I testet Adaptec 1405. Crappy thing :rolleyes:
I get a better perfomance with ASUS Striker II Extreme (Onboard - 790i).
For best performance you need a controler with IOP341-CPU (NOT 348!!!). For example ARC-1231/1261/1280ML
I testet Adaptec 1405. Crappy thing :rolleyes:
I get a better perfomance with ASUS Striker II Extreme (Onboard - 790i).
For best performance you need a controler with IOP341-CPU (NOT 348!!!). For example ARC-1231/1261/1280ML
How do you figure that out? Is it worse than onboard still at random reads?Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
All it really neads is a little BIOS TLC, performance is nowhere near what it can be. Much better "general" usage than the onboard still though.Quote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
Hopefully... The general usage is only better due to the cache. Turn that off and poof, its worse than onboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
I got the best PCMark Vantage "importing pictures" results off onboard. While I get the others to go up the more I tweak that one just keeps dropping. Onboard with a single drive (or maybe it was 2) got like 100MB/s and now with my best score ever its about 30. Virusscan is like 300MB/s though :DQuote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
How crappy? I just told my work to order the 1045 for an external SAS tape autoloader.Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
boottimer info/thread/download: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=212097
supertalent and areca released new firmwares
finally 0.1ms.. read/write/burst a few improved
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/4964/1231jw3.png
4 sec flat windows bootup time ? ill give it a shot..
wow/daium/holy.. watta a diff !! :eek:
the new ssd firmware teared thru winxp install like never before.. and other app install aswell :clap:
its a totally new/faster/snappier rig.. finally getting the performance worth the $
so far i got it down to 4.156 sec bootup but the actual bootup is less than 3 seconds more like 2 seconds
there you go! You probably gained 30-35% random reads that you lost before due to :banana::banana::banana::banana:ty controller implementation.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Not really crappy before just never designed to handle SSD drives properly. If I don't see something soon from Adaptec I may have to change controllers ;)
EDIT: oh lol thats the 1231 I don't think I'm dropping that much cash.
I'm wanting to upgrade the standard 256Mb memory to 2GB on my 1231 controller. Could someone point me in the right direction as what memory to purchase. Thanks.
well the ssd firmware i updated after arc1231s.. that i did a few days ago.. i got the ssd firmware days ago but i just flashed todayQuote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
or if you mean the ssds crapy jmicron controller.. indeed
not quite 4 flat but close
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/474/bootupmk4.png
actual bootup @ 2 seconds
4x @ arc1231 before/after ssd and controller firmware latest updates
before
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7950/62709569ik3.png
after
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6613/95843445jn4.png
before
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9896/98918595ed8.png
after
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3809/31145282bv9.png
Did they do a new firmware for 1210 as well?
latest is 1.46.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
I am talking about the controller not adding 30-35% latency anymore. Nothing about jmicron. If you look at your avg response time it was 0.2 before and now it is 0.1 as it should be. You've gained ~30% random read IOPS.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Look at the max responce time, 0.32/0.28ms before and 0.17 after.
yes.. 1.46-80806 oldQuote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
all areca raid cards @ new 1.46-90106Quote:
Originally Posted by flopper
bios/firm 1.46-90106 didnt lower the .2ms cause i flashed that days agoQuote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
the supertalent ssd firmware fixed that yesterday
holy f**k at the arc1231 result!!
how fast can that boot vista.. something like 3-5 seconds?
Oh I see it was the drives. Thanks for clearing that up.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
im interested and id be all over it but when i see 10000MB/s ram @ 200MB/s ?? and then i have to deal with a third party controllers :shakes:
abomination!!!
lol well its not all 1231/ssd but also:Quote:
Originally Posted by Demo
4500mhz q9650
600mhz ddr2
nlited winxp
yeh after flash completed it performed random read/write testsQuote:
Originally Posted by One_Hertz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...ame=UnbufferedQuote:
Originally Posted by Tutto
your welcome :)
post ssd firm update
arc1231 2048MB
http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/6613/95843445jn4.png
arc1231 512MB
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/281/1231qs7.png
A little bit slower than my ASUS Striker II Extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
In my eyes only "SATA-Expander".
@ Napalm
Please try Crystaldiskmark (1000MB)
^ ive updated above to include ich10r @ h2benchw
- first post revised
Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
before ^Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
after (arc1231+512MB)
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6648/aftervq7.png
Hm - why donīt you use Intel-SSDs?
1x Intel X25-E (look @ 4k write) http://forum.ssdworld.ch/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=81
thats the plan but there are so many things around the corner new controllers/ssds/interface
believe you me id rather have 4x x25e instead of this px crap
but i got these before x25e release
I hope to see 4x X-25-E to your controller.
Do you mean new controllers inside SSDs?
How did you find the firmware? I'm looking all over for g.skill ssd firmware.
yeh new ssd controllers.. new sata600 based raid cards..Quote:
Originally Posted by F.E.A.R.
support/download page..Quote:
Originally Posted by ewitte
if they dont have any updates online.. givem a call/email
Napalm can you try the new firmware on your Adaptec 5805 , they released new firmware today 02-18-2009 ( Adaptec RAID 5085 Firmware/BIOS Update Ver. 5.2.0 Build 16501
Filename: 5085_fw_b16501.exe
Date: 18 Feb 2009
Size: 1.0 MB
Language: English US
Version: 5.2.0 b16501 ) copy paste from adaptec site.http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/speed/r...b16501_exe.htm
I own an Adaptec 5805 and 2405 and both controllers are performing better now with this new firmware ,My 5805 and 8x 30GB OCZ Core Series v2 Raid0 are performing much better now with this firmware , seems to be more SSd friendly than previous firmware from August and December. Good day and thanks for sharing all this information and benchmarks , very usefull tread.
chispy.
i checked on the 18th lol they had nothing new.. thanks for the headsup
sure ill flash later today and give it a whirl
highpoint also released new beta fw for 3520 last week after ~10 long months.. but nothing has changed
ill redo all @ h2benchw/etc
5805 - before/after latest fw/bios
http://img385.imageshack.us/img385/4...5hdtachlu7.jpghttp://img15.imageshack.us/img15/4980/5805.png
3520 - before/after latest fw/bios
http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/4...0hdtachpo8.jpghttp://img510.imageshack.us/img510/9822/3520.png
the way ssd functions on these controllers is standard sata support
still no ssd support and even when they do add support.. support gets very very specific just like on the areca 1231
h2benchw coming up..
4x px raid0
1231 - 2048MB
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4585/12312048.png
1231 - 512MB
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/6756/1231512.png
5805 - 512MB
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7968/5805512.png
3520 - 256MB
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/9686/3520256.png
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2x px raid0 for comparison
1210 - 256MB
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/4906/1210256.png
i couldnt do ich10r right now.. will include it later on
This is all very interesting. When I'd looked at RAID cards it was simply about finding out which cards would work with the throughput that SSDs in an array provide. This goes to show that while the 5405 might well deliver the throughput, it places a fair bit of latency on things, and the end result is a poor performing array.
The last set of results you posted, was that with the new firmware on the Adaptec?
5405/5805 are capable of up to 1200MB/s .. and are capable of low latency .. its not so much the specs .. support/full support #1
yeah all controllers waring the latest/first updates of the year
For SAS devices.Quote:
Originally Posted by NapalmV5
4x px ssd raid0 @ arc1231 MFTed
http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/6540/pcmark053.png
http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3527/random.pnghttp://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4117/read.png
http://img8.imageshack.us/img8/2516/h2benchw.png
NOTE: please dont take these numbers seriously dont want to make anyone cry :)
Faking Benchmarks, The Good Benchmark List, How To Spot Cheats and More...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=46926
:D
Napalm ain't cheating/faking... he's just tricking.. Those benchmarks he's posting are just being tricked by MFT. I don't think he really thinks his system can perform at those levels. Just having fun... aren't you Napalm?
You could argue that it's not a trick, since his system does perform at those levels. MFT is just caching taken to another level. The whole point of MFT is to allow the huge sequential speeds of SSDs to happen.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Halk
5000MB/s readspeed when reading a file in a game or application? Yeah right :rolleyes:
Copy a 5gb file in 1 second :ROTF:
But this is fun numbers ;)
but of course since its my results they have to be :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
does it hurt so much?
well ive included this @ post NOTE: please dont take these numbers seriously dont want to make anyone cry :)
i cant believe your asking.. what you take me for man.. of course just having fun :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Griff805
the only way i could test how really mft performs is to have another 4x px/arc1231 mfted array.. to test transfers between the twoQuote:
Originally Posted by Halk
i didnt get a chance to test apps/games yet
5GB/s indeed .. 12GB/s fastamundo!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nizzen
When MFTed it that booting from the boot volume?
os: arc1210
mft: arc1231
:)