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never said you were stupid;)...you just needed to be more specific in your post...you made it sound like you were talking authoritatively from a standpoint of chipset to chipset.
AND...i knew a few people who had a large (drop) droop on the AB9 QuadGT doing a P95 episode..idle was fine with 0.04v
BIOS Main Menu
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/9021/biosmainyg0.jpg
Vcore and Vcore Offset
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9244/vcorels2.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5...eoffsethc9.jpg
CPU VTT Voltage
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6107/cpuvttwr4.jpg
ICHIO Voltage
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/9528/ichioan9.jpg
ICH Voltage
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4...voltagetr4.jpg
MCH Voltage
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3...voltagedc3.jpg
Vdimm
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9782/vdimmax9.jpg
uGuru main
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7118/gurumainpi3.jpg
Monitoring
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4817/monitorxs2.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/6...monitorjf4.jpg
Test Setup:
CPU: E6850
RAM: Crucial Ballistix DDR1066 1G X 2
Display Card: Sapphire X800GTO2
PSU: Tagan TG530U15
Note: Memset is not working, it shows values but you can't change.
(1) Vdroop/Vdrop Test:
BIOS: 1.35V
Idle (window): 1.35V
Full (window): 1.34V
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8...oopidlepw7.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4...oopfullxo1.jpg
(2) 400 X 9, 4;5 DDR1000, PL=5
Sandra Bandwidth: 7838/7837MB/s
Superpi 32M: 13mins.41.719s
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/4...dra7838pt0.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/9...m13m417do2.jpg
(3) 450 X 8, 4:5 DDR1125, PL=5
Sandra: 8745/8780 MB/s
Superpi32M: 13mins.28.343s
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4...dra8763pf7.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/8...m13m283di3.jpg
(4) 500 X 7, DDR1200 test
11mins ortho Blend Test passed
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/5...ho11minqh8.jpg
(5) 500 X 8, DDR1200 Test:
Sandra Bandwidth: 9240/9283 MB/s
Superpi32M: 12mins.24.531s
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5...dra9262zp3.jpg
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/7...m24531sns6.jpg
(6) 520 X 7, DDR1250 Test:
Sandra Bandwidth: 9394/9395 MB/s
Superpi32M: 13mins15.672s
520X7 ORTHO Blend Test 9 mins. passed
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/8...dra9395od5.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2...m15672sdi1.jpg
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/2...ddr1250wf3.jpg
(7) clumb to 530FSB, but failed to pass ortho, it is a bit lower than expected coz my CPU's FSB can go to around 545MHz in air.
Sandra bandwidth: 9613/9619 MB/s
Superpi 1M: 13.641s
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/4...dra9616xz4.jpg
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/9...perpi1mvg3.jpg
PROS:
(1) Vdroop/Vdrop is minimal
(2) Digital PWM is not as hot as previous model (only tested with a Dual Core CPU)
(3) Price is cheaper than other X38 MBs e.g. P5E series, IX38 QuadGT is at HK$1999.
(4) The heatpipe heatsinks do the right job, the temperature is not very hot even at high voltages
(5) It runs as fast as Top P35 models, e.g. P5K-P, DFI P35-T2R and faster than Maxmius Formula, because of the Performance Level it adopted automatically.
CONS:
(1) just like P5E, maximus formula series, 4:5 divider is not very good at higher FSB.
(2) lack of control of performance level in BIOS, it is important coz it may be too tight by AUTO and affecting the limit of FSB of chipset. And memset is not supported at this moment.
(3) The chipsets control (memory subtimings) is not as many as other models, coz lack of this, it affects the overclocking of RAMs.
(4) FSB limit is not as high as Maxmius Formula, may be caused by CONS(2)
(5) BIOS needs update coz some subtimings, e.g. Tras,... are wrong after enter window checked by CPUZ
I have sold my GB X38 and ordered this Abit IX38 board. Have always liked Abit.
The board should arrive on monday or tuesday.
Waiting for penry so right now i´m gonna use my Q6600 G0 on water with a pair of Crucial Ballistix PC8500 memorys. Best way to update bios, thrue dos or flashmenu?
follow ace's guide re flashing from floppy or usb.
be interested to see how your q6600 go runs. Haven't seen one run to it's potential yet, Needs a ridiculous amount of vcore.
luck:0
You know, that up to the pics of 400x9 i thought that my Ab9 quad gt can do this too, then i saw the 450x9 but mems at 560 and i thought that ok so the mems are the only thing that oc better on this board. Cus its very hard for me to oc higher than 520, well that was with my old ballistix pc6400 sticks that have died. have new stick now :) But then i saw all the other pics and then i was sold such a improvment over the old quad gt board. I really like how good it can clock mems.
Any word on what might fit onto the northbridge? I really want to try this board out, but I would have to mount it upside down (Lian-Li V2000) and would need to replace the nb heatsink. Any ideas?
Shawn
thanks for the results TinTin :up:
i'm still waiting for someone to test a quad on it before i bite :)
Quote:
Originally Posted by aiya
Anyone seen the IX38 in the States yet? I keep checking Newegg to see if it's available. I even submitted a request for them to stock it (just in case they weren't planning on it)
I would like to pull the trigger on an X38 board, but my experience with the Asus Maximus was HORRIBLE. It never wanted to reboot; I always had to flip the PS switch. It also false tested SIX sticks of RAM as bad in Memtest, that were in fact good sticks, etc.
I'm hoping that because Abit didn't rush the board out like Asus and GB, maybe it will be better.
I noticed the MSI Platinum is out now, wonder how that one is...
did you verify the Vdrop/Vdroop by DMM meter?Quote:
Originally Posted by TinTin
the only place i've seen it in the states is at mwave @ $225.75:Quote:
Originally Posted by Scope666
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/viewspec....iteria=BA24444
i've bought stuff from them before, never had a problem. they're located in SoCal btw.
I have bought a lot of stuff from mwave and they have all ways been fast on shipping and i have never had a problem with them.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Moto450
I JUST noticed they have them at ClubIT also:
http://www.clubit.com/product_detail...mno=CA4841008#
What do you think, should I try it? You guys happy so far?
And still nothing about the northbridge. Anyone????
Interested but will wait for new bios update first. No need to buy it with a crappy bios then cry about it.
:clap: I am still happy with it. Running 7*490 @ 3430 mhz with 1.42v DDR980 4-4-4-15 @ 2.45v. The board is rock solid. No problems whatsoever.
Running on 12B02 bios. I think this board needs a very good bios that can handle quadcores. The only problems that are mentioned on the forums is that you need lots of vcore for overclocking q6600 G0's.
For all DualCore users this board is already very good. See Hazzan on this thread, see TinTin.......
After a very tacky start, am starting to make headway. Tweaking GTLref & VTT let me reduce vcore from levels Clunk, then myself had started from.Quote:
i'm still waiting for someone to test a quad on it before i bite
8Hrs & running:D
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...c_8HrPrime.jpg
Bottom Pics in here vdroop=.04vQuote:
Verified MM readings
How about PWM temps @ 9*400 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
ok, so my build is up and running, with suprisingly few problems, but one or two minor frustrations.
Q6600 Go
4GB Crucial Ballistix 8500 [4 X 1GB]
Gigabyte 8800GT 512 MB
Enermax Galaxy 850W
Silverstone TJ09 case
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
Firstly, the bios and CMOS needs clearing when ever the power to the PSU is unhooked for any length of time..I hope this changes:down:
Secondly, I have had the Bios freeze, just the once, but Guru in windows hangs when ever I try to shut it down, to the point where I have stopped it loading up in the start up plus the temps are Way , way off !!:eek:
I am still on the bios "as shipped", which is something else I need a little help with.
so, ok, I am at 3GHz, gently pushing the FSB, I have manually set the timings of the 4GB of crucial Ballistix, but I am very confused by what CPUz is reporting, the tRAS I set in bios was 18, however when CPUZ loads it reports it as 24 ?:shakes:
I am still finding my way with this Intel stuff...I wonder if I have something selected I shouldn't have ??? Advice Please !!!!!!:yepp:
Some pics
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/Nov07054.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/Nov07055.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/Nov07056.jpg
Still can't work the USB pen drive as a boot drive...i was made using my other PC Win XP Pro should I restart in Vista 64 bit ?
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/Nov07057.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...g/Nov07058.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...18_shows24.jpg
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...sMemat3GHz.jpg
So, a few things I would really like help on:
I would love to flash the bios....USB pen being a bit of a git..will try once more to follow Ace's method.
Is the memory showing different in CPUz a problem ?
something I should change (from screen shots above)??
Or should I just crack on with the FSB pushing ??
Finally, I have run Futuremark 2006 and I get a low score of 7694:rofl: :down: :shrug:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2.../30GHz3D06.jpg
I should be hitting at least 10K ??
HElp !!
Any advice / comments most welcome :cool:
my 1st impression: you are overdoing it with Vcore for 2.7Ghz...you shouldn't be above 1.35-1.40v for a P95 episode.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ademcg
2nd: Vista is not friendly to video games or benching...once SP1 comes out, it should improve that situation.
3rd: at what point are you getting a bios freeze?...i would take your memory down to 2-Gigs for a while or maybe down to one stick to see if that keeps the freezing situaion from happening again.
4th: Uguru might have problems with vista 64 so you need to install XP to see what affect that has on the whole system.
5th: the tRAS setting is obviously a quirk with this board when you have it manually set for a lower number...possibly a bios fault...it could also be a problem utilizing all four dimm slots...try the above soultion with using less dimm's.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Hi Ace, thanks for taking the time to reply...much appreciated.
ok.
1.) I haven't tweaked the vcore, it booted up like this...I thought I was on stock volts....I think there is a large difference to what is showing in the Bios screen and what progs like CPUz shows Also uGURU was way out with Temps and voltages.
2.) Ahh..lower than expected 3d 06 score purely down to Vista ?
ouch.
3.) The point I had a freeze in the Bios was after I increased the FSB from the stock to 282 MHz, it then frozen and I had to Clear CMOS, the full way (i.e. remove power, change jumper, remove battery, remove ATX power cables from Mobo, wait 60 seconds, replace ATX power cables, replace battery, change jumper then power up)
4.) I have a copy of XP Pro but its runing on a system already, not sure I want the mess of adding it to this one too.
5.) Could this be a bios issue ? I will try removing the extra 2 dimms and see what difference it makes.
Once again, thanks for the help :up: it can get annoying when you are in a room with £1200 worth of componentry not doing what you ask :yepp:
on the increase in FSB generating a freeze within the bios, i would increase vcore first (plus other associated voltages), save and then come back into the bios for FSB adjustment.
now that you mention the disparity between what cpuz reports as vcore and what is set in the bios reminds me of hearing problems with cpuz reporting accurately when it comes to vcore and vista 64...do you have a 32 bit vista to install?
you can install XP on this machine to be a dual boot without having to register it...i think MS gives you 30 days to validate it..right?...just something to do to get a comparison between the two OS's.
one thing about putting in xp after vista is installed might require you to do a repair on vista 64...usually, if you install xp first and then vista 2nd, you will have an option to dual boot.
9x400 12HR Prime StableQuote:
How about PWM temps @ 9*400 ?
Just got mine today...
The board doesnt come with any screws n stuff to mount it which is strange cos it should be std on any board and since I dont have a spare set...I'll have to get some tomorrow.
It also doesnt come with the retention clips that according to the manual is supposed to be included....
I guess Abit sort of rushed the release of this board...hopefully my local distributor can provide me with the missing stuff...
is that 0.03 drop at idle or under load?Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
my pro board has a 0.04v drop in idle and droops another 0.04v to 0.05v under P95 load...total = 0.08v to 0.09v in a P95 load condition.
As per Pics:D
Load = 1.407v
Idle= =1.437v
Droop = 0.030v
Is this your first build? Mainboards don't ever come with mounting hardware. That is alwas included with your case. You reuse the mounting screws and standoffs after chaning boards. Just make sure the standoffs match the positions of the holes in the new board because they sometimes differ from one another.Quote:
Originally Posted by vpw
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
not bad at all...BUT...does it get worse as you go higher on the vcore?
Lol let you know when i get there, it generally does but :shrug:Quote:
does it get worse as you go higher on the vcore?
SuperShanks,
just read your living review and this took my eye:
5) Driver installation. I was somewhat suprised when The Abit CD kicked off automatically updating virtually every driver. This was particularly suprising as my installation was already X38. It was particularly frustrating to see my install totally screwed , to the point that I reloaded my Acronis backup image, something I've done several times in the course of the last two days.
I too installed all the drivers from the Abit CD supplied, looking at the info in nvidia drivers, it is n't showing me x16 in my PCI-E slot 1...this is where I put my single 8800GT, it shows PcI Express Bus x0.....shouldn't it be X16 ??
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...Driverinfo.jpg
..may this explain my very poor Futuremark 3d06 score of 7694 :eek: :rofl: :down:
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2.../30GHz3D06.jpg
Oh and Ace...I took the 2 dimms out and no real difference...just for the record.
Seriously starting to annoy me.:horse:
Not sure use cpu-z it's easy to see pci-e channels use the mainboard tab.
I have just gone back to the latest nvidia drivers, It now does show the X16 Pci-e bus..however when I run 3dMark06 I get a black screen - no images, not really sure if it is carrying out the benchie or has hung, will give it a few minutes and see.
Now running on the beta 12 bios btw...not a lot seems to have changed.
Christ, its becoming painful.
Hey, I just ordered this from clubit and I have a Q6600 GO. What is the best bios to use for a high overclock (I'm on phase)? Thank you.
how does this board compare to the IP35 Pro? Is it a better choice?
Will flash m board today when it arrives. I will follow ace guide with flashing bios. Flashmenu works but feels a bit scary, so i going for flash in dos.
Is this parameters correct? /e /py /sn /wb /cd /cp /cc /cks ??
yeah i forgot abt it, cos this is only my 3rd build ever, my last one was more than 4 yrs ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by century child
The mounting hardware doesnt really concern me, however the supposedly included fan retainer for PWN cooler is missing. They even have a pic of it in the manual lol...
anyways I contacted our local distributor I hope they can provide me with the retainers...
Of course main concern is bios, hopefully they'll release a fix soon....
The Abit distributor in Australia have these in stock from today. Nice price too for an X38 board :cool:
I flashed from my usb drive the other day, using ace's guide:up:
Flashed to12 BTA after renaming file to .BIN. Despite editing the name in runme.bat wouldn't play, so I manually flashed using Ace's
Which worked fine, thanks Ace:DQuote:
AWDFLASH.EXE M629B_16.B01 /e /py /sn /wb /cd /cp /cc /cks
Luck:)
Seconded, Ace's guide is excellent, also now running 12 Beta bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
Looking at my problems, I am thinking of turning my back on Vista and installing XP Pro.
But how can a new release mobo not work with an OS that has been on the market for over a year (Vista Ultimate 64 ) ??
Not good enough Abit, must do better !! :down:
SuperShanks....talk to me as a fellow life long Liverpool fan who actually met Shanks in person :cool: If I were to RMA this board, what would you suggest I got in its place ?? P35 product or a different X38 mobo ??
Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
glad it worked.:)...i put in the manual way for just in case's like you had;)
thanks for the thumbs :up:;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ademcg
you can install XP and then run setup for vista from DOS and just pick another partition on your drive to put in vista...i always break my drive up into 2 or 3 sections just so i can put in an extra OS.
@Aceyep i appreciated that, did that as it was quicker than troubleshooting why the bat files didn't work. It's only the run.me that has the bios target file that needs changing ??, which i did.:shrug:Quote:
glad it worked....i put in the manual way for just in case's like you had
@Ademcg
OMG Respect:DQuote:
SuperShanks....talk to me as a fellow life long Liverpool fan who actually met Shanks in person
Depends entirely what your looking for. Having got over the high vcore issue i'm reasonably happy, as i 've shown there are a few niggles. Only major item for me is the Drive detection issuer i mentioned. Have seen it recur today, whilst i'm testing my drives & rebuilding raid arrays.
If you want a solid mobo built like a volvo, which oces well then Gigabyte,
The Abit has a more feature rich bios. Guru is great for changing voltages on the fly, is great, used it to tune my gtlref. It's more boy racer i think.
To be honest I haven't been able to decide yet, need to play a bit more on the abit to see what i can get.
P35 wise Abit IP35-Pro or the DFI LP UT P35-T2R would probably be my choice, but haviung had neither , there are other pps with 1st hand experience.
luck:)
supershanks: did you type in after the "C:" prompt the syntax: RUNME.BAT to get the abitfae.bat to run?...that's about the only thing i can think of for the auto program to not work.
id you type in after the "C:" prompt the syntax: RUNME.BAT to get the abitfae.bat to run?
Yep:)
I have now installed my new fresh Quad GT. Feels really good right now :)
I switched from my GB X38 DQ6 without reinstall vista for the moment. Will do a fresh install later this weekend. The only problem i have now when i launch Uguru it shows nothing. Only the general tab. Is it a Vista X64 compability problem? Will also flash bios soon !!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodream
UGURU or at least mine doesn't seem to like Vista Ultimate 64..it would lock every time, so I dissabled it from start up, plus the temps were way off.
uguru in 64 vista is bugged. It reads my temps usually fine, sometimes not at all. Other times i get a BSOD with uguru in the error dump, although changing voltages/fsb works fine, just when your done turn it off, sucks to have a uguru bsod during gaming.
hmm hopefulyl this board will shape up with some bios updates Or a revision, looks pretty good so far, but not as solid as ip35 pro out the gate. Will be keeping an eye on it, i def want to get something with pcie2.0 when the new 9 series cards come out though.
Cpu temp is way off, about 8~10C below core centre, but the voltages vcore , vdimm & vtt that i measured with mm proved guru voltages suprisingly accurate. As i said the OC panel is great in saving time rebooting while tuning.
Moving mobo with the same chipset shouldn't require a fresh install, just a change of things like sound & mobo utilities
ya the cpu temp reading is always off in guru by at least 3-5c or more. Makes ya wonder about the pwm sensor, i usually had 5c to it. But yes voltages are very close, as tested with my dmm for vdimm on my p35 board. memory droop on my ip35, i have to give my 4gb 2.125 to be stable, with droop its about 2.1, and 2.085 under hevy load
Has anyone managed to solve the whole "no boot after idle for a few hours" ?
I had power plug in PSU all night and today while at work, come to boot it up and no boot, had to clear CMOS.
No not heard of that one:)Quote:
no boot after idle for a few hours" ?
Edit:
Didn't find that there was actaully an increase on load(running large ffts inm prime) My crucial had been att 2.2v load rose to 2.24v idle was MUltimeter Measurments I'm running at 1000 at 2.175v as a consequence which is fine.(12hr stable)Quote:
i have to give my 4gb 2.125 to be stable, with droop its about 2.1, and 2.085 under heavy load
Add it to the growing list :/
Well in fairness my list has been shrinking:)
Edit:
Serves me right for saying that think one of my 4x80gb drives has died, building raid was juast copying image to raid5 matrix stripe.
But not all bad news:D Posted at 500 but no xp.(yet Muhahah)
luck:)
Does the Cpu Core Voltage Offset improve overclocking?
I sent an email to Abit EU again yesterday about the issues i've seen around all the usual forums. There seems to be a FSB wall for dualcores on this mobo @ around 491 fsb. Supershanks had it with a q6600 G0 and i have the same problem with a very good E6600 that did 515 fsb on a P5B of a friend.
Also i have problems getting the memory stable @ DDR1100 and above which should be possible with my OCZ Ti Alpa VX (PC8000@4-4-4-15 stock). I mentioned the problems people where having with quad core overclocking. All problems will be forwarded to Taiwan and he assured me they are very happy with good feedback and it will be used. Most of these problems can be solved by a "killer" bios !
I think there are memory controller issues in bios 11 and 12B02. He will send me a new beta and/or final when they finish it. Also he is going to send me mounting clips whenever they get them from Taiwan.........
Stay tuned for more news !
I wondered that b4 i got my board when i saw the 1st bios scree. Itt's the onlly extra bios option to the p35- pro. Sadly it doed rock all , just giving you extra vcore addition. egQuote:
Does the Cpu Core Voltage Offset improve overclocking?
cpu core voltage ....= 1.400v (max = 1.65v)
Finally.
I am ready to put this rig together. Been to busy lately, have time this week so let the fun begin :D.
Thanks Ace for the flash BIOS guide, was a piece of cake to follow.... prof is in the testing as they say ;) so will flash in a minute.
Just a quick question: Memetest, witch option should I select for a good test. I want to test each stick separately then put in all 4.
welcome, my friend!:)
@Ace-a-Rue : why you not pick up that board ACE ? I see you have many improfment with board like IP35Pro
XP and drivers are installed (Vista64 will be at a later date).
Now I need to find a good O/C guide.... only ever O/C AMD before. I want to do some reading before I get into it.
you know, i am just not convinced this is the board to buy...i really want to upgrade to DDR3 and i was disappointed that abit will not release a DDR3 board until the X48 comes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzan
Bingo13 told me this board is fast but it cannot be pushed hard before breaking down.
now, i am in a dilemma;)...i want to buy a new DDR3 board along with buying a QX9650, so i am thinking about giving gigabyte X38T board (DDR3) a try...i know, heresy!:D
My first results :D.
My pc booted with CPU volts at 1.21 (or there abouts) so when I bumped my CPU higer I couldn't boot. From reading many E2140 threads 1.3v's is fine, so I upped it to that.
When I tryed superPI I couldn't get it to run on the other core so i uped the vcore again to 1.3150 and that didnt work.
So I did a search on the error and found that it was due to trying to run the superPI twice from the same folder :D.... oops.
Copyed the folder and deleted all the data in superPI folder except superPI.exe and they both ran fine.
Pressed ok on one of the tests before I realised it gets rid of the time/section.
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/1...4833fq5.th.jpg
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/156...3575gi8.th.jpg
I did SuperPI just as a starting block and a quick test. I will see if 3.2GHz works at that voltage and the SuperPI it.
Hopefully it will pass and then I will move onto Othros (spelling?) and run that for 12hours or so (fingers crossed).
Then I will work on lowering the vCore.
Remember, its just a starting block and I was surfing while I was testing.
Question: Is one core faster tan the other; shouldn't they be almost equal in time?
I though that there was now going to be a DDR3 IX38 QuadGT as well?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
At any rate I can't see any advantage to me switching to the IX38 QuadGT either atm as I don't run Crossfire.
I picked up a set of Kingston PC2 9600 2GB. @ DDR1200 i get random reboots. Now im running them @ DDR1000 4-4-4-18 stable. Anyone an idea why they cant do DDR1200. Default voltage is 2.35v !???
@nordien : 600 5-5-5-15 vdim 2.35volt all set in bios.....maybe you can see with my setting in UGURU monitor :) :) :)
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/8553/600yx6.jpg
To bad mine dont do that. They are week 33 2007 with new look heatspreaders. When i try to boot @ DDR600 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.35 Windows XP cannot boot completely. My OCZ Ti Alpha Cannot do more than DDR1050 @ 4-4-4-15/5-5-5-15 with this IX38 Quad. I think it is a bios issue (hope).Quote:
Originally Posted by Hazzan
I flashed back to Bios 11. No results. My settings are:
vdimm 2.3750
vcore 1.3875 with 0.5000 offset max 1.4375
vmch 1.60v
vchio 1.60v
DDR1000 @ 4.4.4.15 anything above DDR1000 will bsod even when the processor is @ stock speed !?!?!@@##
run test 5 mainly, for at least 4 hours. also test 3,7 are good to run in memtest86+Quote:
Originally Posted by DangeR!
there is a new version of memtest 3.6 out, which runs in windows. Using both is a good idea.
Thanks allot for the reply.Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
ace your getting a qx9650?
:jealous:
Anybody using high binned DGKX on this board ?
My Kingston PC2 9600 wont do DDR600, no matter what vdimm/vmch
But they can do DDR550 @ 5-4-4-15 @ 2.45 or DDR500 @ 4-4-4-15 or DDR400 @ 3-3-3-6
The Kingtons are DDR600 @ 5-5-5-15 @ 2.35v
:down:
This is the highest ii've managed with memory not sure how stable it is yet
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Funny, I was gonna recommend 5, 6 & 8 :DQuote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
Anyways, I'd just let it run through 1 complete pass and then move on to prime blend... cause memtest won't tell you whether your system is stable, but prime will.
eventually...waiting on the retail chips and for prices to slack off....trying to be patient and not just bust out there to get an OEM cpu....i still could get a bummer chip...you know, the luck of the draw.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by strange|ife
i think it is a rarity to attain the advertised spec for the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by nordien
ok...bench it and show some results....i'm curious to see how this board stacks up performance wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
Maybe youre right. But I have a new stable set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
8*450 = 3.6ghz @ 1.43v
DDR1080 @ 4-5-4-15 @ 2.40v
vMch 1.75v
vICHIO 1.60v
CPU vtt 1.30
DDR1100 @ 5-5-5-15 is also possible but the vdimm has te be 2.45v wich i think is to high for 2.35v rated dimms......
Maybe a new final bios can solve this ;)
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2,4V will always be to high for 24/7 operation imo. Maybe some chips/PCBs can cope with it for some time, but eventually they will die. Even though some vendors rate them at >2,3V I wouldn't go beyond that.
Have been doing the same run as nordien.
8x450 = 3.6k @1.40v
DDR 1080 5,5,5,12 2.175v
vMch 1.43v
vICH 1.12v
vICHIO 1.50v
CPU vtt 1.30
kicked of last night. got back to see it still running with 16hrs up. played with skins in guru, went to open cpu-z ready for the pics.............. It Froze.:lol::shrug:
Oh well re-running::D
@jcool yep especially as the vdimm lifts a bit when memory is under load ie large ffts. see MUltimeter Measurments 2) VDIMM I've found i can run mine quite comfortably at 2.175v which will be roughly 2.215v loaded, should be good for 24/7 use.
Hello guys, I'm planning on putting my system together tomorrow, any tips? What bios seems to be the best? I have a Q6600 GO on phase, patriot 1066 ram, 8800gtx. Thanks for the help and happy thanksgiving.
I think we're mostly running with the BTA 12. If you struggle to get it Pm me or one of the guys & we'll e-mail you it, or contact Abit support.
Hi,
Follow this guide written by Ace-a-Rue to flash.
This is the latest BETA BIOS M704B_12.B02 (rapidshare link).
right, I came to the rig tonight after several days leaving it without power and I get this:
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I have now tried to clear the CMOS 3 times and removed the RAM leaving a single DImm in slot 1 and it won't go any further, it doesn't even respond to the keyboard (F1 or Del)
Anyone know how to sort it ?
Final straw me thinks :(
Cmos battery dead, remove battery, remove power for 10 mins. then put battery back and power. It should work. If not get a new battery. If not RMA. I flashed back to BIOS 11 due to several problems. Maybe its the beta bios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ademcg
What were issues the Memory controller or other issues ??Quote:
I flashed back to BIOS 11 due to several problems. Maybe its the beta bios.
left you a note on Clunk's about a known conflict between CPU-Z 1.41 & uGuru - doesn't happen on CPU-Z 1.40 or earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
2 hours with the battery out, three sticks of RAM later and it lives again !
Installing Win XP PRo to hopefully sort out graphics problems then maybe I can start to Overclock :yepp:
Thank you guys for the information. I'll let you know how it goes.
Pretty mobo... :up:
what kind of keyboard are you using?..USB?...could be the problem...try changing out the keyboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ademcg
The memory controller. I had problems with my memory kit OCZ D9GMH and Kingston D9GKX. Also i had a couple of strange reboot issues while overclocking. Now im back to 11 again and the system whil recover from a bad OC flawlessy but the memory issues remain. I have to give 2.4v to get to DDR540 @ 4-5-4-15 or 2.4v for DDR550 @ 5-5-5-15. Anything above gives me bsod's. !Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
I'm hanging on this thread Im still on the fence whether to get this board. Its showing up now for a very reasonable price. But Im not 100% convinced yet on its reliability. Abit in the past haven't been overly kind to me when bios problems arise (thinking back to an old 478 mb i had which would cold boot all the time and they wouldn't do a damn thing about it)
Ok I take one step forward three back.
I sort the check sum error thing...install XP Pro and still the same performance with the 8800GT and the graphics interface, now the Nvidia sentinal warning thing pops up every log in stating the card has insufficuent power and has been throttled back for safety, so its not a driver issue its a hardware thing.
I have been in touch with enermax UK who have asked if there is the possibility of increasing the voltage to the PCI-E slot #1 ??
I am not aware of such an option in the bios.
I have tried changing the PCI clock [Frequency] upto 110 but it does nothing,
I have also increased the ICHIO voltage and nothing changes (what would be a reasonable level to set this too, just for the record?)
So, we are down to either the Graphics card, the Motherboard or the PSU ?
A lot of other people are having trrouble with the 8800GT & GTX cards and this nvidia sentinel warning, not sufficient power ! Very prevelant in Antec PSU owners. I guess it still could be a driver issue too.....great stuff:shrug:
Hi Ademcg,
sorry to hear about your troubles, it does seem to be card related. Most issues i've seen with PSU's are between the mobo/psu .I've not touched ICHIO from the default of 1.50v, your right there is no direct way to increase the PCI-E voltage. Though i have heard of people doing it indirectly by raising ICHIO.
I'm not sure if it has any relevence but there is the PCIE- Root Port Function in Bios (Advanced Chipset) I'm not sure what impact changing 1st item for slot 1 from has maybe changing it from auto to enabled may help :shrug:
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Cheers Heidfirst:up:
Making some headway:D
8x450 21Hr Prime Stable
Added +4 tpo max FSB 495x8
Thanks for the sympathy dude....its a frustrating process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
I currently have the Root port Function set to enabled, as I thought this would directly force it to select and work properly with the card.
oh well, the only way is up...as they say :confused2
I have just installed this board with my E6850 and 2x1GB OCZ Ti Alpha memory, I am getting a C1 boot error :(
I tried only 1 stick in each slot, but it is always the same C1 error. Clearing CMOS does not help and at the moment I have no other ram to hand......
If I boot with no ram I get C1, which makes sense of course :p: :)
Any ideas? I know I need to try some other memory, but can C1 mean anything else, aside from memory detection error?
Cheers :D
Try Removing Battery for a while. Leave cmos jumper on clear.
Replace battery & jumper & try with a single stick.
Set Vdimm to match your memory stick, save bios & add 2nd stick
OK I am trying that now, thanks :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Supershanks
Fingers crossed I can get into the BIOS to bump the voltage and relax the timings.
Has anyone from OCZ been contacted regarding this? It seems there is an issue with this board and their sticks, one which a simple BIOS update may cure......
EDIT: I left it for half an hour, but it made no difference :(
You might need to repeat there's someone with the same issue here.IX38 C1-Errorcode
Thanks for the link :)
He was using OCZ PC8000 RAM too, but tried Kingston with the same results.......
In a way I hope it is a memory issue, as it is an easier fix than a DOA motherboard :(