Confirmed: Feser 1 Blue Premix + GTZ = do NOT want

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Originally Posted by Linus@ncix

Primoflex LRT has biocide lining the tubing walls. There is no need to add PT_NUKE or silver.

My loop has been running over a year with distilled + Primoflex LRT and the water in my res is still clear (and so is my res for that matter).

It works as advertised. Every extra thing you add to your loop is just asking for trouble.

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how do you know this for sure?

i have the same tubing and yes you are right about everything being clear but i just thought it was the use of distilled water, i also have silver in my loop...

thanks for the info!

So the 4 screws in the middle that go through the copper block are all you need to unscrew then the block comes apart. I did that but it's tight as can be.. do I just need to pull harder?

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Originally Posted by evoted

how do you know this for sure?

i have the same tubing and yes you are right about everything being clear but i just thought it was the use of distilled water, i also have silver in my loop...

thanks for the info!

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Primochill says so in the product description.

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PrimoFlex Pro LRT is designed and manufactured to exacting standards for today’s high performance PC water cooling systems. Low Radius Technology allows for tighter bends without the kinking that can cause cooling failures or reduce performance. Our special Anti-Microbial formula helps keep your cooling loop pristine—which keeps flow rates up, reduces maintenance, and just flat out looks better.

PrimoFlex Pro LRT wouldn’t be the choice of pro modders and high performance water coolers if it also didn’t have killer looks and excellent sub zero performance. Available in an ever increasing range of UV colors as well as Clear, PrimoFlex Pro LRT stays flexible even when subjected to the lowest temperatures.

Our proprietary blend of extremely low durometer PVC (polyvinyl chloride) and a more rigid polymer resin gives PrimoFlex Pro LRT its unbeatable bend ratio and durability. Even under exacting laboratory set-ups with abrupt small radius bends and multiple direction changes, PrimoFlex PRO LRT tubing resists twisting and collapse—a common problem when using other lesser brands.

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Sorry to keep this beast kicking but check out this awesome dye gone wrong mess:

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Here's a Swiftech GTX CPU water block that has a non-copper/soft metal in the top that has been reacting with chemicals in the fluid from mixing dyes.
The gunk:
http://imgur.com/ZFFCx.jpg
The dye alone (covering the pins) would have annoyed me without the gunk:
http://imgur.com/PRtiu.jpg
With some of the gunk scratched away: north myrtle beach hotels|miami hotel
http://imgur.com/AHVPo.jpg
With the gunk gone you can see how it was using the metal in the water block as some sort of catalyst eating it as it went:
http://imgur.com/xEifB.jpg
Coolant used: PrimoChill Ice Clear
Dye used: PrimoChill DyeBomb UV Blue (Approx. 1ml due to container breaking)
Re-Fresh Dye used: Feser View UV Blue (Approx. 10ml)

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Wicked eh? I suggested he come share but I guess he didn't get the link?

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Originally Posted by SamTHorn

Sorry to keep this beast kicking but check out this awesome dye gone wrong mess:

Wicked eh? I suggested he come share but I guess he didn't get the link?

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I thought this is actually caused by a reaction between aluminium used by the GTX and copper.

Phil

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Originally Posted by Philwong

I thought this is actually caused by a reaction between aluminium used by the GTX and copper.

Phil

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It is.

Wow.. Those pictures are going to make me have nightmares.....:shocked:

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Originally Posted by Section8

Wow.. Those pictures are going to make me have nightmares.....:shocked:

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ive had worse..

A lot worse...

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Originally Posted by NaeKuh

ive had worse..

A lot worse...

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Man I feel for you guys. I am glad I have never had to deal with such a mess. I feel for you guys. Hopefully the OP gets it all cleaned up and doesn't suffer any prolonged effects from that mess.

That is plain nasty......

However there is some good news, I just saved a bunch of cash changing my insurance to Geiko....JK...

At least the OP's nails are nice and clean......

Makes me think about the Primo Chill I have in my loop.......

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Originally Posted by Section8

Man I feel for you guys. I am glad I have never had to deal with such a mess. I feel for you guys. Hopefully the OP gets it all cleaned up and doesn't suffer any prolonged effects from that mess.

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Fluid XP.

The original was notorious for leaving a waxy residue everywhere.

And not its not a simple film, but a thick wax coat.

Needless to say... many many many hours in with my radiator + rubbing alcohol + rad flush was required to get rid of all that nasty stuff.

really makes me wonder is this just cause off mixing feser with other stuff if so with what did op mix it with ?.

Im running Feser one UV blue right now :eek:, Im going to disassemble both my loops soon and attempt to open my cpu-350 (last time i tried i couldn't open it)

Dam guys thats some nasty stuff, I was using the feser uv blood red for a week but didnt wanna take the chance even with PT nuke so i ended up using distilled + Utopia which is basically the same as PT nuke.. @Naekuh u got pics dude? sounds interesting :D

Any updates for the effect of Feser 1 UV dye? Because I'm going to use Feser 1 for my dual loop and don't want to see many gunks around wc parts :eek:

Get coloured tubing.

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Originally Posted by zer0kewl

really makes me wonder is this just cause off mixing feser with other stuff if so with what did op mix it with ?.

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I'm fairly positive that SNiiPE didn't mix anything else in with it. He also isn't the only one having the problem so it's not an isolated incident.

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Originally Posted by Johnny87au

Dam guys thats some nasty stuff, I was using the feser uv blood red for a week but didnt wanna take the chance even with PT nuke so i ended up using distilled + Utopia which is basically the same as PT nuke.. @Naekuh u got pics dude? sounds interesting :D

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You may want to reconsider using that crap too. It has some form of surfactant (such as Water Wetter), which we stopped using a long time ago as it didn't have any positive impact on the system and long term use showed a slimy buildup on components that was difficult to remove and hurt temps.

why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol? I have unlike metals in my loop... so without a softener, galvanic corrosion would eat through my rad, in due time.

E: actually, whatever because that's what i've been doing for years and never had problems. *shrug*

E2: it's cheap too, you can just buy the green antifreeze. that's what it basically is.

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Originally Posted by ggdh

Get coloured tubing.

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Originally Posted by iddqd

why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol?

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This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned :shakes:

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Originally Posted by iddqd

why not do distilled + a bit of propylene glycol? I have unlike metals in my loop... so without a softener, galvanic corrosion would eat through my rad, in due time.

E: actually, whatever because that's what i've been doing for years and never had problems. *shrug*

E2: it's cheap too, you can just buy the green antifreeze. that's what it basically is.

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Mixed metals such as?

Mixing copper, chrome, nickel, brass, and gold is okay. You won't get corrosion.

If you have aluminum, that's a problem.

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Originally Posted by madmaxx

This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned :shakes:

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Hi!

How is it an absolute best? In temps vs distilled?

Btw, something about the stuff.

http://www.naturalnews.com/023138_pr...od_health.html

Also, mixing all the metals are fine except for AL as Polizei has mentioned.

Wes

so getting any kind off corosion is just imposible without corosion protection like when you got copper rad some nickel + bras fittings etc.

cous i'm thinking about going demi + killcoil atm ;P

Distilled+glycol if you have mixed metals

Distilled+silver(killcoil) if you dont have mixed metals.

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Originally Posted by zer0kewl

so getting any kind off corosion is just imposible without corosion protection like when you got copper rad some nickel + bras fittings etc.

cous i'm thinking about going demi + killcoil atm ;P

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Yes you wont get corrosion if you have stuff like copper, nickel or brass. Just stay away from aluminum.

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Originally Posted by Waterlogged

I'm fairly positive that SNiiPE didn't mix anything else in with it. He also isn't the only one having the problem so it's not an isolated incident.



You may want to reconsider using that crap too. It has some form of surfactant (such as Water Wetter), which we stopped using a long time ago as it didn't have any positive impact on the system and long term use showed a slimy buildup on components that was difficult to remove and hurt temps.

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oh you serious? the store i got it from recommended me it, You think just stick with PT nuke yeah?

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Originally Posted by madmaxx

This combination is the ABSOLUTE best there is! I'm surprised people still haven't learned :shakes:

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Glycol is toxic, and reduces the efficiency somewhat. It's not as much antimicrobial as silver or copper. And since it's an alcohol, it destroys acrylic and generally doesnt play well with plastics (even tubing not meant for it).
Unless you need its antifreeze properties (in which case you know what you are doing playing with a chiller) it's not a good solution for room temperature pc watercooling.