my striker ii extreme arrived today :D
but with bios 0402.
if anyone find bios 0507 or 0504 please contact me.
thanks.
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my striker ii extreme arrived today :D
but with bios 0402.
if anyone find bios 0507 or 0504 please contact me.
thanks.
Mine is shipping now, but the memory I forgot to order at the same time might be lagging behind by a bit :)
Excited to see what this puppy will do with my 9650.
I wanna know, do this 790i s OC good with Quad-Cores?
here is a review from OC3D doing some very high FSB clocks with 790i
overall they seem impressed with their board (well except for price :D) hehehe
http://www.overclock3d.net/reviews.p..._motherboard/1
Nice review, nice RESULTS!!!
Suddenly everybody stopped posting here...
What happen? Everybody got the eVGA and are building your new rigs right now?
Should recieve my XFX tomorrow or on saturday. Will post some results then. :)
boards still not here... this is going to be a torturous wait..
Price is wayy to high, this is crazy, with the economy the way it is, i dont see how people are paying so much, and retailers charging so much
Just found this!790i
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...MESE:IT&ih=018
Where did anyone order this ASUS Striker II Extreme 790i from in the usa?
What would overclock higher on this board 4x1GB or 2x2GB, keeping in mind that 2x2gb sticks are going to be rated slower to begin with due to density? This product http://www.ocztechnology.com/product..._ready_edition looks nice for it, but it is only avail. in 1gb sticks. What do you guys that have run nvidia boards lately with 4gb think?
tired of waiting for Striker... :( just ordered the EVGA board.
honestly, it's probably for the best. I remember when quads first came out and the 680i was teriible at clocking them, EVGA gave out free new revision boards... Then, when 780i hit, EVGA gave a $70 upgrade path to it from the old 680s.
Can't say I ever remember Asus taking care of it's customers so well. So the bottom line is that the Asus is gonna cost $150 more (and will have more bling) and the EVGA board is gonna take care of me if anything goes wrong.
I think the EVGA is the smart purchase at this point
(do we all appreciate how I'm justifying the EVGA purchase since I was too damn impatient to wait for the Striker???)
On ASUS site it has a press release today stating the striker II extreme is being offered today at North American retailers.
LOL
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.p...nufacture=ASUS
ASUS are funny.
Hahahahahahahahaha!!!! ASUS thinks Im gonna pay $470 for a motherboard! Give me a break!!!!
What a Dissapointment! Look what they say on their press release
"The ROG Striker II Extreme is currently available through ASUS North American dealers. The introductory MSRP is $469 USD"
Wow, eVGA here I go! With $470 I will be able to buy a motherboard and a kit of RAM.
ASUS must be crazy after they had such a low popularity with the first striker, now they want like $100 more than the first striker... HELL NAH!
So.... anybody ready to empty their pockets? BTW, how much did you people in Europe pay for the motherboard?
You think thats bad, the cheapest 790i in the country at the moment is at $555 AUS! i really want to get it from newegg, but they don't F@#$ing ship international, $350 US, and the conversion rate at 91c, man ill be saving over $150 bucks... Be nice if i knew someone in the states. Aw well will have to stick with the 780i.
i heard that 790i boards will sell in mid to high $300s
so just wait a little longer as retailers are :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::banana::b anana:s and will price gouge and take advantage of the situation
this really pisses me off :mad:
Wow, and I thought I was dealing with bad Retailers hahaha, sorry for you buddies in AUS.
Well I think we will all have to either go eVGA! or wait. Hopefully dinos is right and they are just waiting for the full-money-pocket guys to purchase it then probably lower the prices.
But hey! if they take a long time to lower the prices, forget it! Nehalem coming up (new socket) so that makes every single 775 motherboard USELESS!! make sure you dont spend an eternity waiting for a price decrease!
I ordered the EVGA...
Not having to wait longer and pay lots more.. on top of how well evga treats their customers it was an easy choice.
I payed 256€ for my XFX, think that is okay. Still very expensive for a motherboard.. :p:
one of the shops here told me their buy price
i am right
they are just cashing in
if stock gets sold too quickly next batch will almost certainly jump in price and knowing how tight our distributors normally are it's not looking great
there are websites in australia which facilitate purchases in US >> these retailers have to understand that if they :banana::banana::banana::banana: around too much the business will go to Mr.Newegg and others
everyone who has this, have you noticed the vdrop issues again??
Can anyone provide some information on the performance of RAID and hard disks in general for this mobo? This is an area NVidia's chipset have been fairly weak in.
TIA
i have two raptprs in raid and runs like a hell ...
hi OBR,
which you use for the board?
9.64?
How does the chipset fusion block work? Does it really help keep the temps down on the N/S blocks? And are you guys and gals even using it on water??
Thats totally true, last year with the Striker Extreme I remember they sold out in like 15 minutes and they took almost 2 weeks to get more. ZZF took 1 week but they always ran out faster.
And yes thanks to those people, probably the mobo wont lower its price. Poor S2E.
Err, yeah, in America we use that kind of phrase to indicate something bad. Context seems to indicate that OBR was happy with the perf though.
Sigh, I may just have to pick this thing up :D. What's funny is that newegg has been selling out of DDR3 ram over the last couple days, prompted by sales of the 790i boards I'm sure.
Yeah, I was being a smart-ass. I figured he meant good...but just felt like tossing in some sarcasm.
man, these look the dogs...
Come on Nasgul did NForce steal your girlfriend or something? Because I see you bashing Nforce on BPC, OCN, and now here. Come on already it is just a motherboard not the end of the world. I have had problems with my eVGA 680i many times but it was from bad RMA's and not getting a good fixed replacement board.:down:
I couldn't agree more.
Stop being a fanboy and actually appreciate the product for what it is. Sorry its not just another 965 copy.
I for one like the looks of this board, but want more results :p
Got my EVGA board today... been a while since I've been on an nVidia chipset. Taking a while to get her going :( cant wait to start benching
OMFG ur right ........ WTF am pissed off dino looks like my money will be going os .....
http://www.staticice.com.au/cgi-bin/search.cgi?q=790i
:down:
After 3 of my asus stikers 680i blew up in a week asus can suck my **** before i pay $600+ for a mb from them agian..... EVGA all the way
Let's get back on topic.
What's your favorite brand of memory for this mobo? GSkill? Corsair? OCZ?
Anyone tried with two 9800GX2s yet (although there are no drivers available lol) ?
I love G.Skill, nice kits and support.
Hate corsair cause they use Elpida on most memories and their RAMs are very VERY expensive.
long time since I've been on a nvidia board... what volts are what?
SPP = ?
MCP = ?
thanks
I am running on Corsairs + Teamgroup 1800MHz 4GB and everything is great ...
Here is with GX2 ...
http://i31.tinypic.com/9avnnr.jpg
and here complete review of Striker II Extreme, is in Czech but pictures and graphs dont need a translation :
http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...0409&Itemid=43
ive heard the asus board still has fsb holes with the latest bios? :/
how bad is it? are there many fsb holes?
SPP = SouthBridge
MCP = MCH ( NorthBridge )
Expected to be honest.
The Striker was a mediocre board, sometimes it would treat you nice and work fine, sometimes it'd be a pita and kill you slowly.
At least I hope ( for Asus's sake ) that the Striker II Extreme is less buggy.
Don't know yet... I'm out to buy a nF790i mobo...but this time I'm not going to be a guinea pig or take the plunge without seeing stuff first.
I'll wait patiently for the rest to take their chances on various nF790i boards first... and then I'm going to chime in... :D
patience is a virtue they say ;)
I have maped FSB holes on nF680/780 Asus Striker, Striker II Formula but on this nf790 there are not usual holes like before (400mhz for example) , i can set any FSB without problem ..... my OC is 550MHz without holes, but i am testing only 45nm cpus ... 65nm Kensfield cannot to be overclocked, in BIOS is some problem ...
just found this
"The NVIDIA nForce 790i SLI chipset is comprised of two parts. First is the System Platform Processor (SPP), analogous to Intel's Memory Controller Hub (MCH) or "Northbridge", and second is the Media and Communications Processor (MCP) that provides nearly the same functionality as Intel's I/O Controller Hub (ICH) or "Southbridge."
so SPP = NB
and MCP = SB
why is EVGA giving me such low NB voltage options? :(
can anyone translate this please... :)Quote:
UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách
and this site please: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...1&limitstart=5
there are useful infos for me, but i can´t read this :(
SPP = NB
MCP = SB
Because you don't need more prolly...:rolleyes:
With 680i it was different, though eVGA 780i was also only up to 1.55 I believe (don't shoot me if I am wrong). I needed there only 1.45 NB voltage for 450FSB with 1200mhz on the ram with a Qx... 790i seems to need even less voltage according the reviews... though I'm holding out on this one till the dust has settled... :D
Finally someone did at least one test on RAID performance. I'm guessing that was for RAID 0. They really should have done a CPU utilization test for the RAID controller, makes a big difference knowing how much CPU is being used.
From another review I saw, CPU utilization for non-RAID was on par with Intel's and much better then the 780i. I imagine since RAID 0 is so simplistic we can expect similar improvements.
Thanks OBR.
BTW, do you have any experience with an NVidia reference 790i board and how it compares to the ASUS?
I posted up my first round of numbers here;
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=181308
An E8400 @ 600FSB 5.4Ghz :banana:
The Duo is very strong with high FSB.
vdroop on EVGA board is terrible...
vcore bios set = 1.55
vcore windows idle = 1.49
vcore windowls load (prime small ffts) = 1.42
ok. please translate:
and this site please: http://pctuning.tyden.cz/index.php?o...1&limitstart=5Quote:
UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách
EVGA is better than ASUS in max FSB?
what was your max FSB with the ASUS?
webwilli -
UPDATE: Na naší dnešní testovací desce Asus některé funkce nefungují správně a nebo vůbec. Potvrzuje se tedy má obava, že všechny funkce nového Control panelu využijete pouze na referenčních základních deskách
New Nvidia Control panel (6.10) dont work correctly with this Asus board ... it is fully working only on referrence boards (XFX, eVGA ...)
That part of article is about a FSB strap changing, on first pictures are best MEM performances ... FSB is 400MHz and mem/fsb ratio is 2:1 = mem performance is BEST ...
On next picture is second rule broken, FSB is 400, but ratio mem/fsb is higher the 2:1 = mems performance is very bad!
last picture is broken first rule, FSB is higher then 400 (and strap in NB was changed to compatible mode), but mem /fsb ratio is 2:1 ... but mems performance is also very bad ...
result: if you want the highest mem performance, you have to find best combination of strab in NB and ratio fsb/mem ... but best performance will be with fsb around 400MHz fsb ...
Asus board is great with NO undervolting, Loadline cal. works perfectly!
OBR,
I just picked up a 790i and 9800GX2, but am concerned about a CPU bottleneck.
Would you recommend an E8500 (@3.8) or Q9450(@3.2)?
get an E8400 mate and put the gained cash in the Ultra 120 eXtreme cpu cooler... and clock to 4ghz...
so whats the feelings, are people liking the reference boards or the asus board better?
if not big difference I think the ~$100 saved is worth it...
how bout a quad at 4.0 ;)
But seriously, no striker in US... What gives?
webwilli and another guy i talked to said there is an fsb hole around 400fsb, and that was with 45nm cpus afaik. but they didnt use the 0507 bios
correct me if im wrong, but thats not vdroop.
vdroop is the delta of idle vcore and load vcore.
in this case the vcore is way low in both cases meansing the board undervolts quite badly around 0.5v
vdroop is 0.7v in this case, which is higher than the intel spec i think...
so its both, bad vdroop and bad undervolting :/
and why would you want 2 extra cores?
its only usefull in benchmarks and videoencoding, and... heating your room and burning extra watts increasing your electricity bill :lol:
it is not depend on linked or unlinked, but on real ratio (you can see it in cpuz, everest) but easy way is with linked ...
I wonder why the egg doesnt have any on stock when NCIX has almost run out of them...
Ncix is based in BC, Canada and Newegg is based in California.:shrug:
But why would the Canadians sell it before the Americans, I'm not sure..
Edit: I just an e-mail from an online e-commerce company who I placed a pre-order for the asus 790i ultra informing me that Asus delayed shipments of their mobos. Hopefully this delay does not apply to newegg or clubit.
My educated guess would be that they delayed the mobo so that they are released along with the asus en9800gx2
Disappointing.
Let me rephrase this a little FROM: I have had problems with my eVGA 680i many times but it was from bad RMA's and not getting a good fixed replacement board.
TO: 1 bad eVGA 680i motherboard, with 3 bad replacement boards. :hehe:
lol Nasgul
can a MOD here please give nasgul a custom title
nvidia motherboard hater :D
At C1 (Base Memory Detect), my EVGA 790i is hanging (damn I hate that incessant beep). The mem volt light is orange, both of which lead me to the RAM. No matter which slot I use with which stick (either and/or both), it looks like either my board or this Cellshock PC3-14400 is DOA (both sticks? hard to believe). I don't think its that this board doesn't like Cellshock, since IIRC there is someone on these boards who is also using this combo.
To be sure it wasn't CPU related as I just got an E3110, I also tried my X6800. Same results for both.
Resetting CMOS does nothing.
Removed everything non-essential.
Banged head against wall.
Anyone have any ideas or am I doomed to RMA land on what was supposed to be the savior of my 680i troubles it replaced. :shakes:
It already did, release was suppose to be on the 18, but w/e I really dont care about it now. The press release on the asus site made it all clear that this waiting was not worth it.
Anyways guys, anybody had any trouble with the famous CPU INIT problem? or any other boot problem? RAM voltage issues or anything?
@ canislupy:
I had the exact same prob. Same board, same ram
The board isn't giving the ram enough volts to boot. I had to go buy a POS kit of 1066 ddr3 to boot with, get into the bios to raise the volts, everything fine since.
Update to bios po3 - seems to help, but I'm keeping the back up kit of ram just in case
ARE YOU SURE ;)
have a look at vince's 5.9GHz 2v benchmarks with a quad
is that heavy enough for ya :p:
read up a little on it here
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3265&p=3
Kris touches on it
Quote:
The EVGA 790i also uses a true 6-phase PWM controller, where many other boards may make use of 4-phase controllers designed in such a way as to appear to be native 8-phase solutions. Supply-side capacitance has been significantly increased and the main +12V input capacitance has gone way up from only 470uF to 2000uF. This helps overclocking as some cheaper PSUs have higher allowable tolerances when it comes to input current ripple. We say this knowing full well that beyond a certain point additional capacitance matters very little. Often times larger capacitors are used in order to take advantage of their lower equivalent series resistance (ESR), a specification that has a great deal to do with how quickly the capacitor can react to sudden load changes and provide current precisely when needed.
Higher efficiency allows for cooler components at higher currents and less energy used by the systemCode:Motherboard PWM Comparison
Intel
Spec 780i 790i Notes
Loadline (mohm) 1 +/- 0.1 0.93 1.01 Higher loadline values create more droop
Max Icc (A) 125 165 220 High current output supports higher overclocks
Max Overvoltage (V) 1.6 1.8 2.0 Higher voltages allow for extreme overclocking
Output Ripple (mV) 10p-p 9p-p 6p-p Less peak-to-peak ripple means "cleaner" power and more stable overclocks
Thermal Drift (mV) +/- 4 +/- 3 +/- 2 Tighter tolerances means that the circuit is less susceptible to variations in component temperatures
Phase Jitter (ns) no spec 390 180 Less jitter means smoother, more stable power delivery
Efficiency 75% 82.4% 83.6%
We have listed a few of the more important PWM specifications in order to compare the differences between the 780i and 790i processor power systems. These are just a couple of the more measurable improvements made to ensure ample processor power delivery under even the most demanding situations and to help minimize the detrimental effects of supply-line switching noise and de-stabilizing output ripple. Overclocking places tremendous demands on the power delivery system and without this strong foundation, even your best efforts are sure to fail (particularly in the case of long-term overclocking).
NVIDIA also recognized the need for a more capable power subsystem cooling solution due to the tremendous current draw of 45nm CPUs experienced during aggressive overclocking. The heatpipe has been extended to encompass both sets of MOSFET banks, including an extra segment of fins used to close the circle and provide additional surface area for maximum heat dissipation. The heatsink assembly is made entirely of aluminum, except for the steel casing used to hold it together, and the included fan can be used to provide active cooling when pushing the board to its absolute limits. The fan speed can also be manually adjusted in the BIOS if you find the whine at full-speed to be a little over the top.
I'm sorry, I don't even know who Vince is....he did that with a reference clone 790i Ultra board? If so, that's amazing....the earllier 680i and even the 780i boards didn't perform THAT well.
I'm surprised that with the way boards are made these days that the reference board still doesn't have aluminum caps.
Vince = kingpin
best overclocker in the world :D
how can you not know vince :p: j/k
read this thread the benchmarks are in there :)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=178546
That was an informative article...makes me wonder if the Striker II Extreme's 8 phase power is a "fake" and no where as good as the reference design's.
Nice read!
I want to hold off on going DDR3 mainstream but this is making me want to buy a 790i now...I just ordered a DFI X48 T2R and a 9800 GX2 too.
IMO Reviewers tends to write in favor of the product they are currently reviewing, giving it the benefit of the doubt.
Just a little extract from another article, the Asus P5E3 Premium, again from Anandtech, and you will know what I mean:
6-Phase EVGA PWM: March 18th, 2008
"Because of this, the proper design and implementation of a well-developed 5-phase solution can often outperform a lesser 8-phase solution.
The EVGA 790i also uses a true 6-phase PWM controller, where many other boards may make use of 4-phase controllers designed in such a way as to appear to be native 8-phase solutions."
http://www.anandtech.com/cpuchipsets...spx?i=3265&p=3
8-Phase Asus PWM: Date: February 20th, 2008
"ASUS' power delivery system is among the best in the business at this time. An ADP3228 PWM controller commands an 8-phase solution, made up of low-DCR, solid ferrite-core Yageo inductors, and ultra-low ESR Nichicon capacitors."
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3229&p=2
Of course, these are merely my observations. Take from it what you will, but I often look for the facts and stats, and less on the reviewer's opinion.:)
Recieved my XFX today! I will post some results later. :D
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/..._zubehoer1.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/..._zubehoer2.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...d_komplett.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...nschluesse.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...connectors.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...x_cpu_area.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/.../xfx_slots.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...0i/xfx_mcp.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...0i/xfx_spp.jpg
http://www.gravedigga.de/gravedigga/...fx_luefter.jpg
Good luck flunkflix :)
And btw, how can you NOT know who vince is? xP
BTW, I can see people who bought the SIIE are pretty busy OCing... I see no pictures from them lol! would like to see some :)
having a hard time booting into OS with mem frequency in unlinked mode... I can run my ram @ 1800 no prob at 450 fsb in sync mode, but if I drop my fsb to 400, I can't run 1800 in unlinked mode :(
Anybody having any luck with this? Help me!!! LOL
just bought a evga 790i !!! cant wait to get it...now the next buy is ddr3 ram, what do you guys recommend?? i will be using a q6600 for overclocking fun..i am new to ddr3 so any advise would be greatly appreciated!!
the best there seems to be out right now is the Cell Shock 1800 (theres a thread on it in the bandwidth section). Corsair's 1800 CL7 seems to be doing well too
If those kits are too expensive any kit with micron gtr/gts will do
go have a look around in the bandwidth section - theres alot of discussion on DDR3 right now and kits that have the micron chips
C mon guys! no point on buying such expensive RAM! You are already DDR3 future-proof, get a good 1333mhz and wait for the high-ends to come down in price...
Also, dinos and ppl with S2E boards, whats up with BIOS 503 and 504? I heard they are REAAAALLY good, are they really thaaat good?
Are you using the PO3 bios?