I caved and just ordered the ViewSonic VX2025WM. It was cheap plus newegg had free shipping on it this weekend. I figured I would pick it up a cheaper one now and get a HDCP one once Samsung/Dell figure out what the hell they are doing.
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I caved and just ordered the ViewSonic VX2025WM. It was cheap plus newegg had free shipping on it this weekend. I figured I would pick it up a cheaper one now and get a HDCP one once Samsung/Dell figure out what the hell they are doing.
What if you just left it on "Desktop" mode and adjusted the image yourself? I thought the banding was fixed there, so wouldn't that be a solution?
It is true that it works in desktop mode, BUT users are still reporting banding issues. Some people might have a better eye than others, or it might be the luck of the draw, but too many people are reporting banding problems still with A02 revision. Also I don't think I would want to spend my money on a product where only half of the features work. Doesn't make sense to me.
I wonder though (and I haven't looked this up) if people are seeing this during normal use, or are they complaining about it after seeing it in some synthetic test they are running?
I have been following the forums a bit, it seems to go both ways. Testing and normal use.
I will be picking up the 2407 later on this week and will let you guys know how it is. I will upgrading from a 17" planar lcd... should be interesting :)
Will be receiving my 2407 today. Something Sexy, did you still want to see a review? I know you got your monitor already, but if you would like I can still post something up... Or other forum members if they request.
please do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Got Chow
Argh...
I JUST received another e-mail from Dell. It gives me a coupon for 25% off of a monitor. I purchased my monitor last week with a 20% off coupon. :( I paid $770 total, and now this coupon would have taken my total price down $725.
I'm going to call and see if I can get a couple bucks back. Highly unlikely and my patience will probably long run out before that. If somebody wants the coupon (only if you are absolutely sure you are going to buy it and use it), then PM me.
EDIT: The coupon also works for the 2007 and 1907, through Dell Small Business. The coupon will remove 25% off of the original price, not off of the sale price indicated.
And I just received the monitor... I'm at work right now though, so no revew until later unfortunately...
Yes, definitely post the review. I am still interested in picking up a Dell monitor in the future if they can fix their :banana::banana::banana::banana:.
OK will do.
By the way, the coupon is already spoken for. We've got some quick people on here!
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thats me.. quick draw pchangover.. lol
If you get a coupon please pass it on. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pchangover
edit #1: @Got Chow...looking forward to your thoughts on Dell's latest and greatest.
edit #2: Too late. I allready ordered. $703 is not a bad price until you have to pay taxes on it. :)
Just a quick preview, not a real review yet... I got home late and had to be at work early, so I did not have much time to really play around with the settings on the monitor that much.
Initial thoughts on the 2407WFP... It's pretty big! Sitting on my desk, it takes up quite a bit of space, which is quite nice. There are pictures below comparing the the 2407WFP with the 20" 2001FP that got replaced. Just judging by the keyboard as a comparison in size, it's quite a bit wider, although height is the same.
The monitor is very bright. I left everything on default when taking the pictures. You can tell from the surroundings, that the camera incrased the shutter speed a bit on the 2407WFP shot, since the metering used was justified to get a good exposure of the LCD screen. Since the surroundings are a little darker, it makes sense that the 2407WFP is a little brighter. Contrast is similar to the 2001FP monitor, but I think the text is slightly fuzzier on the 2407WFP instead of the 2001FP.
The stand is quite nice. I would have preferred all black, but silver is fine. You can turn the screen to portrait mode. However, the thing is so damn big that I cannot turn it. It is sitting on an Ikea Jerker desk which has a top shelf... I cannot rotate it since there is not enough clearance. LOL. My 2001FP had this feature as well, and truthfully, I never used it. The monitor can go up and down fairly easily, and stops wherever you put it. It is controlled by a spring in the stand. Looks like it has just the right amount of tension to keep the monitor anywhere you want it. It can get really low as well, about 2" off the tabletop, which is nice for those who have a desk with a "shelf" specifically to put a monitor on. This stand takes up less space than the 2001FP stand, which is appreciated. And there is a hole in the middle of the stand for wires to pass through. It can swivel left and right as well, and does so smoothly. However, I never use this function either.
No banding that I can notice at all. I did not go through synthetic tests, as that really doesn't mean much to me. I switched to Multimedia and Gaming mode, and all I can really tell is that the color temperatures change a little. I left it on desktop mode which was recommended for minimal banding. However, I did not notice banding on the other modes when I switched to them for a short amount of time. Brightness and colors seem uniform to my eye, all over the screen. No backlight leakage or specific bright areas.
The only game I have installed right now is WoW (recently reformatted). And it looks awesome at 1920x1200. I'm only running a 7800GT, and it can handle WoW at that resolution with no problems. I spent a few minutes roaming around and it looks incredible in game. Spinning around I find no ghosting, and I really don't expect there to be an issue with that in other games either.
There is a media reader, which is also good to have since I can pull the one out of my 3.5" bay now and put my waterpump there instead. There are also enough inputs for everything you need, except HDMI. I only had my PC going to it through DVI. I will try and plug in some other components later, probably an HD DirecTV box, to see how it looks.
One thing you'll quickly realize is that you do not need such a wide ass monitor for regular use. I setup the gridlines through nview, and easily had my AIM window on the right, and 2 web browsers side by side with no issue. Maximizing a single browser, and looking at a site built for 800x600 is quite strange. A lot of white space!
All in all, I am extremely happy with the purchase. I see none of the banding problems reported, but I have to see how things scale onto the monitor as well. I heard 1600x1200 doesn't scale right in some games, it only stretches and cannot put black bars on the sides even if configured to do so... I also heard problems with the component inputs, but that is yet to be seen. But hell, for $770, it is one kick ass monitor. I paid $650 for my 2001FP back in the day.
I was going to sell the 2001FP, but now I'm wondering if I should have it as a secondary monitor off to the side! :D Don't know why I would use all that real estate, but why not! :)
And 2 quick comparison pics. I'll try and get more detailed pictures later. The surroundings are dark, as the shots were metered for the actual LCD screen itself. I had a tripod setup so that I could get exact comparisons, but I bumped it out of place while putting in the 2407WFP, so it's not quite exact as I had to reposition the tripod.
http://www.got-chow.com/pics/geek/2001fp.jpg
http://www.got-chow.com/pics/geek/2407wfp.jpg
Awesome, I am glad you had some good luck with your monitor. If all is well I will probably pick one of these up in the near future for my main monitor and have my Viewsonic for my secondary. Mwuaha.
I like that Dell above. But I'm still shafted on what to get.
I was gonna get the Samsung SM204B 5ms 20.1" monitor... But whats all this DHCP then? is it THAT much of a requierment?
Supposedly future high def stuff will require "HDCP" ready devices. This means everything from the optical drive all the way to the monitor. This monitor is HDCP ready but that had no weight in my decision to buy it. I would care less right now if it was not HDCP ready... I think it is years away.
Yea HDCP for computers anyways won't come into play until Vista is out and there are actually HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players for PCs, and who knows when we will see that, for a DECENT price. Thats what ultimately veered me away from worrying about HDCP.
Nice job with the mini review. I am also currently using a 2001FP so I appreciate your comparison. I'm looking forward to the monitor. It will be nice to have a bit more real-estate on the screen.
Congrats! :up:
@ Got Chow + Something Sexy
Thanks for that :) - Confirming what I was thinking about it not being major now. My last monitor lasted me 4 years, was one of the first wave of LCD monitors.
I'm not a big fan of widescreen, but Chow's looks so f'kin cool on that desk!
Yea it is a beauty. I think widescreen is gonna be the way to go now. I should be getting my viewsonic either today or tomorrow and will post pictures and a review.
I wasn't a big fan of widescreens either... However, there is quite a good amount of support for 1920x1200, so I went ahead and got this. The weirder 1680x1050 resolutions I don't see so much of though... I don't watch movies on this PC since I have a media projector, but I'll try it out to see what DVDs look like.
Good to see. I am patiently awaiting your full review. I will be ordering my 2407 tomorrow!
Coupon is available again. First to PM gets it. It expires tomorrow!
I've PM'd. Would it work for me? I'm from UK. I want a monitor tho, so it'd help. lol.