radaja
Very good job, mate !
Guys! Congrats me! I have found the second RED DEVIL kit from CellShock manufactured 24/07! Now I have 4 Gb of CellShock power :up:
Tests soon...
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radaja
Very good job, mate !
Guys! Congrats me! I have found the second RED DEVIL kit from CellShock manufactured 24/07! Now I have 4 Gb of CellShock power :up:
Tests soon...
thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
thats great news about the second kit of RED DEVILS:up:
radaja
Never thought Giga can produce quite good mobos...
Very nice chip :up:
yea these gigabyteUD3's are great boards.
but like zsamz says,memory scores are about
average on the P45 front.the DFI P45's
memory bandwidth is much better.but hey
the way i look at it is these boards are right
in the middle of perfection.
PS-where did you find the cellshocks?
if you dont mind me asking.
Hey radaja, could you please post some settings, I'm mostly interested in CPU and MCH voltages ( ref, vtt... )Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
Would be very much appreciated! :)
Congrats! You have been looking for that kit as hard as me searching Crucial anniversary kits... maybe even harder. :clap:Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
just playing around with my corsair dominators pc2 8500 ver 1.2
Everest bandwidth numbers needed!
sure.here you go.i had a hard time going above 540fsb then i changed my mch ref from 0.750v w/vtt of 1.28 to 0.770v w/vtt 1.28 shows in ET6 as 0.720v.Quote:
Originally Posted by Don_Dan
Code:Load-Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Vcore [ 1.25000 ]...................1.368
CPU Termination [ 1.20 ]...................1.28
CPU PLL [ 1.50 ]..................... 1.57
CPU Reference [ 0.760 ]...................normal
MCH Core [1.100 ].....................1.40
MCH Reference [0.760 ]...................0.770
MCH/DRAM Refernce [0.900 ].................normal
ICH I/O [1.500 ].......................normal
ICH Core [1.100 ]..................... normal
.
DRAM Voltage [1.800 ]...................2.34
DRAM Termination [0.900 ]...................normal
Channel A Ref [0.900 ]...................normal
Channel B Ref [0.900 ]...................normal
There is one guy from my country, Russia, another city, which had had them for the last year :) Kit will have been shipped till the end of this weekQuote:
Originally Posted by radaja
My current kit does 1200mhz at only 2,02v, fully stable (Prime, WinMemtest 3.8). That guy sent me pics, his kit can do the same.
Today I take my Swiftech and EK wb`s for NB and Mosfet. Hope my MIIF will handle 4x1gb to make me happy :up:
many last good d9 pc2-8500 can do that but i guess u wanted them red heatspreaders lolQuote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
You`re absolutely right :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
thats good that your new kit does 1200MHz at 2.02v too
that will make it easier to do 1200MHz with all dimms populated
and hopefully with 2.02v:)
they gonna need 2.04.2.06v;) for all 4Quote:
Originally Posted by radaja
If I may know, what Vdimm to you need for 4-4-4-12 @ 1200Mhz+ ? Also, what Vdimm do you need for 5-5-5-12/15/18 @ 1200Mhz+ ?Quote:
Originally Posted by EliTE22
:up:
Thnx.
cas4 @ 613 was 2.7vdimm in the bios:( alot higher then i liked and cas5 600 is 2.1vdimm in the bios stable and with 4 dimms (same doms) in its 2.12v in the bios my other kits not as goodQuote:
Originally Posted by Slyr7.62
I'd previously posted these results back in April before XS lost quite a few posts, Maximus Formula with Rampage BIOS and my G.Skill 2GBHZ 1000 C4 kit.
I just tested 1 stick of my CellShock PC2-8500 ram with D9GMH it got 1200MHz (600) 4-4-4-12 :D with 2.58v.
http://img32.imageshack.us/img32/401...0613140453.png
2.1V for Cas 5, 1200Mhz isn't bad at all. Especially with 4 dimms. 2.7V is insane, what do you use to cool the ram? Even though I don't overVolt my ram(much), earlier tonight I rigged an Antec SpotCool fan on Low speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by EliTE22
Wow, 1200+ Mhz Cas 4 sure does eat Voltage. 2.58V for you and 2.7V for Elite22. :lol2:Quote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
Good work though. Plenty of skills mixed with some luck equals breaking (performance) barriers.
Thanks :up:
Well done guys!
P.S. The results of playing with CellShock 4x1Gb PC9200 "Red Devil" are coming soon ;)
The last time I tested them, which admittedly has been a while, my Corsair DDR2-1250 kit could do 600MHz C4 with about 2.45V. It really just depends on the kit, but I'd say that confirms the sticks use GKX. I don't think GMH can do high C4 with low volts like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Slyr7.62
Yeah those PC10000 corsair sticks were regularly hitting 600 - 620 MHz CAS4, but despite that some still couldn't hit 650 - 660 MHz CAS5 bench stable.
good gmh can do this. :yepp:
my crucial pc8500 can do 1200 4-4-4-4 with 2.38
good d9gmh can do 1200+ cas4 2.4v;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
Lucky, I wish I had ram that good :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Mafio
Nothing exceptional to see here except some rather nice performance efficiency but I like the sticks so much I don't dare to push them yet so here's my 2 plausible 24/7 configs at 2.15v (never tried going lower). I managed to get a short circuit so a fuse in my student appartment went off killing one of my precious CellShock DDR2-1000 4-4-4-12 sticks. I applied for RMA and got a new kit and this new one is at least as good as the old.
DDR2-1000 4-4-4-8 PL7 2.15v 500x8 1:1
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/7539/everestram.jpg
DDR2-1200 5-5-4-10 PL8 2.15v 500x8 5:6
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2396/everest2x.jpg
Don't seem to have any MemTest screen of DDR2-1200 config saved but I found this of the DDR2-1000 config:
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/7...ability.th.jpg
I prefer using the first config. P35 & Micron D9GKX ftw!
Nice setup, the P35's respond well to CAS4. P45 CAS4 performance is barely any better than when using CAS5 at the same frequency. Shame about the power spike that killed your stick, good thing you managed to get an RMA.
Here's my CellShock 8000 C4 sticks.
600 MHz / 5-5-5-15 @ 1.97v / 500% dual HCI Memtest
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...v-PL8vNB12.jpg
hello everybody.
i have a pair ok kingston 2x1gb 1150 d9gkx. on my motherboard a dfi p35 t2rl i can't clock them to maximum, i can't reach 1200.....
i want to buy from somebody a motherboard named asus comando :D
can you say if i will cam overclock my memories on this board... i am desperate!
i
Maybe, it may take some work (and voltage) though, the P965's were not the best ram overclocking boards - mione topped out around 640 MHz with pretty scary vMCH and around 1200 with safe voltages.
You'd be better off going for something like the Gigabyte UD3P or UD3R (they are cheap and clock ram extremely well) or an X48 like the DFI T2RSB Plus or Asus Rampage Formula.
Yeah, I pulled mine back out, still can do 600MHz C4 with 2.45V but won't do 650 C5 for anything :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Guys...
He tricked me out of 70 EUROS... CellShock kit I have gotten is dead... f****g *****!
:( :( :(
Dam that really sucks, sorry to hear that :(
comando will clock the ram past 1200 but will take more voltage on ram and boardQuote:
Originally Posted by raresvintea
get a good p45
or get d9gmh or get low voltage blades
the ut p35 is the best board for core2duo but no good with d9gkx
waterflex i know how you feel man i hate them kind of mofos
I took a chance on some CellShock 1150s off eBay, we'll see how they are when they get here. Seller has great feedback score so I'm not too worried.Quote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Shiranui Gen-An
Pay attention: the best kits of "Red Devil" are those which manufactured by 25 week of 2007. All others are not too good. I had kits manufactured at 36 and 44 weeks. They are not so good as mine kit.
70 pages.. I guess this means GKX modules are still loved? :p:
Sure they are :) But I am awfully dissapointed CellShock doesn`t produce RAM anymore... :(
I'm pretty sure they went out of business :( If anyone is interested I have a kit of Cellshocks (D9GKX) that need a good home. They just been sitting in their box since I upgraded to 4GB aXeRAM.
IMO, I would get this PC9200 kit and save a truckload of change.
This kit is better and I have it for sale in Moscow, Russia :up:
hello
i borrow from a friend of mine a pair of mushkin xp2-8500 5-5-4-12 with d9gmh! on my motherboard dfi p35t2rl i can't pass over 1110mhz. it's imposible.
but with a pair of team xtrem i can reach 1200, but they are not mine.... i have made a only a test....
have you any other sugetions? what to set, how to... i don't know..... i want to reach 1200 but i can't. motherboard boot and remains at dfi screen.... can you give me sugestions... pls
sorry for my english
some of those mushkin are d9gkx lolQuote:
Originally Posted by raresvintea
if they are d9gmh they are degraded;)
and best to use 333 divider;)
waterflex: you shoulda got the lv blades instead of tryin to get them red cellshock
From what I could find out, their both the same just badged differently ;) Although that doesn't excuse the fact I was too lazy to see if memoryc had the 9600 kit :p: in which case for the very small price difference, I would get the PC9600 kit and be happy :DQuote:
Originally Posted by WaterFlex
Will be in my hands in 4 hours :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I am selling my CellShock, guys...my lovely, good and brave red sticks... after making sure my new OCZ RAM will be fine.
Lucky git :p: I also have my Cellshocks up for sale, just don't need them so they may as well go to a good home.
Waterflex, Did you test both sticks and both are dead? Why dont you try and freeze your non functional cellshocks and see if this revives them?
Also I wouldnt sell your functional ones, have some fun with them and keep them for backup ram. They are too rare to sell off IMO, and I have yet to see you run some SPI32M etc at high clocks. I want to see what they can do :)
Of course! Micron RevD chips still the only ones to my knowledge that can clock up over 700MHz.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
I dunno - they seem popular here but I tried selling a Cell Shock D9GKX kit on ebay and it didn't sell :eek: I'd have given a limb for D9GKX, but I suppose now it's rare because it's slowly becoming obsolete, not because it's in high demand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
elpida rev:D is where it at now lol if they are reliable
Quote:
Originally Posted by RPGWiZaRD
why is your TRRD setting loose?
you should be able to do 1200cl5 @ 1.9Xv with trrd 5 mate
Cuz I get best performance & stability at 5-8-5 (trrd/trd-wr/trtp), I've run the everest benchmark like 20 - 30 times switching between 3-8-3 for example but I get same or slightly better performance at 5-8-5. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by dro
I've spent lots of time getting those scores I'm getting at those configs that I can assure you of, I've tried all timings one by one to find the best settings.
trfc I could prolly lower still to like 22-23 but 25 is such a good number already at these speeds it satisfies me like this. Also tref could possibly also use 4041T setting but yea I'm fine like this really for 24/7. :p
I doubt it's easy to get better results than that at 4.0GHz, especially the DDR2-1000 config and with less than 2.15v for the RAM. 1) It needs a P35 board (for PL7 at 500 fsb) and 2) Good D9GKX or some of the best D9GMH sticks.
There are prolly some more efficient boards out there than my P35 DS4 tho, especially the latency at DDR2-1200 5-5-4-10 is rather high at 50.9ns (I'd expect some boards to do around 49ns at same settings) but DDR2-1000 4-4-4-8 48.9ns then again is acceptable thx to PL7.
sorry, your sig said :Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
did you mean you can run 4 stick of ram @ 1200 with the dfi-x38 ?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
i'm trying to find the right mobo for 4x1gb overclocking.. my current dfi dk p45 don't do well with 4 sticks of team xtreem pc8500.
thx :)
edit : woopss.. it took me more than a year to post my first post here @ xs :D
:yepp::yepp: dfi x38-48 can do 4 stix 1200mhz easyQuote:
Originally Posted by amukti
the ut p35 can do 4 stix around 1150mhz
dfi dk p45 cant run 4 stix properly need proper bios
i maxed out 4 stix on x38@ 1274mhz http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=226666
I dunno, I think ppl on ebay just don't know what their looking for most of the time, try selling them here and I bet someone will grab them within a week :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by LennyRhys
Hy all
Small fun in day :)
http://img507.imageshack.us/i/1001449e.jpg/
http://img170.imageshack.us/i/1001467.jpg/
1560 Mhz CL5 http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=592765
Crucial Ballistix Tracer
EP45-UD3R
toyone
Wow, thats extreme! Great job really :up:
Thanks WaterFlex
Hungarian record 1580Mhz CL5
Did not manage to disprove it for me. Maybe later ;)
TOYONE,holy cow that is awesome
:bows:
Just got another set of D9GKX in :rofl:
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3535/dsc00314pri.jpg
got my first sub 10 32m score:D
http://i42.tinypic.com/ok0sgn.jpg
everest score at 9x545@4905 ddr1308 pl8
http://i42.tinypic.com/5tvs0l.jpg
Shiranui Gen-An looking forward to your results
with these stix
that aint got no d9:rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
I examined the chips from the sides. No feet like Elpida, flat just like the rest of my D9 sets.Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Ballistix 16FD3:
http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/428...0336zzv.th.jpg
HyperX:
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/7017/hyperxics.th.jpg
I think this is the most convincing evidence :D
http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/286...yperx1m.th.jpg
*EDIT* Ignore the SmartGuardian VDIMM reading, it is set to 2.45V in the BIOS.
your verry luckyQuote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
i examined 40+ sets of them hyperx sli and all were not d9
Ones with the old-style heatspreaders like mine?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
radaja congratulations sub 10 min 32M :clap:
thanks toyone.going to try for 9x556@5004
not sure if i can do it on air though,but going
to try it an do a quick 1m run.
good luck:up:
:yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
you got one of the few that fell through the cracks:rofl:
well this is as high as ill go for now.
9x549@4941 ddr1317 pl8 1m Pi
http://i40.tinypic.com/2qalaab.jpg
9x549@4941 ddr1317 pl8 32m Pi
http://i43.tinypic.com/eio49d.jpg
and the everest score
http://i41.tinypic.com/hv12f8.jpg
:clap::up:
today is a good day to finally hit5Ghz:D:D:D
9x556@5004 ddr1334 pl8
http://i42.tinypic.com/14aext.jpg
everest score(this is on 32bit OS)
http://i40.tinypic.com/2zdytd1.jpg
Gratz radaja, what cooling did you use?
im using a mini-typhoon w/a 92mm 4700rpm fan mounted blowing down
and then i have a dryer vent hose hooked up to my airconditioner
that sit right above my cpu blowing cool air straight down.
I have a 2 questions :D
- Wich is better kit? Teamgroup Xtreem 1200 or Teamgroup Xtreem Superoverclocking Dual spec? What chips are used (xtreem 1200 ->d9gkx) (superoc ->d9????) ?
- Wich is vdimm for daily use without fan? [my ram is life-warrant with 1200MHz 5-5-5-15 2.35v-2.45v]
to be honest i prefer doin 1200 with 2.02Quote:
Originally Posted by User111
even then i use a fan
hows team rma in europe i know its verry bad in northamerica
get whats cheaper pc2-9600
yes but which is the maximum voltage without fan?? the oldest kit I used at 2.15 on p5k 1.2GHz
d9gkx needs voltsQuote:
Originally Posted by User111
if you want to run withought a fan get good d9gmh that dont need more than 2.05 to run 1200
you can do 1100 1.9v withought a fan as long as there is some air circulating
but even then i'd put a low noise fan;)
i lost 5 good sets of d9 on gigabyte p35 x38 boards with 2 50cfm fans 2.24v;)
One of my GKX died and I had a memory cooler right on it, latterly I was running only 2.1v through it so D9 is fragile stuff. :(
nice idea :D 8x8?Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
nope 92mm 8x8 too noisyQuote:
Originally Posted by User111
Got old double sided crucial tracers 8500 clocks around 600 5-5-5-15 on something between 2.0 - 2.1v but only with fan, without fan they doesn't want to work without errors. Is this normal?
no not normalQuote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
i bet thermaltape not doing proper contact
take care of em they might die lol
just put in freezer lol
So what you suggest to do? Remove heatspreaders and replace thermaltape?
Anyway they are doing factory settings without problems, just overclocking makes them really really hot.
remove the heatspreaders nQuote:
Originally Posted by kuebk
let the run wild and freee:rofl: with a fan
I don't think it's a good idea...
I finally got my Cellshock 1150 sticks today. I haven't really pushed them, I just wanted to see how much voltage they needed for 600MHz C5 on the 2:3 divider. Looks like they require about 2.12v.
http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/609...5pl5cs1655.jpg
Nice result Shiranui Gen-An, are they getting hot on such voltage/speed?
Nice work Radaja, that CPU is brilliant.
My GKX kits only need 1.97v for 600 MHz stable with quite tight timings, which is 0.05v less than your Crucial GMH. They also do 650 MHz stable with 2.26v (Max II Formula) and 2.24v (P5Q-D).Quote:
Originally Posted by zsamz_
Not bad I'd like to see more from that kit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shiranui Gen-An
*****************************
Some preliminary results with my X48-T2RSB Plus.
SPI32M @ 542 FSB / 650 MHz / PL8
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...6501MHzPL8.jpg
Everest @ 542 FSB / 650 MHz / PL8
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...6501MHzPL8.jpg
Everest @ 550 FSB / 660 MHz / PL8
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...B660MHzPL8.jpg
Mind sharing your settings for those clocks Cryptik? Specifically DRAM settings (drive strength, skew model, etc).
Sure, these are the main ones I left a bit out though.
EDIT - think I made a mistake there (changed it now) - pretty sure the clock crossing & common clock settings were set to nominal or auto rather than aggressive. I cant be sure exactly I had only been playing with the board for about 3 hours and I didn't write anything down.Code:Exist Setup Shutdown: Mode 2
O.C. Fail retry Counter: 0
O.C. Fail CMOS Reload: Disabled
CPU Clock Ratio: 7x
CPU N/2 Ratio: Disabled
Target CPU Clock: 3794Mhz
CPU Clock: 542
Boot Up Clock: AUTO
CPU Clock Amplitude: 800mv
CPU Clock0 Skew: 200ps
CPU Clock1 Skew: 0ps
DRAM Speed: 333/800
- Target DRAM Speed: DDR2-1302
PCIE Clock: 100mhz
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Voltage Settings
CPU VID Control: 1.35625v
CPU VID Special Add: AUT0
DRAM Voltage Control: 2.50v (this was required the kit I was using was my worst kit)
SB Core/CPU PLL Voltage: 1.51
NB Core Voltage: 1.604v (probably overkill)
CPU VTT Voltage: 1.250v
Vcore Droop Control: Enabled
Clockgen Voltage Control: 3.45v
GTL+ Buffers Strength: Strong
Host Slew Rate: Weak
x MCH RON Offset Value:
x MCH RTT Offset Value:
x MCH Slew Rate Offset Value:
x MCH VREF 1 Value:
x MCH VREF 2 Value:
x MCH VREF 3 Value:
x CPU GTL 0/2 REF Volt: 0.667X
x CPU GTL 1/3 REF Volt: 0.667X
x North Bridge GTL REF Volt: 0.61X
DRAM Timing
- Enhance Data transmitting: FAST
- Enhance Addressing: FAST
- T2 Dispatch: Disabled
Clock Setting Fine Delay
- DRAM CLK Driving Strength: Level 3
- DRAM DATA Driving Strength: Level 3
- Ch1 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 7
- Ch2 DLL Default Skew Model: Model 7
Fine Delay Step Degree: 5ps
Ch1 Clock Crossing Setting: Nominal
Ch2 Clock Crossing Setting: Nominal
Ch1Ch2 CommonClock Setting: Nominal
Ch1 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch1 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Ch2 RDCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 WRCAS GNT-Chip Delay: Auto
Ch2 Command to CS Delay: Auto
Common CMD to CS Timing: AUTO
CAS Latency Time (tCL): 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay (tRCD): 5
RAS# Precharge (tRP): 5
Precharge Delay (tRAS): 15
All Precharge to Act: AUTO
REF to ACT Delay (tRFC): AUTO
Performance LVL (Read Delay) (tRD): 8
Read delay phase adjust: Enter
Ch1 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 1 Phase 0 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 1 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 2 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 3 Pull-In: AUTO
- Channel 1 Phase 4 Pull-In: AUTO
Ch2 Read delay phase (4~0)
- Channel 2 Phase 0 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 1 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 2 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 3 Pull-In: Auto
- Channel 2 Phase 4 Pull-In: Auto
MCH ODT Latency: AUTO
Write to PRE Delay (tWR): AUTO
Rank Write to Read (tWTR): AUTO
ACT to ACT Delay (tRRD): 3
Read to Write Delay (tRDWR): AUTO
Ranks Write to Write (tWRWR): AUTO
Ranks Read to Read (tRDRD): AUTO
Ranks Write to Read (tWRRD): AUTO
Read CAS# Precharge (tRTP): AUTO
ALL PRE to Refresh: AUTO
thanks CryptiK ,looks like your enjoying your
X48-T2RSB Plus.nice results
I really should put the DK X48 back in PC #2 and pair it with the E8400 and take out the UT P35. I have a bunch of GKX kits I want to push.
So you guys bought a X48-T2RSB Plus... I've been looking at them for quite a while now, very tempting to get them, just for playing with 4GB.
Did you make tests how much 4GB-clocking improved over your old board?
Don't think this particular kit will go any higher without getting into the downright dangerous vdimm on aircooling range. This board does clock ram pretty well, better than both my P45's. I have never tried clocking 4GB of ram on this board so I can't comment about that.
SPI32M @ 550 FSB / 660 MHz / PL8
http://i720.photobucket.com/albums/w...z660MHzPL8.jpg
How much voltage for that?Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Vdimm used was? Please post an Everest screen, bandwidth should be pretty good at those settings.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
4GB is the only reason for me to get this board, as it should be better than P45 boards by quite a big margin. Try it! ;)
How hot is your memory guys at ~2.2v? Mine is getting in middle 50* what does make me think that something is wrong.
Have double sided ballistix tracers 1066 2x1 and and any ocing without additional fan is impossible due to memories getting way to hot.