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Originally Posted by DoubleZero
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interesting readQuote:
Originally Posted by DoubleZero
He went completely offroad when he took the 40% number and went onwards on that. K8 already beat Core 2 with about 20% in the same specrate benches.Quote:
Originally Posted by DoubleZero
if you think that THAT is the point of the article, well so be it....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
He just took that number for speculation, if you would have read the interesting part,you wouldnt post such crap.....
And btw, the 40% didnt came for specrate :up:
He speculated out from that number. And that number is both estimated and in a type AMD already own intel in.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
But the real problem is those numbers dont hold water in terms of average/realworld applications. If they did you would be playing games on a K8 and not a Core 2 for maximum performance.
And if not specrate, then what? Another heavy (synthetic) memory limited benchmark?
First he correlates Intel releasing Conroe on B2 and therefore hoping that AMD will, then guesstimates performance of K10, then tries to explain AMD's no show at Computex, so..was he trying to make a point or something :rofl: Of course, I can see why you link him, him being an AMD propagandist, with nuts sprinkled on top and all ;)
Read again man, if you even read 1/3 of the way you would know that he thought 40% was an overestimate (2.8 Ghz to compete with Penryn rather than 2.5).Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Spot on best post of the day. That "rant" was full of more FUD than FUDzilla.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
The guy is Sharikou's twin brother , move along please.
40% is number given by AMD....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
he just tries to uncover the real date of arrival for barcelona and tries to explain what can cause the delay...
Nothing more, nothing less
Damn, i wonder what the average IQ is around here
Savantu referring to him as "sharikou's brother" is calling the kettle black.
It isn't IQ that's the problem. They're just not reading the title, "AMD Barcelona thread". Not thread crap with Intel fanboy propaganda. There's a similar problem with any 2900XT threads, where nVidia fanboys ignore the title to swoop in with more propaganda.
Now with your brilliant IQ, where is the 40% number from?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...l?redir=CPBM01
If its not from specfp or specint.
If he just tries to uncover the delay, then why all the numbers and performance estimates? Specially those high estimates based on 40% IPC boost over Intel. thats what, ~60% over K8?
So no, he tries to hype and add fuel to the unneeded runaway speculation and hopes.
So what you say is critisism should be censored and only good thing said about something listed in the subject :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mav451
The key word is *constructive* criticism. There is some in this thread, but it is muddied by border-line (or actually crossing) Intel fanboy bull:banana::banana::banana::banana:. The same thing happened to the original K8L thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/32533/135/
I guess AMD is finally trying to put all the delay rumors to rest. I hope its true. They dont need another PR disaster like the R600 "family" launch. Some ppl at the graphics division hopefully got some serious heat for that.
Anand seems to have developed a serious grudge against AMD because they dont give him any exclusives(imo). Also why would you expect DT to do in-depth benchmarks, they are a news site and would overlap with AT if they did. That said the differences between their benching practices re not as big as you suggest. Btw i do read both regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by red
You are very funny. You say DT doesn't do indepth benches, then say they bench similarly. Is it that hard to post a link, having Anandtech or DailyTech being so far off the spectrum of what everyone else is saying? Is there any editorial besides loons like http://weblog.infoworld.com/yager/ar...fud_versu.html that is being nice to AMD as I'm sure you would like?
I thought you were someone with average IQ, but i start to doubt that right now....Quote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Don't you remember AMD claimed that K10 (barcelona) was 40% faster then an equal clocked QC Xeon??
you must be growing demented
But what about the *constructive* AMD fanboys, are they free to type whatever the hype. Or should their bull also be in the same bowl as the intels?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mav451
Yes, and besides being abit on the rude side. You should atleast check the AMD link i provided.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...l?redir=CPBM01
Now tell me what type of bench they did. And was 40% should be estimate 40%.
Yes thats correct, its a SpecFP_rate bench. Something K8 already beats the Core 2 on with about 20%. :clap:
For the people who can't read an article properly...
The next issue is performance. Back in January, Randy Allen at AMD stated that K10 would be 40% faster than Intel's best Clovertown. And, presumably this would be with the 2.5Ghz speed K10.
Maybe read the article first before replying?
I really dont see the relevance of your link...
cause we are talking about the article...
http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070301-8958.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Another specfp_rate.
http://news.softpedia.com/news/AMD-0...00-47032.shtml
Do I even have to say P4 and encoding benches along with Sandra?Quote:
AMD promises that Barcelona will be about 40% faster in a series of applications.
So stop the hype before it kicks you in the back when K10 launches. We already had plenty of dissapointment with R600.
Again your reply has nothing to do with the subjectQuote:
Originally Posted by Shintai
Do I say K10 will be 40% faster? NO
I just pointed out that the writer of the article didnt believe that either.
It's really starting to get boring if i have to explain you everything......
IQ<50???
Nice touch with the personals.Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
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Originally Posted by GoThr3k
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Originally Posted by GoThr3k
Now, since you claim its not specrate. And I have proven why it would be specrate with several links. Maybe you can do the same. Unless you think you are in a position not to be questioned. So if not specrate or another memory heavy benchmark. Then what?Quote:
Originally Posted by GoThr3k
And yes, we are still talking about the article, since it contains these numbers and base its conclusion and estimates from it.
Again a useless reply....
*sigh* iq must be below 30 i presume
the 40% came from an AMD statement,i don't know and don't care were they did get it from. They didnt meant specrate by any means, just overall....
phew,maybe i should copy that phrase so that i can press Ctrl+V when you reply again....
Btw, i still don't get it why you keep bringing that up??
The article wasn't about that at all....
Shintai,Randy Allen said that K10 will "blow away Clowerton in terms of performance" so it's pretty strong statement to make and a real PITA for AMD if it turns out to be false.So i guess it's not false,but very true.And we will soon find out for ourselves.So patience ,grasshopper(lol)