Nvidia confirms the GTX 580

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11-01-2010, 08:12 AM
Gilgamesh

http://vr-zone.com/articles/report-n...ked/10202.html

Following up on previously leaked specifications, Chinese website eNet has filled in some missing information - notably TDP and TMU count. The TDP of GeForce GTX 580 is at 244W, slightly lower than the GeForce GTX 480. The texture fillrate had been viewed by many as one of the bottlenecks for GF100, and eNet reports that GF110 effectively doubles the TMU count to 128 TMUs. Apart from this substantial improvement in TMU, the GF110 is a "full revision" and fixed version of GF100.

The GTX 580 is set to release in one week's time, on November 8th/9th (depending on where you live), but the jury is still out on the extent of availability on release. While strong rumours suggest virtually no availability on launch, eNet insists that AIC partners will have GTX 580s on sale on November 9th. However, the quantity of cards for sale on November 9th is not mentioned.
11-01-2010, 08:12 AM
Sn0wm@n

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Original source (now taken down): http://www.enet.com.cn/videocard/img...69/5807698.jpg

did they showcase the full gpu in that review or just numbers in a graph ???

i smell a paper launch on nov 9
11-01-2010, 08:15 AM
Dimitriman

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Originally Posted by Gilgamesh

http://vr-zone.com/articles/report-n...ked/10202.html

Following up on previously leaked specifications, Chinese website eNet has filled in some missing information - notably TDP and TMU count. The TDP of GeForce GTX 580 is at 244W, slightly lower than the GeForce GTX 480. The texture fillrate had been viewed by many as one of the bottlenecks for GF100, and eNet reports that GF110 effectively doubles the TMU count to 128 TMUs. Apart from this substantial improvement in TMU, the GF110 is a "full revision" and fixed version of GF100.

The GTX 580 is set to release in one week's time, on November 8th/9th (depending on where you live), but the jury is still out on the extent of availability on release. While strong rumours suggest virtually no availability on launch, eNet insists that AIC partners will have GTX 580s on sale on November 9th. However, the quantity of cards for sale on November 9th is not mentioned.

I don't trust chinese sources on these forums...
11-01-2010, 08:19 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by Dimitriman

What kind of % improvement over 5870 does 6850 get in crossfire? Considering it will cost around 350$ it should be where 580 will be priced.

alot

its tough to tell from some things due to how oddly scaling happens. on TPU the 6850xfire is only 40% faster, but near identical with a 5970. so if you know what the 5970 does, you kinda know what the 6850xfire does.
11-01-2010, 08:24 AM
Carfax

Anyone want to buy my 480s? I'll sell them to you real cheap in a package deal :D
11-01-2010, 08:28 AM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Carfax

Anyone want to buy my 480s? I'll sell them to you real cheap in a package deal :D

Heh, looks like my 470's will be up for sale soon, too ;).
11-01-2010, 08:34 AM
Vardant

We might get to see some stuff sooner at PDX LAN (PDXLAN 16.5 Nov 5th - Nov 7th 2010), exactly like last time.

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We promised you more at this PDXLAN, and now I can reveal almost everything. NVIDIA will be talking about something new that is NDA. We can not confirm what that is.

One interesting thing to make note of in this "debacle" of ours is this: If you look at Fudzilla here, they say "Nvidia has planed to push this card against AMD Cayman based cards" and we know that those are being released anytime, furthermore, we know that the 580 is coming soon via a web-snafu on the Nvidia Website - so putting all this together, one could reason quite simply what NVIDIA might be talking about at PDXLAN 16.5

http://www.pdxlan.net/portland/
11-01-2010, 08:35 AM
Carfax

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Heh, looks like my 470's will be up for sale soon, too ;).

Hehe yeah! But I have to admit, I'm pissed off that Nvidia couldn't deliver the REAL Fermi at launch. :mad:

If Nvidia would have released the 480 with these specs, then Fermi would have practically dominated Cypress and about pulled even with Hemlock.

So never again will I be an early adopter. Instead I will wait for the inevitable respin..
11-01-2010, 08:35 AM
Sn0wm@n

ohh an announcement of an announcement .. who would have known ....
11-01-2010, 08:35 AM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by Rai

This is why I check Techpowerup for reviews, they have a HUGE games list that they use for reviews, including old, current, and brand new games.

Too bad the gains in Crysis are so minimal. :down:

I was hoping the new single gpus would be able to finally max it out. :(

go to the store and buy a GTX 480 then take the GTX 480 home and put it in your computer, then overclock said GTX 480 and install Crysis, set graphics settings to 1920x1080, 16xQ AA and Very High (Enthusiast or Best Visuals), Enjoy.

My GTX 480 runs Crysis totally maxed (AA included) at 1080P any-ware from 40-90FPS. Cayman and the GTX 580 will only get better.
11-01-2010, 08:40 AM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by Carfax

Hehe yeah! But I have to admit, I'm pissed off that Nvidia couldn't deliver the REAL Fermi at launch. :mad:

If Nvidia would have released the 480 with these specs, then Fermi would have practically dominated Cypress and about pulled even with Hemlock.

So never again will I be an early adopter. Instead I will wait for the inevitable respin..

Heh, yeah, I'm thinking I'll be hopping on refreshes from now on instead of new-gen parts unless they are a 9700pro/etc.-type good card off the bat. I mean, I knew what I was buying, but I just don't feel it's worth it.
11-01-2010, 08:43 AM
GoldenTiger

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

go to the store and buy a GTX 480 then take the GTX 480 home and put it in your computer, then overclock said GTX 480 and install Crysis, set graphics settings to 1920x1080, 16xQ AA and Very High (Enthusiast or Best Visuals), Enjoy.

My GTX 480 runs Crysis totally maxed (AA included) at 1080P any-ware from 40-90FPS. Cayman and the GTX 580 will only get better.

Sarcasm? http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...htning/11.html

I haven't come anywhere near maxing Crysis with my GTX 470 SLI and AA... granted, I run at 2560x1600, but look at those charts... ;).
11-01-2010, 09:06 AM
ajaidev

That slide could be very real and the release date also could be real because if they release the GTX 580 before the 6950/6970 come out they have no real single core nemesis. Reviews would write it off as the most powerful single core GPU and in the end of the article mention that cayman is coming and that's it.

If its not a paper launch i would imagine it being a super limited launch which would make the card seem hot since it is sold out.
11-01-2010, 09:09 AM
Manicdan

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Originally Posted by ajaidev

That slide could be very real and the release date also could be real because if they release the GTX 580 before the 6950/6970 come out they have no real single core nemesis. Reviews would write it off as the most powerful single core GPU and in the end of the article mention that cayman is coming and that's it.

If its not a paper launch i would imagine it being a super limited launch which would make the card seem hot since it is sold out.

i hope this scares AMD into releasing some of their own caymen benchmarks to give us a post-halloween treat.
11-01-2010, 09:17 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Vardant

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/2...1776397102.jpg

meh difference between 480 and 580 is 15 on avg or something they won't even catch 5970 which seems to be ignored by nvidia all the time for some reason :ROTF:
11-01-2010, 09:21 AM
hurrdurr

Still, a 15% performance increase with a 10W TDP decrease at the same node is a good accomplishment. Obviously performance per watt is an area which GTX 480 absolutely sucked so I guess it would be easy to top that. :D
11-01-2010, 10:14 AM
Rai

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

go to the store and buy a GTX 480 then take the GTX 480 home and put it in your computer, then overclock said GTX 480 and install Crysis, set graphics settings to 1920x1080, 16xQ AA and Very High (Enthusiast or Best Visuals), Enjoy.

My GTX 480 runs Crysis totally maxed (AA included) at 1080P any-ware from 40-90FPS. Cayman and the GTX 580 will only get better.

Sorry but I run 2560x1600 and with at least 2xAA, so no, a GTX 480/580 won't cut it. Hopefully Cayman can, but who knows. ;)
11-01-2010, 10:31 AM
Leopold Butters

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Originally Posted by eric66

meh difference between 480 and 580 is 15 on avg or something they won't even catch 5970 which seems to be ignored by nvidia all the time for some reason :ROTF:

Probably because it has 2 GPUs. I guess they could just SLI a couple of 580s and it would be comparable to the 5970 and probably blow it out of the water.
11-01-2010, 10:34 AM
stangracin3

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Originally Posted by Rai

Sorry but I run 2560x1600 and with at least 2xAA, so no, a GTX 480/580 won't cut it. Hopefully Cayman can, but who knows. ;)

2560*1600=4096000 pixels
1920*1080=2073600 pixels

you are rendering over 2 million more pixels than he is. give it a rest.
11-01-2010, 01:03 PM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by GoldenTiger

Sarcasm? http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/M...htning/11.html

I haven't come anywhere near maxing Crysis with my GTX 470 SLI and AA... granted, I run at 2560x1600, but look at those charts... ;).

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Originally Posted by Rai

Sorry but I run 2560x1600 and with at least 2xAA, so no, a GTX 480/580 won't cut it. Hopefully Cayman can, but who knows. ;)

now you see where have nice big 30inch screens is your downfall. Im not joking about them numbers im talking about, Crysis totally maxed on my 480 is very very playable at 1920x1080, but as was previously pointed out 2560x1600 is a totally different ball game.

@Goldentiger, I recently built a system for buddy of mine packing a pair of GTX 470's in SLI and the performance after OCing was off the charts at 1920x1080, but then I tried out a triple monitor surround config running at 5760x1080 performance more than cut in half and due to the smaller Frame buffer ont he 470's i had to turn the AA down to 2x to stay in the 30-50FPS range. any more than 2x would drop frames to around 10FPS so you may be running low on VRAM as well.

this is why i don't think 2560x1600 is a reasonable gaming res. without an SLI of GTX 480's lost of games don't play well. it's great for work use but gaming maybe not yet.

back on topic 128TMU's IF TRUE would be totally sick and launch on the 8-9th would be excellent and a huge surprise but im not putting to much stock in Chinese rumor sites...
11-01-2010, 01:07 PM
Rai

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

now you see where have nice big 30inch screens is your downfall. Im not joking about them numbers im talking about, Crysis totally maxed on my 480 is very very playable at 1920x1080, but as was previously pointed out 2560x1600 is a totally different ball game.

@Goldentiger, I recently built a system for buddy of mine packing a pair of GTX 470's in SLI and the performance after OCing was off the charts at 1920x1080, but then I tried out a triple monitor surround config running at 5760x1080 performance more than cut in half and due to the smaller Frame buffer ont he 470's i had to turn the AA down to 2x to stay in the 30-50FPS range. any more than 2x would drop frames to around 10FPS so you may be running low on VRAM as well.

this is why i don't think 2560x1600 is a reasonable gaming res. without an SLI of GTX 480's lost of games don't play well. it's great for work use but gaming maybe not yet.

back on topic 128TMU's IF TRUE would be totally sick and launch on the 8-9th would be excellent and a huge surprise but im not putting to much stock in Chinese rumor sites...

The monitor is for both work and play, and once you get used to it, it's very hard to go back. It also serves as my HDTV. Admittedly, it can be difficult to drive all games at that res though. Since most games are console ports they run well though, even with 8xAA.
11-01-2010, 01:18 PM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by Rai

The monitor is for both work and play, and once you get used to it, it's very hard to go back. It also serves as my HDTV. Admittedly, it can be difficult to drive all games at that res though. Since most games are console ports they run well though, even with 8xAA.

a decent GPU will drive it on most games I bet but Crysis is still one of those games thats not like the others. I have used the bog monitors before and they are very very nice but I have to say using the 3 23inch monitors at 5760x1080 was something to behold in the way of gaming. just incredible. Im still very jealous of that 30 though:p:
11-01-2010, 01:32 PM
highoctane

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Originally Posted by [XC] hipno650

a decent GPU will drive it on most games I bet but Crysis is still one of those games thats not like the others.

Yup, I've been gaming on the same 30" for at least four years now at 2560x1600 with a 1950xt, 8800gtx as well as the MSI 260 OC thats in it now and it handles things to my satisfaction 2x aa.

Can't always played details maxed but it'll surprise you what a little time adjusting the settings will net in performance without a big hit in quality.

Needless to say it is time for an upgrade again, just waiting for the right time.
11-01-2010, 01:40 PM
[XC] hipno650

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Originally Posted by highoctane

Yup, I've been gaming on the same 30" for at least four years now at 2560x1600 with a 1950xt, 8800gtx as well as the MSI 260 OC thats in it now and it handles things to my satisfaction 2x aa.

Can't always played details maxed but it'll surprise you what a little time adjusting the settings will net in performance without a big hit in quality.

Needless to say it is time for an upgrade again, just waiting for the right time.

well you waited for the right time, end of November will be a great time to buy with the GTX 580 on the market and AMD's full Cayman line up.
11-01-2010, 01:42 PM
Hey Zeus

Mark me down for two please. I'll be returning my 6870's to Newegg

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