HT and NB are slower and of course ram etc ....That is most likely the cause.. since that game see's no impromement requardless of CPU..GPU bottle neck there..Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
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HT and NB are slower and of course ram etc ....That is most likely the cause.. since that game see's no impromement requardless of CPU..GPU bottle neck there..Quote:
Originally Posted by gallag
they already look desperate.....see its cause and effect..........They have to do it cause AMD did it.Quote:
Originally Posted by G0ldBr1ck
Reminds me of the line from Ironman
AMD did this in a cave........with a box of scraps!:ROTF:
A 3Ghz Opteron should be faster than the Q9650 if I reference SharkyExtreme. :O
However... SharkyExtreme used different resolution and different graphics card. :nono:Quote:
Originally Posted by Macadamia
Those UT3 and winrar results show some hope. Still let's wait for phenom with 1066 ram and 790GX chipset. I would say it's a significant difference. I expect the NB frequency to be at 2400mhz (agenas had a bit more Hurz too than barcies if I remembered correctly)
Exactly. The 35% increase in UT3 is a very good result! :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by donitsi
Actually the northbridge on all Barcelona chips at least for the single socket 75W ACP ran at 2ghz, which is faster than all Agena chips except the 9850 and the 9950. But I do agree that we should be seeing the nb on the 920 and 940 at around 2.4-2.5ghz. Hopefully since the chips work so much better under cold now we can see some massive overclocks to 3ghz and beyond on the nb combined with the 5ghz+ overclocks. You can bet that I will spend my time working on a 1:1 overclock of them both when I get the 940 hooked up to my vapo.
I ran a few comparisons here. I though those shanghais all come with 2.2GHz NB?
http://www.abload.de/img/results1cxt.jpg
Their 9950BE result looks like mine with mem at DDR2-800 CL6 unganged. So if shanghai/deneb scales similar to my 9950be the deneb result at 3GHz mem DDR2-1066 CL5 would be 32,5% faster, means ~2024KB/s which is 16% faster than the phenom at those speeds.
I beleive it is running at 1000mhz (i guess 2000mhz effective).. due to chiptset limitations.. The desktop solution have faster support, which is why Agena can run 2000mhz(4000mhz effective) with 950/9850 and 1800mhz(3600mhz effective) will all other models. If this server can 2000mhz(4000 effective) then the new AMD server chipsets won't be as much of an improvement as stated by AMD. Although, that 2.7ghz chip is supose to have a 2200mhz (4400mhz effective) with new AMD chipsets that will come out. we can assume that Phenom II will share this same 2200mhz if not more based on this being what the high end Opterons hold.Quote:
Originally Posted by Oldguy932
Or am a I way off here????? :confused:
Partly, only the HT speed is limited to 1000MHz not the NB speed I used 1GHz for my 800-CL6 benches above. BTW: My results under winxp 32bit are higher than those vista 64bit results.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Very interesting comment. I believe the word of mouth by select people are leading them to believe AMD definatly has a nice chip on it's hands or they wouldn't be bothered at all. When AMD revised the Phenom series with the 50's series CPU's Intel didn't bat an eye because word of mouth showed the Phenom 50's series wan't that stellar, but the Phenom II has them very worried. AMD said that they are VERY confident with Denebs/Shanghai and the chips surpassed their expectations. So word of mouth + confident AMD= A worried Intel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jazzman
Pricing wise I have always loved AMD and I am glad Intel may have to revise the prices of their over priced chips. All the Pro-Intel folks should THANK AMD for things like this. We can expect a ton of Intel folks shifting to AMD soon.:cool: The changes AMD made at their company will pay off VERY soon!
AMD="The Smarter Choice":up:
The difference in rated wattage between Shanghai and Deneb makes me wonder if Deneb will run NB at 2.4G or 2.6G.Quote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
well AM2+ board can run NB up to 2.6ghz AM3 can run it up to 3.2ghz.
each cpu should be able to reach 2.6ghz but not all of them do.
I have the same assumtion.. but we will have to wait and see.. Some leaked specs show 2200mhz..but makes me wonder why the 2600mhz ready on the boards if AMD did not plan on using it..Quote:
Originally Posted by Blaber
Overclock headroom maybe?:shrug: I've seen some people hitting CRAZY NB speed with just a standardQuote:
Originally Posted by charged3800z24
Phenom.
Where did you get this info?Quote:
Originally Posted by demonkevy666
I wouldn't be surprised if the AM3 boards would support the HT 3.1 standard as well. http://www.hypertransport.org/defaul...Specifications
I ran my nb all the way up to 2.75 at 1:1 with one of my 9850's under cold. So I was at 2.75 cpu/2.75 nb/2.75 htt. Its just as fast at memory intensive situations as a 2.9cpu/2.3nb/2.3htt. Not completely sure about the memory settings, probably all done on the 400mhz divider because it was before I got the ram I have in my systems now. The nb on current phenoms does amazing under cold compared to air. The same 9850 on air could do 3.0cpu/2.4nb/2.4htt relatively stable, not completely because it was my SB600 board and I haven't done any testing since I got my SB750 board. I'll be picking up parts for a new system at the end of my winter break assuming that's still when AMD is releasing them. Completely free tuesdays and thursdays will be pretty good, maybe I can find some ln2 to use in the room, my roomate shouldn't mind :rolleyes:
Yeah, it has to be with a fan.
Only 90 watt or less processors can be passively cooled.
The P2 940 is 125w TDP.
Therefore it would fry if it didn't have a fan to get rid of the heat specially overclocked.
It was with a fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo squartatore
What? You expected a 4Ghz overclock on a 45nm chip(loaded with crysis and far cry 2) to be handled with a fanless passive heatsink??Are you serious? Show me a yorkfield or even worse core i7 at that clock that can work fanless under load...Yeah,the result would be 2 melted boards and probably 2 dead chips(or maybe they'd have survived due to thermal protection kicking in).The temperatures would literary be in 100+ degrees Celsius range.Quote:
Originally Posted by lo squartatore
Please be serious...
FIXED!Quote:
Originally Posted by informal