geez, with this rate well be lucky if we get these by the summertime
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geez, with this rate well be lucky if we get these by the summertime
Loll !
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...1/EpicFail.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Feser
The best comment :rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandr0s
im pretty sure it would be easyer to purchase a unicorn than one of these.. altho they are from the same area of imagninationland.
:rolleyes:
Believe me that was not fun. :wth:Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Sorry man, you grabbed them too soon.... I came to Vegas for that for that interview! You will get sample shortly. Looking forward for your test results.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Interview with Feser reps about Admirals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TskRZ...layer_embedded
and a little bit of the radiator design
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqaEX...layer_embedded
hmmm... modular rad... that's different. I'm not sure if I understand the point. Does it make it more affordable? Is much surface area wasted?
I haven't finish the video but the biggest thing I noted so far is it's basically a newer, smaller MO-RA. . .=higher restriction. :shakes:
Yeah, it is the Mora style (round tubes) fit into the typical radiator form factor. The tubes were too expensive to make as one piece for the length of a triple and quad, so it was broken down into single sections/modules.
You can modify your rad as you want. You can make it bigger with expansion module(s) instead of replacing entire radiator, so I expect this be a less expensive upgrade.Quote:
Originally Posted by meanmoe
You also will see in Part 2, that you can do really un-usual design decisions with this modular system.
Not just round tubes, they say in the video that the water flow is redirected sequentially back and forth through the tubes. Mario says that 1 section is = to 3.5M in travel length.Quote:
Originally Posted by skinnee
Ref 9:10 of video
What I don't understand though is, why not just sell a base unit and then a "upgrade" unit? 2 SKU #'s for all vendors to carry instead of 1 for each size rad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazmode
LOL. You are consistent.:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
those tubes are gonig to have to perform very well to make up for the lost inches everytime you add another 120 section
The flow pattern will be serial on first release, with parallel being explored.
What?, I thought it was well know that I'm a high flow whore? :p: I hate restriction!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazmode
Looks like a good way to make an overly complex and restrictive rad that still has to abide by the laws of physics.
Rule #1 of German engineering dictates that you take the simplest concept and complicate it as much as possible.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by pluck
I should note here before being called a racist that I'm part German and Russian so I do know a bit of what I speak about.;)
So, seen first, 16min long vid.
1) Ouch. Fully sequential waterpaths .. it's gonna be Resistive (waterflow path). Expecting dual DDC tops and Iwaki pumps on the rise :)
2) I don't like that much space around watertubes (just like i disliked built in shroud in BI SR1 rad (and from one side only to keep thickness in check, limiting installment positions)) - imho it's better to leave choice up to user and have rad shroud to be just as wide/thick as heatercore within, so that rad can be mounted everywhere, and IF user Wants fan shrouds And has space for those, he can install those. Weird seeing that modular design to not have that thing thought out, as it should be easy to add extra rad shroud parts for different sized fans and of different shroud part distance.
3) Oh, and they too much accent on modularity being THAT important. One doesn't throw out old common design rads when their cooling capacity is inadequate after cooled hardware upgrades. One adds another rad for extra cooling capacity. Now how that is worse then adding extra section to TFC rad?
4) Also these rads because of extra length caused by middle interconnecting inserts look like will be longer then common design ones - they might not fit everywhere where rads of common design with same section count fits, OR with similar size they will have less rad area. Because of bigger dimensions (both thickness & length wise) it might be actually harder to fit more rads into many cases internally compared to common rads, loosing out in overall cooling capacity as result.
Pitty nothing been said about how resistive these rads will be to airflow, how effective they will be to similar sized common rads
Skinnee is the man to lay numbers down.... Visually forest of tubes should be less restrictive for air flow, then mesh of fins.Quote:
Originally Posted by churchy
Restriction can be estimated, I think. How much flow is lost with each extra inch of tube? Something like 0.1L per min?
It's each 180° bend that adds the restriction. These look as bad as the MO-RA's in that sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazmode
To compare with, here are the pics of the early design of Admirals:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/3...80percent2.jpg
http://img839.imageshack.us/img839/3...connection.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/6953/sidepanelr.jpg
IMHO that was much better that this modular design crap.
As promised, a couple photos. Bad shots I know, hotel lighting and didn't have my regular camera.
http://skinneelabs.com/assets/images...Admiral_01.jpg
http://skinneelabs.com/assets/images...Admiral_02.jpg
As it's been said, nothing wrong with using reasonable ammount of 90deg fittings in loop in some cases for simpler tubing routing, it's bad if All fittings are such. In last pics posted by SpuTnicK i counted 14+12(14-2 for inlets)=26*90deg fittings. It WILL impact flowrates in noticeable way.
2skinnee: can you do close-up shot on inside walls of one water tube? - are those with extra internal "fins" for better heat exchange?