because.........I love nickle plated and glowing fan =D
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because.........I love nickle plated and glowing fan =D
do you also have a TRUE to test? would like to the difference.......
Quote:
Originally Posted by angelreaper
I tried, but with the ordinary Xigmatek HDT-S1283: I put: LGA775 Bolt-Thru-Kit with Screws & Springs to the cooler: http://www.thermalright.com/new_a_pa...775_bolt/1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by demiurge
There is the TRUE аnd Xigmatek in boxes:
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2060/x3pw3.th.jpg
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7592/x17vq0.th.jpg
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/7913/x18zl3.th.jpg
I tested with two Titans to 2000 rpm fans.
Lets the Mortal Kombat begin:
Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme with two Titans to 2000 rpm fans:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/5776/x11le3.th.jpg
The result:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/4954/tr2pg7.th.jpg
Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme with one Titan to 2000 rpm fans:
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/6250/x13oh8.th.jpg
The result:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/504/tr1mb8.th.jpg
Xigmatek HDT-S1283 with one Titan to 2000 rpm fans::
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/8830/x15qm3.th.jpg
The result:
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8416/xt1gu1.th.jpg
I think this is a good cooler. I hope I was useful:-)
If you want to see the full review, visit:
http://hardwarebg.com/forum/showthread.php?t=119884
n00b here just want to share some pics and screenshots...I wish I could help you folks but I barely know how to put together a pc, just not my day job.
My drama are posted at forum.uabit under IP35 PRO build story
new pictures of the Abit IP35 PRO w/ E8400 cooled by Xigmatek RedScorpion S1283
http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/1...tip3uq1.th.jpg
http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/1...tip3us7.th.jpg...as you can see here, its more like orange than red---for a red scorpion---kinda misleading...but Xigmatek does say white LEDs.
Next pictures show some rubbing action..don't know if there will be any heat transfer
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/8...tip3bb7.th.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/321...tip3kf9.th.jpg
the one positive thing about this Xigmatek is this spoiler that cools the mosfets???...but the spoiler is very loose...I need to glue it down (is that a bad idea?) or maybe use those plastic ties:rolleyes:
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/664...tip3oc9.th.jpg
I wonder if I could add a fan here to "pull" hot air from the CPU cooler.
Any thoughts?
Any suggestions/ideas/thoughts (negative or positive) are welcome...I'm still taking baby-steps in pc building:up:
btw its quiet enough I sometimes forget its "on"
http://img178.imageshack.us/img178/3...rentwy0.th.jpg
angelreaper which mobo do you have?
Asus P5E:Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
http://asus.com/products.aspx?l1=3&l...73&modelmenu=1
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&highlight=P5E
thanks a lot! seems close enough to the TRUE but a lot cheaper.
Quote:
Originally Posted by angelreaper
Yes, this is a TRUE:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by demiurge
About the spoiler, I didn't even bother installing it. It was so loose, it just constantly fell out.
Had I installed it anyway, it didn't actally deflect the air onto the mosfets. The mosfets on my board are a little farther to the rear of the board.
If you have a heatsink over your mosfets, and the heatsink is tall enough, it'll get air from the cpu HSF, so no need. I guess your milage may vary on the deflector thingie, but it was no use to me.
yeah for the 27$ these are on newegg right now they are a steal.. they are not quite a true but imo for nearly 1/4 of the price by the time you buy a fan for the true
mine just came in today ill post up some results as soon as i can...
How is the clearance, kinda hard to tell from the pictures.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelreaper
what clearance did you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
Between the copper on the p5e and the HS fins on the S1283.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelreaper
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/6...2822tw1.th.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3...2814no2.th.jpg
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3...2810lg8.th.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/9477/eve1kb8.th.jpg
http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/4381/eve2up0.th.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2756/ska1uf9.th.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4849/ska2jt2.th.jpg
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2370/ska3ik0.th.jpg
Thanks, just what I needed to know. Looks like a pretty tight fit in that one though.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelreaper
better get this:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/lgbowiscsp.html
or this:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/thlgbo.html
You better be prepared guys, I just heard a rumor that Xigmatek will release a S1284 soon :D
That is 4 heatpipes in 8mm with HDT... I think TRUE will get some serious competition!
/Thomas
I hope they it comes with a bracket vs push-pin... Xigmatek would not respond to my emails about replacing the push-pins with mobo-bracket, hence I'm looking for replacement.:shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thomas FJ
Yeah, they should release a backplate solution...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
A reason could be, that the harder mount would create problems with base deformation as earlier seen?
Anyways, you should be able to use Thermalrights 775 backplate?
/Thomas
i appreciate you guys posting all this information, i have been unable to get alot of my "extra curricular activity's" done with my current schooling situation, trying to become an IT guy here. :) Soon as i have a spare moment ill have to get some tests on the red scorpion and TRUE i have here.
What kind of temps are you people getting compared to scythe infinity? I'm thinking about changing to HDT-S1283. Reason for that is infinitys almost impossible assembly/disassembly with gigabyte S775 mobos. Especially 965P-DS4.
Spawn32, won't the line method of thermal paste require you to mount the S1283 with the fan blowing up towards the PSU or down towards the GPU?... On my 780i board, with a Q6600 CPU, mounting the S1283 with the fan blowing out the rear exaust leaves the exposed heat pipes parallel to the line method required for the CPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by gundamit
I'm banging my head against the wall trying to figure out how to mount this thing for the best effect. :shrug:
Thanks for the help your Sticky on aircooling is awesome!
Spawne32 cleared this up in another post... I had to install it fan blowing up, but installing an exhaust fan at the top of the case should make this orientation acceptable.
Also in case anyone gets the Thermaltake 775 bolt-through kit, use the bolts, the back plate from the kit, and use the brackets that come with your Xigmatek... just rip off the plastic pins. I've seen a few posts about using the TRUE bracket which you have to bend or loosen to put on the Xigmatek. Don't bother with this as the bolts work great in place of the pins with the stock Cooler brackets.
Forget the red Scorpion, heres a real upgrade:
http://www.xigmatek.com/product/air-achilless1284.php
:up: Looks very good.Quote:
Originally Posted by fng77
I can't wait until it is available. Does anyone know any release details, especially in Australia?
Much obliged,
David
I think its more important when they are going to release it in Sweden :yepp:
He, he.;)
No I havent seen any release dates anywhere, I hope its gonna be soon to.
Quote:
Originally Posted by delewin
By the way, Theres another thread about this cooler here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=180972
Someone is probobly gonna post here as soon as its avalible in stores
in regards to the backplate for the Red Scorpion S1283 (came with push-pins), Xigmatek ran (past tense) a promotion in February, to replace those push-pins.
But after talking to a very nice gentleman from Xigmatek, he said he will honor my request, providing I have proof of purchase on Feb (sorry forgot the exact window dates) and the UPC, Xigmatek will send me the support brackets.
Thanks to Newegg for saving all my receipts :up:
you'll get support brackets same as those for TT ?
Makes me wonder how much of a performance boost will the TRUE get if they made a HDT version for it.
I'm thinking of picking this up for a AMD cpu. You think the shallower channels are going to impact the quality of the mounting on the simple model?Quote:
Originally Posted by angelreaper
Ledanek
>> I think this is a good cooler. I hope I was useful:-)<< can you tell me the thickness of the RS base in mm. I have a zalman 9500 (sig) and wonder if i can use the same mount system. drill 2 holes in the cross plate for the S1283 screws ?
thanka
It uses larger diameter heatpipes than the others. For 26 bucks plus a TT smart fan,i'm keeping a lapped E6750 at 8x475 24/7 with my eVGA 780i. 59c prime95 small ft's the entire run over 8 hours @ 1.46 vcore. It's worth it and kicks ass IMO.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by GripS
If you would read the whole article, you would see that they used a different fan than they used on the Ultra 120. They don't know the specs on the fan they used on the TRUE.
Yes, no problem:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by BrowncoatGR
Great work everyone, good information :up:
One thing I'm still dabbling in is how to work out its theoretical performance with a given fan setup and how much efficiency they lose past the power spec., when they're only rated for 130W TDP. S1284 is very likely to be better than the S1283 just due to the TM and fan though, as long as you have good base contact.
Off the top of my head, thats only the second accurately working E8400 DTS I've seen here, exactly as the working ES samples at load with a TT120. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
You can order Xigmatek S1283 and S1284 from many online places, but make note the S1284 they list and don't describe or picture is the HDT-D1284 (around 39 EUR mark), not the S1284 replacing S1283.
for the price you pay it's a kickass product :)
indeed. I've got a S1283 and it works very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by TEDY
...n00b question: you're quoting because its bad or is it good news?:confused: it's a serious question coz I'm new to this and I'm taking baby-stepsQuote:
Originally Posted by KTE
E8400s' thermal sensors have a big, super-widespread problem of not functioning. Yours appears to be working and that's a good thing :)
actually the fan came with RS1283 has higher pressure....thats what I was told.
I am waiting on the S1284 too might replace one of my RS1283 and see how it performs.
thank you thank you thank you thank you :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
I'm after some info which is v.hard to grab, are you willing to do some testing for us please?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cpl Ledanek
The Xig-S1283 is a pretty good air cooler, from the top bunch, so I'd like to see your full load temps with Prime95 Small FFTs for say, 30 minutes, on the Xig you have at these settings, each time:
E8400: 333x9 3000MHz @ 1.200V
E8400: 333x9 3000MHz @ 1.250V
E8400: 333x9 3000MHz @ 1.300V
Nothing else changed from stock.
If you're willing to do it, try to list the ambient case temperature and ambient room temperature please, it helps greatly.
I haven't listed higher voltage because it's 45nm.. but if you don't mind for 30 minutes, then 1.350V and 1.4000V again at stock speed, full load comparison, will also help greatly in judging temps and what to expect with an E8400, with some good air cooling. :up:
It doesn't have to be 1.3/1.35 etc exact, just near those values.
Here is during my prime95 small ft's run @8x475,59c entire run @ ambiant 64F. with TT smart fan turned up. This screen shot is at 6 hours.:clap:
With these temps I don't need a better HS and for 26 bucks plus a TT smart fan this solution is all you need.:D
And with due respect, the reviews done at frosty tech are done in an enviromentally controlled room, the testing done "here" is not on the same level and would only be good for compairing one HS to the other,this also assumes similar ambiant temps when the testing was done.:shocked:
I needed 1.4v (CPUZ under load) to go 3800, but my load temps never went over 58c with stock Xigmatek fan and 23c ambient. Oh, and the fan is spinning at 1350rpm, not the advertised 1500 @ 100%. My PC is now very quite compared to the Freezer 7 PRO that was in there before.Quote:
Originally Posted by chevell
8 hrs on inverted ATX.....
http://img397.imageshack.us/img397/5...8hrsjl9.th.jpg
Now, I'll try regular ATX, or as someone says, "right side up."
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/8...0097hp3.th.jpg
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/3...utesoq0.th.jpg
see you in 8-10 hrs....
When is the S1284 going to be in retail?
2 hrs on ATX/ CPU side up:
http://img241.imageshack.us/img241/2...2hrsqf9.th.jpg
Well guys, ive finally been able to sort things out and get my review schedule back on track, the red scorpion review was just posted, it maintained the exact 14 degree temperature drop that the original HDT-S1283 did ;)
http://www.overclockerspulse.com/har...-s1283-review/
http://www.overclockerspulse.com/wp-...4/dscf1813.jpg
nice review
if i didnt have a true already i would pick up this cooler.
I just put the Red Scorpion in my PC which has an overclocked QX9650 in it...with the Zalman 9700NT my temps according to Real Temp 2.41 were about 45c-46c ilde at 3.6ghz with 1.264 vcore.
Now with the Xigmatek, my ilde temps are 41-42c with same 1.264 vcore. I am also giving temps based off of the first boot so the Arctic Silver 5 hasn't cured yet...I think it will eventually settle around 40c idle....it's most certainly a better cooler than the much much more expensive Zalman 9700NT.
Side Note - I am not using the stock Xigmatek fan..I'm using a Scythe 110cfm...the Slipstream fans from Scythe are amazing...100cfm at 37db!
I have a true, but my temps are too high so im thinking about getting a s1283 to try my luck.
For some reason i can move the true with my hand while installed and i think thats why i have 47~48 idle temps on a Q9450. I want to prove my luck and check if push pins are better x_x'. I tried the ocz vendetta 2 but the pins were of bad quality i just ended up returning it, it pissed me off every time i had to install/uninstall it.
You just need some mod to apply more pressure on your TRUE, or even lap the base.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbsx
i lapped my true and aplied more pressure with a spacer it knocked of 5°
But... i shouldnt be getting such temperatures, 46~48 idle? ._. i even applied the artic silver 5 correctly so i dont know whats wrong here. I think ill just blame the thermal sensors inside the processor. This is my second q9450, i had to exchange the first one because it came with 2 non working sensors and i was getting 36 idle with a thermalright xp-90, now with this new q9450 im getting 46 with a true. Im like wtf?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bail_w
See, i can't get this...it's 159cm tall, and my case supports max 150cm.
:-(
i am pretty sure is the contact issues which imply to pressure.Quote:
Originally Posted by gbsx
Don't ever drop an HDT cooler on the floor by accident.
I did, and I had to order a new one.
The heatpipes popped fromt the base and the whole thing twisted, so now it has an uneven base.
70 at load with q6600 at 3.6 FTW...or not.
It's a zigzagtech now. hehe
My new one comes monday so I am going to experiment with getting the base lapped on this one to see if it fixes anything.
Here's Xigmatek HDT-S1284 Achilles review:
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/676326/+0
I received the replacement red scorpion for the one I dropped.
I used an Aero Cool Extreme Turbine fan. You know the so called 89 cfm one.
I also used the included TIM this time without lapping the heatsink.
All I can say is WOW! At 3.6 ghz running occt, my q6600 never goes above 60c.
Now I know bad things have been said about the fan I used, but it blows away the red scorpion fan by a mile. There is now good airflow blowing through the heatsink. There is definitely way more cfm and air pressure produced by the turbine as opposed to the stock fan for all it's worth.
I have no way of measuring, but I could care less. It's perfect now.
So if you want to make the 1283 even better, swap the fan out with the extreme turbine. It's a way better fan.
The included thermal grease seems to be better with this heatsink than arctic silver too. I don't get it, but it's all good.
Time to see how much higher over 3.8 I can get now that it's not croaking under the heat. It was hitting 70c before. 10c improvement in my book is great.
Just thought I'd share.
My room mate got this as I have a TRUE in my system and he hates to copy anything I do. However when he was installing it with at TR bolt thru kit, he made the mistake of not screwing all 4 screws one turn and moving to the next, when we removed the heatsink to check that there was even coverage of the cpu we found a large dent in the shape of a C2D heat spreader corner in one of the heat pipes.
So be warned, when useing a bolt thru to to apply a lot of pressure make sure you screw it down very evenly corner by cross corner or you may ruine the HS due to the softness of the copper heat pipe.
When I find my camera I will post a picture of it dent.
Yep! lol, this also happens with pushpins if one pops out from not seating them all the way. Of course now this is a non-issue for me.
The backplate is the way to go, and yes, tighten the screws evenly, or cry.
That's the downfall of HDT. You can damage the heatpipes if you're not careful.
To me though, it's the best heatsink I have ever owned. Especially with the better fan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by CadESin
man...and I thought this is common sense....
Mine did that with push pins also.
>>>Well guys, ive finally been able to sort things out and get my review schedule back on track, the red scorpion review was just posted, it maintained the exact 14 degree temperature drop that the original HDT-S1283 did ;)<<
Spawn, thanks for a great review. Do you think it would be a good idea to fill the space between the heat pipes and the aluminum support columns with thermal grease in addition to applying the line method you recommend ? Just to prevent any air from being trapped there.
Found this on applying TIM to one of these;
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=4
Interesting article. Notice he did not one attempt line across the heat pipes (perpendicular to the direction of heat pipes). Two drops or two lines always concern me about air being trapped between them as the TIM spreads under the heatsink ?
to answer your question, yes that will always help improve heat transfer, whether it helps temps, i dont know, its a common first mod to do on alot of coolers that have gaps or air spaces along the base or above the base where the heatpipes make contact
s1283 or 84?which one is better in performance?
84 scales higher because of more pipes, fins, and larger surface area. Dont buy it until revision 2 is released.
What about OCZ CPU Cooler Vendetta 2 or ultima 90i?Quote:
Originally Posted by Spawne32
Vendetta2 is great, just check the threads in this forum for results.
my base is coming loose on my 1283. i can now move the base some away from the pipes up or back down i was wondering why i had such bad temps.. then i took it off and put a razor on it and saw only the silver parts between the pipes were actually touching the cpu.. looking for something else now.. not sure ill buy another one of these or not
Got this HS myself to replace my old TRU and was kinda shocked that it performed 2-3C worse then my Ultra120-A. Reapplied MX-2 as my first mount was awfull and now temps were equal to those i got with the TRU.
Decided to add another fan to it to see how push-pull would work and got a 3C drop and almost 9C in maximum temperatures recorded by Real Temp during Prime95 :yepp:.
Here are some pics. Zipties FTW! :D
Only one fan, push:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...11hrsPrime.JPG
Two fans, push/pull:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101..._push_pull.JPG
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3089.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...l_IMG_3091.jpg
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...ziptiesftw.jpg
Hmm. Anyone using the Thermalright bolt-thru kit with this Heatsink might want to check this out.
Xigmatek bolt thru kit backplate:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/xig.jpg
Thermalright bolt thru kit backplate. Heatsink is not making proper contact with the CPU because of those damn things protruding thru the motherboard by about 3mm's.
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/10122/normal_tr.jpg
http://www.clunk.org.uk/forums/user-...pu-cooler.html
~10C drop in temps :eek:Quote:
By adding the FX-10 Backplate we have removed this protrusion so makeng better contact between the Xigmatek heatsink & CPU. So if you plan on using the thermalright bolt thru I'd advvise filing down the pillars so that they fit flush with the mobo . It's probably 2~3mm that want to come off. Ideally best solution would be to get the Xigmatek Crossbow I7751
I did it. And... OMG! I dropped 11C!!! I love this Xigmatek. :shocked::shocked::up::up:
http://ocidb.com/albums/userpics/101...od_12cdrop.JPG
OK, now that ive read this thread, ive decided to review my decision to get the HR-01 PLUS.
Since I need a good performing heatsink with low noise fans (yate loon D12SL-12 identical to nexus silent case fan) which one is better? Xigmatech Red Scorpian, Achilles, or Vendetta2? Also in a low noise environment, can they best the HR01 PLUS? I cant seem to find low noise tests with these new HDT HSF's.
Quote:
Originally Posted by zhangmaster12
Ariciu...thats amazing oc....very nice!!:up:
and Zhang, RS 1283 is same as S1283 but with nickle plated and comes with a more quiet LED fan. The new Achilles (S1284) is not out yet. and I will vote for S1283.
Achilles 1.2 is out, not 2.0 btw ;)
I think ill prob go with vendetta cause i can get it for 20 bucks @ microcenter.
^^^ yeah man 35$ after rebates hmm but then i found the sunbeam for 35$ also....arghhh
found my answer:
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.ph...1&limitstart=6
doesnt compare the red scorpian to the vendetta, but the red scorpian is similar enough to the xig it compared.
edited to make my wording better.
well according to spawne it did better than the red scorpion one