"ASUS P5Q Deluxe discussion".

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leeghoofd

This 1.5 setting overvolts mate (around 1.75ish now): so try eg 1.6 and try go down then 1.52 is the lowest you can go as 1.5 and AUTO overvolt

He got also 105 TJcasemax set... but might be a good idea to verify the mount, reapply the thermal paste , check IHS of cpu and verity the cooler flatness...

Thanks, I wasn't aware of the CPU PLL quirk.
Did some quick 30 min testing and have it relatively stable with the following tweaks:
FSB: 488
CPU Voltage: 1.35000
CPU PLL 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.34

The rest is the same as before. I'm not too worried about temps at this point, since if it gets unstable when it's hot, watercooled+summer I expect it to hit the same temps as I'm a silence nut.

Heading out for the day so I will let this thing Prime and hopefully will have a nice screenie when I get back! I'm enjoying this board more than my M2F :yepp:

If I can hit 8x500 24 hour stable, then I'll move on to testing my Q9550 (also a C1 unfortunately).

Is TJcasemax not supposed to be 105 for these chips??

resolved: PSU issue.

Anyone ever thought of using ASUS ExpressGate SSD as mean of accelerating Windows startup? I don't see this as impossible thing if we could only get direct access to it...
Anyone ever tried something like that?

3.856mhz stable

I am ok 482 mhz cpu ( 3856) and ram (1157)
but T° = cpu( core)65° motherboard 31°

thank truehightroller

Ai overlock manual
Cpu ratio 8
Fsb strap auto
Fsb freq 482 3856mhz
Pci e fre 103
Dram fre 12:10 1157mhz
Dram clk a1a2a3a4 auto
Dram timing manual

1 info 5 5 5 15 3 3 6 5 3
2 info 8 3 5 4 6 4 6
3 info 1 3 5 1 5 5

5 5 5 15 manual
ras to ras auto
row refresh auto
write recovery auto
read to precharge auto

dram static disabled
dram training disabled
mem oc enabled
aicclock twister moderate
ai transaction 10
pull in ( 10) disabled

cpu voltage 1.425 (1.34”load”)
cpu gtl (o/2) .63
cpu gtl 1/3 .675
cpu pll v 1.56
fsb terminai 1.30
dram 2.24
nb volt 1.38
sbridge 1.2
pcie sata auto

load line calibre enable
cpu spread disabled
pcie spread disabled
cpu clock skew 400ps
nb clock skew 400ps
pcu margin optimi

cpu ratio 8
c1e sup disabled
all disabled but cpu tm function enabled
:yepp::yepp:
now I try to down my T°

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogman

Hi, can you guys help me? My CPU is stable with OCCT and IntelBurntest but when I install Windows Vista my computer automatically restarts. I can install windows xp x64, but it restarts when I'm in windows xp64. Please help!

My setup:
E8400 C0 @2.85ghz
thermalright 120x
asus p5q deluxe
gskill 2gb GBHZ micron d9's
MSI geforce 8400GS 256mb
HEC zephyr 750 PSU
500gb seagate
320gb seagate
80gb seagate

my settings:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1080
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information:
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: Auto
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO

DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO

CPU Voltage: 1.29
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .63
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .63
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.50 to 1.52 "if I set it to 1.54 worsens"
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.20 to 1.22 "if I set it to 1.24 worsens"
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.18 to 1.22 "if I set it to 1.24 worsens"
NB GTL Reference: .630
SBridge Voltage: 1.2
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.5

Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU ME: Compatible

I have put 1.42 v for see if vista need and down after to find just the volt to start

Quote:

Originally Posted by bogman

Hi, can you guys help me? My CPU is stable with OCCT and IntelBurntest but when I install Windows Vista my computer automatically restarts. I can install windows xp x64, but it restarts when I'm in windows xp64. Please help!

AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 450
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 900

CPU Voltage: 1.3
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.0
NB Voltage: 1.22
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Try to see if this is stable... 2.0 "real" volts with that ram at 1080Mhz is doubtfull to me ... try to put 2.0 in bios and see if it improves stability...

Also does the NB heatsink get hot when you run eg IBT ? if not, it probably has got bad contact with the chipset itself due to bad TIM, not enough pressure,... on which OS can you run IBT or OCCT : 32bit XP ? I can tell you it's not accurate at all on 32bit... IBT can pass with flying colours, yet prime craps out on me even after an hour...

Quote:

Originally Posted by genish

now I try to down my T°

I really don't get you at all, you always post regarding lowering your temps, but still keep clocking and even clocking higher... make up your mind lol or move to Iceland and leave the window open 24/7...
If you don't feel comfortable with the temps, clock down then...not up :rolleyes:

I wish I could OC in Iceland, that would make it interesting :D

Had my setup up to 3904,8x488 Stable, 8x490 I can prime for awhile but talk about hitting a wall/sheesh! Dropped er back down to 8x486 for daily running as the volts are Much better and I really couldn't see much of a difference there. Compatible Mode for the CME setting did open up the pipe a bit tho to allow some more headroom. Just an observation.

Larry

Quote:

Also does the NB heatsink get hot when you run eg IBT ? if not, it probably has got bad contact with the chipset itself due to bad TIM, not enough pressure,... on which OS can you run IBT or OCCT : 32bit XP ? I can tell you it's not accurate at all on 32bit... IBT can pass with flying colours, yet prime craps out on me even after an hour...

I did all the testings in Win XP x64. I will try to re seat the heatsink and reply thermal paste.

Thank you Leeghoofd for your reply. :D

is there anything bad about running a .61x cpu gtl ref? :shrug:

i noticed i can lower vcore quite a bit if i use the lower ref.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

i noticed i can lower vcore quite a bit if i use the lower ref.

Then, for you, there is nothing but good.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThugsRook

is there anything bad about running a .61x cpu gtl ref? :shrug:

i noticed i can lower vcore quite a bit if i use the lower ref.

What FSB voltage you use?

3 Attachment(s)

DRAM Static Read Control: Dis...
DRAM Read Training: Dis...
;)

Same chip, higher clock!!
This thing likes FSB Termination Voltage when I clock up. I had it at 1.34 and it was unstable.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/bzhou/...50_c1_3904.png

Code:

X3350 SLAXW C1 L803A756 VID 1.1625 Asus P5Q Deluxe A2 BIOS: 1402 KET 499x8 3904 AI Overclock tuner : Manual CPU Ratio Setting : Auto FSB Frequency : 488 PCI-E Frequency : 100 FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 DRAM Frequency : DDR2-977MHz DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 : AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 : AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 : AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 : AUTO DRAM Timing Control : Auto 1st Information : (5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3) 2nd Information : (8-3-5-4-6-4-6) 3rd Information : (14-5-1-6-6) DRAM Static Read Control : Auto DRAM Read Training : Auto MEM. OC Charger : Auto AI Clock Twister : Auto AI Transaction Booster : Manual Common Performance Level : 10 Pull-In : All Disabled CPU Voltage : 1.37500 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2) : 0.630 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3) : 0.675 CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36 DRAM Voltage : 2.00 NB Voltage : 1.40 NB GTL Reference : Auto SBridge Voltage : 1.20 PCIE SATA Voltage : Auto Load Line Calibration : Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled CPU Clock Skew : Delay 400ps NB Clock Skew : Delay 400ps CPU Margin Enhancement : Optimized

Quote:

Originally Posted by carepolice

What FSB voltage you use?

@ 500fsb = 1.14v

I just finished reading the first 185 pages, great thread. I saw a lot of questions about strap selection, and thought I would share the following link, which explains the relationship between the strap and tRD (Common Performance Level/PL)

http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=4

here's my template:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 266
FSB Frequency: 400
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: 1003
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: Enabled
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: Moderate
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Common Performance Level [8] tRD
Pull-In of CHA PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHA PH4: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH1: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH2: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH3: DISABLED
Pull-In of CHB PH4: DISABLED

CPU Voltage: 1.225
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): AUTO
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 1.8
NB Voltage: 1.16
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: AUTO
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advance CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.0
CPU VID: Default
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
Vanderpool Technology: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled

I have just two questions. Is there any real benefit to enabling the Static Read Control, and what's the final verdict on the operation/options for CPU Margin Enhancement?

Testing another CPU. Quick screenie.

http://individual.utoronto.ca/bzhou/...1_4037_air.png

Q9550 SLAWQ C1 L821B241 VID 1.2250

Code:

AI Overclock tuner : Manual CPU Ratio Setting : Auto FSB Frequency : 475 PCI-E Frequency : 100 FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333 DRAM Frequency : DDR2-951 DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 : AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 : AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 : AUTO DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 : AUTO DRAM Timing Control : Auto 1st Information : (5-5-5-15-3-52-6-3) 2nd Information : (8-3-5-4-6-4-6) 3rd Information : (14-5-1-6-6) DRAM Static Read Control : Auto DRAM Read Training : Auto MEM. OC Charger : Auto AI Clock Twister : Auto AI Transaction Booster : Manual Common Performance Level : 10 CPU Voltage : 1.37500 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2) : 0.610 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3) : 0.650 CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 FSB Termination Voltage : 1.30 DRAM Voltage : 2.00 NB Voltage : 1.40 NB GTL Reference : Auto SBridge Voltage : 1.20 PCIE SATA Voltage : Auto Load Line Calibration : Enabled CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled CPU Clock Skew : Delay 400ps NB Clock Skew : Delay 400ps CPU Margin Enhancement : Optimized

Here are the settings I had for 450x8.5

Code:

CPU Voltage : 1.27500 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2) : 0.630 CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3) : 0.675 CPU PLL Voltage : 1.52 FSB Termination Voltage : 1.20 DRAM Voltage : 2.00 NB Voltage : 1.20 NB GTL Reference : Auto SBridge Voltage : 1.10 PCIE SATA Voltage : Auto

Quote:

Originally Posted by TouGe

After I rebooted it reverted back to stock settings like it was recovering from a bad overclock even though I had no indication from Prime that anything was wrong.
For some reason certain voltages @ or above 1.30V on the NB make this board flaky. I'm going to run my NB voltages as low as possible running my 4 gigs @ 1066MHz and then work my way back up again to see if I really need voltages above 1.3V on my NB.

Anyway......

Mine have same issues, i cant stabilize my overclock because i cant go above 1,3v on northbridge, anyone knows anything about? bios? what is the cause?

I have really uncertain views on LLC. But I think in general enabling it can do more help than harm.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Counterpoise

I have really uncertain views on LLC. But I think in general enabling it can do more help than harm.

Same here, if i go higher than 1.32 on northbridge, I get no post followed by auto recovery but then system is at all defaults and I have to re-enter all my settings.

Not good at all!

Thats wierd, I have pushed my NB up to 1.6V and never had a problem.

In fact I need 1.5V+ on NB for Quad to bench at 500+fsb

That is odd, must be quality control, mine needs 1.36 for the high 480's on th NB.

Larry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mumid

Same here, if i go higher than 1.32 on northbridge, I get no post followed by auto recovery but then system is at all defaults and I have to re-enter all my settings.

Not good at all!

seems that this is more common that we generaly think.., anyone know some workaround? Maybe chipset heatsink with bad contact? i have taken out mine and change the thermal paste, maybe this give me the problem, i am not sure.

the MB Temp is the chipset temp, or is a more general temperature of motherboard?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diablero

seems that this is more common that we generaly think.., anyone know some workaround? Maybe chipset heatsink with bad contact? i have taken out mine and change the thermal paste, maybe this give me the problem, i am not sure.

the MB Temp is the chipset temp, or is a more general temperature of motherboard?

What FSB volt do you use? I've been told that FSB volt and NB volts shouldn't be more than 0.1 volt apart

I not want to go voltage highter:(
but P 174 and I seen the same 1.42 give 1.34 :confused:
I am running now just 3712mhz
with truehighroller config but not 480 just 464
Temp carte mere 33 à 35 ° temp core 65° maxi

9654 mo/S 53 ns
Ai overlock manual
Cpu ratio 8
Fsb strap 333
Fsb freq 464 3712mhz
Pci e fre 103
Dram fre 12:10 1114mhz
Dram clk a1a2a3a4 auto
Dram timing manual

1 info 5 5 5 15 3 3 6 5 3
2 info 8 3 5 4 6 4 6
3 info 1 3 5 1 5 5

5 5 5 15 manual
ras to ras auto
row refresh auto
write recovery auto
read to precharge auto

dram static disabled
dram training disabled
mem oc enabled
aicclock twister stronger
ai transaction 8
pull in ( 10) disabled

cpu voltage 1.33125 (1.32”load”)
cpu gtl (o/2) .63
cpu gtl 1/3 .63
cpu pll v 1.56
fsb terminai 1.22
dram 2.18
nb volt 1.26
sbridge 1.2
pcie sata 1.6

load line calibre enable
cpu spread disabled
pcie spread disabled
cpu clock skew auto
nb clock skew auto
pcu margin optimi

cpu ratio 8
c1e sup disabled
all disabled

I can put a second noctua on my cpu but I must put out the asus chipset fan

somebody can me give reference à good Dissipateur Mosfet and Chipset fan to down my mb T°

I wait a new case haf 932

sorry but i have a so bad english :shrug:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melhisedek

What FSB volt do you use? I've been told that FSB volt and NB volts shouldn't be more than 0.1 volt apart

Q9550 e0, 1.32v vTT, i am trying to go higher than 1.32v on vNb to. 1.35-1.37v vcore.

temps on motherboard is between 40 and 45 maximum.

I cant have 450mhz stability! i am tryng to play with nbGtls and nbSkew to see what happens. but i am trying 450mhz with 1,2v vtt and nb and higher...

vTT i am sure that 1.3-1.36v give me stabilty, but i cant go on vNB.

It primes, pass on almost all tests on IBT, but it cant do Superpi.., and sudenly freezes...