We have in sweden, confirmed delievery of Premium at 18th ...
around $450 .... but what the hell, this board seems to be awsome...
just that it have seperate CPU GTL , Like DFI , makes me want it ....it does a bit for stability... the rampage only still has CPU GTL REF ... not 0-1 - 0-2 like DFI or premium...
well well , should i place and order....hmmmm
I don't understand why (Asus) engineers are intentionally holding off on/taking away bios tweaks from the end user.
dunno, but premium are "less" board than Rampage, still rampage dont got the real cpu gtl, dont get it :)
the boards dont sell like butter, confirmed 4 boards at a shop here... still 4 , and still will be, people arent as crazy as us OC people, they dont want to spend 450 on a board.....heheeh..silly people ;)
or are we just plain stupid? hehe..
Komplett, right? Says 4 expected here too since their HQ and warehouse are here in Norway. That's not a whole lot of motherboards for two countries, so it looks like they just couldn't get their hands on any more for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
yep I think the Rampage will probably be the last single channel GTL board. The Premium with dual channel is the way to go.Quote:
he rampage only still has CPU GTL REF ... not 0-1 - 0-2 like DFI or premium...
Still, i dont know what it does... i know it somehow stabilizes the current to the cpu..
Gunning Tunnel....something.
someone please simple put the diffrence between single and dual GTL ?
0-1 0-2 means? whats 0-1 for and 0-2 ?
So, if given a choice for most of us here, would you go with the Premium or ROG Formula Extreme? Looks like both are based on the same X48 chipset.
If there even are an Extreme board, i maybe would have gone there, for me its Premium so far, with the lack of DFI T3R due in april some time i will not wait, (or cant hehe) , maybe ill get the DFI later in that case, and sell some stuff.
There suppose to be an Extreme version of ROG Formula, which instead of using DDR2 memory, it is using DDR3 memory. So far, that's the only thing different about the two that I have read about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
I apologize if this has been asked before, but will I have any fit issues installing a Fuzion on the Rampage Formula?
The only boards I've been able to find with a Fuzion installed are the older Maximus Formula SEs, which appear to have smaller heatsinks over the NB/SB/mosfet assembly.
Anyone know?
Quote:
Originally Posted by bellinghamwa
http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/ZZF-P5E3.JPG
But I received P5E3 Deluxe.:rofl:
Got my P5E3 Premium on the way from MWave, should be able to start messing around with it after Easter. Let's get this thread fired up! ;)
I just checked mwave.com and could not find the P5E3 Premium anywhere. I guess it doesn't really matter though. I got tired of waiting and ordered a 790i Ultra on March 18. If Asus had released the P5E3 Premium on March 18 (or sooner) I would have purchased it instead. Oh well Asus...you snooze you lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aivas47a
I don't understand that behavior eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
you sure that wasn't a deluxe?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aivas47a
Now they change a cofirmed date on premium here, it was due march 18th CONFIRMED...now 29th march.. stupid to set at confirmed date if it isnt, INTEL or the shop f-up :)
well well, maybe DFI are getting their board out until then? hate to not knowing hehe...
Ok I have my P5E3,
first impressions runs cool and overclocks Q6600 to 3825Ghz with 9x ,multi quite well.
I found the everset scores a bit lower than expected with trd of 6. I need to get a better cooling loop as I only have 1 120 rad covering cpu and gpu. I'll get back to you when I have run more tests.
I need to do fresh install as I havent had chance today. I tried OCCT but failed with 2 mins with cpu too hot, but seems to run ok otherwise. Strange I know its a newer version but I used to be OCCT stable at 3.6GHz on Maximus Formula SE. The temps climb to around 69-70c maybe it needs better tim also and a chance to settle down. Its a bit of a contradiction to what I said at first but to the touch everything is hardly warm.
I'll monitor the situation :)
Has anyone heard any information on the asus rampage extreme yet?
has anyone heard any release date or any information at all.
Ok, sweet :) keep us updated, too bad you havent got a Wolfdale to compare with... but how are the perf. and overall system compare to your previuis board? And what do u mean? isnt it stable at same clocks as on formula? or isnt stable at 3.8 ? doesnt show very well in your post :)Quote:
Originally Posted by DeViTTo
regards.
Yea I wish I had one too, but still installing my OS, I have put 2 scsi controllers on this board, ones a Perc 320-e the other a 320-2 from LSI causing some headaches running 9 15K II drives. Had to install vista to have both working off correct drivers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
Anyway had the cpu at 466 x 8 memory 1864Mhz trd7 very stable. Everest shows 11450 read which is impressive. I look back though at my old Formula 3dMark6 score posted here on same clock was 14300 odd now 13660. I need to do some more messing around once I have an OS to work with. Sorry cant update you more at the min.
I've a feelling you won't. Think the P5E3 Premium is the current replacement. The Premium is a newer design board with dual channel CPU GTLref, the Extreme only had single. I reckon Asus will push the premium & relaese an upgraded dual channel Extreme laterQuote:
Has anyone heard any information on the asus rampage extreme yet?
That's my guess but anyway i'm going to save myself some £ & have ordered a Gigabyte GA-X48T-DQ6 :ROTF:
luck:)
Have you gone gigabyte before? i have and i wont go back :) dont like it at all, but the taste is like the butt, shared or splitted (swedish saying :))
There are a rumour that the pinotnoir are the "rampage extreme" but in disquise, people say its a X48 chipset under there and not 790.
Soon premium are available here too, will order ...
And Devitto, how are the monitoring? i know the lack of Vdimm and other measures in p5e3 dlx model, how much does it show here?
regards.
Yep I had a x38 DQ6 for a while. Admittedly i got it after it had been around for a couple of months, found it a decent solid board. Was running Asus P5E3 Deluxe, but currently have my cellshock 14400 on RMA, hadn't overvolted them , much. Gives me that nagging suspicion I get on occasions that the board has killed my ram:rolleyes: . So after some mental acrobatics I've decided to save £50 & try the gigabyrte in preference to the Premium.Quote:
Have you gone gigabyte before?
Will watch with interest how the premium performs. :)
luck:)
My thoughts too when i got my gigabyte..
Had Maximums Extreme before, and it officially sucked at fsb , it refused to go beyond 500FSB , NOT EVEN 501, and it BSOD....strange board..it clocked like hell, boot up without a glitch at 9.5x500 , 4750 , this board have problems at 4,6 , i GOT FSB now, 562 now with this, but it clocks like an old hag.. and refuses mem dividers, its a bogus compared to asus, even if asus had sad fsb.....and bios on this board are a shame compared to asus.
maybe ddr3 wasnt mature enough on p35 or something, couse this is bad..
this is my main reason why im goin back to asus...bad bios, and very unstable at some higher clocks..well well.. hope asus wont let me down on fsb again, had 2 x38 boards doin exactly the same :)
gah typing alot of chit here, but thats me :) Devitto, report back please, im eager to see some results and answer to my question :)
regards.
well best of luck Infa, will keep my eye on your progress, hope it's giod:up:
luck:)
hehe you to my friend...
i know gigabyte aint all bad, but im a quite unlycky man... so ill get the crap for the most, a descent cpu i got afterall :)
29th its prel here for the boards...hope they will come then.. :)
Hope so as well. Mine should be with me 26/27th.Quote:
29th its prel here for the boards...hope they will come then..
luck:)
Infa
Sorry mate haven't done much testing apart from running my system with all scsi cards and new install of vista. What I can say everything is quick with Q6600 @3.6Ghz 450x8 1800 memory, runs sweet as a nut also with Vista Ultimate 64 I used to get lower 3Dmark6 scores now same as XP with service pack 1 installed. I think I might stay with Q6600 as its 64bit for a while.
It definately runs cooler with less vcore im running on auto with 1.38 @3.6Ghz, need to push to 1.45 for 3.8 and above. Haven't gone above Auto on voltages apart from Vcore to 1.45 or 1.5.
i'll get back to you later.
sweet :) the boards are actually in stock here at some retailers when i looked now, so i probably will get the board earlier.
how are the monitoring? you know, if you look in everest, what values do you see? vdimm vmch and vsb etc ? what temps?
regards.
Getting my P5E3 Premium on the 26th, will be running a E8200 and some STT ProdjectX ram with it, hope it works out well.... I´m also kind of unlucky...
Zip had the rampage and the P5e3 Premium today, so I ordered the Premum. I figured I might as well make the ddr3 jump now.
P5E3 Premium is at the Egg too:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131276
Is there a more recent bios for the P5e3 Premium than 0204?
I wonder if we will be able to flash the Maximus 2 Extreme version of this board to the P5E3 Prem.? Cross flashing seems to be all the rage at the moment.
FYI infa :) I dont know if this helps you. Thats a Q6600 @ 3.6GHZ 450x8 with mem at 1800 trd 7. Been on all day hard gaming, will go higher need a little more cooling than I have at min just 1 120 rad covering the CPU and GPU.
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7051/voltsmm9.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/7...ac3fd984c6.jpg
http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/4218/memrx8.jpg
[QUOTE=DeViTTo;2864616]FYI infa :) I dont know if this helps you. Thats a Q6600 @ 3.6GHZ 450x8 with mem at 1800 trd 7. Been on all day hard gaming, will go higher need a little more cooling than I have at min just 1 120 rad covering the CPU and GPU.QUOTE]
Good clocks there! Is tRD adjustable from bios like on Rampage formula :D
trd are adjustable in DETAIL on this board...like everything else :P
this bios are uber rampage bios :)
just look at CPU GTL :) dual channel wich formula doesnt have.
Devitto, yes that was what i was looking for :)
im sad to see that it doesnt show any measures for vdimm and vmch etc..
toobad i like to see what values are set, and asus tends to overvolt their boards too..
Great thanks! Can´t wait untill 26th when I get my P5E3 Premium ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
Anybody knows if PC3-8500 memory would work on the P5E3 Premium or do I really have to get PC3-1600 memory?
Sure, PC3-8500 will work on P5E3 Premium.
Are you certain? How come at ZZF, it says it's PC3-14400+ only, nothing about PC3-8500? Not that I don't trust you, but I'm just a little confused, that's all. I really wish it would though as I can't spend that much on memory if I go with this board. Thanks...Quote:
Originally Posted by bobov
it supports mem upto 14400..1800mhz Native, X38 did support 1600 native..
ofcourse it will work :)
Well, I just placed the order from Newegg. I hope I made the right decision going with the P5E3 Premium instead of Striker Extreme (790i) (or instead of waiting for the ROG Formula Extreme). Got the PC3-1333 memory from ZZF instead as the same kit costs $70 less at ZZF than at Newegg ($118 vs. $189). Huge difference in cost, but Newegg has the P5E3 Premium for (just) $10 less. I'm a cheap guy, so I shop for the lowest possible price, even if it's just $5 less. :)
what is the best memory to use with rampage formula ? what U think to use some of this ...
http://www.ocztechnology.com/images/.../ReaperX_b.JPG
2GB X 2 DDR2 1000mhz CAS 5.5.5.18
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/937/3dmark6dy1.jpg
http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/9...2c40e200ef.jpg
Well just messing around now have same score as before with Asus Maximus, but this is in Vista64 which astounds me as I used to get crap scores with vista against XP. This is at 450x8 memory 1800Mhz 3.6GHz.
I have tightened my memory timings a little to 8.7.6.18 and got better throughput in everest, this is BTW all with volts on default tried cas 7 but will not go into windows on volts I am on at the minute, was trying 7.6.5.18. Will try later once I have installed fan cooler on ram.
This board is running less Vcore than I used to run with auto 1.38V and it runs very cool. Vista with q6600 seems so smooth and responsive a lot different to 6 months ago. It maybe a lot also to do with the 2 scsi controllers and the way I have configured my arrays, but I have never had it so good. :)
I will be trying this ram in awhile once I get some more money. I saw someone use a pair of these 2.15V 1000mhz 5,5,4,13 @ 1T!!!! in a 680iQuote:
Originally Posted by DualCore
Devitto :) looking good! :)
getting my board tomorrow, CL 7-6-5-16 is easy with good 1800mhz memory.
1.95-2.0v is needed for 1800mhz CL7. try that.. ddr2000 cl7 needs about 2.25-2.30 little to high for my taste, but 2-2.1 are safe for 24/7 just so you know, ddr3 seems to be more durable that ddr2 at overvoltage. no degradation in my mem, allways kept it 1.9-2.0. looking forward to see what my cpu will do on this board. Will report back when its mounted :)
cheers!
I tried the settings you suggested but it will not boot at the minute at CL7 but it could be that I should relax trd which is set to performance 7. I have worries about heat from all my Hard drives etc so have ordered 5 x Notua NF-P12 to install in my tj09 including swapping out the centre inlet one, also bought corsair memory cooler, and thanks to soulscollective a Silverstone 4 into 3 bay convertor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
Infa i'm still on the original bios 151 I think there is a new one out there 204 but I cant see a revision list and I dont want to not be able to back flash if there are any issues. I think i'll wait till you play with yours a bit more as there seems hardly anyone who has these at the min. I also don't have a very good understanding of memory subtimings and the effect of each setting, and I will bow to others expierance in this area. Infa do you have the Cellshocks to?
The only problem that has raised an eyebrow has been the MB temp sensor through asus probe reporting MB temp at 191 Degrees. I have felt and also restarted to check temp in bios all was ok. It also takes out the sensor in everest. I think its just an asus probe glitch which has occured 4 or 5 times.
BTW good luck tommorow with your board and keep us posted :up:
Still waiting for my Xeon 3110 but board and mem is here, sorry for blury pic, Taken with K810i with carppy lighting
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c3...c/DSC00130.jpg
Which is better?The ASUS Rampage Formula X48 or the DFI DFI LP LT X48-T2R for the QX9650?
nice question, maybe one week more users have those mobos and we will know what's better to this cpu :) , i think the battle is for asus and dfi, the gigabut for third place :p: , what happen with the other brands :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by CoolZone
I'm really unpatient to find the answer to make the final decision of finalizing my build after 3 and 1/2 years
Based on my experience with prior Asus and DFI boards (P35, X38), a lot comes down to personal preference. A lot of folks around here love DFI; for others, DFI can be a frustrating experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by CoolZone
DFI usually has the most options for tweaking. If you are willing to invest a lot of time setting up the board, you can usually squeeze out a few more mhz of performance on the DFI board than on any other brand. At the same time, it can take a lot longer and potentially be frustrating reaching stability at "normal" overclocks. With Asus I find I can set up the board pretty quickly and get a better max overclock than any other brand with the exception of a heavily tweaked DFI board.
One key advantage of DFI in the past has been the ability to fine tune GTL reference voltages, which are key for maximum quad core overclocking success (kentsfield or yorkfield either one). Asus has been behind the curve on that option, but from what I understand the P5E3 Premium has much better bios options for GTL tuning. That should help narrow the gap in terms of maximum achievable performance.
I have found both brands to be sub-par in terms of customer service so that's not really a deciding factor. I do think Asus is a little better about continuing to support older boards with bios updates, and is less likely to abandon an unpopular model than DFI (spoken as a former owner of DFI's CFX3200).
PS: If you've really been waiting 3 1/2 years to finalize your build, might as well wait another year for Nehalem!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Aivas47a
Well,I cannot because I already bought 4x1GB Crucial Ballistix DDR1000
Got my board today :D
now its time to go home and install! hehe
like child :)
Give us some feedback soon :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Infa
I just got mine in yesterday and its running great.
joe; what BIOS version came on your Rampage Formula?Quote:
Originally Posted by joe.denice
mine came with 0219, whatever that means.
im running menial volts across the board on my e8400 @4.05ghz (450x9).
yup 0219 is the one I have.
Hi Infa:lol: thta's good news , only got mine yesterday , just going to start winding it up. Gigabyte GA X48T DQ6Quote:
Got my board today
now its time to go home and install! hehe
like child
luck:)
'omg, how hard this board is hehe..
cant for nothing in the world to get it right.
im using bios 151 ... maybe it sucks? i hope!
couse this is strange :) hmmm...
Topped in a quick test with some Vmch about 545 ->
and topped out about 4.8ghz
but THEN its hard to get it stable to what i had before...ah well, got to figure this out more :)
Hmm was looking over at asus... 204 are the only bios existing :) AND ITS THE FIRST RELASE bios? what do I have then? ES bios? heh..
now i think i crashed my win installation too...zzzzz stopping at HAL.dLL , i need to sleep
Infa that what I asked you a few threads back, but you didnt reply lol I was going to change to new bios. I have read that because of the delay the bios is much more mature. I dont want to be stuck not able to flash back to that bios we have now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
So i'm playing chicken and waiting to see how you get on. ;)
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeViTTo
There are two bioses on the asus ftp site. 151 and 204. (204 notes say "improved ddr3 compatability")
Thanks for that will install after messed around with installing Noctua NF-P12 x 5 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by xgman
the board are really strange with the volts..
it DONT like to be overvolted, it needs more or less exact voltage to what the speed are..
My goal are to bench 3dmark with 4,6, and i KNOW it can just need to find a setting for it :) , but i have to reinstall windows today, couse it got corrupted hehe.
Flashed to 204 before i went to sleep, and tested a little bit, think its better actually, now it boots up and starting win installation at 4750, but it hangs at harddrive detection... what are usually wrong when it cant read the HD?
dont know what options that effects HD reading.
Gotta try more of this tonight :) , Anyone know about the CPU GTL means with 0-2 1-3 ? core 0-2 or 0-3? cant be, couse the available voltage are diffrent for each..
i DO like the Phase pull in though :) you can have PL8 on the system internal settings, and still keep MEM PL at 7 :)
Im eager to try more :) just that it did 545 FSB after 10 mins are great :)
Tell me how it is goin for you guys.
regards.
Hi,
I received a Rampage Formula yesterday and only now I noticed that it didn't came with a back-plate or extra thermal sensors, is it normal or did anyone received these items?
Rgrds.
nope, i didnt... wasnt really expecting them though - the DDR2 packages from Asus have really gone down in add-ins since DDR3 hit :(Quote:
Originally Posted by MinisterOfSound
Hi Infa just updated bios slight everest read speed increase. I dont quite understand the Phase pull in i'm at PL7 cant go any lower. Do you have the Cellshock's as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
A pic of my rig setup with Asus P5E3, running 24/7 3.75Ghz Q6600 with 10 HD drives 7x36GB 15KII 2x73GB 15KII 1 Sata Raptor installed have 2 but anyways. 2 scsi Perc/Lsi 320-e 8800GTX watercooled with 1 x120 rad XPSC with 5 x Noctua NF-P12. Temp are really cool using 1.45 vcore.
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1772/mainpicqw2.jpg
http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/2919/everestlz6.jpg
Oh Daciper turn on PM's if you want a reply ;-) good luck
Hi I dont think it would be your bios revision thats stopping you posting. I am sure that E8400 would be supported. All you need do is install and away you go.
When a system doesnt't post its usual ram or video thats stopping it or unseated cpu. What ram do you have try 1 stick at a time, I am on 204 i think but bios I dont think is your problem as these boards designed around that sort of processor.
What video card are you running? try it in a different PCI-e Slot also. I cant think of much else really. Tell me
how you get on. Also check power leads to the video card whichever you have installed.
Got mine today and it came with BIOS 0151. Diagnostic software reports it's just a Beachwood X38...is it accurate or not? I also need to flash it to the latest BIOS. Any links to the latest one other Asus' site? Somehow I can't go to the their FTP site anymore, it's asking for a username whereas it never before.
Hmm, i need help with the GTL options, Core 2 are allways the one that dont hangs in.... and THATS what GTL are for more or less, but i dont know how it works damnit... 0-1 1-3 here and there, dont know what it stands for...
im at the same vcore as on every board i had, but this one is not stable at it..
as those other boards...need to get it fixed :)
pretty sweet bandwith though...
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfdale/everestbench.jpg
And S-pi 32m
Http://hem.bredband.net/infan/wolfda...i asus 4.3.jpg
try this link
http://support.asus.com/download/dow...Language=en-us
then select motherboard, then 775, then p5e3 premium. Mine came with same bios as yours. had no trouble updating to new one.
Infa what memory do you have please? nm read your sig what volts you running on memory I'm on default but get pl6 or tighter timings?
Im using Cellshocks.. as in sig :) thats why we got the signature right? ;)
im running 1.94 on them now, PL 6, and clock skew, stronger
now its only the cpu left :)
the sıstem are stable like this, but in orthos core 2 breaks before the first second, but only that!
still im fiddelng around with this GTL, but dont know WHAT core and to keep it low or high.
regards.
EDIT: now tried just for fun... did set 0-2 on 0.053x
and left 1-3 on auto, the system did not boot up :S
then put 0-2 on auto and 1-3 on 0.053x and now im typing...so they actually DO something atleast :)
I tried 1.94 got pl6 with 1.4 through NB 7,7,7,20 but got same performance as I have at my normal clock so I have resulted back to old settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
okay :) keep trying stuff...
either my cpu have degraded, or the mobo aint the same as other, but i need 0.02v more to get it stable. ah well... its not the end of the world, the mobo performs a lot better overall anyway.. and i HATE fiddeling with GTL if i dont know WHY, and how to affect them in the system, i have to learn how, when to keep it low or high..
regards :)
Mmmmmmmmmmm....
Still waiting for the Rampage Extreme....
What can I do with my Lian Li PC-343B case while I wait?
:shrug:
Buy a rabbit!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by traveler
Quote:
Originally Posted by lloydsmart
No news yet. But the Maximus Extreme did come out a couple weeks after the Maximus Formula.
:cool:
I need a complete BIOS info to stabilize my system (P5E3 Premium). I am running 450x8 on my Q6600 G0. I can pass all SuperPI but can't pass OCCT. I think I just a little here and there.
I got similar problem with my QX9650 on p5e3 premium. Core 4 always get error in prime95 with GTL set on Auto in BIOS. Changed GTL on 0-2 to 0.600, 1-3 to 0.630 solve the problem. Now my qx9650 is stable at same speed/same vcore as on my p5e3 deluxe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
You may try 0.60 on 0-2, 0.63 on 1-3. :)
Hi,
I have had my P5E3 Premium since it was released and have a QX9650 and Corsair DDR3 1800Mhz memory.
I have noticed that when I first boot my system from cold I receive the following message,
"CPU core to bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"
This the leads me to enter the BIOS by pressing F1 due to a boot failure. From this point I just exit the BIOS and the system runs absolutely fine again. I can restart it no roblem either. But, if I switch off completely I get the same error message.
I am running 450FSB x 7 with DDR3 running at 7-7-7-20 2.0v
All other voltage settings are at default.
Does anyone know what is causing this? I just tried default settings for cpu, multiplier and memory running at 1333Mhz and it still happens.
Thanks for any help.
I would say CLEAR your BIOS (using the jumper) and re-enter/re-configure all the information and see it makes any difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisUK
also got this core failure in prime... allways core 2 ..
and MAN this board is strange in behavior...its not logic at all.
it DONT like to get just a tad to much voltage, and strap 333 and 400 DONT work in 480FSB wich it REALLY would, nooo there the 266 strap works... and i cant get it stable at 480, mem 1920.. this is a freakshow board..so strange..
aaaahhhh..... cant for the world not get it to work ok.... maybe this bios are bad or something heh.. gaaah.. alllways this problems lately :)
maybe the DFI board will be launched soon ? :)
I'm sure next BIOS will be much better.
Seems like 266 strap has looser NB timings than 333/400 strap. Just compare memory bandwidth at same cpu speed @ different NB strap, you will notice 266 strap give lower bandwidth, higher latency than 333 strap. That's why 333 and 400 strap don't work at 480fsb, while 266 strap works fine.
tweak CPU GTL Ref for 0-2/1-3, :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
Also try prime95 25.6.
Well I've done a little tweaking on a P5E3 Premium, replacing a Maximus Extreme. Differences I've noticed so far:
Clock for clock, X48 seems to require less chipset voltage. Quadcore FSB over 450 took 1.6 nb volts on the maximus, only 1.44 on the P5E3
P5E3 seems less touchy with memory at the higher speeds. I've been able to dial in spec'd settings on cellshocks at 1600 - 1700 on different staps/dividers, no problems so far. On the Maximus, running ram at higher speeds was hit or miss in my experience.
Max OCCT-stable fsb on a q6600 I've been using is 475 (could be the cpu's wall, max for this one was the same on a DFI P35). No post at 500.
Will be testing with a q9450 in a couple of days. Hopefully 45nm, more mature bios will bring us 500 fsb at 24/7 usable settings. (A guy's gotta have a dream, right? :D )
Those 500/2000 results FCG and Tony posted for the Striker II Extreme are awfully sweet. I hope Intel isn't going to let Nvidia win this round of the motherboard wars!
Yeah, it requires so much less vMCH, im on 1.33 for 450fsb, and 1.37 for 480, so strange :) if i give it 1.50 or so it wont boot, but runs fine with 1.30+ :)
and the VTT are also very sensetive, just little to much it wont boot, also noticed low GTL wont post the board either, so high GTL are the way.
Think to much vMCH were my problem with the straps, getting it a little better now.
Only problem are that my cpu needs more vcore with this board, Or it is degrading maybe? adjusting the GTL wont help a bit for me, the system runs fine with 1.45 2h+ with max. Extreme before, now it needs 1.48-1.50. dunno if its the cpu or the board, but it is a fact.
i can keep it at PL6 and twister at strongest at 480 atleast... hell of a bandwith :)
well well, how are the vcore for the rest of you with penryn? more less or the same? i dont want my cpu to be degrading :)
Yes that's a good point too, the board seems quite sensitive to overvolting.
I'll be trying q9450 hopefully today. :D Anyone else testing yorkfields, please post the GTL settings that you are using as the P5E3 Premium has more options than Maximus/P5K. Thanks!
I get this too,. I got this on a Maximus Formula with the 1xxx bioses only. I got this with the latest bios on a P5K dlx also. I've seen this now with bios 204 on the p5E3Prem. Asus is doing something differently in the most recet round of bioses across the board and I'm not sure what. Some combinations of settings that are otherwise stable once in windows. It's a pain in the butt really. I don't know what the heck that means either, but obviosuly some bios setting it don't like. I'm getting a bit weary of it though and this P5E3 Prem is not all it is cracked up to be,. I'm tempted to try a 790i quite frankly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisUK
It droops more than my Maximus Formula did and I do find I need to set a tad bit more vcore to push my 9650. I don't know, so far I'm really not liking this board. It seems very finicky especially from cold boot. It's just giving me a bad vibe. Not sure how to explain it. :shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
I'm not ready to call it yet but I have to say, based on the early reports I'm seeing around here, 790i is looking pretty good. I've never been an nvidia chipset fan but I may have to try the dark side this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by xgman
BTW I've been getting that startup failure message on a couple of different Asus boards too, though not on the P5E3 Premium so far.
Actually cancel that dumb statement I posted about maybe I should try the 790i. It's looking real messy over there based on this thread: http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.asp?m=290927 ouch!! Lots and lots of unacceptable issues at the moment and even some reports of sata issues rearing their ugly heads again. arghhhghh!!!
Anyone aware of a newer bios in the works for the p5E3 Premium? (newer than 204?)
My QX9650 is stable at same vcore as on my P5E3 Dlx. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Infa
I cant OCCT for more than 2 mins falls over whereas this same chip lesser cooling was OCCT for 1/2hr or more ok on Maximus Formula SE. Prime it falls over with rounding errors on core 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by bobov
I will try at stock and see if it fairs better there im at 450x8 1800 most stable.
I have tried 0-3/1-2 but dont understand what im doing in this area. Also without performance loadline it won't boot. I suppose I'll have to move away from auto and start inputing volts, but I don't think thats the overall solution but it would start to help.
Anyone else input vcore for Q6600 i have tried upto 1.5 but I think NB needs to increase also. Its a pity we cant monitor what the defaults are like we could on Maximus Formala bios, because you could set and switch page and see the various voltage it set by default. There isnt enough in windows to monitor SB and NB voltages.
I was having some trouble with OCCT but switching the memory command rate to 2T seemed to solve that. I'm now stable with q6600 at 8x475 w/ vcore at 1.4625, PLL at 1.5, VTT at only 1.3, MCH at 1.44, CPU GTLs bumped up from default 63x/67x to 67x/70x respectively (no idea what I'm doing with those settings, just trial and error :rolleyes: ).
this board seems more sensitive to some adjustments ...
maybe a new bios will solve this :)
if someone wants to try another chipset and sell its P5E3 Prem ... i'm your man ;)
post edited and posted at --> http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...179580&page=37
hey ir1z,Quote:
Originally Posted by ir1z
first of all, you should be posting here:
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...179580&page=37
second, your northbridge voltage looks like its quite a bit too low for the overclock you want. bump it to at least 1.55
third, you WILL need to boost that vcore voltage. try 1.4 and work down from there.
fourth, when over clocking your balistix, you'll need more then 2.22 volts, esp if your using a fsb of 450+, and you want to maintain a 520+mhz ddr speed.
i was in the same position as you a week ago with the balistix. their rated at a measly 2.1 volts, so much over that your risking cutting you memory lifetime in half. id go with some 8500's.
finally,
if you can post your bios settings from the extreme tweaker page, it would help us all out alot more. follow the template, from here (the 1st post): http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=168119
I finally got OCCT stable at 450x8 400MHz Strap 1800 Memory with this board and Prime Stable, but it took 1.5 Vcore 1.94 Dram at stock timings which I might now tighten and performance level Vdroop. Everything else I left at default.Quote:
Originally Posted by jcniest5
http://img353.imageshack.us/img353/4494/occtbh4.jpg
Anyone know when is the final version of bios for Rampage Formula is out? On asus homepage there is still only the 'latest' beta dated 26 dec 07.
It is strange that the bios is not released since x48 is officially out already and from what it seems the beta bios was pretty solid already (reviews).
:shrug:
yeah havent tried CR2 for the mem though, maybe it cant handle it so well, its not that big a loss against CR1, will try later.
EDIT: Now my Win crashed AGAIN! , tried some stuff, and changed from 333 to 266, tried to enter the OS, but a file is corrupted, and it doesnt say wich one either........ ARGH! dont like this board, very unstable where others are stable. Hmm. what to doo. will reinstall again.
what else am i gonna do? :)
its SO strange really... the systems is quite fine at 1.45 , but ortho/prime/occt crashes instantly.
and if i up the vcore 1.46/47/48/49 , still crashes, this is insane, even if it has degraded? hopefully not, it wont be like more than 0.05 thats pretty much, it dont degrade over a second, or switch to another board...it must be this unstable,sensetive cracked up board...arrghh.. loosing my patiens.. :(
EDIT again: Finelly got some settings, did put it on OCCT last night, and checked in the morning, it had crashed at 2h 30 mins, thats fair enough when people are saying that the new occt 2 are a heavier test program, they said that the custom 2hr test are like 13hr Orthos, so im satisfied, it landed on 1.48 at 4,3ghz finelly. even though it was stablke at 1.45 on Extreme. But the values in bios maybe can vary, so this 1.45 on maximum maybe were 1.48, they are not THAT accurate. now my goal is 480+ stabilty with lowerd mnulti to 9 instead, i want the bandwith that comes with 1900+ CL7 mem :) almost 13gb i get. but DAM i say it again, the board are REALLY senst. with the volts, it must be so prescise.
how is it goin for you guys?
BTW , these 2 bioses are backwards flashable, just so you know, i got back from 204 and it didnt complain :)
regards.