:shocked: :eek: :clap:
Those are some beautiful numbers with the ST
But as others have said.. even if you dont post any pictures, can you
at least tell us what the set-up includes?
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:shocked: :eek: :clap:
Those are some beautiful numbers with the ST
But as others have said.. even if you dont post any pictures, can you
at least tell us what the set-up includes?
:eek: :up:
Haven't they given one to you to play with yet? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by hipro5
Is CPU producing an error? shouldn't It be LGA 771 not 775?
Agreed... it's getting out of control.. yet some people seem to be able to afford it..Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Kayin
It's just a shame more and more users have to bail out simply because the prices of highend stuff skyrocketed....
Wow. 5 ghz is close i can feel it..
[QUOTE=JAG87;2626732]Movieman you missed my point my friend. Skulltrail is not the top, its something beyond the top, which will only be available in limited quantity, because fortunately there are only a handful of people stupid enough to buy it.
Answer: = Ever been to a ball game? Ok, this is the front row seat. The average fan couldn't be blackmailed into paying for that seat. Yes, it is limited quantity and only a few can afford to see the game from that vantage point. Oh, and the game lasts what? a few hours? Nice way to spend $5,000.00. Going with your analogy, all those people are stupid for paying for premium. Econ. 101: Premium = Expensive. Get it?
Its one of those elite things that you will pay twice as much as it should cost, and will lose value much faster than anything else.
Answer = I remember when I shelled out $2,400.00 for a P4 2.2 Ghz processor system from Dell. That's just the way things are. As in above.
So my point is that its not the top, its something in its own class, the class of retards with way too much money and way too little brains.
Answer So because you can't afford it, everyone who does is stupid? You probably think the same of the front row seat, don't ya?
Dont take any offense in this, I know you can get a bit defensive about skulltrail (you and your multicore... you should see a psychiatrist), but just pause and think about it. I have no problem with people buying QX chips, or spending 800 dollars on a kit of ram, or buying 2x the latest and greatest video cards, and so on. Those things always have resale value, and dont become expensive paperweights. But Skulltrail is one of those things that will cost you boats of money, and will end up in the gutter just like Quad FX.
Answer Too many contradictions, will pass on this one.
Now how many of you fellas would get a skulltrail if you CAN afford it? See? That's where the whole point to this thing is really. I know if I could afford it, I would be out there bugging someone at Intel to put me on the order list. :D
Ahh so this is where all the Skulltrail heads are hanging out at. This news is insane! I knew this forum would bring the heat once again. Gotta save up for this one though, and hope it will dominate long enough to be worth it. Must see more results!
I cant afford it but i'll probably still get it anyways... got the cpu's and memory already :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
Meee!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zucker2k
I remember my parents shelling out $3,500 for a Pentium I system when they first came out :up:
IF I could afford it I would buy it in a heartbeat.
Is it a reasonable investment? Probably not.
Is it bleeding edge, makes even my old 55 year old plumbing tingle?
You bet your backside it does!:D
Skulltrail hell yeah I'm there!!!
How does skulltrail deals with multiple VGA's ? Supports SLI ? Anyone care to enlighten me ? Thanks !
it supports tri-sli !Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonucci
separate chip on the board..Quote:
Originally Posted by Tonucci
Oh, here we are at 112+ posts over one measly Cinebench screenshot!:p:
I wonder who sells them?
Thanks for the heads up !
Please dont show me tri-sli + OC'ed quads scores.... my head may blow up.
Nobody yet..:(Quote:
Originally Posted by road-runner
I would get it (a regular dualie, that is) but I don't know what to use it for...
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...play.php?f=207 :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by XS Janus
dude - that is one freaky looking back in ur avatar - urs?Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Malkec
Of course WCG or BOINC, but how does it (regular dualie) compare to PS3 in that regard, is it at least better? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Malkec
PS3's cant do WCG.
yeah whats the point in this system?
great you'll bethe few able to play crysis in dx10 with a good fps. but then you'll get bored of crysis. and want you thousands of pounds back.
Going fast.
Yep. They can do F@H, but not WCG.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
hey guys that are worried about the price, u can still pick up a q9450 and overclock that. it would be like half the performance for 1/10th the price.
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Originally Posted by road-runner
Yea, me tooo!Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
For private use, I guess it would be great for HD content encoding.
I hope the tools for that support multithreading regulary now. If not then you get my point on the other thread why I said that hardware monoploly for a while would be a good thing cause it would let software catch up.
You could you build a virtualization server with this and use its power for all the PC's in the house, right?
That would require a new way of thinking in my house.
SkullTrail would fit well with the workstation crowd too.Quote:
Originally Posted by XS Janus
hopefully we will start seeing more boards like skulltrail ...
monster oc'ing dual socket mid lowend boards would be great .
every time i see a skulltrail thread , it has very little to do with benchies . where's the pics and scores of tri sli and ln2 oc's of 6ghz .
i told myself no more spending $300+ dollars on a board when i can oc just as good with a $200 board , but with boards like this comeing out i might have to break my own rule .
bios screenies pleeeeeeeeeeease ....
I like dual socket boards for some reason. There's just something about them... :cool:
Two kickass CPUs? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Probably :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
You guys need to see some of the quad socket boards..Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
And Tyan had a quad socket board that took a daughter board for 4 more sockets..
Took the 8xx series Opty's..
Now imagine one of those with 8 QX9775's in it..:rofl:
I thought there was a sign here "Please dont feed the animals"Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
:cord:
32 cores:bananal: :bananal: :bananal: :bananal: :bananal:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Then imagine your power bill :shocked:Quote:
Originally Posted by happychappy
can i get a dual socket 775 with ddr2 please ... to go
Who cares? 32 cores? crunching FTW! :yepp: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
No, but you can get a dual socket 771 with DDR2..:DQuote:
Originally Posted by heydo6
http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...1333/?chp=5100
The warm fuzzy feeling you'll get will override the guilty feeling of the power bill :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Here, look at this: Tigertown..4 Quads..and don't ask the price..
It'll scare you..
http://www.supermicro.com/products/m...7300/X7QC3.cfm
*insert maniacal laughing* Imagine the powaaa!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I'll take a guess and say $1,200
Don´t think about the price... just look at it :slobber: :nuts:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by STaRGaZeR
Imagine being the manager of a data center, you never really have to worry about price :clap:
Here's the board:
http://www.acmemicro.com/estore/merc...id=4984&step=4
:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
I think you'd need more than that :shocked:Quote:
Important Note:
To ensure system stability with CPUs, a 500W (minimum) ATX power supply [4-pin (+12V), 8-pin (+12V) and 24-pin] is required.
The "cheap" chips for it are just around $1400.00 eachQuote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
The top ones are "I can buy a pretty decent car for this" type of money.
Then you NEED 16 sticks of memory..
Yea, close to $1600.00 for the memory for the minimum..
We priced one out a few weeks ago for laughs.
Top shelf your looking at $12-13K
Now about SkullTrail being expensive??:rofl:
Oh, PSU: They make a special one for it..1200a..I think it's 120a on the +12 line..
That only supports 192 gig of RAM though. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
"only":rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Come here so I can slap you!:ROTF:
:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Price out some of the Sun ultra high powered servers :rofl:
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f1...g?t=1197855058
Finally, some news of skulltrail. Tri SLI support ist the best news I heard this year, at last we can build SLI systems w/o using crappy nv chipsets :)
But... do you really need QX CPUs?
No, any socket 771 CPU will do ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jcool
...any?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
I read you need the Core 2 Extreme chips in the 771 variant.
And by the way, you obviously meant LGA 771 :p: .
The SkullTrail mobo isn't meant for just enthusiasts ;) It's supposed to appeal to the workstation market as well, and they really don't need QX9775's.Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
That's what I was hoping but for the workstation market, there are the Tyan/Supermicro Seaburg-based motherboards as well. Just like Skulltrail but lacking great oc options.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Can you give me a link on that? I'd love to run two E5405 Xeons on a Skulltrail!
No link to it. Just a little bit of common sense :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
Meaning Xeon support is still up in the air (although iirc, I saw a video with 2 Harpertowns demoed in Skulltrail..)Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
All the demo systems were 2 Harpertowns, up until the most recent ones at IDF, so it should :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
If it does, I'm on board! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Although this just increased my build costs but $300...
That ain't expensive or anything lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
I use that for a little casual internet browsing. I got it to complement my Blue Gene. :ROTF: 4 million..Quote:
Originally Posted by `danny
Top it all off with
http://blogs.zdnet.com/storage/images/ps3-super.jpg
:up:
I'm a total noob, can someone explain what Skulltrail is? I thought it was a dual CPU platform (for gaming???)
Is Fugger using 1 or 2 penryns?
SkullTrail is a dual socket, dual quad core, enthusiast platform. It features 2 QX9775 LGA771 Yorkfield (really Harpertown) CPUs running at 3.2ghz. It can use regular Harpertowns too ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanborn
It also has 4 PCIe x16 2.0 slots for Tri-SLI or CrossFire X
i think you have to hand out a set of new pants to everyone:p:Quote:
Originally Posted by Movieman
Now let's remove FBDIMM part and we got a top notch system :D
amazingly fast speeds!
Just enthusiast minded dual LGA771 board with 5400 series chipset, does not require QX9775 to be called "skulltrail."Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Harpertown are LGA771 Yorkfields. The board will not take LGA775 CPU's.
Great, thanks for clearing that up folks. Now only "problem" remaining is the use of FB-DIMMs. They don't clock well...
Now, here`s me, a little guy dreaming of a time of new "BP6" (still brings back memories of building the beast with 2x300Mhz celerons@ 2x450Mhz). Now can some manyfacturer please make us all a cheap dual socket that can take cheap memory/cheap quads and OC like a bat out of hell? Is it really too much to ask? ;)
you can get a dual socket 771 board for ~200 - 300$, 2x E5405 Quadcore Xeons for 250$ each (if you can find them in stock somewhere) and 4 GB Ram (2x2 GB FB-DIMMS) for 250$.Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis
makes ~1000$ for a 8 core beast with 4 GB ram... not that expensive:p:
i have no need for FB-dimms :) regular ddr2 would be nice thankyouverymuch
hehe.. i wasnt advicing to buy it.. i picked whats compatible with cheap dual s771 boards. was just trying to point out that the entry lvl pricing is rather low these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by anubis
but yep.. regular ddr2 would be the better choice.
My 667 1g's went to 856 (428mhz) with dry ice.... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jcool
You're crazy... Dry ice on your RAM! Well, I like it! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
more people would buy dual socket boards if they would make them with more oc'ing options ...Quote:
Originally Posted by naokaji
i guess as long as we can use ddr2 then we could use software to oc , but where we going to get more volts from ?
Where can you find a dual lga 771 board for $200-$300?! The cheapest I've seen is around $450.Quote:
Originally Posted by naokaji
There are cheaper 5000x mobos from Tyan, but I don't think 5000x support Harpertown...Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
Cheapest 5400 is $409.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813151100
Yeah that's the one. And the 5000x doesn't support Harpertowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Socket placement is better on SkullTrail, so that alone warrants the purchase (so does overclocking, SLI, CrossFire, and all the useless crap gone) :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
overclocking useless?!!!!!!!!!:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: do you know where your at:rofl: your not at xtremestocksystems.orgQuote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
Yup, which is why I'm onboard! I'm not sure if I'll be able to buy it in time though. It's obviously going to get out of stock within a few minutes after it goes on sale! :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Zytek_Fan
I mean the useless crap on server boards, like PCI-X slots (I haven't ever seen anything useful utilizing those :rofl:) Also the boot up diagnostic thing that server boards have that slow down boot up a little.Quote:
Originally Posted by hstuehmeyer2000
I would like some SAS ports on SkullTrail though :D
I am pretty sure that meant it makes overclocking and such better, and all the other stuff, less.Quote:
Originally Posted by hstuehmeyer2000
I am DEFINTLEY purchasing a Skulltrail!
Harpers on 5000x should work fine as long as you use 1333fsb cpu's and probably disable the snoop filter as well...Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
It would make sense that Harpertowns work on the 5000x chipset (at least the 1333 mhz Xeons should be supported) since it's still an LGA771 CPU but I read a post somewhere that stated you couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Do you have a link on that? I'd love if the 5000x series was supported because they're 1/2 the price of the 5400 series motherboards (and like 1/4 the price of the Skulltrail system :ROTF: ).
That system is my new system as soon as it comes out...I just hope it arrives soon.:)
And cost is totally irrelevant for something that powerful...;)
less talk more clock!!!
I'm sending Intel an e-mail with this link. I've also bugged my brother-in-law, who works for Intel.
They've got to understand that the market for Skull Trail is bigger than they think... but their strategy may be to create artificial short supply conditions to hype up the product.
I feel upset that the Skull Trail mobo will not be widely available to the mass market before it gets to oems like Voodoo and Falcon NW.
if you look at the supermicro boards they claim compatibility with the complete 45nm 1333 fsb line up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
tyan on the opposite claims their 5000 chipset based boards are only compatible to the only 1066 dual core 45nm xeon, but not the 1333 fsb dual / quad ones.
so its basically a case by case thing, on some boards they will work, on some they wont.
Twenty-four 240-pin DIMM sockets :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Speederlander
Quote:
Originally Posted by IanY
There are 2 rumors, 1 is a limited editon board, the other is that it will not be limited but full production but limited access as it will be available from intel only ( and select oems ).
I just hope they will be making enough that I can get one for about $5-600 usd, it works and oc's in bios reasonably easily with regular harper towns ( 5430, 5440 ) and they add some more options ( sas card optons? ) both for the work station crowd, the mega ocers, people who just have cash to burn etc.
I'm not finding a lot of info about skull trail on google
But it support 771 and 775 ?
So Wolfdale and Yorksfield ?
nvm
Oh yes it does. My SM X7DAE and SM X7DAL-E both support Harpertown with the latest 2.0a bios..Quote:
Originally Posted by DShankar
They just don't support 1600FSB..Boards bluescreen at 394.
I know, I've tested them with DDR2-800FBDimms and they will not do 400..
On the screenshot (fist post of this topic) you see a C2Q Yorksfield QX9650 775 :s
Already discussed..CPU-z is wrong..The chips in that board are socket 771's and thats all it supports..server cpu's with SMP not the desktop socket 775's.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenEye