Hmm...does this mean a flood of cheap pa120.x in the for sale section when this comes out :D Thank goodness for the xtreme addicts on this forum :D
Hmm...does this mean a flood of cheap pa120.x in the for sale section when this comes out :D Thank goodness for the xtreme addicts on this forum :D
Lol, I'm allready seeling of 3 of my old 102.3's now :p
using a PA140.X could eliminate the need for a second loop in some cases, I would like to think.
Given the surface area, even with 120mm fans and adapters so as to not have to buy 140mm fans...............
Is this to far fetched?
I like a lot the idea, and probably if they end up in production the reason to start a new rig. For a long time I was thinking in building my own PA160 shroud to use 140mm fans in them. The downside is the lack of really interesting 140mm fans.
I might eventually by one, if released. My Stacker can definitely fit it, but until my MCR-320 isn't sufficient i'd be hard pressed to upgrade.
That will be a monster. I wonder if we can get Ben at Mountain Mods to make the new UFO capable of holding them? I guess it would not be a cube but something like...
18w x 18d x 24h :woot:
Now im wanting a 140.2 even more than ever becacue I realize the top of my case is 150mm wide and it would be the perfect fit :D
It would be perfect for most cases, I would like to get one or two 140.2 or 140.3 for the floor of a case :)
that is what 120>140 adapters are for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gabriel Noraa
I'd only buy one if MMs designed a case that would accommodate it without modifications. It would also have to be significantly quieter than my P120.3 in order to justify spending the money on a new case/rad.Quote:
Originally Posted by SiGfever
If they make it to production I'm in for 2.
i may not buy one for a while, but whenever i get around to buying my PA's, if these are out, i'll get these.
Hey guys any updates on this project?
I would have bought one yesterday if I could. I can't wait until Thermochill starts making a PA140.x series. But what I heard by email from them earlier this week is that if they end up doing it, it may not be until next year--although later this year hasn't been ruled out. Maybe we need to deluge them with emails!
Im sure when they are ready to start making them they will (and spamming them wont help ;) )Quote:
Originally Posted by quonset.sun
i think they are trying to make demands for pa120.x meet, so till next year pa140.x...
Make a PA1XX series that fits exactly the width of a 5&1/4" bay and I'm sold. I'm building my PA120.3 into a CM Stacker with custom brackets to mount the rad as a front intake system.
If you designed a rad that fit EXACTLY into a 5&1/4" bay I'd be all over it, it would save a hell of a lot of time designing & manufacturing custom brackets.
hmm, it'd be interesting if it came with the holes to mount it right in the drive bay. not really that big of a point though since you'd still need to cut the top of the case. and in most cases, you'd need to dremel off the bar at the top of the drive cage as well
I'd buy one. But then I hope MM would put out some cases built for it (and for PA rads in the back too.)
Hrmm, I can't help but resurrect this. If it happens, I'll order a custom MM 22" cube and buy 2.
Actually, I would be quite pissed off if a PA140.3 or PA140.4 was released. Because I just bought a PA120.3 and I would not be able to afford the PA140. So, it's a bad idea.
EDIT:
Old thread :(
We are intel a making a mobo that has room to accommodate 4x V/c in SLi and dual cpu's its called skulltrail link tp://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer...off-skulltrailQuote:
Originally Posted by situman
my 2c's worth i think it would awsome i have seen even the early adopters of 140mm fans do very well very low dba and very high cfm
this should be locked, marci has already said there will not be a 140.x rad.
I've built at least ten rigs with PA160 rads and would definitely snatch up a half dozen of the 140.1 when they come available
I hope that "when" is accurate. I'm currnetly working on a 24" cube design I can send to MM for custom fab if these ever see daylight.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberDruid
isnt that a little excessive thats like 13824 cubic inches thats alot of room,:shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :eek2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthols
I want a PA160.4 lol ;)
You can never have enough room. Anyways I may set it up like a duality, considering what I'm looking at has 6 140mm fans in the front, 3 in the back, 4 120mm's in front, 2 in back and 4 on top. Not to mention 4 PSU mounts.Quote:
Originally Posted by pattherat111
Hrmm, that may be overkill. *shrug* guess it's called xtreme systems for a reason. Either way I'll build a 22" cube w/ 120.3's if Marci doesn't make the 140's. I think my wife is on board w/ me getting a new case since I promised to powder coat this one pink and give it to her.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Panthols
yer i decided to do basically the same but mines only a 22" cunbe i dont have much experience with sketchup so i cant do all the internals and the backplates
Would be a 140.3 straight away; would be nice if I could find low noise 140mm fans in the UK. They seem to be as rare as hens teeth around here
I would be very interested in a PA140.2, but I think 140.3 would be near impossible to fit in any normal sized case.
So wierd I was just thinking the other day about 140mm rads.
It could be like any other case out there. If it's well laid out, yes, that's a ton of room....BUT, if it's poorly laid out, it's gonna get cramped in a hurry.Quote:
Originally Posted by pattherat111
It's either gonna be a TJ07 or a Antec900. ;)
dunno if this has been said... but why not a shroud for a 160 that fits a 140 fan?
already exist.
Did he? I didn't ever notice that. I think there is enough need for the PA140.3/4Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
I personly want the 4 but thats me
he sent me a PM when I inquired about it, lemme see if i can dig it up...Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...2&postcount=35
^^ theres the post
considering that Thermochill clearly cant meet demand (ie OOS most places) so they clearly wont be dev'ing a new radiator
That was 8 months ago though, but yes it seems unlikely we will be seeing a PA140.X anytime soon...Quote:
Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
How would you fit a PA140.4 anywhere in/on a case? That's over 560mm long... :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete
Who said anything of it being a case, or one thats directly there to the marketQuote:
Originally Posted by Clockwork_Apple
:slobber: :hehe::up: :YIPPIE:
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Originally Posted by nealh
I definitely think there is a market for larger more adaptable rads... With as many people that are building custom cases from the ground up... you know there are owners that would go with the "biggest & baddest"...
Something in the lines of a setup that would be capable of linking more than one rad together... like PA 140.2x2 or a 3x3.... even if they went back to the 120mm standard... I would like a 3x3 setup! The rad should be more adaptable than it is... rads are do or die... when it comes to fitting them where you have room.
go for it!
hagatha
i spec'd up just a square case in sketchup and it fits a 140.3 easily mind you its 22" wide. It has enough room for two
At 36" tall and building, my next case ought to dwarf those.
Could easily fit 4x140.3s with a pair of 140.2s in the back and a 120.2 under the PSU. And it's NOT a cube. When I get the foot on it, I expect it to be near 4 foot tall, and 14 inches wide. It would all JUST fit, but it would fit.
um... aside from custom made ones... where?Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
where is Marci when hes needed ? :D maybe he can put some light on this :rolleyes:
Lian Li P80 has 3 140 MM fans in the front of the case.
Arf it seems googling around for 140mm rads just finds this thread :/ I'm looking at the Thermaltake Armor+ (Great reviews and I quite like it's features) which allows for two 140mm fans to be mounted on the bottom as intake which would be perfect for a 140.2 rad >.< Guess I'm gonna have to go with 120.2 in the mean time...
BTW you realize this thread hasn't been touched in almost 7 months?
Great, and i just bought a 120.3 to fit in my PC-P80 armorsuit xD Hehe! Guess ill throw that in the top panel and buy a 140.3 and put it in the front :cool:
140.3 :) 140.4 :d
Yeah I know but there's always the thought that continued interest might light a spark in thermalrights dev department ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by lowfat
For those who didn't take the time to read the first page, the 140.x are not actually being made, as far as I know they haven't even done a prototype yet, this was simply a discussion :P
ThermochillQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobly
What about Thermaltake? :lol:
Whoops! :D I guess it's getting late, so many thermaltakes, thermalrights and thermochills I'm getting all confused XDQuote:
Originally Posted by cyberspyder
No. :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Doesn't HWLabs hasve a 140x4?
http://www.docmicro.com/pieces/HWLab...1-4-_7433.html
Hm, so what's the news on this, not enough interest (or enough cases it can fit in) to make it viable? I only ask as things seem to have changed a bit, 120.4 rads were unheard of for me back when this thread was kicking the idea around, seems to be plenty more 140mm fans out now as well.
I'd think a PA140.3 would barely squeeze into a MM Cube... they have the space, might as well use it. :D
add high cfm fans, mix, stir, bake @ 400º for four fan header mod...bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
so is this actually coming out? or is it just like something they were thinking of trying because they were bored with 120mm fans?
Well, until TC can correct the "slight"....(:hm::rofl::ROTF:) supply problem, I'm afraid the following still stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobly
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Originally Posted by SNiiPE_DoGG
http://www.specialtech.co.uk/spshop/...08&cat=0&page=
Anybody know where this can be bought in US or Canada? I'd very much like to have it.
That and a 3 x 140mm.
Why?.....GT Stealths are the worst copper/brass rad you can buy. The fact that they made it bigger is only going to enhance the suck. It might actually match the MCR x20's now. Save your money and go with MCR's or BIP if you need a thin rad. Right now, there are NO good 140mm format rads.Quote:
Originally Posted by adpr_02
Sigh... Thank you for bursting my bubble:p: Thing is, I'm going to get myself another MCR320 pretty soon, but if a 140x3 came out that was any good, I'd go for that in a heartbeat. I would hate to buy the MCR320, and a month later sell it 'cause the 140s start coming out. .Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
So would a good deal of us here. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by adpr_02
AFAIK, BI is the only one to have a 140mm rad and I don't recall hearing about any other company that might actually have one coming down the pipe.
I'd buy a coupe 2x 140mm rads.
I'm not worried about space cause I use an external rad box.
This is a terrible idea. The industry is moving to smaller scales and you guys are going bigger. Why not do a triple pass 80mm rad? Smaller is better.
Ok, to sum things up, from peoples responses, it will merely be a personal preference at this point in time. BUT!! If it shows an increase in performance against its sister PA120.X, people WILL buy it.
Everyone wants performance gains.
lol :gay:Quote:
Originally Posted by mike8913
Remind me, what is this website called again?
Quote:
Originally Posted by 003
That was totally disrespectful and unnecessary. You have no place making comments that do not provide intelligent discourse on these forums.
Only if they can make it smaller while keeping the same heat load dispersal. While things are getting smaller, they dont seem to be getting any cooler.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike8913
Well, CPU's are getting cooler. The 45nm chips seem to have gone down the temp range a bit and I can only expect the same from the 32nm. Gpu's are still problematic as they can't get the power usage down enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zaskar
If thermochill could make a rad that was 80mm x 3 and had at least 80% of the cooling capacity of the 120.3, I would buy it immediately. This is why I suggest triple pass, to make up for the face loss.
Not enough though, unless you just look at how hot they run at stock non OC'd speeds. Overall they don't seem to get much cooler, they have a new format which runs hot, then a die shrink which runs a bit cooler, then a newer faster format that runs hot again, then another die shrink, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by mike8913
true, but again, if we can get the same cooling capacity on a smaller platform, i would def buy it.
Id still go with the 120.3Quote:
Originally Posted by mike8913
It has 20% more colling capacity and is less restrictive(than ur fictional 80.3 rad)
Who says im only going to cool 1 cpu with the rad? Gpus are hot as hell too. And while they are moving on to 45nm and smaller and thus reducing heat we get more cores making more heat again.
I think it will be a looooong time untill a 80.3 rad is enough for 1 high end computer.
Edit: Oh and another thing. The bigger rad i can get the more silent fans i can use (with the same heatload), Thus i will always go for the largest i can get. 140mm wide rad is a very good step in the right direction. Most cases is 200mm+++ wide, so 120mm is wasting alot of unused area. 140mm will fit perfectly in the drivebay.
We already got rads long enough, i want wider rads!
Like eXa said, things always get hotter with new cores before they go down again, not to mention GPU's are outrageously hot nowadays. A dual 80mm might cool a 1GHz P3 and a VooDoo2 card though.
Hehe it seems this thread will be constantly brought back up as people accidentally find it while searching but to summarise: ThermoChill is having a hard time meeting supply for demand of 120.X series and will not be designing a new rad any time new <<< That was the bottom line of the previous discussion, chances are it's still valid...
On a personal note, the case I'm planning to buy already has mounting holes for 140mm fans, I just wish I would get a rad to make more use of them XD
True, true. Let us engage in some friendly social discourse!Quote:
Originally Posted by mike8913
I was recently in contact with ThermoChill and they said that they are working on the successor to the PA120.X line. This is what I was told:
This was dated 4/24/08.Quote:
We are at the moment working on a new design that will increase the performance of our radiators. At the moment though this is only in the prototype stage and is very hush hush. The performance increase has to match any significant costs in production. We will probably see a 120.4 version to cope with the extremes of today's processors and graphics cards. We are looking towards a big performance increase and not just a slight increase, so we might be a while before we achieve this. But hopefully not too long.
I could use a good PA140.3 to mount on top of my Antec P190 case.
:ROTF: We will never see the end of this thread... which is great:yepp:!
I was planning on having 2 loops in my new setup, one for my 2xGPUs, and one for my CPU (and maybe NB), using TWO 2x120x38mm rads... but, I don't feel like squeezing it all into a case, and truly want the best single rad out there that can fit inside the top of my Rocketfish Lian-Li case. I want something that will provide enough for a dual GPU + quad CPU system that I may have in the future. Otherwise, I gotta do 2 separate loops (which sounds stupid for a nice fit in a case)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdwvw
I think it would be awesome to put a 140.2 in my empty drive bays, in addition to my PA 120.3 of course :)
The newest Lian Li huge towers use a row of 140mm fans in their front door. It would be a real dream if a radiator fitted on these without any modification... wink wink. The fan bolt hole spacing is of importance there (for dual and above).
We will never give up!Quote:
Originally Posted by adpr_02
We want 140.1 140.2 and 140.3 rads. Also i would like to have rad as long as 120.3 but 140 wide...(for 120mm fans with shroud)
lol. I never thought of that. It would be amazing if a company did thatQuote:
Originally Posted by eXa
Don't forget 140.4, if you're gonna go with 140mm you might as well go all the way :P
well shure. but it dont think any case would fit it internally as it would be too long. 120.4 is about as long as i would go... 140.4/120 would work tho...
How's come Marci doesn't come by XS anymore?:(
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eternalightwith
Read back about 9 months ago when we got an influx of self proclaimed experts ;)
It wasnt too friendly...
In fact any thread about the Apogee GTX alu top and corrosion would be a good place to look and see what this place was like for a while.
He posted 3 days ago....
No doubt Marci will keep an eye on this thread. Though i doubt he'll have any extra time to produce that 140.x series, he's got enough trouble producing enough 120.x's for everyone.
A good idea for ANY hardware outlet would be to produce:
* rad grills with mounting bolt holes that fit the Thermochills (and holes to mount everything on a case panel)
* shrouds that have 140mm fan holes (that would ideally match the Lian Li 140mm front fan pattern)
* conversion shrouds / brackets to mount the PA series vertically in 5.25" bays, or other places (tops of some watercooling-ready cases)
I 'd buy one,I thought it will be cool.
well this thread was stared in March, the last post(one above) was mid august...
Any new news on the PA140.x?
myself I'd be interested in a couple PA140.1, that is what i have room for, and only cool my CPU & NB
too bad they rate threads in stars instead of...:horse::horse::horse::horse::horse:
Unfortunately, the only real source we (XS) had inside TC was Marci and he no longer works there. TC is also under new ownership from what we hear and the new owner and their intentions are not known at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by MadHacker
I think a 140.4 would give TC a big advantage over competitors. I'm not saying the 120.3 isn't better than the MCR320, but the cost... if TC had the 140.3 radiator, and it were as successful as the 120.3, I think a lot more people would be going for this new extreme high-end solution.
Besides, my MCR320 isn't nearly filling up my case width. A 140mm would be awesome.
Im sure they have new desings but I dont think anything is going to happen until supply catches up to demand on there current product line. (wich is still a top performer in its form factor)