don't go on what others say works for them..every cpu, mobo and memory are different in performance...if you need juice, let it have it....don't be afraid to increase voltage....very short term is not going to hurt you!
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don't go on what others say works for them..every cpu, mobo and memory are different in performance...if you need juice, let it have it....don't be afraid to increase voltage....very short term is not going to hurt you!
trusty old IBM ps2 keyboardQuote:
Originally Posted by Ace-a-Rue
Hi dinos22Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
I have the exact same problem, I have 1x raptor with my OS and 2x250Gb RAID1 Hitachi Deskstar set up raid1 and restart to boot into windows and crashes on the window scroll bar screen :rolleyes:
Like yourself disabling raid boot into window try to install the Intel driver and it want let me either,
Did you get it sorted or did you reinstall the OS?
Thanaks
Day187
H[/I]
damn manQuote:
Originally Posted by day187
so did you install those raid drivers in the initial F6 install? >>>> cause i didn't
i've tried absolutely every suggestion and nothing helped :( i guess i'll reinstall but would be good if you can answer my question
This is an issue not really related to overclocking but I used my WD 74GB Raptor as my boot drive. When I put the windows install disk in, i began a full format. At the end of the format it gave an error somewhere along the lines of: "Format failed, SCSI drive not properly terminated." There were no termination jumpers on the board nor hdd so I swapped sata cables and tried again and all is well now. I had an old sata cable that worked fine with my old AXP system but form some reason i had to use the asus sata cables for the drive to be recognized.
Well, mark me up as another one who can't run stable at 320-400.
I tried 400, it failed, but I said, well, let's just try something > 400.
So I booted to 405 on auto settings and just finished 32m Super Pi. the mobo set itself to 1.55v, ouch!
Unfortunately temps are too hot for this overclock. All I want is a working 2700-2800mhz for daily use. Is that too much to ask Asus?
What's really ironic is this is faster than my PIV 2.4c, which I could never get over 3100 successfully.
405 x 7 ftw ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
Do you have an E6300/E6400? All of these type of stories I've read have been with the 2mb chips, NOT the 4mb ones.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
the cable could have a cracked head and therefore making poor contact with the pins on either end...or...the cable is just breaking down.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
Yup, I have an e6400. I'm pretty sure Asus still hasn't fixed the memory issues, as everyone knows anything but 1:1 ratio doesn't work over 300FSB either. Small FFT test with Orthos is fine at FSBs of 320-400. Memtest also ran fine at those speeds.
The 0609 beta BIOS fix the 4/5 divider issue but once you get over 400 fsb the memory timings change and it ends up limiting memory bandwidth.
edit: I meant 4/5 divider...
Quote:
Originally Posted by dinos22
NO mate i'm in the same boat looks like installing windows again and install the driver the F6 way, i thought i could install the driver in windows and add raid1 after but no luck!!!!!!
:rolleyes:
Fellas (and ladies?)
Using the 2:3 divider with fsb in the mid to high 300s ( =DDR1000+) I no longer get the strange "reboot twice" issue. When i restart, it is a "normal" restart.
I think the weird restarts are caused by the 1:1
[edit] and as soon as I posted this, it did the weird restarts again... this happened at 2:3 fsb = 385, ddr1155
lads, i need urgent help.
i sold my badaxe and bought this...now....on the bad axe my e6400 es (step 4 rev b0) biffed out at 3.26 ghz but i cant get it to overclock at all on this board...its got the 0607 bios and will run fine at stock but as soon as i play it goes berserk...wont boot and wont go to bios, there must be something im missing. my ram is generic 1gb x 2 ddr 667 that was running at 1067mhz fsb on the bad axe at 2.2v no problem so im sure its not a speed related issue on the ram.....
can someone point me to a thread with all the settings or give me there settings and i can check them against mines.....
need help urgently..... power supply etc is not an issue and im on water....
cheers
Gordy!:(
anyone else getting bios locks when trying to save vcore voltage changes? I'm having this on 0507.
After hitting F10 and then enter, the bios just freezes. Sometime I can cut the power and boot and everything will be fine (and settings changed) and other times i have to reset cmos.
my bios locks when I try to do 500fsb although I only tried it 1:1 I know my ram is good for 522 at least.
0609 has given me best results so far I have gotten 3.2 prime stable at 400x8 with 4:5's and 356x9 with 4:5's ram at 445 with 4-4-4-12 timings is faster than 400x8 with 500 ram and 5-4-4-12 timings in 1m at least
i will try 0609 and see what happens...
gordy!
The only time I get a bios freeze while trying to save settings is when I try to save and exit while in the hardware monitor sub menu. It'll make the changes but won't ever reboot so i'll manually have to turn off the computer and turn it back on.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
On a side note why isn't this thread a sticky yet. We need some P5B loving.
link for 0609 bios anyone plz?
0609 BIOS Here : http://www.iamxtreme.net/andre/P5B-ASUS-Deluxe-0609.rar
There's a thread discussing them here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=113866
thanks...not happening with that either...im going to fire my e6600 in and see what happens...
will update you in a short while....
:mad:
well.....my setp 6 rev b2 retail e6600 is no different....scraching my head now...need definative settings from someone please....(pics would benice)
help me please...
Gordy!:confused:
yes i get the bios locks 7/10 when going over 500fsb :(
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH!:mad:
i reinstalled the OS and now the system boots in raid........it was just driver related
but for some reason the other windows i was going to convert into a benching OS was completely wiped from boot.ini file >>> looks like it doesn't like dual XP boot or something donno :confused:
ninjagordy I feel your pain.
My 6400 went 420fsb 1:1 but high temps.
I lapped the heatsink....it was terrible. Now its 3C cooler
but I can't get anywhere... with it or a 6600
Its like I hit some magic settings and all was perfect.
NOW I can't get anything to work correctly. The 6400 won't go
over 350 and the 6600 runs all stock settings at 333 but won't do
anything over that...not even 334 with any setting.
Just my personal opinion but I think that asus choice of bios sucks
BIG TIME
sparks
hey lads, im going to get some G.Skill HZ today and see if that helps, i will flash it back to 0507 and try that also........ if that doesnt work the boards getting rma'd and i will swap it for another one......
cheers lads.
a very sad Gordy! :(
I've got a similar problem and I think it's the memory.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparks
running ocz 4200eb rev2's and I can't get anywhere past 240 large fft's in orthos even though it'll run for hours with small fft's
Are you sure you're at 1:1 RAM ratio?
Just forget about overclocking at all with another divider. It doesn't work at any speed except maybe 10mhz over stock.
seems like it's the ram not liking the board. dinos22 had the same problem with board and ram.Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
Just ordered some G.Skill 6400 HZ's which should hopefully fix it
lads, just home from work...oh ..whats this in my hand....its 2gb G.Skill hz ddr 800.....let the fun commence..(fingers crossed!):p:
I thought the consensus was NO module works with dividers yet. Has anyone gotten 4/5 to work at anything other than stock?
No go with Corsair TwinX 6400 (5-5-5-15).
0609 bios will work with 4/5 divider
4:5 works fine....Quote:
Originally Posted by sluzbenik
4:5 does not work with 0507.Quote:
Originally Posted by pcdoc1
2:3 works fine with 0507.
I'm on 0507 and CPU-Z shows 4:5.
Is there a point to this... ?Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
got the subj, burned laetst bios (from 30/08/2006) - everything seem to be just fine.
the question is: I have Conroe ES (6600, 2.4Ghz, 4MB cache) + Zalman 9500 LED (2500 rpm all the time) and while trying to make ram:fsb ratio 1:1, I've set the ram frequency to 400 (800 effective) and cpu multplier to 8. (3.2Ghz)
cpu started up just fine - nothing was changed by me in voltage department - windows xp runned fine, but when checking CPU temperature I found it to be ... 85C ! incredible.. how the hell it was started at all ? why motherboard did not prevent it.
moreover, I've set multipler to be 6 - 2.4Ghz, same as default clock rate for that cpu. temperature dropped, but it still was 75C.
and think about it - I'm talking about cpu temperature under idle, no serious load applied...
ofc, I did reinstalled cooler to make sure its OK, no help.
default settings (266 -> 533, 2:3 ratio, 1066 to CPU, 800 to ram, 2.4Ghz) made CPU to be 40C all the time in idle.
I know ES are hotter since double cache and ... es :) but ... not THAT much ?!
well lads......all is now good......
thank heavens for G.Skill HZ all my issues are well well gone
:woot:
New ram fixed me right up :) The OCZ guys have great support.
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/965...tledes3.th.png
(Yea, it's not much, but before I couldn't go over 375. I can probably push it higher!)
I have a problem :(
day before my new PC come I installed windows XP SP2 on this configuration:
E6300
P5B Dlx wifi
2x512 533mhz kingmax
7600gt
and everything went perfectly but day later my problems started :(
I got this PC from sig and installed windows without any problems.I installed a few programs and it started to restart after 5-100 minutes after I boot windows. Sometimes he restarts when I'm not doing anything.:mad:
Everything is default and a littlebit later I flashed bios 0405.
I tried prime and when I start torture test after some time it shows: rounding was 0.5 expected less than 0.4
Please help :(
Do any of you know where to manually read the actual Ram\CPU voltage on this motherboard? I have a DMM, I just don't know which points to use.
your cpu seems to be flawed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartguy
Overclocked?
Try rise vcore one notch if that is the case.
your cpu seems to be flawed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartguy
Try rise vcore one notch if that is the case.
or try another bios maybe 0507 should work for you.
I run memtest86 for 4 hours and no errors. But so far it is stabile. I flashed new 0609. Can somebody tell me where do I change multiplier? I used to have abit boards and their bios.
I smell stability :banana:
after I flashed with 0609 BIOS, prime is runing for an hour now. :toast:
before 10 minutes was limit.
EDIT: I think it is stabile now. ;)
this is what I achive in last five minutes:
http://img147.imageshack.us/img147/9793/3240he5.jpg
Smartguy,
What settings are you using? Would you mind sharing as I have the same set-up as you.
Thanks
Hay guys, where are all the memory timing options in the bios? Oh, and I love this board so far. Everything is up and running and the hardest part was finding the disk with the drivers on it.
North Bridge configuration.Quote:
Originally Posted by mkorpal333
@Wizzo
Vmem= 1.385V
Vdimm= 2.1V
everything else= auto
speed spectrum= distabled
speed step= distabled
@mkorpal333
advanced>northbridge>and distable or enable something "SPD"
I'm so happy that everything is workin fine now. I will post results when I set up watercooling ;)
Thanks guys. I'm running at 333 fsb right now. Everything seems to be good so far.
I have my new P5B Deluxe all setup and running great, but I have one last issue. I cannot figure out a way to boot to a DOS prompt and flash to the new bios.
1) My suspicion is that my floppy drive won't read ANY floppy. (broken floppy?)
2) I do not have a USB thumb drive.
Now what? I tried my CD bootdisk but when I get to the dos prompt it won't recognize ANY of my hard drives?
I've just setup my Allendale E6400 in my new P5B Dlx.....running at 3.4ghz/1.376v :)
I used the AsusUpdate utility from within winXP to update the bios on my board.
me to :)Quote:
Originally Posted by bito
Well I'll be getting mine system soon as well.
Asus P5B Deluxe WiFi-AP with E6600 and 4x 1Gig sticks of G.Skill PC6400 :)
I got NO BOOT with 0507 + GSKILL PC6400HZ. 0609 Fixed it tho.
Got this right after updating BIOS to 0609.
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7...x9piln5.th.jpg
Will tune it later on...
I have a quick question for anyone running a GX2 on the P5B-D. Is it showing up as running at 8x in the 16x PCI-E slot? I'm guessing it's giving 8x to each card so that's why mine is showing up as only being at 8x but I can't confirm it. Does anyone know for sure?
I've looked around and have never been able to get a definite answer.
Um...just a small question...
WHY ISN'T THIS THREAD A STICKY YET?
:)
This board is one of the most capable C2D boards out there. It deserves to be on top.
:toast: :banana: :banana: :banana: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
:with: :with: :with: :with: :with:
4.0 Ghz:toast:
Processor: e6400, Allendale
Bios Revision: 0507
Memory: Team Xtreem 2x1GB, 667 3-3-3-8
vCore: 1.475
vFSB: Auto
vNB: Auto
vMem: 2.250
Configured FSB: 500
Configured Ratio: 8
Configured Memory Timings: 4-4-4-11
C1E and SpeedStep off, Locked PCI Express Frequency locked at 101, PCI Sync Mode at 33.33
BIOS version?? :)
0507 - came that way.
Incredible clocks... you have a stellar chip, 4GHz at less than 1.5 vcore!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Avman
:toast: :banana: :toast:
Killer OC man!
update:
http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/39/3420fp7.jpg
under 15sek :p
Yep - That extra 2MB cache really helps with Spi - I debated with myself about whether to get a 6400 or a 6600 but after seeing more than a few posts about lower clocking 6600's I figured I might be better off doing my 'Intel Learning' on a more forgiving chip. Seems like I got lucky.
vapo cooling? is it stable? no way to get all the way up there with normal cooling since the NB will overheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avman
with 0609 I can't boot 400FSB. It frezes in bios when i press enter on save and exit.
anybody know what to do??
Smartguy - have you cpecified voltages for ram/cpu manually ? and timers for ram ? mine have 5-5-5-18 in SPD, but when I set it to use SPD in BIOS, it will boot with 4-4-4-12, as it was for 266Mhz...
and you know that P5B-D BIOS will pump up CPU voltage sky-high if you dont set it manually when go for 400 ? ;) I found C2D 6300 will get around 1.56v in auto mode for 400...
i put:
vcore 1.45v
vmem 2.3v
Other voltages I raised just a litle bit.
Memory hasn't reach 800mhz so it is not her. timings are 5-6-6-18
q: is there any tool to change fan speeds on P5B-D ? even Q-Fan thingy in BIOS does not work for me (Zalman 9500 always stays on max, both case fans too). tried speedfan 4.29, it seems does not support this MB yet.
any solution ?
Nope, waiting for it too since starting on P5B Deluxe, Asus has been using the latest Winbond W83627DHG chip for multi I/O and Sensor/Fan management on their latest mid to high end mobo fleet, and it seems like none of the software out there now support it.Quote:
Originally Posted by yury2808
SpeedFan author already acknowledged this limitation and probably working toward to support it in next release.
What strange is Winbond still doesn't want to release the detail spec sheet for this particular chip.
Never use Zalman though, I guess it is using 3 wires fan instead of standard 4 wires like the one came with stock intel cooler.
This mobo has 5 fan connectors and only 2 have Q-Fan enabled, try plug the Zalman fan cables at the one labeled Power (3 pins) instead of the standard one for CPU which required 4 pins fan to work properly.
Through BIOS this Power fan pins can be properly controlled by Qfan such as Optimal, Silent or Performance.
As far as I see, Bumping VCORE a bit more should do the trick! 1.5V will be a good start. E6600 needs a lil bit more sometimes!Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartguy
I have achieved 500X7 = 3.5Ghz on my E6400 and I am VERY pleased with this.
However, I have noticed 2 bugs. The double restart with this motherboard. It takes 2 tries to boot up after cold boot/restart.
Second, System Properties under the General Tab as well as Core Temp Beta both report clock speed using the default multiplier although I am using 7x.
These 2 issues are very minor considering the speeds I have been able to achieve, but fixing these issues in a future bios would make this mobo just about perfect.
This should be a sticky considering this seems to be a better board than the 975x brothern... Im going to order one. Looks like it may be the board i need.
Quote:
Originally Posted by harshal
problem is that i lover the multiplier to 8x and put 400FSB and he frezes again :stick:
Yes this should be a "sticky"..
Hey I joined in the p5b-deluxe club.. I got a question.
Why in the boot up screen does my 6400 plat. rev.1 read "pc2-4300" on my p5b-deluxe, running bios 609?
Is there something I missed in the bios?
Dram freq. was set at "266" when I first started out.
I'm currently at 8x300, 44415.
Probably boots at PC2-4300 for compatibility reasons.
It reads pc2-6400 in cpu-z.. Wierd.
So I guess I have the right selection in the dram freq.? What if I were running 266 and selected "800" in the dram freq.? What does that do?
Only when you're running 400FSB or higher, 1:1, will it read 6400.
Distortion in audio playback.
Bios: 0609
Initially @ 450x8 but i figured i had fsb that was too high so i clocked down to stock and still got the distortion. i also plugged in my headphones to make sure my speakers weren't crapping out... same result.
Best way to describe it is crackling of higher frequencies. it only becomes noticable when at full volume in windows (not full volume on speakers though).
ALSO,
a warning to anyone using AsusUpdate tool to flash bios in windows... you cannot flash to an older bios. I flashed to 0609 (08/30/06) yesterday and was going back to 0507 (08/10/06) today but the tool will not allow it. Now I have to find a floppy :(
Yes you can. Just check the bios downgradable box in options.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brahmzy
So what should the dram freq be set at?
For overclocking, just do 1:1 - the first option. At stock speeds that will be 533
If you set it to auto, the bios will read the SPD but only 607 seems to handle dividers well. So it might not even boot and but has nothing to do with your overclock.
I haven't tried it yet, I only have one computer, can't afford to let it run a leaker beta bios.
Thank you.
BTW, I'm running the 609's atm and so far at 8x400 with 4,4,4,15 with my 6400platz. rev.1 Ocz'z.
Has anyone come up with an explanation for the double boot? Double restart? If you don't know what I am talking about when I do a cold boot or restart, the computer boots up for 1 second turns off, and then turns on a second time and boots up fine.
I think it's applying the bios settings personally, but yeah, it's annoying & disturbing.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottFern
My setup for the last year has been a AMD 64x2 4400+ which at the time smoked the Intel chips. But I have to say after seting up my new system I'm impressed! I tried to upgrade to a AMD 64x2 4600+ with 2 different boards but didn't see any real improvement since they decided to pretty much kill the 2x1G Cache. So I did a little research and ended up with the Intel E6400/P5B Deluxe Board package from Fry's. I also picked up 2 sticks of 1G OCZ PC2 6400 (800Mhz) Gold Memory.I had a Gforce PCI-E 7600GS video card laying around along with a few Maxtor 300G SATA Drives. First off I could tell it was faster than the 4400+ and even the 4600+! I even did some quick overclocking with ASUS's Ai booster App. 8 x 300 got me to 2.4Mhz with no problems, but any higher with their App won't fly. A question I had is this, the OCZ mem has a latency of 5-5-5-12 is that any good? I've understood 3 is best but 4 will do when cash is a problem, is 5 do-able? Also can raid 0+1 be set up without creaming my existing 300G drive? I have 3 more to add for the setup.
Thanks for the help
does anyone know when will bios be relesed??
or at least 0609 but not beta version
Hello,
i have bought the Asus P5B Deluxe, 2gb Teamgroup PC2 6400, Conroe E6600 and a Sapphire X1900XT. I flashed with bios 507, but im getting lots of problems doing overclock with this rig above 300fsb
I have tried this:
CPU Multi 6x
FSB 350 (1:1 mems at 700mhz) <- Underclock
CPU Mhz = 2100mhz <- Underclock
Vmem = Auto, 2.15, 2.25, 2.30
Configs of Mem = BySpd, Manual (4-4-4-12)
With this setting, and all the options in vmem and mem settings, i get lots of errors in Memtest86+
Then..i tried this:
CPU Multi 9x
FSB 300 (2:3 mems at 900mhz)
CPU Mhz = 2700mhz
Vmem = 2.15
Configs da Mem = Manual (4-4-4-12)
Memtest86+ gives no errors, Orthos in memory stress and cpu stress runs everthing fine.
Above 300/310 fsb is starts to give me erros in Orthos memory stress.
3Dmarks crashes, games crashes, so..its not stable at all above +/- 310fsb
I have tryed vmem to 2.3 and vcore to 1.45 and every single setting in bios (enabling and disabling)....and no go.
I have tryed only with 1 Dimm, at 334fsb (3000mhz) it looks like Memtest+ until 4 test, gives no errors, but at windows in Orthos still give erros in memory stress. At 320fsb Orthos runs fine.
I have tried the 1:1 divisor, at fsb at 400 x 6 = 2400mhz but Orthos keeps doing errors and the system its not stable at all.
Memory ? Should i change the memory for a GSKILL HZ 6400 ?
I already lost 3 days because of this damn thing. I cant lose more. I have many work to do :)
Can anyone help me ?
I've noticed the same thing with both 0609 and 0607. At first I though my MX5021 speakers were dying, but lowering the Windows volume fixes things.Quote:
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
i noticed that as well 0607 bios occasionally on internet radio it would crackle....not all the timeQuote:
Originally Posted by dr_sharp
but if i put a movie on off the HDD and crank it nothing happens
I'm not using onboard sound and no distortion.
Can't complain about this 609, it's got me to 420x8 atm.
About the OCZ gold 6400, from what I've read, it's not the greatest on this p5b.. It seems I've gotten lucky with the set I have, the platz that is.
Since I updated to 0507 bios I can't even get the ASUS App to get me to 8x300! Before I updated it would work with both Mem's, the Corsair 4-4-4-12 5300 and the OCZ Gold 6400 5-5-5-12. The OCZ is what I have left as I returned the Corsair ($220 apposed to $150). Anybody have a quick way to turn an existing 300G SATA (my boot drive) into a Raid 0+1 set? I have 3 more 300G SATA drives.
The Asus Ai booster seems kind of lacking. Any othe programs for overclocking this board/chip?
Uninstalled those sissee Ai booter, its a crap !
Key for success regarding sofware part of an OC, millilons of restarts, patience and focus on the BIOS ONLY ! Nothing else.
Thanks Bing! Went into bios and disabled C1E and Speedstepping then set 8x300. Now I'm at 2400 Mhz, 1:1 FSB:Dram,Mem at 300hz 5-6-6-18. Temps are 55c/38c. What test can I do to make sure this is stable? I have 2 days on this system.
Got the board, works without itches.
tried different things and still works well.
currently just doing 8x405 waiting for my waterblock to get it down to business.
tested it up to 8x450 without problems.
using xfi soundcard without any issues.
all and all its a good board.
rig
6600
corsair 2x1gb 5 5 5 5 15 xms2
asus p5b deluxe.
scythe ninja.
Personally, I run a quick Super PI, then 3dmard2k1(games only), and then 3dmark2k5(games/cpu tests).. Then do some gaming, CS, FEAR,etc. on each new settings. Some like to do Prime, some like Ortho. Another one is "stresscpu". I used it on my AMD opty rig.