Will the Swiftech MC14 really fit next the HR-03?
Also still looking for a good chipset cooler for an XBX2 that won't get in the way of the HR-03
Will the Swiftech MC14 really fit next the HR-03?
Also still looking for a good chipset cooler for an XBX2 that won't get in the way of the HR-03
Bah, I was thinking about picking one of these up with a 8800GTX, but I might need those slots. Any other, more compact aftermarket sinks coming out soon?Quote:
Originally Posted by Omastar
Minsc, a Swiftech MC14 would easy fit under the HR-03 on the NVIO chip. Remember I'm talking about a single ramsink here, not a full sized chipset heatsink.
Kanten, with the enormous heat dump of an 8800GTX, I'd say the HR-03 Plus is a good buy, assuming you don't want to go SLI and/or have more than maybe one PCI card (assuming you have a fan on the HR-03 and have the fins oriented over the empty slots instead of behind the card). The size of this thing does present some practical orientation limits, as in your northbrige heatsink may impede mounting this heatsink over the back of the card, and for the other mounting orientation you pretty much chew up your adjacent PCI-E/PCI slots and are left with 2 free slots after installing a fan. I used a 92mmx38mm fan, btw.
With the size of the core, the power usage and the heat output of G80, your next best option is to go watercooling, not a more compact air cooler. :p: I suspect there'll be some nice dual slot solutions forthcoming, although I don't know how effective they'll be compared to Thermalright's offering. I'd like to see something with copper heatpipes/base, though.
Wow that thing is sick. :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
damn what to do .. get this for my 8800gtx .. or just wait for the 8900gtx ..
decisions decisions
Here's some pics mounted on a Leadtek 8800gts.
I cooled the hsi (until the replacement ships) with a copper monstersink ziptied around the pcb and some AS ceramique.
load temps dropped quite a bit and arctic silver is still setting in.
here are the pics. I mounted it upside down but I dont see a problem in temps. I didn't gain any mhz in o/c though :(
I mounted a 120mm Late Yoon fan with some zip ties. I must say it's a lot quieter now.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1173407664
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1173407596
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1173407596
it measures exactly 3.5 in. from bottom of pcb to top of the 120mm fan. (stacked config)
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1173407596
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1173407596
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omastar
Yeah, I'll probably need at least two PCI slots available, for my X-Fi and my wireless NIC. Haven't picked out a motherboard yet for my build, so I don't know how slot accessibility will be. Can't decide if I want to completely rule out any future SLI upgrade, so I'm contemplating whether a P5N32-E or another 680i (any rumors on NF7?) board would be a good choice or not.
Fanless HR-03 still > Stock right?
Fanless HR-03 should still do better than stock under load, moreso if you have good overall case airflow. And IMO, SLI is pointless unless you game at very high resolutions (1920x1200 with lots of detail or 2560x1600). A single 8800GTX should see you through all current games fine. As for PCI slot availability, I'm not sure. If possible, you'd want to mount the HR-03 so the actual heatsink extended over the back of the video card to spare your PCI-E/PCI slots. If I were you, I'd just go for a 680i board if you're in the market for SLI, otherwise 965/975 is fine, or R600. NF7 isn't gonna be out for a while, I presume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanten
I do all my gaming in 1680x1050, should that keep me in the market for a while? Regardless, SLI wouldn't be an immediate thing for me yet. I'll probably be getting a Lian Li v1000 series, supposed to have a good airflow I hear.
8800GTX will suit you fine for that resolution. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanten
Wow, I don't know if it's the angle but in that last pic it looks like the card sags quite a bit :(
Now it all begs two questions:
1. Which 680i board to choose.
2. Which NB heatsink will have enough clearance for the HR-03 to get around.
its the angle, same concerns I had with the HR-03, some review pics looked like it was ready to fall off, but after fitting one myself and looking at it, its fine. Both HR-03 models are deceptively light.Quote:
Originally Posted by james111
Yeah... the HR-03 that I had felt not that much heavier than the stock X1900XTX cooler. I'd imagine the 8800GTX cooler to be a bit heavier than the X1900 cooler... making it not that much heavy.
Guys do you think it would matter if the heatsink was above the card? I mean isn't that how heatpipes work? My heatsink is actually under the card so the heatpipes are going backwards. I did it this way so the fan would cool the mem and vrm also. Another reason I mounted this way is if I mount above the card I think i won't be able to access my ram as easily and I swap ram a lot. I can say my ram overclock is actually worse after mounting the H3-03 plus. Those little memsinks don't do jack. I was playing Northern strike last night after mounting the cooler and the game was crashing to the desktop. Gpu temp was around 60c while playing. I lowered the mem clocks and it played fine. This didn't happen with the stock cooler. I'm thinking of going back to the stock cooler since I gained no o/c from this $50 cooler however my core temps during load are about 10c lower. Maybe if I vmod the card I can justify the cooler but right now my card is maxed out no matter what the temps are. Just needs more voltage at this point. Maybe I'll try mounting the cooler above the card and then add a 2nd 120mm fan to the bottom of the card so i can cool the mem and vrm. What are your thoughts?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...1&d=1173407596
We keep seeing these impressive SLI set-ups, but then we get results for the heatsink with a fan. SLI will not allow fans on this sink, unless I am missing something. What are the temps on these in SLI in passive mode compared to stock? I suspect the temp difference is minimal, especially in a case.
Now how exactly would you use an SLI bridge in that Legion Hardware review? The heatsinks are so damn big, they extend over the SLI connector.
Houston, we have a problem.
The only way I could think of the SLI working is if the bottom heatsink is mounted the other direction. But judging from the scale of the motherboard you'll have a hard time not smacking into the bottom of your case.
Also, isn't one liable to have a problem with their NB heatsink mounting that way shown in the review?
I'm starting to have second thoughts about buying this thing, especially if I have any future SLI plans.
I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve by demonstrating the HR-03s CAN be mounted oriented over the back of the card (read: the NB heatsink may give you clearance issues depending on its height) when you can't even enable SLI due to the sheer awkwardness of the heatsinks themselves. I mean, I guess if you had one of the really long flexible SLI bridges you could make it work with Legion's configuration, but I'm not sure. You wouldn't really come into clearance issues with the bottom of the case if you had the HR-03s mounted the other way--you just wouldn't be able to use two cards, and with a fan especially, you'd be eating up about 3 extra slots. I'm going to just come out and say this is not a well thought out solution for SLI/Crossfire due to NB clearance issues and the inability to use dual cards if you should choose to mount the HR-03 the other way.
Motherboards in general aren't very well thought out solutions for SLI/Crossfire. Some people need those other slots.
The only way to remedy it would be to space the slots out further without increasing the number of expansion slots. For example, start production on EATX variants of common high end motherboards, then you'd have more breathing room. Or maybe just go to MATX, 14"x16" or whatever. :p:
I don't think that if the bottom cooler was mounted the other way, that it would hit the bottom of the case. You'd also have one available PCI slot right above the bottom graphics card, I think. What I do know is that you'd need to have a case with excellent airflow and a side mounted fan. Antec 900 comes to mind.
It'd be nice, but realistically I don't see it happening. EATX or larger variants would mean basically a complete overhaul of the PCB/traces/VRM locations and so forth. Asus, abit, DFI, Foxconn, etc. are likely too cautious to go through with it just to space out expansion slots a bit. It'd mean putting a good deal of capital up for an unknown return. I'm sure enthusiasts would love it as ATX boards are getting very cramped, but you know most companies would rather give the illusion of catering to the enthusiast rather than actually doing it. The trend seems to be cramming more PCI-E slots onto the standard ATX 12"x9.6" PCB and that leads to a complete inability to use anything beyond single-wide graphics cooling solutions AND utilize your other assorted PCI(-E) cards in the instance of double or triple wide cooling solutions.
Aforementioned multiple-slot cooling solutions are also partly to blame, but there aren't many other solutions to increasingly hotter GPUs (for stock, that is) besides growing the size of the HSF itself. Obviously watercooling alleviates these concerns in SLI/CF, but watercooled video cards will never be mainstream (aside from the anomalous BFG 8800GTX waterblock editions).
So how many reviews are there for this cooler? Can't find any myself.
http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=624
enjoy :toast:
I've got it sitting @ home waiting for me, but now I'm not so sure. The only reason I got the original HR-03 was because of the noise from the X1900XT's fan/shroud. The stock NV cooler's plenty quiet and w/ an Antec Blower, the load's around 76C in a 25C room temp. Anyone else have memory oc issues?
uh are these shipping with the extra hs for gts yet?
Quick question, will I be able to mount a 12cm fan on one of these? Can they be mounted so that they don't go over the back of the gfx card but sit directly infront of it? (like the zalman VF900)
EDIT: Nevermind :confused: just read the thread right through, tnx hotrodtheman for the review and picks, helps out a lot. :clap:
it's weird.... the gtx and gts cant have a different hsi chip? surely?
also, ive contacted thermalright and thecoolingshop.com and they both say the hr-3 plus is compatable with both and didnt seem to know what i was talking about in regards to the gtx and gts difference
I e-mailed Thermalright last week and they said that once the HSI heatsinks do arrive, anyone who already bought one can just e-mail them a copy of their invoice and they'll send the heatsink directly to you.
BTW, Newegg finally started selling the HR-03 Plus. At least they know enough to add the notice that the GTS requires the different HSI heatsink:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835109136
BTW, if I choose to get an HR-03 Plus and use a 120mm fan on it, will I be able to attach the fan to my 8800 GTS and control the fan speed through Control Panel or RivaTuner? I'm guessing not but I figured I'd ask.
Dear Hank,
Regarding the HR-03 PLUS on 8800 GTS cards (not GTX) I saw an email you sent to 'Anthony' on a forum:
From: Hank Peng (Thermalright, USA) [mailto:hpeng@thermalright.com]
Sent: 06 March 2007 09:40
To: Anthony
Subject: RE: support
Sorry Anthony,
I should’ve added that if you’re a GTX owner you should be fine.
Otherwise a free HSI heatsink will be provided given that the heatsink was purchased from a legitimate reseller.
Thank you.
Best Regards,
Hank Peng
Customer Relations/ Product Marketing/ Public Relations
I noticed the HR-03 PLUS was now for sale on NewEgg.com. I contacted their customer support and they could not confirm that a free HSI Heatsink would be included for 8800 GTS owners. So either they are not a legitimate reseller or they didn't get the memo. :) Could you talk to them please?
I would like to order this from NewEgg for my 8800 GTS but I can't be sure I'm going to get a proper heatsink for the HSI.
Thanks,
Minsc
Well I just placed the noose around my neck and ordered the EVGA 8800GTX KO w/ HR-03 Plus cooler & SilverStone RL-FM91 92mm case fan & Swiftech RAM/Mosfet sinks. The only question left in my mind, other than how am I going to explain this to my wife, is which way to mount this thingy.
I only have an X-Fi card right now and don't plan on SLI so I think I will mount it the way a previous poster mounted his that way the fan will be blowing towards the RAM and Mosfets. I should get it on Friday so until then :toast:
Is there any advantage using the Swiftech RAMsinks etc over those provided with the HR-03?
I don't know which RAM sinks are provided with the cooler, nothing was specified over at NewEgg, but they are probably not pure copper.
lol...yeah :clap:
Usually I can slip things past her because she's away at school when UPS/FedEx delivers but she's home for spring break this week and I am too impatient, as usual, to wait another week.
I'm sure I'll get the :nono: and the threat of an :slapass: if I do it again, hahaha.
Thermalright now says on their website that the HSI heatsink for the 8800 GTS won't be available until the end of March, changed from mid-March.
Well I got everything installed and I just want to say that this thing rocks!!!
Core: 626MHz
Memory: 999MHz
Shader: 1458 MHz
W/ HR-03
Idle: 44-46C
Load: 56C (3DMark06)
Room Temp: 25C
W/ ACS3 installed
Idle: 54C
Load: did not test
Nice temps TouGe. Which way do you have the HR-03 mounted, on top of the PCB or below the Core and Memory? And which way is the fan blowing?
So whats the best install for this on a gtx. Type 1 or Type 2 fixing to pick one up since Summer is right around the corner for us Texans..
im very pissed off about the late release of the hsi chip cooler :(
quietpc.com and thecoolingshop.com arn't going to bother due "to lack of interest" and the gjitt i spoke to at thermalright didnt know what i was talking about *sigh*
Uhm, yeah....
The distance from the vid card to the bottom of the fan is greater than 3" but less than 3.25"--there is some flex in the card so its hard to be exact unless I power down my computer and take the card out. Please don't ask me to power down my computer :D. The fan itself is 25mm wide.
You can get the height of the heatsink from their website and just factor in the fan width, that's what I did.
And yes, you will definitely need a fan....
I hope that helped.
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/6708/pict0011gd7.jpg
This is a GTS with the standard hr-03 plus, so without the new HSI heatsink. As you can see the user modded it himself to make it fit, seems kinda easy? :)
Can you still use that HSI heatsink on a GTX after it's been modded like that?
No, sadly not. Well possibly if you make the heatsink go at an awkward angle it might work.
weird, that pic doesnt show the heatsink at a aquard angle?
hey that is my 8800 GTS :) :)
i cut the smal bit in the HSI heatsink with a dremmel.
I´m using the HR-03 Plus with a Silenx 120x120x38 mm, 72 cfm :D :D :D :
http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/1760/pict0001sn7.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/2490/pict0005ln6.jpg
http://img358.imageshack.us/img358/8756/pict0015yk3.jpg
I didn´t get more oc from the card, i´m using it @ 645/1970.
The temps dropped almost 15ºC at full using the ATITool. Now i have 53ºC
@ load and 40ºC in the windows with a ambient temperature of 20ºC
Yeah sorry, saw it in the other thread and thought I would link it here =D
here you have the HSI heatsink to the 8800 GTS:
http://www.pcper.com/images/reviews/381/HSI-2.jpg
since the berks in the uk shops dont want to get the gts version in 'because there isnt the demand' looks like im going to have to mod the hsi
Picked this up yesterday for my GTS... one question
Did everyone seat the stock ram heatsinks with Ceramique? The heatsink pads barely gave any adhesion at all, especially the "C" heatsinks...
Confirm?
ive just ordered on from tekheads.co.uk since there one has the GTS HSI chip included.
Battle_Rage + Origin_Unknown, can you please post some results when you install the Cooler? Thanx :cool:
I still just wish there was a lower-profile solution, that thing is a big honking system with a fan attached.
I just got an RMA for mine. Aside from the "can't use more than one pci slot" issue, the 8800's current fan is not only quiet, but works well if the fan speeds increased a little bit. It's louder, but at least your not playing "leaning tower of card" w/ the pcb + 2 tall heatsink + fan.
Surely arctic cooling will have something soon that doesn't cost $75+ w/ fan and shipping. :(
PS. I had the HR-03 for the X1900 and never really cared for the crazy size/droop, but there really was no other choice. ;)
mines currently at home :woot: so ill install after work!!
Jesus, are they stuck on with wet paper? the sticky tape on the 'c' sinks (which cover the vot regs??) is rubbish, one of mine kept falling off with only the slightest touch! maybe it was because the card hadnt been turned on yet and the glue hadn't had time to bond to the chips? but after a turn on of the machine it "seems" to me attached ok now.
here's a few pics of the install.... then onto test results.
Couple of pictures of the heatsink just out of the box
http://img159.imagevenue.com/loc458/..._122_458lo.jpg http://img162.imagevenue.com/loc423/..._122_423lo.jpg http://img152.imagevenue.com/loc399/..._122_399lo.jpg http://img104.imagevenue.com/loc953/..._122_953lo.jpg
The new moddified HSI chip
http://img148.imagevenue.com/loc561/..._122_561lo.jpg
Front and back of the card / original cooler
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I cant get over why companys use this crap on there cards
http://img138.imagevenue.com/loc446/..._122_446lo.jpg
Naked :stick:
http://img168.imagevenue.com/loc408/..._122_408lo.jpg
This is how the beast looks attached to the card (with 120mm fan)
http://img160.imagevenue.com/loc384/..._122_384lo.jpg
The guide says to use these thumb screw like ... er .. screws on the other side but so i could fit the card in with my NB cooler i switched sides.
http://img139.imagevenue.com/loc342/..._122_342lo.jpg
This is the beasty mounted in my poor little case
http://img171.imagevenue.com/loc445/..._122_445lo.jpg
Now onto the quick test results!!
Machine idle'n @ stock speeds for E6600 and for gfx.
Cpu - 16 & 17degrees.
GPU @ 53degrees
http://img132.imagevenue.com/loc573/..._122_573lo.JPG
Machine running ORTHOS & ATI tool artifact scanner for 10 mins.
Cpu - 33 & 32degrees.
GPU @ 71degrees :eek:
http://img145.imagevenue.com/loc465/..._122_465lo.JPG
Machine idle'n @ stock speeds for E6600 and for gfx but with HR-03-Plus installed.
Cpu - 20 & 19degrees.
GPU - 43degrees.
http://img126.imagevenue.com/loc454/..._122_454lo.JPG
Machine running ORTHOS and ATI tool artifact scanner with HR-03-PLUS installed.
CPU - 35 & 34degrees.
GPU - 51degrees
http://img165.imagevenue.com/loc549/..._122_549lo.JPG
the cpu temps were a bit odd but there was a few hours inbetween doing the first two tests and then doing the 2nd two tests.
To fit the cooler in with the HR-05-SLI i had to take the chipset cooler out and bend the heatpipes and the fins forward so it tilted towards the cpu socket (maybe this explains the higher cpu temps)
But overall im happy with the HR-03-Plus. It brought the full load temps of my GPU down to UNDER the idle'n temps of the stock cooler.
Like i said earlier my only niggle is the crappy tape on the 'c' heatsink but ill have to keep my eye on that for a few days untill im happy the heatsink isnt just going to fall off mid game and ruin my nice 8800GTS.
Hopefully this post has made some sence as im tired and really should be going to bed :D
Excellent results! :D
Did the lower temps give you any benefits in more MHz in the Core/Memory?
sorry to go a lil of topic but i remember seeing a thread with some bloke and 1 or 2(?) 8800s & HR-03 installed on them, but he had bend the heat pipes 90degrees - anyone know where this thread is so i can view the pics?
With a custom home made clamp could this cooler be fitted to the 7x cards or is the GPU in the wrong place.
i think in that case you would use the HR-03-RevA http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...hr03_Rev_A.htm
there is a compatability list for cards - http://www.thermalright.com/a_page/m...t_hr03_MCL.htm
just incase anyone is wondering my card is currenty @ 660 / 1900.
Any higher on the core (670) and the machine reboots and any higher on the memory (2000) and the card artifacts.
Still im very happy though. Get's just under 10k in 3dm06 with the machine in my spec
@Origin_Unknown
I know about the HR-03-RevA and the compatability list thanks but i wondered
if the HR-03 Plus with a custom clamp could be made to fit other cards as the HR-03 Plus has an extra two pipes with an extra 100w of cooling over the HR-03-RevA.
Alright, I caved.
8800GTX 630/2000
158.19
HR-03 Plus
Scythe SFLEX E 1200RPM
AC MX-1 TIM
Room temp: 25C
Idle 45C
ATI Tool + RTHDRIBL 57C
In general the overall "heat pileup" w/ the stock cooler's gone. I made sure to press the little sinks on tough and none have fallen off. The only :banana::banana::banana::banana::banana: I have...the HSI gets pretty hot and the little flat RAM jobbies get EXTREMELY HOT!! I sure wish TR would design a solution to angle up so we can use the normal RAM sinks. The true test will be finding out of RAM OC's still stable. Pics tomorrow...
EDIT: Just ran 3D2K6 and it tops out @ 56C, lol. That's almost a 30C drop from stock!
EDIT2: pics!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...h_IMG_1919.jpg
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Old thread, but I'm buying the HR-03 and have a question.
Are the original ram sinks that bad? Is it worth buying the swifttech ones?
If they do fall off would they cause the 8800 to fry?
Thanks ;o
Long time reader first time poster =p
think i can mod that to fit on a 1950pro?
Apparently there's some lame sticky thermal pads. I used 99.9% alc from fry's and pressed them on for a good 20-30 seconds each. Then I let em sit for awhile...no rush. Not a single one has ever fallen out and I've been to 2-3 LAN parties since installing it a few months ago.
I'll tell you what, tho, that video I/O and the little bitty sinks get REALLLY hot! I would have loved to seen a bigger I/O sink and a curved pipe so the 3 ram chips in the middle could have normal sized sinks.
Aside from that, it idles around 50C and loads maybe 65C here in sunny AZ!
at first i was a bit worried as the sticky tape on the back of the VREG (c heatsinks) was not very tacky and came off with the slightest knock. After a bif of a burn in the tape bonded to the vreg's and now is on quite secure.
you could replace some of the heatsinks for the ram but the ones under the heatpipes you will not be able to replace so easly.
BTW, did you guys lap the bottom part of the heatsink? It looks the same as ultra 120 extreme, it will give better temperatures that way
Nah the base isnt that bad... it's lapable though.... (lapable? lol)
Here's a heads up... the Asus p5K-D P35 I have (and I assume all P35's) are not at all friendly to this card in conjunction with a sound card... the bottom of the 92mm fan nearly SITS on top of my X-fi Platinum... as it stands, I'm going to sell this on ebay and get a better solution...
I'm getting either an Abit P35 or a Gigabyte P35, can you post pictures to show what the problem is?
And thanks for the quick response guys.
That's MX-1.
The Asus Commando also had a lower 1st PCIe slot that gave me very little room when using a 120 on top (er bottom?) of HSF. I wound up w/ the DFI and there's almost an inch or two of space for air to move.
See here... I have to have some rubber separating the Fan from the sound card...
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...e/P1010019.jpg
It is nearly pointless to have the HR-03 in this configuration... Idle is 54c at stock clocks and an ambient of 25c. On my P5B-D, unimpeded idle was 44c
A thought strikes me, and that thought is: why don't you just put that the other way 'round? All that'll do is take up space over your PCI-E 1x, which you aren't using anyway.
Final question does this void my warranty?
Technically yes. Use of any after-market cooling will render your warranty void.
However, if you save all the stock cooler parts, you can usually re-attach the cooler before you send in your card for RMA with noone the wiser. What they don't know won't hurt 'em :p: