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11-03-2008, 09:44 PM
davewolfs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

well, scroll up on the top of the page, and read the title .... :rofl:
Xtreme what?
:ROTF: :ROTF: :ROTF:

Do any other boards support the functionality of disabling this 130W throttling, btw wtf is a smacker board :)
11-03-2008, 09:49 PM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewolfs

Do any other boards support the functionality of disabling this 130W throttling, btw wtf is a smacker board :)

I think so, we did recommand this few months ago.:cool:
11-03-2008, 10:23 PM
unclewebb

Intel renames X58 Smackover - DX58SO
11-04-2008, 01:01 AM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by unclewebb

Intel renames X58 Smackover - DX58SO

:confused:

Quote:

Written by Andreas G 16 May 2008 12:01
11-04-2008, 01:59 AM
revogamer

any pointers or knowledge for ocing on smackover + i920?

dinos22 12k posts !!
11-04-2008, 05:42 AM
GoldenTiger

Can you use the same heatsinks from socket 775 on these, or do you have to buy a new one?
11-04-2008, 05:55 AM
[XC] Oj101

Nope, the dimensions are different. Unfortunately you need either an adapter or a new sink.
11-04-2008, 06:07 AM
davewolfs

Aside from the default clock speed and multipliers being different, are there any other differences between the 920 and 940? What kind of OC results are people getting with the 940's?
11-04-2008, 06:44 AM
BiTsCrEaM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Can you use the same heatsinks from socket 775 on these, or do you have to buy a new one?

The measurements are different between the two, so yeah you'll need a new heatsink unless you want to work with an adaptor.
11-04-2008, 06:47 AM
Drwho?

Toms is updating his OC : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e-i7,2063.html
11-04-2008, 07:03 AM
GoldenTiger

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiTsCrEaM

The measurements are different between the two, so yeah you'll need a new heatsink unless you want to work with an adaptor.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oj101

Nope, the dimensions are different. Unfortunately you need either an adapter or a new sink.

Thank you.
11-04-2008, 08:46 AM
BiTsCrEaM

No problem man.
11-04-2008, 09:31 AM
veedubfreak

I believe i read that thermalright and swiftech will both have adapters out for their coolers to fit the i7.
11-04-2008, 11:39 AM
JacobF

100% air cooling :)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4720/evgax58ry1.png
11-04-2008, 12:05 PM
BiTsCrEaM

Anyway to get that voltage a little lower? :D
11-04-2008, 12:10 PM
davewolfs

What type of memory do i need to get my FSB up to the 200 range.
11-04-2008, 01:24 PM
xgman

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAkUp

100% air cooling :)

Nice! :up:
11-04-2008, 02:40 PM
bingo13

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewolfs

Do any other boards support the functionality of disabling this 130W throttling, btw wtf is a smacker board :)

You can turn it off on the MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, DFI, and Foxconn boards.
11-05-2008, 04:22 PM
sulu17

x58 board and IC7 965

Hi Guys,

I just got this combo and am trying to overclock it but i am not having any success.
I read the tread but I am still confused.
Can anyone walk me through the steps?

So far I enabled overclocking feature intel X58 board and enabled turbo mode and raised to turbo mode multi to 30 for all 4 cores.(Vcore to 1.35).I am just trying overclock the CPU using the multi and leave all of the other settings at default for now.

However in windows the multi is still stuck at 24, even with prime running.

Please help :)
11-06-2008, 01:43 PM
Astratuner

Drwho? Apperently Intel didn't say something right if you ask Bith tech:

They say:

QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35V: This is poorly worded by Asus - it should read uncore or QPI/memory controller voltage so not to confuse it with the actual memory voltage. Increasing this is also necessary as it helps overclock the base frequency as the uncore area overclocks increase in relation to the CPU core overclocks. This voltage is tied to actual DRAM voltage - the two are directly connected on the motherboard. You'll need to increase this to keep the CPU safe.

While Asus and Intel (rightly) scare everyone (read: uneducated) into thinking that 1.65V on the DRAM voltage should be the absolute limit before you reach for the fire-blanket, all that's really needed it to obey this: keep the CPU uncore voltage within 0.5V difference of the DRAM voltage and there's no problem. Over this potential difference and you’ll greatly increase the chance of CPU death, but it certainly won't happen instantly in a big ball of fail fire if you make a mistake.

DRAM Voltage - 1.66V: This is the closest to the 1.65V the Corsair Dominator DIMMs wanted and it's within the 0.5V Uncore difference.

If you are familiar with Intel systems, the best thing to do is treat QPI frequency like you would Front Side Bus and cranking up the QPI also levies another advantage - increased memory frequencies. Because the Core i7 920 uses the basic 4.8GT/s QPI frequency there is no option available here to adjust it, so you don't have to worry about it, however being able to see what its "final frequency" post-overclock would be incredibly useful.

A little extra differential amplitude because Asus claims in the BIOS that it helps with overclocking and perhaps turning off some unused features like Virtualisation is worth it as well, but keeping the pre-fetchers and HyperThreading on will improve performance.

We found that enabling the HPET (High Performance Event Timer), or as Asus label it, APCI 2, is critical for keeping the clocks on Core i7 CPUs accurate. Without it turned on, the multiplier jumps around crazily if we watch CPU-Z, but with it on, the multiplier reading is solid and the clock frequency only jitters very slightly according to fractional variations in the base clock.

Note the most important thing: While Asus and Intel (rightly) scare everyone (read: uneducated) into thinking that 1.65V on the DRAM voltage should be the absolute limit before you reach for the fire-blanket, all that's really needed it to obey this: keep the CPU uncore voltage within 0.5V difference of the DRAM voltage and there's no problem. Over this potential difference and you’ll greatly increase the chance of CPU death, but it certainly won't happen instantly in a big ball of fail fire if you make a mistake.

Is that true? That's the trick Anandtech also mentioned but not shared with us yet at the moment.
11-06-2008, 02:57 PM
railmeat

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

I have a feeling Core i7 is going to be a let down for gamers.

i really hope not =( this is the reason i have a computer.work ALOT\drive my new 350z;)\check email briefly\overclock it\GAME!

i need something that is going to oc(not bench) easily\quickly and perform rock solid in games period. i940\new mobo\ram is the mid range winner here so far???

nice results all on the overclocking so far btw!
11-06-2008, 03:19 PM
irenic

Wanna share with you guys the performance of retail 920 and intel x58 board

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/19/...am1206rvd9.jpg

i'm using the stock cooling..:D
11-06-2008, 03:29 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by railmeat

i really hope not =( this is the reason i have a computer.work ALOT\drive my new 350z;)\check email briefly\overclock it\GAME!

i need something that is going to oc(not bench) easily\quickly and perform rock solid in games period. i940\new mobo\ram is the mid range winner here so far???

nice results all on the overclocking so far btw!

I used to have a 350Z, 600HP twin turbo but i crashed it racing :( , also had a Twin Turbo 1994 Supra pushing 700+ HP, now i drive a BMW, so slow!!!
11-06-2008, 03:35 PM
GAR

Quote:

Originally Posted by irenic

Wanna share with you guys the performance of retail 920 and intel x58 board

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/19/...am1206rvd9.jpg

i'm using the stock cooling..:D

Nice to see an Intel board overclock, i like the layout, but still no solid state caps :shakes:
11-07-2008, 05:57 PM
Drwho?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Astratuner

Drwho? Apperently Intel didn't say something right if you ask Bith tech:

They say:

QPI/DRAM Voltage - 1.35V: This is poorly worded by Asus - it should read uncore or QPI/memory controller voltage so not to confuse it with the actual memory voltage. Increasing this is also necessary as it helps overclock the base frequency as the uncore area overclocks increase in relation to the CPU core overclocks. This voltage is tied to actual DRAM voltage - the two are directly connected on the motherboard. You'll need to increase this to keep the CPU safe.

While Asus and Intel (rightly) scare everyone (read: uneducated) into thinking that 1.65V on the DRAM voltage should be the absolute limit before you reach for the fire-blanket, all that's really needed it to obey this: keep the CPU uncore voltage within 0.5V difference of the DRAM voltage and there's no problem. Over this potential difference and you’ll greatly increase the chance of CPU death, but it certainly won't happen instantly in a big ball of fail fire if you make a mistake.

DRAM Voltage - 1.66V: This is the closest to the 1.65V the Corsair Dominator DIMMs wanted and it's within the 0.5V Uncore difference.

If you are familiar with Intel systems, the best thing to do is treat QPI frequency like you would Front Side Bus and cranking up the QPI also levies another advantage - increased memory frequencies. Because the Core i7 920 uses the basic 4.8GT/s QPI frequency there is no option available here to adjust it, so you don't have to worry about it, however being able to see what its "final frequency" post-overclock would be incredibly useful.

A little extra differential amplitude because Asus claims in the BIOS that it helps with overclocking and perhaps turning off some unused features like Virtualisation is worth it as well, but keeping the pre-fetchers and HyperThreading on will improve performance.

We found that enabling the HPET (High Performance Event Timer), or as Asus label it, APCI 2, is critical for keeping the clocks on Core i7 CPUs accurate. Without it turned on, the multiplier jumps around crazily if we watch CPU-Z, but with it on, the multiplier reading is solid and the clock frequency only jitters very slightly according to fractional variations in the base clock.

Note the most important thing: While Asus and Intel (rightly) scare everyone (read: uneducated) into thinking that 1.65V on the DRAM voltage should be the absolute limit before you reach for the fire-blanket, all that's really needed it to obey this: keep the CPU uncore voltage within 0.5V difference of the DRAM voltage and there's no problem. Over this potential difference and you’ll greatly increase the chance of CPU death, but it certainly won't happen instantly in a big ball of fail fire if you make a mistake.

Is that true? That's the trick Anandtech also mentioned but not shared with us yet at the moment.

I am not going to comment on the opinion of every guy around the web ... just understand that many people think they discovered "the wheel" before anybody else.
We have an awesome product, and you can always find somebody who "think" he find the Jack pot.

i am not a marketing guy, I don't really look at the "wording", I am not native speaker ... it would be funny ... ;-)
11-07-2008, 08:43 PM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewolfs
Do any other boards support the functionality of disabling this 130W throttling, btw wtf is a smacker board .

Quote:

Originally Posted by bingo13

You can turn it off on the MSI, ASUS, Gigabyte, DFI, and Foxconn boards.

OK, lets say you want to keep the Overspeed Protection enabled. What is the 130 watts TDP? Does that translate into a vCore volt? I was looking at the P6T Deluxe bios from the pdf and only see the vCore setting. Can someone please help me with this. There is something I must have missed.

Also, I can't find the detail Intel processor specifications for the 920. What is the core voltage range?
11-08-2008, 05:10 AM
Blacklash

Anyone heard when the DFI X58 mobo supposed to hit retail in the United States?
11-08-2008, 06:33 AM
Postal Dude

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

OK, lets say you want to keep the Overspeed Protection enabled. What is the 130 watts TDP? Does that translate into a vCore volt? I was looking at the P6T Deluxe bios from the pdf and only see the vCore setting. Can someone please help me with this. There is something I must have missed.

Also, I can't find the detail Intel processor specifications for the 920. What is the core voltage range?

With a Max TDP of 130w set it doesnt take much calculation to decide where the limit is. If your using 1.3v then it will limit at a maximum current of 100A
11-08-2008, 06:20 PM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Postal Dude

With a Max TDP of 130w set it doesnt take much calculation to decide where the limit is. If your using 1.3v then it will limit at a maximum current of 100A

Thanks!

I have been doing more reading. I am starting to get a little knowledge.

What about C1E and Speedstep. Would you want to use one or the other or both? You can see I want to power down. I now use only C1E. Seems kind of redundant.
11-08-2008, 07:07 PM
Rol-Co

Long time no post , but new toy's :D

Asus rampage II extreme
intel core i7 965 extreme
2x 1gb ocz flex 1600
tuniq tower 120 with no mount just a stack of cd's on it for pressure

cine10 1.40v @ 200x20

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/cine10-200blk.jpg

full air testing 1m , Ht disabled 4 cores full avalible

max 1m @ 1.44v

http://www.rol-co.nl/hwi/4533-8.891.jpg

setup
http://images.hardware.info/usersys/large/005748-5.jpg

buisy testing :up:
11-09-2008, 03:38 AM
Chri$ch

Retail Core i7-920 + Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5

http://www.abload.de/img/3.8ghz-primecopyr6pp.png
11-09-2008, 04:06 AM
herderien

nice result !
what kind of cooling did you use ?
11-09-2008, 04:57 AM
Hornet331

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

Retail Core i7-920 + Gigabyte GA-EX58-UD5
*snip*

argh... again gigabyte with huge vdrop under load... 1,29375 in bios = 1,24375 under load. :shakes:

Thats the only thing that i dislike about gb boards... :(
11-09-2008, 05:10 AM
Chri$ch

1.29375v Bios = 1.264v idle / 1.248v load

but i think my cpu isn´t a 4Ghz CPU, if i change the multi from 19 to 20 then need it more than 1.36v to boot and it is not stable :(
11-09-2008, 06:32 AM
strange|ife

me want
11-09-2008, 09:03 AM
managerman

P6T Deluxe / Core i7 965 / 12GB RAM / GTX 260 Core 216 SLI / on WATER!

Hello All..

It has been a while since I have posted anything...but I have a few "goodies" I have just received and have begun playing with. I have attached some pictures of the benchmarks so far..

The "goodies":

ASUS P6T Deluxe Bios 0804
Core i7 965XE @ 1.45v
12Gb Patriot DDR3-1333 @ DDR3-1680 9-9-9-24 1.64V;)
EVGA GTX 260 Core 216 SLI Overclocked 705/1560/2200
2 WD Raptor RAID 0
Custom Water

Here is a summary of what I have found:

1.) So far I have a 4.2 Ghz overclock stable (so far) I am sure it is not Prime 95 24/7, but it has handled what I have thrown at it. I am running 12GB Patriot DDR 1333 @ 1680 9-9-9-24.

2.) Core i7 runs hot even on a custom water system....I am using the Swiftech Apogee GTZ 1366 with a 3x120 Radiator...At 4.2 the cooling is becoming overwhelmed about 10 minutes in to 100% load... Temps around 100C :shocked: I think I need a 4x120 radiator....will be looking into the Feser 4x120....

3.) Running 12GB seems to pose no problem.

4.) There are so many new options for frequency amd volatge settings...it is going to take a while to determine what to mess with and what not to...

More to come this week...

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...n/100_0556.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...n/100_0557.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...nch1Corei7.jpg

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...nch2Corei7.jpg
11-09-2008, 09:39 AM
Bootsy

Managerman I was going to ask where you got the GTZ 1366 block ,but 100c damn thats hot!! I think thats way to high for water cooling you might want to check the seating on your block. I sure as hell hope mine doesn't run that hot!
11-09-2008, 10:05 AM
1337633k

My 965 extreme and DX58SO will be here next week!
11-09-2008, 10:22 AM
managerman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bootsy

Managerman I was going to ask where you got the GTZ 1366 block ,but 100c damn thats hot!! I think thats way to high for water cooling you might want to check the seating on your block. I sure as hell hope mine doesn't run that hot!

Can't tell you where I got the block...;)

I have reseated this block on the cpu three times now...I think this is just a really hot CPU! It idles nicely at 47C 1.45V....but as soon as you load down all four cores and the four virtual cores, this thing heats up like a furnace! Maybe i am missing something...maybe it just can't take that much voltage at 4.2 GHZ??

-M
11-09-2008, 10:37 AM
GLENBOY

i think your temps are correct managerman, it seems with these new i7 chips that once the volts are over about 1.35 volt the load temps increse massively but although looks scary to see 100c temps, these new chips seem to handle the heat very well, thanks for sharing and decent pics as well
11-09-2008, 11:06 AM
splmann

Quote:

Originally Posted by jAkUp

100% air cooling :)

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4720/evgax58ry1.png

1.6 Volt Vcore :eek: on Aircooling ?? Please show me a Pic from your System !!!

regards

splmann
11-09-2008, 01:00 PM
Bootsy

Quote:

Originally Posted by managerman

Can't tell you where I got the block...;)

I have reseated this block on the cpu three times now...I think this is just a really hot CPU! It idles nicely at 47C 1.45V....but as soon as you load down all four cores and the four virtual cores, this thing heats up like a furnace! Maybe i am missing something...maybe it just can't take that much voltage at 4.2 GHZ??

-M

Okay thanks I will be stuck with air cooling when my parts come in this week guess I will have to keep the volts pretty low, since I dont have a 1366 waterblock:p:
11-09-2008, 01:13 PM
managerman

Here is 4.1 Ghz at 1.4V in Bios (vs 4.2 Ghz and 1.45V)

A little better temps...

-M

http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q...nch3Corei7.jpg
11-09-2008, 01:19 PM
Chri$ch

only 6min and then large FFTs ;)

try small FFTs and you will see 95°C or more again ^^

Edit: voltage update

http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/4091/01gu1.png
11-09-2008, 01:55 PM
pest

@Chri$ch

did you try to alter the other available voltages to attain 4Ghz stable, or are you just scared by high temps/vcore?
11-09-2008, 03:04 PM
Drwho?

@Chri$ch ... I thought it was impossible to overclock o 920 !!! I did read a lot of people recently saying that there is protection against OC ... WINK WINK ... (kidding)
Main stream people will enjoy their Core i7 920 at 2.66Ghz, but here, that 's a lot of fun.

All of you, feel free to post feedback on any article speaking about OC protection on 920/940.
you ll figure out as well that 940 OC better ... :-)
11-09-2008, 03:42 PM
T_Flight

I'm hoping to get my first Extreme CPU soon. I'm still not certain, but if everything goes well, and I don't run into any unforseen expenses I should be able to oder it on release day which is supposed to be the 17th from what I've been reading.

I also want to put it on a topline board, with high end RAM (3x2GB), and will run it stock for awhile to make sure everything is working as it should, then will clock it on air, and then will install my water loop, and see aht she will do.

My machine will be used for Flight Sims, and some FPS shooters, Folding, Video editing and encoding, as the hub for my home network, benching, running rocket motor flow simulations and design tools, music editing for video stuff, and may even be used as a game server if they upgrade to Fiber out in the black hole of a town that has been twice removed from technology.

It will take me a bit, and i do wanna do things slowly and methodically, but can't wait to see what it will do when OC'd. I also can't wait to put it online and help my Fighter Ops Folding @ Home Team. I'm hoping for 8-10,000 PPD with a single GTX280 on GPU client and multiple instances of the Beta CPU client.

This machine will be my world dominator. It will have to do it all. :)
11-09-2008, 08:52 PM
villa1n

Based on these OC's it seems like the 920 should hit anywhere from 3.8 to 4.0 depending on the chip, with under 1.3 volts! With that , i m wondering how much of an OC advantage the 940 could provide given the 200$ price difference, especially if the turbo mode enabled on all 4 cores all the time is substantiated...it would effectively make the 920 a 940... with the +1 multi? The ceiling seems like its going to be 4.2-4.3 on air anyways.. i dunno thoughts on this i guess is what i m looking to hear, or some numbers.. again to me it seems like a q6600 vs q6700 scenario..
11-09-2008, 09:28 PM
S_G

:slobber:

Any chance of seeing a Vantage run without PhysX?
11-09-2008, 09:33 PM
Rattle

wtf is the stock vid on these chips?
11-10-2008, 06:05 AM
Chri$ch

http://www.abload.de/img/4ghz-primecopyz08o.png
11-10-2008, 07:21 AM
NBF

Chri$ch, could you please confirm available memory multipliers on your retail 920? Are they only 6 and 8 as seem on ES chips?
11-10-2008, 07:23 AM
Chri$ch

Retail i7-920 have unlocked memory and qpi multipliers ;)

http://www.abload.de/img/p1000531kfnf.jpg

http://www.abload.de/img/p1000534ld9t.jpg
11-10-2008, 07:32 AM
NBF

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

Retail i7-920 have unlocked memory and qpi multipliers ;)

[IMG]...

[IMG]...

Thanks for your fast reply :)

That makes retail 920 very interesting for me :yepp:
11-10-2008, 11:18 AM
GLENBOY

thanks for posting some decent posts chri$ch, whats your early impressions of the i7 as i know you had some decent e8000 series cpus, it seems the only downside to these new i7 chips is the shear heatload they produce although in fairness they seem to handle the extra heat better than the qx's
11-10-2008, 03:15 PM
chuckbam

On the ASUS P6T-D you only have the option of 8x or 6x with the 920.

I have read that "increases in uncore frequency is not nearly as useful as increasing the CPU frequency. Intel optimized the uncore for power consumption"

http://chuckbam.com/i7_P6T-D/BCLK.JPG
12x is the C1E

http://chuckbam.com/i7_P6T-D/BCLK1.xls

http://www.viddler.com/explore/HardO...os/20/135.561/
11-10-2008, 03:21 PM
Chri$ch

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

On the ASUS P6T-D you only have the option of 8x or 6x with the 920.

Retail CPU?

Tried latest bios? (08xx)

CPU in the HardOCP Vid is an ES, that have locked multipliers ;)
11-10-2008, 05:47 PM
Khalmyr

I haven't heard anything about the Gigabyte X58-DS4, other than box pictures, which will apparently be the cheapest X58 mobo, since X58-UD5 is already cheaper than any of the Asus/MSI/Intel mobos I've seen.

No one has received a single sample?

I'm really looking forward to buy a Core i7 kit in December, and yeah, by then more mobos will probably have been released...

Has anyone tested one yet? can it get to 200bcl?

Another question is, any words from Thermalright on when they'll start selling kits for LGA1366? I don't want to buy a new cooler, and don't want to have to wait too long on the stock cooler of my future 920...
11-10-2008, 09:46 PM
Punisher!

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

On the ASUS P6T-D you only have the option of 8x or 6x with the 920.

Does this motherboard have the "override overspeed protection" option in the BIOS?
11-10-2008, 09:51 PM
GAR

Ok guys, can someone guide me on getting 3.2ghz stable, thanks. Should i turn turbo mode on, or off? I got a P6T and 920
11-10-2008, 09:53 PM
breathemetal

So when exactly does the 920 release?
11-10-2008, 09:54 PM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Punisher!

Does this motherboard have the "override overspeed protection" option in the BIOS?

Yes, it is the.. CPU TM Function.

http://chuckbam.com/i7_P6T-D/27.jpg
11-10-2008, 09:56 PM
chuckbam

Quote:

Originally Posted by GAR

Ok guys, can someone guide me on getting 3.2ghz stable, thanks. Should i turn turbo mode on, or off? I got a P6T and 920

All the turbo does is increase the multiplier from 20 to 21.
11-10-2008, 10:02 PM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by Khalmyr

I haven't heard anything about the Gigabyte X58-DS4, other than box pictures, which will apparently be the cheapest X58 mobo, since X58-UD5 is already cheaper than any of the Asus/MSI/Intel mobos I've seen.

No one has received a single sample?

I'm really looking forward to buy a Core i7 kit in December, and yeah, by then more mobos will probably have been released...

Has anyone tested one yet? can it get to 200bcl?

Another question is, any words from Thermalright on when they'll start selling kits for LGA1366? I don't want to buy a new cooler, and don't want to have to wait too long on the stock cooler of my future 920...

If you already have a Thermalright Ultra series heatsink then all you need to get is the LGA 1366 mounting bracket which they sell here.

In fact, Thermalright is getting ready to release an Ultra-120 eXtreme-1366 RT version of their popular heatsink.
11-10-2008, 11:57 PM
villa1n

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuckbam

All the turbo does is increase the multiplier from 20 to 21.

Is that the speed step option on the bios? turbo mode?
11-11-2008, 01:10 AM
OBR

Retail i7-920 have unlocked memory and qpi multipliers ;)

and Uncore multi? is still locked?
11-11-2008, 01:50 AM
Chri$ch

i think yes, because it is from x12 to x48 available ;) :D
11-11-2008, 02:07 AM
ol'norton

Everything in the bios as default. A slight bump in VDimm all other voltages stock. I then jumped the BCLK to 150, but it crashed pretty quick.
This is with stock Intel cooler. Hardware Monitor shows 20C lower than CoreTemp & RealTemp (Ambient room temp 28C)

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/8...faultoccg8.jpg
11-11-2008, 03:24 AM
WaterFlex

ol'norton
How did you calibrate sensors? Nice temps for stock cooler.
11-11-2008, 03:48 AM
OBR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

i think yes, because it is from x12 to x48 available ;) :D

OK, Unlocked multis are: Uncore (ICM+L3), MEM (6-?), and QPI ?

which bios on EX58 do you have? I will test it on my boards too ...
11-11-2008, 03:54 AM
ol'norton

Quote:

Originally Posted by WaterFlex

ol'norton
How did you calibrate sensors? Nice temps for stock cooler.

I didn't, it's just what both programs showed by default.
11-11-2008, 03:57 AM
WaterFlex

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Originally Posted by ol'norton

I didn't, it's just what both programs showed by default.

Just wonderfully.
11-11-2008, 04:00 AM
Chri$ch

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Originally Posted by OBR

OK, Unlocked multis are: Uncore (ICM+L3), MEM (6-?), and QPI ?

which bios on EX58 do you have? I will test it on my boards too ...

F2 and F3a, with both are the multipliers unlocked.

Uncore = x12 - x48
Mem = x6 - x18
QPI = x36 - x48
11-11-2008, 04:42 AM
stasio

Chri$ch,any link to DL this two bioses?
11-11-2008, 04:45 AM
Chri$ch

1 Attachment(s)

F2 is default Bios on retail Boards and F3a (GA-EX58-UD5) can you download here (Downloads / Bios)
11-11-2008, 04:47 AM
pcaddict

Excellent! ..results

http://images.uncyc.org/commons/thum...px-MrBurns.jpg
11-11-2008, 04:49 AM
stasio

Thanx Chri$ch,
F3d in test info
11-11-2008, 07:27 AM
Brama

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chri$ch

F2 and F3a, with both are the multipliers unlocked.

Uncore = x12 - x48
Mem = x6 - x18
QPI = x36 - x48

Is uncore voltage fixed at 1.2 V as default or is it variable?
11-11-2008, 11:56 AM
T_Flight

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

Thanks!
I don t understand why people would spread such untrue information. I think we need a BS meter attached to the profile :rofl:

We all need to get info from the sources who have first hand info such as yourself, and then help to spread the correct info so that we can null the BS. We also need to send e-mails to these places to retract false info.

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Originally Posted by GAR

Well, considering that all games coming to PC now are pretty much multi platform, ps3/xbox360/pc, games have not tested current hardware much, except for a few titles like STALKER CS, and CRYSIS, other than those 2 pc exclusives, all other games are console ports with some "enhancements", xbox 360 and ps3 will see life into 2010, ps3 should be staying till 2012 from what i have heard, so you can imagine games and graphics cannot change much, plus we have hit a wall in graphics somewhat, where there is not much to improve, maybe ways to render faster and better ways to optimize games and such..... My point being, dont expect much games to come out takin advantage of 8 threads, there is only a handful of apps that take advantage of more than 2 cores, yet alone games. Most games are still single threaded.

Not quite. Mnay mopre are coming out that are Multithreaded. Most flight sims benefit greatly from from these CPU's. There is alot that is done by the CPU in flight sims. This winter I bet Multithreaded titles are gonna become the norm, and another bet is within a year they will be haviliy multithreaded. We're into 64bit OS's being the norm now, and all current CPU's have already jheaded that way. Everything is going Multithreaded. It is as sure as Multicore CPU's are today. Those that can't code Multithreaded will find themselves obsolete and without a job. I talked to somebody about it today that does this for a living. He "grew up" with single threaded, and is having a hell of a time schooling up, and relearing how to do it efficiently.

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Originally Posted by Klarko

Is it just me or do these things overclock fairly well?

Not just fairly well...exceptionally well. Once we figure out how to dial in all these new BIOS settings, OC's will get higher. I'd be willing to bet 4.5 is gonna be easy on water. 4Ghz on the 965 Extreme's is a piece of cake. I've already seen the BIOS shots and they did 4 on stock volts and stock air. That was on a RIIE with 3 way SLI. It rocked!

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Originally Posted by flegg

According to Tom's Turbo Mode is only for the extreme edition. Don't know if that applies to the models being tested now.

Tom's posts alot of things, but that doesn't make them correct, and in this case it was very wrong. See Dr. Who's replies. Nobody knows this CPU better than the people who worked on it. Some like to think they do though.

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Originally Posted by Ghigo

From my understanding only intel board limit the chip :rolleyes:

Wrong! Absolutely false. See DrWho?'s re: 2 quotes below.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Slovnaft

basically: don't buy smackover...

:rolleyes: For the people that actually have them and have used them, they've said the exact opposite, and their OC's drive it home. There is nothing at all wrong with that board. in fact, it was generous of Intel to work so hard to make it a great OC'er. They didn;t have to include *any* Oc'ing options, but they did just for us. There are lots of people who will like that board. Telling other's not to buy does a diservice to Intel, and is rude. :(

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Originally Posted by Drwho?

I am to be VERY VERY clear, there is not Overspeed Protection, we have a BIOS setting to bypass the PCU control of Current and Power. On smackover, it is call "CPU VR Current Limit Override", and it will allow you to bypass the thermal and courant limites on the Core i7 920 ans 940. Who ever claim the otherway around did not read the specifications enough :) hehehhe
we have recommanded to the motherboard makers to follow our steps.
So, relax, and don't worry ...

Francois

Thankyou! I'm so glad you are here. Your info is highly valued and I know it's been alot of work for you to help keep good info out there. It's helped me a great deal,a nd is much appreciated! :yepp:

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Originally Posted by Movieman

I know, it's such a horrible board, the should just take and junk it right?
HMM, maybe not.. Mine has been at 100% load for the last 48 hours and is running like a champ and it ain't that bad considering it's on room air..:wasntme:
See any faster on air on this page? Yes, It's a smackover board I'm using!:D

http://en.ripping.org/database.php?cpuid=871

That should take care of the naysayers.

Quote:

Originally Posted by davewolfs

Do any other boards support the functionality of disabling this 130W throttling, btw wtf is a smacker board :)

Yes. Asus, Gigabyte, Foxconn, EVGA and others.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Drwho?

Toms is updating his OC : http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...e-i7,2063.html

Hopefully he'll update his website with correct info and read the directionbs next time. :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by breathemetal

So when exactly does the 920 release?

From what I understand the 17th is official. At least I hope that info is correct. There are some places selling CPU's and stuff, but you have to hunt for them. I won't post those places here out of respect for Intel, but they are around.
11-12-2008, 05:51 AM
deepsilver

http://img.3d-nexus.de/main.php?g2_v...serialNumber=1

http://img.3d-nexus.de/main.php?g2_v...serialNumber=1

I'm hoping to get my mainboard & ram tomorow. :)
11-12-2008, 06:55 PM
zlojack

Wow...I'm having a tough time deciding between the P6T Deluxe and the GA-X58-UD5

Both have yielded great results.

Is it true the P6T Deluxe doesn't do tri-SLI while the Giga does?
11-12-2008, 08:38 PM
T_Flight

I just got my i7 965 Extreme today. Going to order Rampage Too Extreme tomorrow, and will be looking hard at memory next. Might have it running sometime in the next 2 weeks or so...hopefully. :)
11-12-2008, 10:37 PM
slash777

Is 3.8Ghz possible with air cooling ( Noctua NH-U12P ) ?
11-13-2008, 10:54 AM
Gligy

Hi Chri$ch can you tell what batch is your 920?
11-13-2008, 11:09 AM
Chri$ch

3836a381 ;)
11-13-2008, 11:26 AM
Gligy

I got today GB EX58-UD5 also and i7 920 3836a772.
So I was curious is your also Costa Rica. :)
Thanks for sharing!
11-13-2008, 11:47 AM
golfjam

Quote:

Originally Posted by NBF

Thanks for your fast reply :)

That makes retail 920 very interesting for me :yepp:

Quanto q o i7 custa ai no Brasil??
11-13-2008, 11:56 AM
NBF

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfjam

Quanto q o i7 custa ai no Brasil??

Its not available here, and wont be anytime soon. Price is always awful anyway :p:

Ill just buy mine in US and ask somebody to ship it to Brazil.
11-13-2008, 03:42 PM
Bootsy

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Rampage 2 965 @ 4227 on air. Still teaking and awaiting LGA1366 waterblock.
11-13-2008, 06:13 PM
T_Flight

:confused: Huh? 4628.5 watt TDP? :eek:

What's up with Core Temp? That can't be right.
11-13-2008, 06:26 PM
stasio

GA-EX58-UD5 - F3e
11-14-2008, 04:43 AM
kubinek

hello,
I see here very good results also with 3x1gb and 3x2gb Trible Kits.

hase someone informations about performance, 3x1gb to 3x2gb trible kit's ?

it is nearly the same?

and the Dimm-Slots it is still the same problem as it the board had Asus rampage extreme (A1 and B1) ?
11-14-2008, 06:13 AM
pinto

Quote:

Originally Posted by T_Flight

:confused: Huh? 4628.5 watt TDP? :eek:

What's up with Core Temp? That can't be right.

It's the way that asus use to prevent the throttle, set a false tdp value :up:
11-14-2008, 07:08 AM
ap4lifetn

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1499/superpi2rt4.jpg
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/s...pg/1/w1440.png
11-14-2008, 07:08 AM
AuDioFreaK39

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinto

It's the way that asus use to prevent the throttle, set a false tdp value :up:

whoa, serious? :D
11-14-2008, 07:19 AM
GAR

Got my cpu to 3.2ghz with 1.19v will be going higher once my TRUE arrives saturday, or monday.
11-14-2008, 07:21 AM
GAR

What is this throttle i am hearing about, can someone please explain it to me, thanks.
11-14-2008, 07:26 AM
ap4lifetn

i went to 4.0 on stock cooler for a few minutes, i was idling at like 45-50C, and turbo mode still kicked in

i need a get myself a better cooler too
11-14-2008, 07:57 AM
Astratuner

Guys how does it happen that the faster clocked 4.2GHz does a tun in 10.4 sec and the slower clocked 3992Hz in 9.8??

Memory ???
11-14-2008, 08:03 AM
ap4lifetn

My turbo mode is on, so it kicked up to around 4.2 when i did the run, i have DDR3-1600 if that makes a difference

edit: that seems kinda weird. I think its my BCLK, mine is 200 while his is only 135

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