How do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathMonk
It's only 67 pages of experience with this board. :D
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How do you think?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathMonk
It's only 67 pages of experience with this board. :D
I wish I had another A64 just to test and see what I can do. None of my friends have A64. They are still on 32-bit. Although I am going to put my old 2500+ Barton syetem back together and see what I can get out of it.
True.. I see a few people saying they love it.. Is there any problems people are having with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeus
69 pages now ;)...I NEVER thought this thread would grow this big...LOL
only 29 pages for me when you set 60 posts per page in user options hehe
Only problem I have had so far is if I set the VDIMM too high for my +3.3 rail.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeathMonk
Gotta have it at 3.6 to get 3.3 (set to 3.2 in bios) to mem for me.. 3.3 @ 3.5 with bios set to 3.3 upsets the bios and mem defaults to 2.56v for some reason.
Depending on your ram shouldnt be a problem, but for ram that loves volts it was annoying to find.. why it cant just set to max available when going too far isntead of dropping to default?
Is your cpu voltage set to auto, mine does that when cpu voltage is set to auto, 3.1 = 3.1 for me but 3.2 = 2.5. Changed it from auto to 1.5v and your mem voltage should rise.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
Yeah this thread has grown to be useful for many people. And we have even started many off-threads concerning memory especially Rev 2 with the DFI:D
set to 110%.
I got a quick question...I want to know what CPU is the best one to get for this board that is performing the best. I am going to buy another A64 and through the one I have my old MSI board with that system together. And get another A64 for this board. I want better overclocking abilities. I was looking at a 3200+ ClawHammer DTR for $208.00. Or would the 3000+ maybe clock better. I just ordered my a XP-120 for my DFI system and I plan to throw my Zalman on my old system with my 1GB of RAM. I would have me two nice machines then. I plan to sell my old 2500+ Barton to my friend for about $90 because it is a damn good version of it. Let me know if that would be worth getting or if anyone knows where I can find a really good A64.
Ouch ... I was looking for the answer through the mountain of pages, but my 56K modem said no way. I see it has been mentioned already .... why can't I boot when I use a CPU multiplier of 9 ? I get a detecting RAID array error and then it reboots. Over and over. I'm using IDE drives and no RAID. I can use 8x multi and 10x multi but no 9. I've been up to 305 FSB with 8x. Please help.
mine workd fine @ 9.
:( Which BIOS you using then STEvil ?
10/15 4.0v iirc.
Are you using 2 sticks or one. alot of people are only able to use the 9 multi with just one stick and 2 sticks is a no go. For me, I cant use the 9 multi at all with my twinmoss 3700 but I can run it all day with my 2 sticks of hyperXQuote:
Originally Posted by Sheik
8-11x with 2 sticks of eb3700 has worked fine for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shroomalistic
I guess it all depends on the ram then.
I am using 2x512 of Mushkin Lvl 2 ;).. But since this is a 24/7 machine, I don't think I will be running over 3.1-3.2v anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
mmm my 9x multi problem is with 1 stick of PQI Turbo Sammy TCCD. I will give it a bash with my OCZ3700EB and see, but that won't solve it as I need to do it with my PQI i.e. my PQI's can get to 300 MHz but neither of my EB's will do more than 265 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Shroomalistic
2x512 OCZ amd my DFI in harmony :D ...
go for more ...
http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/8x300...24mb_prime.jpg
Wow, that's really nice!!
2x512 and 300HTT 1:1, Prime stable...that's the way i like it.
How bout 9x300?
I think the later 3400+ NewCastle's will do 2,7GHz easily?
Is it 100% errorfree in memtest?
edit: Just broke the 70 page barrier! :banana:
yes but i have some problems with multi 9!
perhaps a bug. i have allways bluescreens ...
I look for an answer ;)
That must be the first time ever on A64 with 2X512 at 300 htt. Would you mind post a sandra score or even better, run lobby high on 3d01 and post the results. Or is that 2T?
YES! Do this please..Quote:
Originally Posted by mackanz
No I have seen it before...I forget who...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mag Master 21
And can someome please tell me if a 3200+ DTR would actually clock better than a 3000+ DTR. CG Stepping of course.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
im now at working!
sure is this 1T :D ... i never take 2T!
i post a sisoft screen at the evening ;) ...
yes this is amazing 2x512 ddr600 @ 2.5-3-3-7!
p.s my vapo ls i arrived today! i will not sleep the next 3 days :D
Weird. The 9x multiplier works with my OCZ3700EB but not my PQI Turbo TCCD.
Just got back my UT from RMA.
Looking for memtest screenie @ best settings for ADATA PC4000 or TCCD w/ 9-10x * 250 FSB 1:1. List CPU and stepping (ie. CAAPC, CBASC) for both CH and NC type chips?
I dumped a 3000+ CBASC NC into my VNF-250 @ 9-10x *250 1:1 w/ both of the above and got 1993 and 1997 mb/sec stable respectively.
Do same thing w/ UT and get ~1662 MB/sec iirc.
That seems to be bad. :confused: :shrug: :wierd:
If you get close to where I am w/ the VNF, please include tweaker screenie :D
So until someone can validate or explain why I get such a discrepancy I am playing w/ DC.
Not to shabby. DFI UT, PC 3700 Platinum TCCD Brainpower 808 at 3.2 vdimm. Prime stable for 3 hours (i stopped it)
Well I ordered a XP-120 with a 120mm Blue UV Fan. It pushes about 70+ CFM. It should be decent enough and I also got an extra 120mm of the same to mount over my RAM. I bought me some 800-Grit, 1,000-Grit, 1,500-Grit, and 2,000-Grit sandpaper to lap it down real good. I am going to see if this helps out any. If either case I plan to buy a 3400+ NewCastle DTR from NewEgg. Hopefully after I get that I will be able to push my system alittle further. I am hoping anyway.
EDIT: All I can find now is ClawHammer C0 stepping CPUs for DTRs. Is that all there is anymore? Or is another ClawHammer C0 worth trying?
Link to DTR Here...
dont use nvidia IDE drivers and dont use the network manager. me installed windows yet again today.
now trying 304x8 with ram at 270 (9/10 div) will try 315x8 maybe with ram at 280
with vmod to +3.3 my PC2700 like :D
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overcrash86/...270superpi.jpg
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overcrash86/...PC2700@288.jpg
but my ADATA have a problems with the voltage over 3v ,i'v tryed with 3.1v (unstable):
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overcrash86/...@310sisoft.jpg
Got my a64 3400+ mobile 62W today :D
This is what i have testet so far on air with SLK948U and Papst92mm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v231/Fosco/jessda.jpg
What memory do you use ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco
OCZ EB :confused:
Fosco,
Was that from itbutikken? What stepping did you get?
It`s frome shg.dkQuote:
Originally Posted by mackanz
Stepping: CAAXC 0430VPMW batch 0038
overcrash86: it is ocz 3500eb 512mb
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco
with my OCZ EL PC3500 ,i go only to 260 ,but with more woltage :
http://perso.wanadoo.fr/overcrash86/...0+/OCZ@260.jpg
how can i get more oc out of my cpu? those with cpus around 2.5ghz+ what drive strength are you running? ive tried loosening almost every ram timing and can only get 304x8 not stable with ram at 270. now im setting for 320x7 ram at 280
but ram clock doesnt increase my 3d perfomce and i only get max 37s superpi no only 40s :(
Mrkl,Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrki
Damn nice Ram & chip you got there :toast:
Well the important thing to consider is, the higher the rating, the more multi options ya get. OT, but can someone explain how ya take a screenie of Memtest 86? Thanx. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
Ok..then what I plan to do is get a 3400+ DTR. Where can I get some good ones from cheap?
Do they ship international?Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco
I am on the hunt for one of those now. I want one!!
AMA3400BEX5AR
If anyone finds one let me know! LoL
That is for a Clawhammer. The 3400+ Newcastle will run 2.4 gHz stock AND give you the 11 multiplier possibility ( may be more friendly to a wider array of RAM ). I thought about going that route, ( my 3400 AR Clawhammer is decent at roughly 2.5 gHz ) but fiured if I'm going to get another A64, I might as well go DC/939. Also, aren't the 0432 stepping ( or later ), the 3400+(s) that are showing such overclockability?Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I am not sure. I just want to get another A64 that will overclock well and then put my old MSI A64 system back together with my 1GB of RAM and 9700 Pro that I have. And then my girlfriend can have a little gaming machine of her own :D Maybe I can get her into Day of Defeat and Counter-Strike :DQuote:
Originally Posted by serlv
I think I am going to get the 3400+ DTR from NewEgg. It is a ClawHammer and it says it is a C0 Stepping. I would love to have a NewCastle 62w CG Stepping. But I am sure the shipping on one from Overseas is unreal.
EDIT:
Also, I notice the all the pictures of the DTRs the IHS is already removed. If they come like this as so...would I have the mod my XP-120 and retention bracket in anyway to have it make good contact with it? It was just something I remember wondering.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
the xp-120 works just fine with a nude CPU.
baldy :D
HEHE! I am thinking of stripping my 3200+ nude :D
Not sure if I know how to do it right and am afraid of ruining it.
Hopefully my XP-120 will be here tomorrow and I can begin the lapping process. I am going to use it to shave in after I am done lapping it lol.
EDIT:
Well I finally gave in and ordered the 3400+ DTR. Newegg Says it is a ClawHammer but hopefully it is a later one and does alot better for Overclocking. Atleast I have the benefit of the 11x multi to play with.
Well, let us know the week and stepping, when you get it. Thanks.
Nice score, here's my 3200+ @2.65 score, with memory at 265MHz 2.5-3-3, which is the highest a Hynix D43 can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fosco
http://www.hkepc.com/bbs/attachments..._cupmark99.jpg
It's funny to see that after 2.6GHz for every 10MHz it scores 1 more point in CPUmark99.
Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
I did that to my 3200+ from day one, so I can't tell how much it help in overclocing. But it did drop the temp quite significantly.
DFI powered
Powercolor X800XT PE Stock heatsink @ 605/605 = 33,453
DX8.1 with Omega 8.07
Win2K SP4 latest updates
Full system config in compre url description field :)
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/60...5_33453_tn.jpg
:cool:
Nice overclock, though I feel you could higher in sandra mem.Quote:
Originally Posted by overcrash86
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...f_a64_2600.gif
Man that's sick!!! :slobber: :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Btw, is omega better than vanilla 8.07 in 3dm01?
i think omega 8.07 is slightly faster than ATI's 8.07beta
Btw have you tried the official 4.11? I feel it's faster than 3dm3 and 05 then the beta one. Not sure on 01 thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
Too bad that 4.12 beta doesn't work on win2000...
cat 4.11 still slower than Omega 8.07 for me in 3d2k1 and 3d2k3 http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...ad.php?t=45705 haven't paid attention much to 3d2k05 though
you guys running old control panel style or newer ccc?
I'm 95% sure all DTRs are CGs. And as far as heatsinks go, just drill a couple big old holes in your mobo tray, and it won't matter how long the screws are, for the backplate. I've never used a retention bracket, I just mount my HS straight through to the backplate. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ugp
old control panel .. since Omega 8.07 don't need CCC :)Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
thought I'd smash the 34k barrier :D
Powercolor X800XT PE stock heatsink @ 606/604 = 34,008
http://www.fileshosts.com/AMD/DFI/60...4_34008_tn.jpg
:D
Your 3700+ is a nice chip. What's the cooling and room temperature?Quote:
Originally Posted by eva2000
3DMark01 really love high FSB with tight memory timing!
Well there are some of them that are C0. Whether or not that is what I get I am not sure. Hopefully what ever I get is a good clocker and I can atleast get 2.4/2.5ish out of it. My heatsink should be here today :D My arm is going to be tired from lapping it I can tell you that.Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman
But I will let everyone know the exact stepping codes on the CPU and what I can get out of it when I get it up and running and 'overclocked'
Well the XP-120 is alittle different than that isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman
cooling in sig, in compare url http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=8245604 ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ahfung
room temp 28-30C, water temp 28-31C :)
I've a friend who has bought a DFI UT250 and its priming at 370Mhz 100% stable with any mods :slobber: I couldn't pass from 310Mhz with my ex dfi...
It seems some are having all the fun with it and others are just stock at very small overclocks and then others are just having every problem in the world. It is very sad indeed. Not that DFI fault though I know. Just all the other hardware it seems to be.
OMG, now it's priming at 400HTT!!! :slobber:
I have all problems in the world also.
So your not alone =)
Will play with HTT a while, has nothing to do =)
I can't use more than 320 HTT at any divider. Just refuses to boot pass "Detecting array". Exactly the same with 272+ at 1:1. If clockgen didn't exist, i would have thrown this board aways a long time ago.
im testing my new cpu :D
http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x29...rtguardian.jpg
Ouch! What cooling?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrki
vapo ls ...
i think i must have more than 30k with 2.9GHz or not?
thats a x800xtpe
http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/10x29...rk01_29951.jpg
Heck yeah, you should be scoring a LOT higher. Do you have your drivers tweaked up for gaming? That's the most common reason for bad scores, at least for me. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrki
Grab you some DNA-Drivers...I got my XP-120 today and I am going to wait to mount it until I get my 3400+ DTR. God I can't wait until I can do some more testing with it.
Why don´t you guys give me some real STABLE results with your "high" OC´s... ;) ... ;) ... :D
http://koti.welho.com/jlinna2/DFI%20...@1.81V_mod.JPG
though I don´t know if this is...
Should 2.5GHz be achievable on air? Perhaps with a XP-120?
easily. with a 3400 2.6 is more like it
ugp if you can oc well then its my cpu.
Well in any case I am going to get the highest possible stable 24/6 OverClock I can. With it getting cold now and my window opened it makes it alittle easier :DQuote:
Originally Posted by reject
Here we go, ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by jayl
http://www.anti-x.org/bbs/attachment...me95_pass2.gif
Btw, i saw u ran "Blend" torture test, which IMHO isn't stressful for the CPU enough. Try "in-place large fft" for real challenge.
no small ffts stresses the fpu more
There's a good article about prime95 in ocforumsQuote:
Originally Posted by reject
To sum up, large in-place fft is the best coz it'd stress L2 better than small fft. With small fft the L2 might not be fully utilized. Same go for Blend test with ultra big fft, which is going to stress memory more than L2.
what you mean with "drivers tweaked up" ?Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman
some settings?
i cant understand why i have only 31sek in pi :(
with 3060MHZ i must have 29 or so ...
have somebody an idea?
/edît
this is 1T
http://mitglied.lycos.de/siedl/12x25...7_pi_31sek.jpg
try tweaking the advanced dram timings
Meaning, do ya have AA or AF on? Or anything in your vid cards control panel, that you'd change for gaming, and forgot to change back for benching. Like reject said, tweaking up your RAM's timings and speed will do wonders. I'd drop the multiplier, and go for a higher HTT. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrki
also try running ram at highest 2-2-2 speed. superpi likes lower latency than high speed.
So far I have tested my Rev 2 to do 220 @ 2-2-2 but I believe it will do alittle more than that with a good memory controller. That was also with 2 sticks in as well.
nice i would stick with that rather than highest 2.5-3-3 speed you are lucky look at my ram hahahah
2-2-2 owns
what about 2.5-2-2? thats even better if you can get higher
Reject what happens if you change cas 3 to 2.5 and dont touch any other setting ?
And cas can never be higher then the other 2 settings i think, will not boot.
Got a new board today, will be fun again.
Quote:
Originally Posted by spaceman
aa and af are off ...
I think it's about right. For your reference my 3200+ 1MB oc to 2.7GHz mem at 300MHz 2.5-3-3 is 31s too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mrki
Quote:
Originally Posted by ahfung
yes 1mb cache give you about 200mhz more and 1000points more in 3dmark01 in the comparison for the NC!
but i have 3ghz and 30k is to small :( ... and only 31sek in pi :(
in 3dmark03 i have 12800 with a x800 xt pe 520/560 16pipes! i must have so 13800 or so!
hmm am i reinstall my OS?
ubermann
i got a new cpu overclock and now my ram speed is lower so im gonna experiment a bit with timings.
using memtest a while ago i found cas 2.5 gives me 25mb/s more but trp to 3 gives me about 70mb/s
it doesnt matter about cas being higher, what about ocz EB at 3-2-2?
did you have to rma your board?
New board alot different then old one.
Cant run same speed.
Dimm2 slot is the only one able to do any decent overclock.
Trouble with multipliers...and so on.
But temps and volts are correct now, go figure =)
Wonder about leaving and buy some other brand.
no please dont! tell dfi they care if your not satisfied.
maybe u need to flash bios
oh 9x multi is a problem for everyone
i tried rp at 3 ran test 5 20 times. boosted my bandwidth to 1674 mb/s from 1589 :D
prime not stable but if i crash ill jsut up a voltage. i dont like prime its too picky and takes too loong
no please dont! tell dfi they care if your not satisfied.
maybe u need to flash bios
oh 9x multi is a problem for everyone
i tried rp at 3 ran test 5 20 times. boosted my bandwidth to 1674 mb/s from 1589 :D
prime not stable but if i crash ill just up a voltage. i dont like prime its too picky and takes too loong
good luck with ya board
Installed xp with 330FSB =)
how's the unbuffered bench?
I'm pushing 2046/2047 unbuffered @ 9x250 1.5-2-2-0 lol ;)
Wow Uber, that's just sick man!! :slobber: :slobber:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ubermann
Looks like your new board is ok after all?
I get my new CPU tommorrow, 3400+ NewCastle week 0434, let's pray i can finally show some nice screenies. ;)
Lost partitions twice and bios reseted itself a couple of times..gave up.
It was with 3-5-4-10 timings =)