P6T already has SAS on board, and it's SLI ready. No problems at all using both on the P6T.
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P6T already has SAS on board, and it's SLI ready. No problems at all using both on the P6T.
I'm expecting it to be near $400, but I still want it :(
The voltage measuring points are a very good idea. Looks WAY too expensive for me though. :(
lol :D :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
Like to show me how exactly you would fit 2 double height cards in SLI and a pci-e 8x sas controller on the P6T? You could always use the 4x the slot at the top but that kind of takes the point out of it. This board has much better slot spacing.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
gigabyte did that, remember?Quote:
Originally Posted by Revv23
it worked pretty bad tho, so they stopped it :/
Again, the SAS is ***ON BOARD*** on the P6T. You don't need an SAS card on the P6T. The board alrewady has a controller chip. The ports are on the back. You've got all the room in the world for 2 double wide cards on the P6T as you wouldn't have anything else in there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
Well the onboard is fine if you don't plan to use more than 2 SAS drives! I wouldn't imagine the Marvell SAS controller would be any good for more than running 2 10k SAS drives. The current generation Seagate Cheetah 15K.6 drives push nearly 170mb/sec each. This is why the need for a seperate SAS controller card for some. Also even if we wanted to run the likes of a hardware raid controller for SATA2 on the P6T it still wouldn't work with SLI. Unfortunately Asus screwed the PCI-E slot arrangement up on the P6T deluxe. I guess some of us will have to either wait for this board or the workstation version of the P6T with a more widely spaced PCI-E slot arrangement. It's a shame too since the P6T deluxe was looking like a really nice board.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Precisely. Onboard RAID controllers don't offer near the performance level of hardware RAID cards; moreover, you're unnecessarily taxing system resources using integrated controllers. If you swap out mobo's, you lose your RAID array along with it. That's not the case with a hardware solution where the array follows the card to the new mainboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
I would like to think there is more to high end computing than 30" monitors and playing Crysis "maxed out." I love a good game too, but come on! $400 bucks for a mobo with only two 16 lane PCIe slots?! It didn't stop me from buying the Rampage Extreme, but it almost did. I'm glad Asus has chosen to broaden the appeal of its successor with a more versatile board layout.
Nice, but I think the socket area is way too cluttered for a $600 overclocking board.
Can anybody explain why board makers keep placing stuff near the socket area, if placed further away will this cause a loss in signal from the phase,caps etc perhaps?
Agreed the pci-e slots are messed up on the P6T (colors are cruddy too compared to the rampage extreme 2). #2 and #7 are better sli slots, imo. Leaving #1 pci-e for sound and #6 pci-e for "other" down the road. The overhang of the 2nd GPU in slot 7 over the connectors and over the edge of the mobo is "manageable". The slot arrangement on the Extreme 2 is good enough because using FC coolers on the SLI I can keep things slim enough to get the pci-e on either end, which is a workable alternative.
But that's my $.02. Can't believe the Rampage 2 gets a perfect blue and white color scheme and the P6T gets that color mess... Hard to believe they come from the same company.
Thanks for the preview Sampsa.. looking @ current state of their pace.. I hope ASUS India can give this board to me by next June :p:
So if i see this right you still can use a soundcard on the upper pci-e slot?
the vga card's cooler only goes down and takes up the 2nd pci slot right?
Actually they don't. There is an Intel spec called the "keepout zone" that mobo makers adhere to. There is a huge rectangle around these CPU's.Quote:
Originally Posted by DFI pit bull
The layout is just perfect and it has everything to be a crazy mb. All that can really be improved is the PCB possibly. That copper technology in new GB sounds very promising.
Yep... the layout is about as clean as it can get, the PCIe slots are nicely spaced to handle 3 double wide video cards if so desired, and I really like the location of the on board pwr/reset switches and voltage pots. Another nice touch are actual voltage test points in the same location.... very very nice.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
This is definitely gonna be my next board.
The question is will it make it to market in time? This is awful late in the game. Will this be ready in November?
ahum cough :shrug::DQuote:
Originally Posted by Astratuner
good point, but when you switch to a different board, dont you need to reinstall windows anyways and install different sound, chipset and whatnot drivers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mezzro
well its 2 different departments in the same company...Quote:
Originally Posted by Anemone
Lol wat D=Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
All the foreign backers are running away. Currently at 0.75USD. I remember when it was 0.98USD. Nehalem is going to be expensive now.:p:
Some pics for handjob boys :)
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We will bundle 3D Mark Vantage with this MB :-)
ooOOooo
too bad no digital pwm? i don't like vdroop....
Actually I'm more concerned abot all the transistors etc that aren't on the top-side socket area of the mobo, because if they're not on the topside then there are probably a bunch on the bottom side, like my EVGA 790i FTW, which has transistors and resistors galore right in the way of my backplate. THat means if i tighten the HS retention too hard, it will pinch a resistor and cause board to FF. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DFI pit bull
yeah appears i spoke too soon! stupid world economy!Quote:
Originally Posted by MomijiTMO
believe it or not Vista completely does away with this! I've gone through a handful of boards and what not and all I've had to do was uninstall sound software and video drivers after booting with new board. Then simply just reinstall Intel motherboard drivers, video and sound. Works like magic! I've even gone from ICH7R to ICH9R and Vista still booted fine off my raid array with the ICH raid drivers! XP's reinstalling the OS is a thing of the past for new hardware.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
pmp,Quote:
Originally Posted by pmp
Any chance we'll be seeing this board ready for primetime at official i7 release? By the looks of the revision on the board, looks like a 1.00! So perhaps it will be ready once NDA is lifted! Great news if so! No doubt it'll hurt the wallet but will be worth it!
Anyone got an answer please :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by Astratuner
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Originally Posted by mikeyakame
Vista can work between multiple chipsets, but you will not see the best performance until you do a "repair" or fresh install to get it to properly do away with the old chipset drivers and use the correct ones.
The boards looks awesome, i bet the price will be also. Hopefully they can keep it under £300, looking unlikely though.
Sure it will be ready @ worldwide stocks before NDA lifts up. Besides, don't get messed by PCB revision - it's not a MB revision in fact :)Quote:
Originally Posted by mikeyakame
We need a board with a socketed northbridge...and of course a source of NB's :D
Hey guys, I was wonder, Should I Update my Motherboard with this one. I currently have the Asus Maximus Formula SE Running with Intel Core 2 Extreme QX9770. I believe I paid $279 for my Maximus. Your Thoughts?
Sure, but you have all your data intact. I think most people have more HDD space occupied by data than OS and app's. Takes much longer to restore all that data -- or do comprehensive backups, as opposed to incremental, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by saaya
So the only way is to buy a PCI-E soundcard or none at all?
since you can't mount a PCI one here right?
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ASUS Rampage II Extreme - First Look
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/512/r2enbhs2sgj3.jpg
How fast? Imagine a cheetah sprinting for a gazelle after devouring a case of Red Bull. Actually, that has more to do with the 3.2GHz i7 overclocked to a healthy X.XGHz (Ed: Sorry, not yet!) with a few gigabytes of Qimonda's finest running at a leisurely 2200MHz. Yeah, we broke the 1.65V memory guideline, but there is a trick to it without causing permanent damage to the CPU, although our benchmark programs are crying foul right now. To be honest, this board does bring out the best in the new i7 in a very easy manner once you learn the tricks of the BIOS.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3428
regards
hmm too much time on the Discovery Channel huh :pQuote:
How fast? Imagine a cheetah sprinting for a gazelle after devouring a case of Red Bull....
AArhg!! ASUS or Gigabyte, ASUS or Gigabyte, 16 phase or Copper...
Now tell me you don't believe in SHC?!
http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/1010intel1.jpg
http://plaza.fi/s/f/editor/images/1010intel2.jpg
Ok, Core i7 Extreme Edition and Rampage II Extreme under test with SF3D... next table are Kinc and elmor benching :)
Well,
Awesome board..... and you got the right beer as well:yepp:
Cant wait to test one of those.....the beer, or was it the other way around?
Cheers :wave:
ASHaahah the SHIRT is my favorite part! :rofl::rofl::rofl::ROTF::ROTF::ROTF::D
the sound card doesn't fit in lol
SICK SICK SICK Board Sampsa. Good luck to all of you guys! Always exciting times with new HW :clap: Can't wait to see pics and scores from the 4 and 5 unit monsters :up:
looks like a new cooler from Thermalright
Asus Rampage II Extreme X58 (Retail)
(Source: xfastest.com)Quote:
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Thanks again Chri$ch. I seem to be saying that on a monthly basis ;)
thanks mate!
But I'm still worried about the black PCI X1 slot and the coolblock.
That way no soundcard could get put into?
I really hope they fix this issue.
Whats that suspended PCB next to the NB?
Asus has some steep competition up ahead the new x58 motherboards are looking like battle royal but Rampage Extreme II has a good reference base on its older brother we'll just have to see the numbers to see if it can surpass its predecessor.
Oh it will. It's just a matter of them pricing it to where enough people will buy it and make it noticed. If only the elite can afford it then you'll see a bunch of P6T variants being OC'd.
On the heatsinks I doubt there will be any changes. These things are already boxed up ready for release. They are probably already sitting in warehouses by now. What you see in those retail shots are what we're gonna get.
The soundcard that comes with that board is more than sufficient. It was never designed for aftermarket cards. These boards are crowded. It's a miracle they could get everything on them with the new larger socket and still keep the ATX form factor.
This one didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by T_Flight
Huh? Was it changed? What I read was it was slightly larger, but the bolt pattern was the same. Is that no longer the case?Quote:
Originally Posted by Frodin
From the pictures, you can see that it's slightly larger, and therefore not ATX. The ATX form factor adherence seems to be decided by the size of the board:
Although the hole pattern should be part of the spec as well(?), didn't care to check. I guess most midi tower cases that enthusiasts buy will fit the board anyway, as it's only slightly larger.Quote:
Originally Posted by http://www.formfactors.org/developer/specs/atx2_2.pdf
Yeah that had me worried, becasue I told some poeple it would fit and wanted to correct that if it wouldn't. In my case I have a case that is the largest around so fit is no problem, but I didn;t want others to get that thing and then find out it wouldn't fit. That would be a real downer. That assumes that they choose it.
Alot of people are waiting to see the prices on these things. They've got to break soon. I know boards like this will be expensive, but i hope they don;t jack the price up so high that many won't want it.
I'm also eyeing that EVGA board, as well as the P6T variants. I really like this board though. Come on Asus, don't let me down, price this thing right, and we'll all put this thing in the record books. I'll be OC'ing in the water and single GPU class. :)
yeah, it looks like its a little bit wider than standard ATX, but only by a few mm
Gunna want to try this baby out : D