DFI UT X58-T3EH8 continued - Part 2

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07-02-2009, 04:03 PM
Razer(x)

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Originally Posted by Peen

Don't buy OCZ for it. Anyone have a fix for OCZ1600 kits yet? I can't even run superpi 32m at any speed it errors out

i know, i have OCZ 1600 mhz too :shakes:
07-02-2009, 04:13 PM
vtss120204

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

It should work, mine did. I got shipped with 2/17 bios

Thanks sounds like it might be ok.
07-02-2009, 04:31 PM
Peen

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

have you changed the auto settings to actual values in the memory subtimings?

I would if I knew what they were supposed to be set at.

I tried running 6-6-6-16 1.66v 1146mhz still got error. But I will try it again...

I just have a bunch of finicky hardware and an extreme dud chip
07-02-2009, 05:04 PM
Razer(x)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

I would if I knew what they were supposed to be set at.

I tried running 6-6-6-16 1.66v 1146mhz still got error. But I will try it again...

I just have a bunch of finicky hardware and an extreme dud chip

Now i'm stable at 2000mhz CAS9 (with OCZ 1600mhz) but after i reboot i lost stability. Gonna change rams :down:
07-02-2009, 05:06 PM
Peen

I got it to work finally!

here are my specs.

19x211 4GHZ HT, RAM 1266 7-6-6-16-1T 1.66v VTT 1.21v superPI 32m 9m 35s

Also ran 1166 or something 6-6-6-16-1T 1.66v but 1266mhz at that speed failed right when I hit start
07-02-2009, 05:08 PM
Peen

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razer(x)

Now i'm stable at 2000mhz CAS9 (with OCZ 1600mhz) but after i reboot i lost stability. Gonna change rams :down:

Wow I can't even get it 1700mhz to barely boot even with 9-9-9

I have the 6GB 8-8-8-24 Gold kit though, you have the 7-7-7-24 Platinum kit?
07-02-2009, 05:17 PM
Praz

Guys, don't outright blame the ram unless you have tried it in some other board.
07-02-2009, 05:23 PM
ChaosMinionX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

Wow I can't even get it 1700mhz to barely boot even with 9-9-9

I have the 6GB 8-8-8-24 Gold kit though, you have the 7-7-7-24 Platinum kit?

Get CPU Tweaker and take a look at the SPD option, and post a screenshot. I am going to say that your RAM is not cooperating because the board is setting extremely tight values on subtimings, as well as you need to do some RTL tweaking.
07-02-2009, 05:26 PM
Peen

Ok, I've used CPU-tweaker so here is my timings etc...

http://i42.tinypic.com/23gz5ub.png
07-02-2009, 05:40 PM
ci2kla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

Ok, I've used CPU-tweaker so here is my timings etc...

http://i42.tinypic.com/23gz5ub.png

tRFC 44.....okay..........
07-02-2009, 05:45 PM
Peen

Is that too tight? I just tried too loosen up all them...trfc to 68 and it still fails the same

i know nothing about ddr3 i7 ram timings, what should my starting point be??
07-02-2009, 06:00 PM
ci2kla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

Is that too tight? I just tried too loosen up all them...trfc to 68 and it still fails the same

i know nothing about ddr3 i7 ram timings, what should my starting point be??

I think changing ram interleave setting to 6/4 way should help?
07-02-2009, 06:03 PM
Sam_oslo

I'm running my OCZ1333MHZ CL7 at 6x with 6-7-6-22 1N, 1.65v and DRAM PWM switch to "reduce 15%", and 16x Uncore. All my sub-timings are on auto, and are almost the same as yours, but i see a big different on tFAW and RTL, 12/44(yours) and 15/60(mine). You can see my timings here:
http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6018/linx3.th.jpg

EDIT:
I remember when i was playing with RAM on my C0, I discovered that my sticks runs more stable with loose tRAS. My tRAS is 22 and yours is 16, and you could try to loosen yours.
07-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Peen

Can you try to run superpi 32m? Im going to try to replicate your settings really fast
07-02-2009, 06:12 PM
Peen

Just tried your ram settings exactly, and even added to 1.69v.

Fails 32m in 5 seconds
07-02-2009, 06:30 PM
Sam_oslo

I tired both SuperPI and HyperPI without any problem before, but did a fresh run to make sure again, and it is running just fine:

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/30/superpi32m.th.jpg
07-02-2009, 06:31 PM
ChaosMinionX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

Just tried your ram settings exactly, and even added to 1.69v.

Fails 32m in 5 seconds

Set TRRD to 14 in BIOS, it actually sets TRRD of 6 (your current is 4 which is quite tight). Also use other timings in the SPD JEDEC #3 column to set in BIOS, also increase TRFC to 68 from 44.
07-02-2009, 06:45 PM
Peen

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChaosMinionX

Set TRRD to 14 in BIOS, it actually sets TRRD of 6 (your current is 4 which is quite tight). Also use other timings in the SPD JEDEC #3 column to set in BIOS, also increase TRFC to 68 from 44.

BSOD loading windows with those settings

Tried 1680mhz 8-8-8-24 1.67v bsod loading windows. setting 8-8-8-24 and leaving rest to auto loads windows

oh ya have vtt set to 1.34 also
07-02-2009, 06:52 PM
ChaosMinionX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

BSOD loading windows with those settings

Tried 1680mhz 8-8-8-24 1.67v bsod loading windows. setting 8-8-8-24 and leaving rest to auto loads windows

oh ya have vtt set to 1.34 also

try 1 stick at a time, sounds like ram is messed up
07-02-2009, 06:54 PM
Peen

actually auto is crashing too. i thought it loaded before

just tried them all individually, and they all crash loading windows. tried the yellow ram slow instead of the green...wouldnt even post

last one i tried got into windows and primed for about 5 seconds then errored out

and i tried it 8-8-8-24 auto settings 1680mhz, and the settings you said. both failed about the same
07-02-2009, 07:19 PM
Peen

ok im extremely pissed now. just bought another 6gig, not even 1 stick will post in the other yellow slots at bios defaults.... what the hell!!
07-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Praz

Peen,

You really need to find someone with a different board to try your ram in. I have some 1866 here that won't even boot into Windows at 1710 or higher. Have them running in a P6T right now at 1866 with no problems at all. The yellow slot can't be used by themselves. Is that what you are attempting?
07-02-2009, 09:28 PM
Peen

Praz my ram worked fine in my MSI X58M so I know its the board thats having issues. Sounds like im not alone though...ok so the yellows don't work on their own...thats good to know
07-02-2009, 11:00 PM
ci2kla

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peen

Praz my ram worked fine in my MSI X58M so I know its the board thats having issues. Sounds like im not alone though...ok so the yellows don't work on their own...thats good to know

Sorry to ask but what you mean by 'not work on their own' on yellow slots?
07-02-2009, 11:08 PM
rioja

Currently I'm fighting with Dominator 1600C8D ver 2.1 for next level :)
Running CPU 4300MHz with ram 1640 8-8-8-24 or even 9-9-9-24 (if all timings in auto) with setting VTT 1.32v Vdimm 1.635 results in BSOD after 10 mins Prime, but Lynx 20 steps passed succesfully.
If I set VTT 1.34v Vdimm 1.65v I get error in one thread of the Prime Blend after 1.5 hour.
What should I do next, rise voltage more or try to do some bios tweaks?
I do know what timings i have to use in 1640 becoz memory rated only at 1600 and very tight in overclock.
Bios 06/19 seems to work pretty good.

Btw, this RAM is stable at rated 1600 8-8-8-24 VTT 1.32v Vdimm 1.61v with CPU 4200

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