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12-16-2007, 12:36 PM
Grnfinger

[QUOTE=note: anybody successfully installed vista ultimate RC1 build 6000 ?? what about the clock hack, still workin..?[/QUOTE]

Grab yourself A Dell OEM version they were on NG's 2 days ago. No troubles with activation and updates
12-16-2007, 01:33 PM
ElEctric_EyE

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninogui

so after a failed vista rc1 build 6000 upgrade tryout(the nvidia vga driver gets completely screwed up, just like in aero theme the windows become transparent, and i mean transparent really, u cant access them anymore lolol) and rolling back, im posting again to wrap it up here,

here´s two pics... i used in fact one extender bolt for the nb and ram fans, both in the same. if your config is vertical top down u can just use cable ties. if its BTX mount like mine, even better, gravity will help too lolol

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...i/IMG_1136.jpg
close up

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...i/IMG_1135.jpg

so i managed to have no cables whatsoever running on top.

and yes, to all people complaining on bios 0903 my personal opinion is that regardless what your results are, over 400/450 fsb is in fact unstable. I guess asus wont present us with a new bios, not in christmas and probably no anymore.

I think i´ve reached the top regarding air cooling. More than 8 fans on a mobo is preety nooby....

next dream colling system after christmas: aquacomputer aquaduct 360.....

note: anybody successfully installed vista ultimate RC1 build 6000 ?? what about the clock hack, still workin..?

greets

heh, wrap it up aircooler... Thx for your effort.
12-16-2007, 03:00 PM
DJackson

Well I got a Non-Se Rev1.03g and I'm at 3.7ghz with my Q6600, couldn't get pass 420fsb gave me a BSOD or probably not enough voltage. Ran memtest up to 2500% coverage didn't get any errors.
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/7...me95wj7.th.png
12-16-2007, 03:38 PM
Nuckin_Futs

Quote:

Originally Posted by ninogui

here´s two pics... i used in fact one extender bolt for the nb and ram fans, both in the same. if your config is vertical top down u can just use cable ties. if its BTX mount like mine, even better, gravity will help too lolol

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...i/IMG_1136.jpg
close up

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w...i/IMG_1135.jpg
greets

Cool, same TJ-06 I use for one of mine. Only thing to note is that the NB wll get upto 5C hotter and bout +3 on SB in that possition. I had to remove the NB/SB pipes and use aftermakeet on one and turn on side (like HTPC style) for the other to get good temps with stock coolers on mobo. I also added a clear plastic devider to keep the origional tunneled design since we cant fit the stock SilverStone model anymore. I just trimmed and fitted it from the front fan along the top edge of the VGA (using the majority of the card as the damm) to guide air toward the rear fan. The damm came completely to top of window and folowed length of cast toward back and proved to be functional, especially on model with ThermalRight NB/SB coolers and in upright BTX configuration.

Nice case.
12-16-2007, 04:48 PM
ninogui

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nuckin_Futs

Cool, same TJ-06 I use for one of mine. Only thing to note is that the NB wll get upto 5C hotter and bout +3 on SB in that possition. I had to remove the NB/SB pipes and use aftermakeet on one and turn on side (like HTPC style) for the other to get good temps with stock coolers on mobo. I also added a clear plastic devider to keep the origional tunneled design since we cant fit the stock SilverStone model anymore. I just trimmed and fitted it from the front fan along the top edge of the VGA (using the majority of the card as the damm) to guide air toward the rear fan. The damm came completely to top of window and folowed length of cast toward back and proved to be functional, especially on model with ThermalRight NB/SB coolers and in upright BTX configuration.

Nice case.

Ok... thks nuckin... lolol btx format case can get your temp a bit higher 1-2ºc overall, but spacewise i find it much better. all components are at hand so u wont cut your fingers... i´m sure also the nb/sb/mosfet heat tubes are opposite than they should probably, but for the average low quality of fusion block compared with others is irrelevant. anyway my avg temps are on the low side, cpu idle-35 load 62/63, nb idle-37 load-45, and sb dont even care, got a fan blowing almost straight from outside. will still give a go on watering the NB fusion when i descend from air and plunge into water lolol

btw vista really improves performance with readyboost activated, pen drive formated to ntfs (specially if you can have a voyager gt at least 4GB). for all the rest.... cant find decents arguments for it (dont really care on dx10, still a long way to go)

greets
12-16-2007, 04:58 PM
newls1

Guys, Im having the HARDEST time OCing my Crucial Ballistix PC8500 2x1GB sticks on this board. Im on BIOS 903 and I cant sustain a POST after DDR 1016. I think I have tried EVERYTHING! Can someone shead some light on me please?
12-16-2007, 05:16 PM
CERO

Tried different slots perhaps? white to blue or blue to white?
12-16-2007, 05:19 PM
Nuckin_Futs

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

Guys, Im having the HARDEST time OCing my Crucial Ballistix PC8500 2x1GB sticks on this board. Im on BIOS 903 and I cant sustain a POST after DDR 1016. I think I have tried EVERYTHING! Can someone shead some light on me please?

I'm gussin you must be on a devider for the speed you are asking for. So first off, the mobo NB and FSBT need some overvolting to keep up with the BUS load/stress, and of corse the RAM needs some more vdimm to keep the speed. I used 2.24 for 1152 in my 2nd profile on a 5:6 devider but NB need 1.52v and FSBT to 1.488v. That is with a dual, the quad with the same devider puts even greater load on memory with that devider so more FSBT and NB. My Q6600 on same 480x8 in 4;5 needs 1.55v on NB and 1.505v on FSBT with PLL of 1.712v and of corse CPU at 1.52v

Thr 1:1 with RAM frequency to AUTO and might as well leave strap to auto since ohte quad users are reporting no luck with any other strap then 266 with is defult for this CPU, so AUTO is just fine.

Good luck!
12-16-2007, 05:41 PM
safan80

Quote:

Originally Posted by leoftw

I gave up trying to overclock :( I just stayed at 3.2GHZ 1000MHZ Ram and 1.320V but bought this baby . This overclocks real easy :)

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/d...n/IMG_2559.jpg

nice GT.

if it makes you feel any better I can't get 9x500 on my qx9650. the system won't even post.
12-16-2007, 06:11 PM
S1mon-

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

Guys, Im having the HARDEST time OCing my Crucial Ballistix PC8500 2x1GB sticks on this board. Im on BIOS 903 and I cant sustain a POST after DDR 1016. I think I have tried EVERYTHING! Can someone shead some light on me please?

Don't forget to stick with Starp 333MHz or 400MHz cuz the 200 and the 266 do not work well :)

Hope it will help
12-16-2007, 06:52 PM
sullysnet

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElEctric_EyE

I have that ram and I can tell you that FSB is too high. Unlikely it will work with anything at or over 1200.

You have yours at 1146, that is where mine was at 2.6 but I would love to get to 2.8 on my current cooler. I think that will be ok for now till I purchase a new one (soon) So do you have any ideas on how to get 2.8 and memory at 1146? thanks a million :up:
12-17-2007, 03:57 AM
E.R

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

I got my Maximus Formula (non-SE) from Poland and it's version 1.03G, this is what's printed on the board itself.

What were the differences?

None, yours was intended for aircoolingheatpipe from beginning.
12-17-2007, 06:14 AM
psilos

can i ask for a help???

what is the best bios for now for maximus formula second edition??
i want to put on the mobo a wolfdale
12-17-2007, 06:19 AM
kup

I'd recommend Bios 0903 for the compatibility with the newer CPUs. Some people prefer the earlier bios but 0903 is a major breakthrough in performance and overclocking, IMO.
12-17-2007, 06:21 AM
psilos

thx my friend... :)
12-17-2007, 06:27 AM
kup

NP! :)

Check out the Maximus Formula "Part 2" thread too, for any queries you have!
12-17-2007, 06:28 AM
newls1

Quote:

Originally Posted by S1mon-

Don't forget to stick with Starp 333MHz or 400MHz cuz the 200 and the 266 do not work well :)

Hope it will help

Yes, I found this out the hard way. I must have shut off / restarted / cleared CMOS well over 100 times from trying all combinations of ram settings. Im now using the 400strap with my PC8500 ram operating @ DDR1130 with transaction booster enabled to "1" no way could I get this speed using the 266 strap, none the less with enabling transaction booster:up: My latency with timings at 5/5/5/8 is 49ns
12-17-2007, 06:54 AM
GFORCE100

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

Yes, I found this out the hard way. I must have shut off / restarted / cleared CMOS well over 100 times from trying all combinations of ram settings. Im now using the 400strap with my PC8500 ram operating @ DDR1130 with transaction booster enabled to "1" no way could I get this speed using the 266 strap, none the less with enabling transaction booster:up: My latency with timings at 5/5/5/8 is 49ns

49ns???

In Everest?

Something must be wrong on yours or mine since I have the exact same settings, and it's 53ns on mine in Everest and around 9600MB/s read throughput.

I'll check it again when I get home but you got me thinking, 4ns is a big difference.

So 5-5-5-8 and the rest is on AUTO yes? 2 DIMM's or 4 DIMM's? The latter shouldn't make a difference though except for the required VDIMM.
12-17-2007, 06:54 AM
Drager2

Is it normal that my maximus formula with latest BIOS(0903) can't measure core temp on QX9770? I used VapoLS but in bios I saw only +28\29 and +100=>reboot. +doesn't want to pass post check (sometimes) with high voltages (>~1.58v) due to wrong temperature monitoring.
12-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Renegade5399

0903. This is by far the most stable BIOS to date.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

49ns???

In Everest?

Something must be wrong on yours or mine since I have the exact same settings, and it's 53ns on mine in Everest and around 9600MB/s read throughput.

I'll check it again when I get home but you got me thinking, 4ns is a big difference.

So 5-5-5-8 and the rest is on AUTO yes? 2 DIMM's or 4 DIMM's? The latter shouldn't make a difference though except for the required VDIMM.

You might want to check your settings. I am getting what you see in the screenshot with 4x1GB sticks at DDR2 1215 5-5-5-15.

http://www.cyberimpressions.net/imag...erestBench.jpg
12-17-2007, 07:28 AM
newls1

Quote:

Originally Posted by GFORCE100

49ns???

In Everest?

Something must be wrong on yours or mine since I have the exact same settings, and it's 53ns on mine in Everest and around 9600MB/s read throughput.

I'll check it again when I get home but you got me thinking, 4ns is a big difference.

So 5-5-5-8 and the rest is on AUTO yes? 2 DIMM's or 4 DIMM's? The latter shouldn't make a difference though except for the required VDIMM.

I went from 53ns to 49ns just by enabling transaction booster. Trty it for your self, set it to either "0" or "1" or "2"
12-17-2007, 07:51 AM
Renegade5399

As a note, I am not running Trans booster.

DRAM Static Read - Enabled
Clock Twister - Strong
Trans Booster - Disabled
Relax - 0
12-17-2007, 08:01 AM
newls1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade5399

As a note, I am not running Trans booster.

DRAM Static Read - Enabled
Clock Twister - Strong
Trans Booster - Disabled
Relax - 0

Disable static read, and enable trans booster my friend.....
12-17-2007, 08:05 AM
Leeghoofd

yep I can confirm Renegades findings, for me I prefer Static read control enabled over transaction booster quick comparison at 9 x 333FSB with Q6600 :

First column Static disabled, TB enabled to 1, second column SRC enabled ; TB disabled relax level 0

Read 7964 --- 7954
Write 6098 --- 6095
Copy 6672 --- 6727
Latency 65.2 --- 60.5

I dunno how this works out for high FSB clocks, but we already saw some of this behaviour with P35 chipset on Asus boards... give it a shot NEWLS1 and keep us posted...
12-17-2007, 08:06 AM
Renegade5399

Quote:

Originally Posted by newls1

Disable static read, and enable trans booster my friend.....

Tried that and got worse scores. sdumper and I have been through 100's of settings with this board. Our conclusion was Trans boost is to be off with relax set to 0 or 1. Static read on and Clock twister to strong if your RAM can take it. This yields the highest 3dmark06 scores, everest bench scores, and fastest Pi times.

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