yeah the ones my freind got say 2.3 on the, as well.. they must have changed something then i guess.. sucks
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yeah the ones my freind got say 2.3 on the, as well.. they must have changed something then i guess.. sucks
Yes i think the 2.3V were Elpida. The 2.0V are powerchips like mine.
ahhhhhh okay well he sent them back to newegg twice now and both times got them back with the 2.3v... so i guess maybe they switched them out..or you have to go with the 1066's to get the good ones.
Not sure if 1066 is the good ones. Only if they are rated to 2.3max.
Because if they are 2.5V then Elpida again i think.
Damn I was just about to buy these...think I will still give it a shot.
Some more benches for you: (2.1V)
Winrar
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/9kvtcsytjtujk0tcuzma.jpg
32M@PL=7
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/pou2mohtuiy7ghfcdapi.jpg
Everest Latency
http://www.imageshack.gr/files/xzrzwmr67yfpf302wi31.jpg
Since you guys have a lot of experience with this kit. Do you guys think that running this kit w/ a q6600 is ideal?
I had 4x1 ballistix (ddr2 800) doing 420mhz 1:1 and I couldn't get anything else really stable over that. I had to pull a lot of volts, i think 2.3 or 2.35 and they blew out after 6 months of use.
My quad is capable of 3.78ghz + (I won't go past 1.55v in the bios) and I'm looking for the best bandwidth I can get for a 24/7 machine.
BUY? YES/NO?
EDIT: If I you guys think its worth it in my case, what is an ideal ratio to set the ram at? Most people here do not seem to be doing 1:1.
Crap Spyrus....nice:clap:
Mine RMAed kit should arrive here in a few days.....DDR2-800....hopefully going to get the results you are :thumb:
What transbooster and AI clock twister are you running? BIOS version?
I would grab a kit and run something likeQuote:
Originally Posted by Synthetickiller
470x8
DDR2-1129 (or whatever straps your board offers)
Bios 0907, Twister Moderate, Dram Static Enabled
Thanks. Sounds good. I'll have another new toy to play with.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by binormalkilla
Cool, thanks man. My kit should arrive on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Mine are rated 2.1 - 2.3v. I'm only looking for a moddest (420-445 mhz) OC, so I hope they work out.
All right my kit is here. Time to start testing! (fingers crossed....)
Well these would POST at the same settings as my Esoteria (DDR2-1129 5-5-5-15) at only 2.16V, but it wouldn't even boot without much more voltage.....I tried going as high as 2.35V and couldn't get it to fully stabilize. I got errors in 32M SuperPi within a few seconds......
I dunno, I guess the batches at newegg just aren't as good as others got.
It passed memtest86 (one pass) @ stock settings 4-4-4-12 (the rest was auto) @ 2.1v.
What is the minimum number of passes that can be claimed stable?
Something crazy like 8 hours with memtest. Run 32M SuperPi to find the errors fastest.....either that or HCI Memtest for Windows. THat takes quite longer than SuperPi too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthetickiller
@binormalkilla put a fun over them maybe they are getting hot.
If the sticker says 2.3@4-4-4 then are not the same like the other good batches.
Have you a cpuz? They should not have week/year also on spd.
Well I tested the replacement kit and it's a bust....it can't even run DDR2-940 5-5-5-15 with 2.3V. Fail.
BTW SPyrus I have a 120mm fan over them....angled toward my NB.
wow omg thats nuts syprus with your kit of these.. wish i could find some that did that
Thank to this thread I bought this kit and registered at xs!
Does EVO stand for something more than heatspreaders?
I bought the kit without hs because it was 30€ cheaper. Based on Spyrus' comments these chips should be decent?
Not interested in oc:ing them until I get my e8400 - there's little gain in more bandwidth with e2140.
Using watercooled heatspreaders so I guess voltage won't be a problem? These chips stay pretty cool though.
My heatsinks are not even warm to the touch. You'll have no issues with these. Even though mine are the 2.1-2.3v, they do well enough for low end OCs. I am not sure how much you can get out of them. Quads don't seem to like high FSB w/ low multi, so maybe someone w/ an e8400 can comment.
Yeap that photo has powerchips and 2.0V is the rated for 4-4-4 operation.
You should get good results on those. With a fan over them is better of course.
I do not know the pcb layer is the same though, but maybe it won't make any difference
No need for a fan anymore ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
what ^^^^ ?? hmmmmmm i would love a set of these but i def would want the 2.0v ones.. so far i have seen three sets that came from newegg that were all 2.3v none did over 1000...
Yeah I know it's weird but I'm a watercooling freak. The fact is that many components may not need water cooling. I didn't know these chips run this cool - if I could choose now, I'd buy EVO sticks and keep them air cooled.
I don't think I'll have the guts to use crazy voltages (I could with water) because I have no clue if these 2.0v powerchips will have some kind of electromigration effects like micron d9?
Unfortunately, as Spyrus said, mine chips don't like cl4 either. I was planning to use the e8400 I ordered at 4.05g and keep ratio at 1:1 = 900 ddr and use tight timings but seems like I'll have to use dividers and higher mem clocks with cl5 to get more bandwidth...
E: Do they really pick better chips for more expensive memory or am I just that stupid that I paid extra 35€ for nothing? 6400 CL5 1.9V kit seems to have the same chips. But I doubt that all 800-cl5 sticks will run 800-cl4 with only 0.1v increase? Or do they? Of course I don't assume that all 800-cl5 kits use these powerchips but on the other hand people seem to get 2.3v sticks even when they pay more...
They should do 430-440@4-4-4-12 like mine but it going to be slow
CL = 5 is for those. Waiting results.
Hmm, this is nice memory but i'm having troubles with my mobo, had always issues with it (combo mobo was a mistake). Yesterday when i read Spyrus requesting for results i tried 375 fsb with mem @ 562.5 (1125) and it seemed to work ok at 2.0v cl5 (same timings as in screenshot but 5-5-5-15), passed superpi 32m so i left orthos mem stress running over the night and it failed. So today I was having trouble to pass spi 32m at 2.0-2,2v, only 2.3v. Seems to be stable, orhos running for 2.5 hours. Don't know why memset shows 570mhz, the real clock is 562.5.
http://qh2yvg.blu.livefilestore.com/...JO1w/geil3.png
If you are running on a non-default multi then memset report wrong dram mhz.
Confirmed on X38 look a picture above at 8x multi and divider 5:6 instead of 9x multi.
Hello guys!
I recently ordered these ones:
http://www.alternate.es/html/product...wTechData=true
The specification at the home page say they work at 2.1v - 2.3v range, are these babys the "good ones?" (with the best chip i mean...)
They are 2x 2GB PC8500 (5-5-5-15) but i have no clue how to find out the chip they are using before order them, any clues?
Hey ToMeGuN im glad to hear that! Thanks a lot :up:
Now i will have to decide for a Mobo, since the DFI is not available atm! How is that Gigabyte you have there? :D
Most have the 800@4-4-4 ones but i think those can be as good.
And what did he tell you?
Hello again ToMeGuN, thanks for the info once more!
Finally i had to order the Formula Rampage! Hope i dont have your Maximus troubles on this one :)
I'm in a similar situation to yours, but dual core not quad - my mobo absolutely hate having 4 slots populated. I preferred to have more than faster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Synthetickiller
But now that I can have both, i'm going to put a good 2x2gig set and see the limits of my 6600.
Let me know your results.
I haven't had a lot of time to really work with my computer OC wise. Honestly, the highest I've gotten my quad ever was 3.825 ghz stable. I do not want to pump in more than 1.55v as I don't really see myself selling it anytime soon and if I do, it will probably be to a friend and I don't it to die.Quote:
Originally Posted by RealTelstar
Even if I loosen timings w/ these (5-5-5-15), I can't even get prime95 stable w/ 420x9. I am not sure why. Since I have some tests coming up, I can just sit infront of the computer and let prime run 8 hours. I am doing stability testing w. these @ 4-4-4-12 @ 2.25v. These don't hold water to the previous version of this kit. From what I've seen although I am running 1:1 and q6600s don't like super high clocks. I'm cooling on water, so you won't see much magic coming from this chip.
Since I cannot really get anything higher than 410x9 right now, i'm just going to keep pushing the timings. I might work down to 3-3-3-9 if thats at all possible. That will probably occur tomorrow if my current stress test passes 8 hours. Then I'll start working on the sub-timings.
I also have some vdroop which is slightly bothersome. 1.55v in bios vs 1.504v under prime. I know this chip could do 4.0ghz, but probably under a voltage that isn't 24/7 safe. I have one of the older G0s from last summer. I don't think they OC as well, so compared to most people's chips, my doesn't really do that great of a job for 24/7 use. Just keep that in mind.
If you aren't looking for more than 3.6ghz or so w/ these kits shouldn't give you a problem. They are now 100 on newegg after MIR. I payed 130.
I've had pretty bad luck with ram, so maybe someone can post thier OC w/ a "good" kit.
I could get NOTHING stable w/ anything over 400mhz @ 4-4-4-12. Everything had to be 5-5-5-15. Even at 410x9, which is just stupid.
I was able to get 4-4-4-10 @ 3.6ghz prime stable 9hours +. I am going to try and crank down the timings as anything close to 3.71 ghz requires such loose timing with my kit that its pointless.
Just a quick overview.
frequency = 400
RAMv = 2.3v
Timings = 4-4-4-10 (all subtimings auto right now)
I might try to crank up the volts a little and go for mayeb 3-3-3-9 or something close @ this speed.
http://i27.tinypic.com/rap0zd.jpg
This is just as bad as my Gskill kit that I got a while back (the ddr2 1000 kit). Both seem to OC like a toaster trying to cook a turkey. I miss my old Crucial ballstix. Now that was a good kit. I probably should have just bought the crucial ddr2 800 2x2 kit as that one WOULD kick ass compared to these kits if they do OC like the 1 gig sticks did.
I don't mind my quad @ 3.6 as its fast enough for any game, but its disappointing that I had 3.78ghz stable on prime w/ my old kits which populated all 4 slots. Next time, I'll send more cash for dominators or the ballistixs kits.
I'm glad everyone else who got the kits rated @ 1.9v got a great OC'able kit.
Has anyone really pushed the 2.1-2.3v versions at all yet?
Edit: I had 3.71 ghz stable @ 4-4-4-12, 2.3v for 41 minutes before failing prime95. Only one core failed. No BSOD. 412x9 or so (my bios doesn't round the numbers, its a strange bios, thanks a lot asus, lol). This is pitiful considering I have enough v through the CPU to be stable since I've pushed it harder than this. Very strange indeed. Next time i get ram, I'm dropping more cash on it as these "cheap" kits never work out too well for me.
Hello guys!
Finally got my computer up and running but having problems with ASUS!
The system used to boot with the default settings, but suddenly it wont boot if there is ram @ slot 1-2 (if i put them @ 3-4 system boots normal!)
I tried to put manually the ram setting and leave them auto but it wont boot :(
Anyone with these ram and Asus Formula Rampage by any chance? (i have Geil Evo One 2x2Gb PC8500 5-5-5-15 - 2.2 ~ 2.4v)
Try memtest and tell me if you sticker say 2.0V on hsf
I ran memtest from windows and got no errors, it ran for 1hr but tonight i will leave it much more time.
Sticker says 2.2v-2.4v (at website they are supposed to be 2.1-2.3!)
As i said i tried to set the values manually at bios but wont boot, i dont know maybe the mobo is the problem?
The weirdest thing is that it was working a week ago :/ (i was waiting for graphic card so didnt used it for a couple of days)
I sympathize for you, Synthetickiller...RAM being dictated by the game of luck makes speculation a true time sink.
Did you purchase your kit recently?
Hello folks, please, could anyone sum up for me which voltage should be read on the sticker in order to have the best GeIL Evo One 2x2GB 800MHz CL4 ones?
Because I'm in good relationship with a shop, and maybe I could ask them to pick a good kit for me, if you tell me what to check.
Thank you so much.
Giacomo
Look at the pictures in this thread at early posts.
There you can see the ram module itself with the sticker on heatspreader
that denotes 2.0V and only that.
Any other (1.9-2.0,2.1-2.3 etc) usually is not as good.
Thank you. I hope my shop will be glad to pick a good kit for me. I'll let you know how this story ends.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spyrus
Giacomo
I got the EVO ONE about 2 months ago. Its holding @ stock fine. I really can't push it at all and kind of gave up due to lack of time I can dedicate to it. The Gskill was from December.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogeta
I game, but since I'm running nothing new (playing homeworld from 1999 right now), there's no issue.
I think I'll either get dominators next time or some micron chips as I have had very bad luck with powerpc chips as of late.
I might try to OC it better in the summer when finals are over. I think I might pop the gskills back in and try them @ 4-4-4-15 or so around 840. The new EVO ones (at least my kit) really hates anything over 820 which is pitiful considering its 800mhz ram.
Evo 2 x 1mb kit = 943 @ 4 4 4 12 ~2.1v or 1100 @ 5 5 5 15 ~2.1v
These are maxing cpu settings not the rams max, not bad for such a cheap kit.
I get the same mb's at either setting so i run the low latency. 10k mb's / 39~40 latency
Very good for CAS 4 indeed!
Okay, I've already read this thread and still confused which is the 'best' Geil 4gb kit: this one (Evo One C4 2.0), Evo One PC8500 or Esoteria PC6400? Atm, I have DFI Lanparty UT P35 T2R and Wolfdale E8200 waiting for 4gb kit :D
maximus formula and it won't boot past ddr2 800 any Idea on some bios setting?
sample bios settings
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9
FSB Frequency : 333
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 110
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-800
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 45 There is no 42
Write Recovery Time : auto
Read to Precharge Time : auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : auto
Write to Read Delay (S) : auto
Write to Read Delay (D) : auto
Read to Read Delay (S) : auto
Read to Read Delay (D) : auto
Write to Write Delay (S) : auto
Write to Write Delay (D) : auto
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : lighter
Transaction Booster : Disabled
Relax level: 0
CPU Voltage : auto
CPU PLL Voltage : AUTO
Dram voltage 2.0v can be per sticker on ram1.9v to 2.25v
North Bridge Voltage : 1.53
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.40
South Bridge Voltage : 1.050
Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.63X
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67X
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : DDR2 REF
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : DDR2 REF
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : DDR2-REF
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.5
Anyone, can give any comment about my question above? I really appreciate for the suggestion before I'll buy 4gb kit.
Not many have the Evo 8500 so i think Evo CL4 and then Esoteria are your best bet, but only if 2.0V is on sticker like mine and the reviewed ones.
So, is the evo one worth the money?
Its the 800mhz cl4 i could be interested in.
I bought a 4x2GB kti, and I'm trying to get these clocked up.....only at DDR2-950 5-5-5-15 so far. Fairly decent bandwidth for that speed though. I'm at 2.12V ATM, but I may be able to run lower. At this strap (or any other) at 475 FSB the next step up is DDR2-1140 (which won't even post.)
I tried all the way up to 2.35V to get it to POST and it wouldn't.
I have both the PC8500 Evo's and the PC8500 Black Dragons, both 4x1 GB kits.. each has no problem scaling up to ~1180mhz with less than 2.3v.. Great RAM, runs cool to the touch even at 2.3v.. I would recommend to anyone, tired of dealing with RMA's for running daily OC on Micron.
Does your Evo RAM run cool to the touch while running Prime blended? Mine don't.......fairly warm TBH. I'm running something like 2.16V actual at 950. I would like to get higher......tonight I'm going to try 423*8 with tighter tRD and DDR2-1129 (and whatever my other ratios yield)Quote:
Originally Posted by CL3P20
They have pretty good airflow on them..but yes, there is noticeable temp increase under Blend load *as to be expected*..still toying with stable tRD and PL on the mobo..Asus X48 is needing some different MCHv ranges than my X48-DQ6.
IMO- the RAM is running in a Linux based rig, that is used for encryption and HDD analysis..so it gets loaded up pretty well. I swapped the RAM out initially, after having some issues with 2x2 Gskill kits...the Geil has been solid since day one.
I turned the voltage down to spec (roughly, still at 2.03V) and its almost totally cool to the touch. It warms a bit on Prime, but not anywhere near as hot as 2.15V.
I have the 4gb kit Evo one 800 cas4 with the 2.0v sticker and i am running them at 1066 cas5 with 1.86v in the bios (maximus formula). I havent run any stability tests but i play games and do other stuff on my pc, without any problems. Howerer my system will bsod or reboot it self, when it is sitting at idle. This is not happening every day, maybe 2 times a week. Can anyone with the same board as me, post any bios settings that will help me get them 100% stable? I am not familiar with all the settings in the bios of the maximus formula (such as the Transaction booster, GTL reference voltage, PLL etc).
Thanks in advance for any help!
I rarely run memory much over spec. I'll probably even still run at the 800Mhz CAS4 on the 8GB kit I just ordered of these :) Has to be better than cas5 on DDR2-667.
GE28GB800C4QC - Thats what I ordered
Hello everyone.
I'm making an upgrade and I'm interested in this kit of Geil. It will be overclocked because of small CPU multiplier (7x - E6550) so it needs to work at least @ 916MHz (CL4 or CL5) or 1000MHz (CL5). I can get "GE24GB800C5DC" ones here. Which chips has Evo One anyway? I see very nice OC results, but I'm bit worried 'cause lot of RAM modules have one chips when they come out, and others after some period. For example Transcend JetRam has many letters (N, P, E...) for different types of chips. Talking about Transcend, is it smart to buy 2x2GB 800MHz of Transcend with "N" or "P" letter on module or 2x2GB 800MHz CL5 Geil Evo One? Price is very similar and Transcend is nasty overclocker too. :)
I forgot to say that MoBo is Gigabyte P35-DS3L.
Thanks in advance.
these chips dont seem that impressive crucial tracer red's clock to 1266 6-5-6-16@2.1v
1266 6-5-6-16@2.1V
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture036.jpg
for comparo
800 4-4-4-12@1.8V
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture038.jpg
1066 5-5-5-15@1.84V
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture039.jpg
1143 5-5-5-15@2V
http://img.techpowerup.org/090207/Capture040.jpg