only one dimm installed . If i insert 3 dimms , then the total ammount ov memory would be : 263124 MB approx .
Also , on thaiphoon burner , i have one more SMBUS device at 57h which is this cannon spd ... It's recognized as "SPD eeprom at 57h" .
I've been getting an overclock error after EVERY (yes every) reboot. I'm running bios P07, I have a Core i7 920 oc'ed to 3.08ghz with G.Skill DDR3 1333 (7-7-7-18) overclocked to DDR3 1452 (7-7-6-16) at 1.6v with 2x WD640AAKS's in RAID 0 Stripe, and a Radeon HD4850 (if you need any more info on my system just ask). I have to go into the bios and resave all my settings after every reboot and once my system is booted it runs fine but it is very frustrating when my family members can't use my computer because of this overclock error. I never used to have this error before.
EDIT: woops i didnt know i filled out my sig with my rig info lol. i have a 4850 now that 9800gt is gone
so what have you done ?Quote:
I never used to have this error before.
I had a CO 920 that would not recover from a bad overclock and this meant I had to reset CMOS and fill out all the bios settings each time, The trick is to get a good Overclock then save it in the OC GEAR section of the bios. Then just load that profile each time it crashes,
I have had oc recovery working great on my new DO 920, so its not an issue anymore for me.
Your RAM is overclocked so I would put more like 1.65vdimm in and see if thats your problem.
Good luck and if this dont help post your Voltage settings
On BR multiplier will never be steady at 21 with any bios. With EIST On, Turbo On, CxE disabled it still jump.
It may be checked with i7 turbo:
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4016/62155045.jpg
:confused:
You got steady 21x
even with "current feedback override" set to enabled into bios under CPU features?
it does the trick for me > http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/723...950714p.th.png
multiply must be always 21, i e max=min=21
current feedback override helps a little, but not in full.
vista profile is performance btw.
only one thing may help to get multiply 21 really steady - eist disabled, which means without cpu turbo.
cpu-z shows 21 always but it's just too slow :)
that's why utilities like i7 turbo exists
for example, on dfi x58 with eist enabled multiplier is constant 21.
hope this will be fixed in new bios.
weird
i'm on G25 with current feedback override enabled, like i said above it's stable @ 100% load
i'd give it another try
don't you see on your own screenshot that min not equal max not equal 21?
try run prime with several hours and you will see more drops.
21 is not steady obviously.
i'll try runnig more time as you say it change more with more time
but
(20.9789+21.0898)/2=21.03435 :confused:
even is it goes to 20.9 does it really change something? you call that not stable?
220x20.0898=4615.358mhz
220x21=4620mhz
afaik clock always varies a bit.
Hi hope someone can answer this cos its doing my head in, Just got this board today and fell in love with it straight away, BUT, here's my dilema, and im sorry if this has been brought up before but here we go again.
Im running 2 samsung F1's in RAID0 on thias board, as pulled from my previous system (DFI x48) however my DVD drive is also SATA, plugging it into the intel controllers, the bios see's it as ACHI DVD/CD drive, but no matter what I change I cant seem to boot from it to run a fresh install.
Ive also tried it in the SAS ports and they pick it up as an unknown device.
Any help would be greatly appreciated
You need to connect the optical drive ( DVD/RW, etc ) to the first SATA port of the intel ICH10R controller.
Thanks for the quick responce, ive got that sorted, and now for another problem, although im not completely sure this a problem.
The bios im running is P06, I would like to flash it, but im not completely sure how to do it on this board yet as ive heard some issues some are having with bios P06, the problem that im having though is, in the overclocking menu in the bios I have set everything manually to stock settings, the memory im running is 6gb, 3 x 2gb sticks of Patriot Viper 1600mhz, I believe these use micron IC's, although ive set them up in the bios to the stock speed of 1600mhz and the timmings to 8-8-8-24, when in windows CPU-z is showing them as running 534mhz, at DDR rate thats only 1066mhz total, not 1600mhz as ive set in the bios ???
Im just trying to iron out all these issues before I start to overclock it, just incase im doing something wrong.
Any help on this subject would be apreciated
TIA
set uncore twice of dram speed