If you ever want OC, yeah, vdroop is the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
Fernando
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If you ever want OC, yeah, vdroop is the enemy.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
Fernando
bios 0903 works great!
Just wondering Y is it so bad? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by freyesm
My vdroop is 0.016v is that bad?
0.016v is almost nothing, so for your case, no (lol).Quote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
Only on extreme OC probably, but that would be LN2.
Fernando
YAY THX. I never plan on overclocking this computer under LN2.Quote:
Originally Posted by freyesm
You know this board has some V-Droop but don't let that be your excuse for not having a great Overclock!!
If you go about it thinking you can't get there then you never will. This board is extremely robust and dead fast stable!!
Mix it with the right parts and it will go just as high and fast as anyone else with the same parts.
I have been running bios 903 for a couple weeks now and I have adopted it as my now official bios.
I'm telling you this board is absolutely great so if you can't get there than take a look at the parts you've assembled and start figuring out why
If you can't find any deficiencies there then stay away from all mirrors cuz you may well see the problem.:shocked:
Oh even though it is still summer here I cranked up to run 32M Pi cuz there were too many guys coming in at 10min 30sec.xxx range
So I had to crank it up a bit and give it a go:yepp:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...GTX/piiiii.jpg
That is the 7th fastest Pi 32M on Xtreme systems:cool:. Liquid cooled processor, everything else air.
Don't tell me this board is deficient....:ROTF: No Mods of any kind to the board:shocked:
Great board!!
WZ
Whats the best bios to convert the P5E too RF or P5E deluxe?and does it lower vdroop.
WOW thats awesome, try for 5.0GHz :)Quote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
I just flashed to RF 0403 and Vdroop is not only gone, I now have a Vbump:shrug: with LLC enabled. With P5E Bios I was drooping .008 under load, with RF, I'm bumping .008. Another plus is I can now run my GSkill at 4:5. All P5E Bios' limited me to 5:6 and 1:1 at my clocks. I'm waiting for koda to update the flash tool to try Delux 0205 Bios.:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by malik22
Quote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
Why dont you use the method in this link to flash to the Deluxe 0205?
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580
Should be the same as flashing to RF.
Deluxe 0205 bios not doing well for me. Same OC and voltage settings as P5E bios cause crashes and lockups with Deluxe bios. I'm going to flash to RF 0408 and start playing with those.
Have you tried bios 0903? No problems with this gskill and 4/5:Quote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2259/454qb9.jpg
Yes, I have. It's not the same GSkill. Mine is F2-8000CL5-2GBPQ. At 4:5, the board does not post and I have to turn off PSU to get the bios to boot to default. Also just realized you're using a C2D. I had better results with this RAM and the E6750. Trouble didn't start until I went to the quads.
Oh so the problem with dividers shows up when you run quads....Well Why didn't you say say so..
Yeah I hear that. Here are some pics of my P5E results when trying to run different dividers with a Q6600
Yeah it's really a tough one for this board....OUCH
Here is when I tried 5:6
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../5by606hot.jpg
Oh well that seemed to work
OK then how about 4:5
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../4by506hot.jpg
Well dang that one worked too??
OK OK here we go
3:4 will stop it
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../3by406hot.jpg
Uh wait it worked fine??
Well not to worry the 2:3 will smash this board and the memory to pieces!!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../2by306hot.jpg
Uh Oh hey it ran that divider just fine too...Hmmm does this possibly mean that these boards are ok
and maybe it's a user problem???
Food for thought.
Look turn it into a rampage and go bag on this board in the change your bios thread.
WZ
This board is ok with Ex000 and Q6xxx series, but is a big NO for Q9x50 series.
I cannot pass 435x8 (1:1) on Q9450, I can POST 450x8, but doesn't load Windows at all, the max it did was getting to login screen and then hangs.
For Q9x50 series, this board is a nightmare for any OC around.
Using Deluxe 0205 BIOS.
Fernando
Rampage bios are more stable for me than Deluxe at the same OC and voltage.Quote:
Originally Posted by freyesm
@ WeldZilla dude, we get it, your board and GSkill HZ r0x0rz!!!11111 yey for you, but we aren't all running the HZ RAM. And I'm not bashing the board either, just saying that my setup works better with Rampage bios than the P5E bios, and the best I can get with P5E+Rampage Bios+GSkill PQ 2X2GB is 4:5.
Can you post the config please ?Quote:
Originally Posted by lowtcell
Mine's:
Could be rather extreme (my config), but was the only one stable at 435x8.Code:Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
CPU Ratio Setting : 8.0
FSB Frequency : 435
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333MHz
PCIE Frequency : 110
DRAM Frequency : DDR2-871MHz
DRAM Command Rate : 2N
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5 DRAM Clocks
RAS# to CAS# Delay: 4 DRAM Clocks
RAS# Precharge : 4 DRAM Clocks
RAS# Active Time : 12 DRAM Clocks
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Auto
Ai Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Level: 10
Pull-In of CH : All Disabled
VCORE Voltage : 1.32500
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.36
DRAM Voltage : 1.98
North Bridge Voltage : 1.55
South Bridge Voltage : 1.100
Loadline Calibration: Enabled
CPU GTL Voltage Ref.: Auto
NB GTL Voltage Ref. : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.60V
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
I know on Gigabyte MB (with X48 chipset), is easy to get Q9450 @ 450x8.
Btw, I'm using Mushkin HP2-6400 4GB (996587).
Fernando
Can changing your FSB Termination Voltage effect your vDrop? I had my vcore set at 1.3650v and which the FSB Termination Voltage set on auto my vcore in Windows was ~3.1v @ idle which wasn't fully stable. Then I set the FSB Termination Voltage to 1.28v and my vcore under load was only 1.264v, while running Prime 95. It was running fine, then i took a screen shot and tried to open paint and it cashed. BTW my CPU is a Q6600 at 3.6GHz.
So my question is does changing your FSB Termination Voltage effect your vcore?
anyone try the rampage 410 bios for the p5e yet?
I'll try it, but damn Asus, just when they released 0408 few days ago I was going to re-flash to 0408 today, now I need to re-doing all again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler88
Gradius
Works fine, but it didn't changed my OC one bit (capped @ 435x8).
Edit: Using P5E 0903 now, seems stable enough. Going to stay with it.
Gradius
P5E w/ Vista 64, two SATA hard drives in AHCI mode, built in January. Ongoing problem with spontaneous reboots, about once per week. Found that it coincided with the weekly defrag schedule, and that I could force the BSOD by running a defrag manually... but only with both drives selected for the defrag. If I selected only one or the other, it would run. Disabled the scheduled defrag, but still experiencing random reboots... anywhere from 1-2 weeks in between each.
I can run P95 or Memtest for days without errors. I can play UT3 for hours without a problem. So, my conclusion was bad mobo drive controller, bad hard drive, or Intel matrix storage driver is flaky under Vista64.
Then one day I came home and the computer had rebooted, and was sitting there in the pre-OS environment complaining about no OS found. Went into BIOS and found that it had made my storage drive the primary drive. Switched it back and rebooted. When it got to detecting AHCI port on the OS drive, it froze. Rebooted, and it worked OK this time. I've since noted that occassionally during the AHCI port detection phase it will go very slowly, whereas it usually just flies through so fast you don't have time to read it.
Over the weekend I was applying Windows updates and got a BSOD. Couldn't get back to Windows... it would BSOD each time Windows started to load. Decided to roll back to my last backup, but it couldn't even load Windows off the DVD to get to the repair/restore screen... BSOD. Didn't know what to do, so I went into the BIOS to check settings. Everything looked fine. Just for kicks, and not being able to think of anything else to try, I reloaded my saved settings profile even though settings were already correct. Then it was able to boot into Windows off the OS drive, and then I went ahead and did the restore anyway, which it did fine. Reapplied Windows updates fine, and made another backup point. Fired up P95 on blend, and it's been going 12 hours.
At this point I could try updating the BIOS (still using initial version) and updating the Intel Matrix Storage Manager driver. But I'm wondering if that's just a waste of time. The pre-OS pausing and freezing during AHCI port detection couldn't be a result of the driver. Losing track of my OS drive in the BIOS and making the storage drive primary wasn't the driver's fault. Not being able to load Windows off the DVD wasn't a result of the driver. Looking at the release notes for each of the new BIOS releases, they appear to only be updates for new CPUs. And even if my BIOS was causing the BSOD under Windows, it shouldn't be losing track of the OS drive, or freezing during AHCI port detection, or preventing an OS from being installed off the DVD without reloading settings. There just seems to be something flaky with the mobo.
So... if you were in my shoes, you would spend any more time on it, or just avail yourself of the 3-year warranty? Does anyone think there could be something else going wrong that I'm missing?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Actually, what I'd be looking at is dying hard drives first. Use something like mHDD to do a scan of each of the drives to check for bad sectors, and see what that turns up.
Eller
Picked up this board and some other parts last week. Got it all up and running as follows.
Vista64
P5E Bios 902 (came with 702)
E8400 E0
2 WD raptor 150's(from my last build)
Gskill 2x2 4gb 8500
Unit is water-cooled in the new Cool Master Half case. It turned out really nice lots of room to work in.
Having some problems with the CPU temp. I have removed it 2 times now with no change.
I have read this is a normal problem with the E8400s I had hoped it was fixed on the E0 units.
Also I have tried a few temp programs Speedfan, Coretemp, real temp all of them sit at 35C or 40C and never moved.
So I let it run prime95 10 hours and it never moved. Ran OCCT and it never moved.
Is it the Board or the CPU? Anything I can try? How about the RF0407 bios?
Also when I first got the board and got it up and running the Bios(702) kept telling me the CPU was unknown and showed 100C pretty much a garbage reading Flashed to RF0403 and it said the same thing. Flashed to 0903 and it went down to 35 or 40 and stuck there I haven’t been back into see if its moved at all in the bios as I was busy just finishing the installs.
Thanks for any help or ideas kind of a bummer of a rebuild. Been doing this stuff for 11+ years haven’t seen this kind of problem before
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vector
Ok some good news
First off this board rocks and was very easy to overclock
Ok some good news.
Water cooling must just work to well stock speeds OCCT / Primes and never moves over 40c
I got it stable at 4250 with 500 FSB 1:1 and 8.5 multi. didnt try for anything more
Max temp was 49-50C Full load both cores Room temp is 68-70F
Going to do more testing to lower volts right now its 1.31
So far i am very very happy its insane how fast it flys into Vista64 over my old Opertron165@2.6ghz
anyone been able to make a external CMOS reset switch for the asus p5e???
Mayby this interest you, but don´t know how it goes:
http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?t=338868
Hi noo need of worring mate. Just disable OPT sensors 1 2 3 in bios. More fans is one of few differences between P5E and Maximus (or Rampage).Quote:
Originally Posted by Brick_top
Me. Works fine. system is stable. But i try to resolve some issues with my memory moduls (corsair XMS2 DHX cl4) Sometimes there is one error in memtest. Strange thing is that today they are tested again in other pc in job and 7 hours and ok, no errors at all. Yesterday they spitted out error. Damn strange. But memtest (using memtest+ 86x 2,01) should be turned on at least 12 hours. I would try rather 24 (same as the pc is in action 24 hours, isnt it truth). It fails in the test 6 sometimes. Like 5 passes, then fail and so. Those are2x2 GB, so i guess i ll send them to RMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wrangler88
But yeah RF 0410 works ok for me too. Just disable non-existent sensors and here we go.
Need some help guy's.
I have now at home X48 P5E DeLuxe DDR2 board,and yes there is a sticker with "P5E DeLuxe" on,so i take it off and it say's "RAMPAGE":yepp:.
So i think i can use that Rampage bios,butt to flash,is it ok to use alt-f2 method,or some other bios flash prog.
Allso can somebody guide me to some X48 bios screens and timmings,i try'd the search but no luck on finding it,only this one.
A still use a E6600(look at sig),stock X48 bios is not so good for me,it go's up and down,thats not that good i think.
Rocker
The link below has all the information you need to do the conversion, just scroll down to the P5E section, also has some quad and dual core setups.
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...d.php?t=179580
Wish you well
Aleslammer
Hi,
Does anyone know what the max northbridge voltage i should run on my P5E, without additional cooling on the NB? The BIOS tells me 1.75v! But it seems a lot.
Also, is there a way to find out what the actual north bridge voltage is at? (not what it says it is in the bios?) I'm intrigued as if I run the following, it's slightly unstable under heavy load on 1.55v, but seemingly stable when I switch the NB voltage to Auto...
FSB 506Mhz
Multiplier 7.5
C2D 2.5Ghz@3.8Ghz (this has been proved at lower fsb to be completely stable - 447x8.5)
Cheers.
Thanks mate:up:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleslammer
Can some help with measuting VTT voltage? I'm with P5E-Deluxe@Rampage Formula and i can see the voltage in Hardware Monitor, but with 1.4VTT set in BIOS, Hardware Monitor in BIOS and Everest in OS said, that VTT is 1.34 - 0.8 difference. So where can i measure the truth value, or i should trust the board?
Hi XtremeSystems Community :) I've got a few questions. Would you please answer'em?
1. My mobo is P5E modded to Rampage Formula 0601. For example on P5E max VCC was 1.7V with quite big vdrop. On Rampage BIOS I can shot 2.0V (even 2.4V). With Loadline Calibration enabled the voltage drop for ex. on Celly D347 @ 1.5V under full load is minimal and very impressive (1.49V). But how this mobo works with 2.0V mounted on BIOS? What is the vdroop?
2. Did anyone attempt to measure what is the max power that this mobo can serve for the CPU on Rampage BIOS?
3. I've found the theoritical power consumption equation for CPU: P = TPD * (VccU/Vcc)^2 * (FreqU/Freq) where:
VccU - voltage CPU user set
Vcc - Intel max VCC
FreqU - freq. user set
Freq - Intel std. clk.
I know how to measure the real power consumption but I need some theoretical computation to estimate it. What is wrong with formula above? On Celly Cedar Mill @ 8GHz and 2.0V the max power is 427W! Sic!
Thank you for any help.
PS: sorry for bad english :)
Regards,
Podstavsky.
Are there any ports on the P5E to plug in a 2-pin temperature sensor? Thanks.
Nope, no temp probe connections.....
Damn. Well so much for the idea of using a BP temp probe in my loop. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by screwtech02
The only way is to get a fan controller with temp sensors...Quote:
Originally Posted by D749
wow.. switching to RF bios really made my day..
couldnt OC anything with 8gb /w p5e bios.. now OC even lower voltage..
less vdroop..
my NB/SB temps seems off very much..
is there any fix for that?
or
any software i can use to check real temp?
New bios out,
[ 1102 ]
----------------------
Fixed use 2 pieces of ATI4870X2 VGA Card can't display from Primary slot display monitor
Only changelog I found.
Any idea whats going on when my system turns off for 10-15min after changing any important CPU clocking value, which is usually followed by hard restart (system turns off for 1-2sec and start again). Only solution is to unplug power cable and wait, tried to reset cmos, remove all cards/cables but basic ones.
Have quite typical setup P5E with latest bios 1102 (but had problem even with previous release, flashed to try if new version helps or not). CPU is Intel Q9300 clocked to 3.4GHz, but same behaviour is with default clock. 4GB RAM and GF260GTX (tried Radeon 4870 too).
Still my system turns off after cold restart and I'm not able to start it for 10+ min. It just doesnt react to power button, only thing is that fans move a tiny bit after pressing it.
I changed even my PSU, from 600W BeQuiet to 1200W Odin - no change.
I gave the new 1102 bios a shot and it seems to be quite good.
I have achieved my highest clocks ever. As well as my highest Bench scores.
Here is my latest pi run last night.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...GTX/pizoom.jpg
It's all good here.
Wikus list all your bios settings including all voltages aswell as memtimings.
Post shots of your bios screens if you can.
WZ
Its easy, problem is even with default setting and everything on auto :)
Ill try new bios...
WeldZilla
Been trying to match the speeds from some of your earlier posts and you come up with this latest post, looks like 1102 will be on my board this weekend.
My Best 1m Pi
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o...mer/Pi9844.jpg
BIOS RF0410, best FSB 533, Clock 4740 +/-
Damn that ram clocks, I get over 1250 +\- and windows boots with 2d drivers only.
NICE RUN !! Aleslammer.... It is great to see you getting so much out of your baord. That is a great looking Everest you posted also!
Keep it up cuz there may just be a little more in there for you!!
Thanks for posting that up.
WZ
I had a major oopsie today. Was screwing around in the case today and accidentally grounded a 12v fan wire to the case (pinched it with a screw). There was a loud bang and plastic shrapnel showered my floor, but the P5E took it like a champ. I lost the power in the top fan connector, but everything else is still working. +1 for Asus, and -1 for me.
Hey Weld, gonna put the P5E back in my rig, got 2 4850x2's coming. Currently have the board flashed with Rampage bios, think its 30-somthing. Is there a better bios to use with a Q6600+8gb?? Just tryin to get my hardware in order before the rebuild.....:cool:
I have a question - since what voltage X48 starts to degradate? I have P5E X48 and since i like the board and i don't want to change it, but it need insane voltages for more than 450 (for 465 it's 1.65 vNB nesecarry). I'm planning to put it underwater, but ir's ~1.7 vNB healty for 24/7?
Why can't I OC my E8500 (E0!) on my P5E? Now I'm using it on 4,2Ghz with 1,328V (Cpuz 1.48). Orthos runs 3+ hours with this voltage, but became unstable on less. About 1,38V is necessary for 450FSB...which would burn the CPU (83+°C!).
What am I do wrong? Please upload a perfect bios setting for BIOS 0903.
My 2GB ST T800 works till 950Mhz, it ran 900@450FSB with my e6750 on this mobo
:(
Thx, I'll give it a whirl.Quote:
Originally Posted by v4npro
for the guys with P5E3 DELUXE boards
if you want to unlock some power from your board you can flash it to Premium bios BUT you have to do a vcore mod and bump the vcore with the VR to be able to post as the vcore is set a low lower than stock due to OVP jumper on premium board
i had trouble booting even at 500MHz sometimes with DLX bios but when i flashed to Premium bios 0605 i am now booting into windows at 620MHz FSB with 266 strap no less :eek:
wish i could get someone to figure out how to make an ovp jumper on this board now as its a killer OCer lol
Sorry for bumping, but i really need to know this ...Quote:
Originally Posted by spoof
Does anyone know if the "quick boot" function in the boot menu is really needed?
hmm im haveing probs at min got the lastes p5e bios and with 4 sticks of ram i cant boot at anything over 400 fsb no idea why tried everthing but just no boot over 400 any ideas
quick question lads! how much FSB should i expect to reach on strap266 with my P5E? many thanks
This are my voltages as following: BIOS value/Hadware Monitoring in BIOS and Win/Multimeter - 1.48***v/1.42v/1.4v. This is without LLC, i have no drop at all, multimeter "says" that in BIOS, idle and load all measurments shows pretty close voltages.(P5E Delux X48@Rampage Formula)
So, is this huge difference normal between what i set and actuall value? So far, haven't see that difference on 3 MB, that i measured.
Vodka3dg
When I was running a Q6700 I was topping out around 460. That was with P5E0903 and RF0403 on the quad, did pick up a little (5-7)with RF0410 over the first mentioned on my dualie as I remember.
Have you tried with newer RF bios on your P5E? I'm with 0410 too, but i'm thinking of flashing it with the newest before changing the board, because i have HUGE trouble getting it to work on 470.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aleslammer
spoof, no, 0410 has worked for me and have not had time to test the newer ones.
Sorry to join in but, on my P5E I could never get above 470FSB to work. I'm assuming ur talking about FSB here?
Correct. 450FSB is my stable max with sane voltages. 470 is dream with 1.67v on the vNB and 1.47vBIOS(real around 1.45) vcore. It just keep on locking up, although it's prime stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by fatguy1992
thank you Aleslammer, i'll give it a shot one of this days when it gets a little more chilly..
now, about P5E bios 1102... how does it stand compared to RF bios 410?
thks :D
@spoof: lock ups with a prime-stable machine seem to be caused by low VTT and/or PLL, have you tried that out yet? seemed to work for a friend of mine. i personally never had to deal with that kind of issue thought.
I had now raid0 and i have vista in there. If flash rampage bios does that raid still work fine?(now i have p5e own bios)
Yep, will work fine with RAID0. However, my Vista required a re-activation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarpeli
Is there big difference between P5E bios 1102 and rampage bios? I have heard that 1102 bios takes fsb very well.
RF bios allows for more tweaking options and my vcore is slightly lower over P5E bios. I had no improvement in max FSB with a quad core.
Hey death you should have no problems with 4 sticks of memory in your board with any bios!! One thing you and everyone should do is leave the "STRAP" on "AUTO
Then set the divider and timings manually. I am running 4 sticks of G.Skill 6400HZ on my board and using only 2.08v to get them to 600mhz with tight timings.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...0GTX/daily.jpg
Remember leave the Strap setting on auto and give it a try. It should help you out. This is so easy on this board that this is my 24/7 clock.
I ran the same speed daily for over a year with my e 8400 but I wanted to play with the 8600. Takes less volts to get to and run at 4500 now.
The e8400 is fine it is in my 13 year-old son's machine. For him it was a nice step up from a e6600.
WZ
WeldZilla, did you see any FSB or core speed improvemnts using the E8600. That 10 multi would open up a few more memory options, so do you think it is worth it or is playing just to much fun.
You know the E8600 I got is not as good as some. It will barely do 500 x 10.
However. it does run 24/7 at 4500 like it is just nothing. I don't have to run my extreme
cooling to keep it cool. So in many regards it is a very nice processor. It allowed me to break 30,090
with my single 260GTX on 3D05!! and 90,715 on 3Do1 SE and 293,000 in Aquamark so all in all I am pretty happy with it.
I am seriously thinking of selling it and go with a quad. I am just spoiled by running at 4500 daily.
WZ
Your mentioned scores trash my 280's best, nice going. I came from a quad but like you I like that high core speed, been thinking about going back. BIOS RF0802 has been putting up some 520 plus FSB posts so I might give it try with a Q9650 down the road.
Ale
Yeah Aleslammer the way the 9650 is falling in price it is very tempting. You know for whatever reason the this combination of parts
really generates some amazing 3D scores.
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=4731889
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...60GTX/3d05.jpg
When I broke the 30K with my single 260GTX I was freakin ecstatic!!
WZ
NICE RUN! beats my best core speed by 310 in 05. See you are using a 4 inch fan on your case, here's my cooling setup, wish I was still in ID, CA just doesn't get cold enough. Looks like I should bite the bullet and invest in a good water system also.
Widow to the Fan
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Cooler008.jpg
Fan to the Box
http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/o.../Cooler007.jpg
05, GX2, E8500 @ 4.55
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=4727892
05, GTX 280, E8500 @ 4.52
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=4662698
Been trying for 4.6 but have not had a night in the 30s for the last couple of weekends.
Ale
I love your set up!! My kinda inginuity!!!
I have 2 of the Dayton 4 inch Squirrel cage fans and Dryer hose.
One fan cools my main rig by channeling the cold air from the outside ( I love Winter)
through my radiator and on into the case where I direct the air right into my mem and Northbridge with a 120mm fan
I keep an eye onthings with a temp gun!
The other 4 in hose runs into the side of my air-cooled rig. I shoots directly over the CPU cooler It keeps my NB and memory very cold!!
In the pic you will only see one fan but, there are now 2 and they have a lean-to house over them with sides to keep rain, snow, leaves
what have you from getting sucked up!! and blown into my systems. My air cooled rig runs virtually as cool as my liquid cooled system!
Then in summer I Pull out the transition piece I run my hoses through and put an air-condition unit in the wall which keeps both machines
cool as well as the computer room. My wife and son have their machines in here too So we need the AC!!
Here are some shots.
My air-cooled only rig P5Q-Pro, E8400, G.Skill 6400HZ, Vid card, 3870
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...X/IMG_3470.jpg
Now WeldZilla 3
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...X/IMG_3475.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../IMG_1893a.jpg
My Current master piece
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2.../IMG_2974a.jpg
Here is how I track other external temps.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...X/IMG_3476.jpg
Shot of the heat spreader on my G.Skill 6400HZ
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...X/IMG_3477.jpg
that translates to 12.4C so my mem is very very cool
Now my Northbridge. As many out there know sometimes these get so hot you can only touch the heatsink for a few seconds!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...X/IMG_3481.jpg
Now I took the side cover off for these pics. With the cover on the NB runs at 55.4F
You know this power cooling works great on straight air cooling too. If you direct the air to where is needed
This cold air in my case year round is why I can bench my 260GTX 802 GPU and 1279 on the mem. You see my card idles at around 28C
And just won't go hight than 41C doing anything. Well check that after 30 minutes of furmark I hit 61C again that was at 802/1604/1269 0n the clocks
I am designing a new case now as WeldZilla 3, "Stealth By Design" is getting a little long in the tooth.
Don't you just love this stuff!!
WZ
hi WeldZilla, how many volts are you throwing at that x38 northbridge to get those temps? btw, nice set up :D
thks!
Nice setup, what's the CFM on your 4" fans, I didn't think about sticking the fan out side and ended up with the fan I've got to keep down the noise and lost some CFM, if I'd placed it outside I could of cut down on the window opening and not worried so much about the noise. Thanks for some ideas.
I'm just starting my second variation, just picked up a 8" inline rated at 500 CFM at Home Depot, that an a old InWin case with a removable MB tray, a Saws-all to salvage the drive bays and a bunch of hours in the garage with a few Mountain Mod images, hopefully will have my next case.
Ale
Hey Vodka those temps stay that cool all the way to 1.7+ on the NorthBridge volts. My NB feels cold to the touch!!
Hey Ale those fans put out right at 265 CFM's and that has always been enough. The fans are very quiet, you do get the sound of just moving air.
Hey this is what this is about here, help each other out with an exchange of ideas... those are dayton fans they run around $60 The dryer hose was a
few bucks and I also run them off a light switch on my desk. That was a couple bucks. Unless I am really working my system just the cases exhaust fans pull
enough cool air throught the system that I don't nee to run the big fan all the time especially when it is real cold out.
Right now I have my system on to type to you and play some music in the background while I am working on an older HP with a P4 1.5 Willamette core.
It has a bad vid card in it. I have an old Nvidia TNT card here I just stuffed in for the guy for free. Hey I work with him... So what you gonna do...
Anyway I am running at 4650mhz now at 1.5V without the Squirrel cage on and I an sitting at 31C so it's all good....
WZ
OK well I am full of it!! The fan is the Dayton 4C447 and it more like $85 to $100 nowadays!! Sorry about the misquote on price
Here is the fan. Perhaps a guy could find them on ebay or even a garage sale for a lot less.
http://www.keenzo.com/showproduct.as...3698317&ref=GB
Or online for that matter
Here are my temps at 4.1 with the inline fan on, outside temp 42F +\-. Never that cold here but the setup sure helps. Will have to check out the Daytons. the 8 inch fan I got only does 200 CFM on still air, the 500 was a boost number for moving air, have to start reading the fine print.
Kinda have the same thing going, have a nephew coming over to help him assebly his first box, always loose my extra and backup parts that way.
Ale
Looking good from here Ale! It is a lot of fun planning and scheming on cooler temps and higher speeds!!
for the last couple days I have been running at 4750 for my 24/7 clock!! This thing just purrs....
WZ
WeldZilla,
Great to see you're still active here!
I have a question for you and I can't find the answer anywhere.
I have a P5E with FSB Termination Voltage (VTT) set to AUTO in the bios.
The new version of Everest shows a FSB VTT of 1.38v.
I've noticed that if I overclock to only 3.6ghz, Everest shows 1.33v even though VTT is still set to Auto in the bios.
Is Everest accurate? Is this bios dynamically changing VTT?
If anyone else has some ideas, please feel free!
Thanks!
Hey Intrepid, Good to see you around too! Look when it comes to fsb term.V. What you are seeing is quite common. Advertised as 1.38 in bios but in actuality about 1.32 to .34.
Myself one of the first things I do with all my boards is just start out at 1.5 on the fsb termination voltage. I don't fiddle around trying to find tune it.
When I am clocking my cpu to it's limits I will go as high as 1.72 in the bios with this voltage and ditto the North Bridge!
Since Friday afternoon I have been running 24/7 at 4750mhz with this 8600, I set the FSB TERM V. @ to 1.5.
Again that is my normal setting.
I see you are running your G.Skill at 1:1. Why? You will gain more overall speed if run it on the 5:6 even at 5-5-5-5 0r 5-5-5-6
at about 2.0 to 2.08 on the volts. Do a run of aquamark on 1:1 then do it again one the divider. you will see a large gain in cpu score on the divider.
WZ
Thanks WeldZilla!
I'm trying 1.30v VTT in the bios which reads 1.22v in Everest. It's stable so I think that should be sufficient for 445x9, don't you.
I've decided to stick to 1:1 for the time being. I may try an E8600 if the price comes down. I like the lower latency timings of 4-4-4-12. Besides, I'm getting some new G.Skill F2-6400CL4D-4GBPI-B ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231209 ) and we'll see if I get those higher with 4 timings.
I'm quite happy with the performance I getting. My next rig will be a X58 Core i7 system with DDR-3 when I will likely move from XP to Windows 7 - I might wait until Service Pack 1. :)
By then, maybe the 32nm Gulftown processors will be out!
By the way, I changed to a 333 strap and memory benchmarks went up and latency went down. I read about this at: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=3208&p=6
Weld
Thanks, you gave me something to shoot far all the time I was benching. I'm going to start doing a little gaming, pulled the GX2, replaced it with a 280 and put my cooling system in the garage. See ya on my next build.
One last post, core speed 4904 at 1.576v not bad for a E8500 on 8C +\- air
http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=508419
3dMark 01
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=9463781
3dMark 03
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k3=6025223
3dMark 05
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=4748207
3dMark 06
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=9487391
Have Fun
Ale
Damn AleSlammer!! You have unleashed the beast!!!! Those are some great clocks!
Somebody hold this guy back! Hey really you are getting more of the potential out of that machine now.
Feels good to break through some really nice 3D runs.
WZ
thks for the reply wz :D helped a lot! im not sure why mines so hot... you could fry some eggs and bacon on it, the english breakfast way :P
im just on the 1.51 to be safe... i'm playing with my memory right now, and look what this G.Skill set can do... amazing!
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/7...imingsstab.png
this RF410 bios is some real awesome stuff.. thks guys!Code:Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : Auto
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
FSB Frequency : 458
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
PCI-E Frequency: 105
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-1100
DRAM Command Rate : 2T
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : Auto
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 50
Write Recovery Time : Auto
Read to Precharge Time : Auto
Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 9
Write to Read Delay (S) : 4
Write to Read Delay (D) : 6
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 5
Write to Write Delay (D) : 7
Write to Pre Delay: 14
Read to Pre Delay: 5
Pre to Pre Delay: 1
All Pre to Act Delay 6
All Pre to Ref Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual
Common Performance Lvl: 7
Pull-In of CHA PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4: Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4: Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5: Disabled
CPU Voltage : 1.375000
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.5
North Bridge Voltage : 1.51
DRAM Voltage : 2.0
FSB Termination Voltage : 1.36
South Bridge Voltage : 1.10
Loadline Calibration : Disabled
CPU GTL Reference : 0.67
North Bridge GTL Reference : 0.67
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : Auto
DDR2 Controller REF Voltage : Auto
SB 1.5V Voltage : 1.55
CPU Spread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled
Advanced CPU Configuration
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 7
C1E Suppport : Disabled
CPU TM Function : Disabled
Vanderpool Technology : Disabled
Execute Disable Bit : Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit : Disabled
It's nice to see you guys geting more and more from your systems.
For those of you who are running the 1102 bios I have noticed that it has relaxed the memory quite a bit.
So to get a bit more from your system try to tighten up your timings a bit and see.
I can run my timings at 645mhz for DDR1290 @ 5-5-5-5. I found that I canm also set the AI clock twister to Strong.
That is all with only 2.1V to the mem. So play around with it and see what you can do.
I found I could run my 2 X 2gb G.Skill PQ easily at it's rated speed on 1T. That is a first.
Keep tweeking........
WZ
wow nice find! 1N command rate for DDR2 at that density is really something :) i tried that same thing a month ago: would post but freeze in memtest86+... on other thoughts, perhaps if i would have set propper timings i would have managed some results... anyway, those speeds you're getting out of those pq modules are really encouraging :D this weekend i wont be touching the rig.. but on monday. so i'll post results on tuesday ftw :-] see yah!
P5E 1201 Bios Released.
P5E 1201 Bios
Fixed use 2 pieces of ATI4870X2 VGA Card can't display from Primary slot display monitor
File: P5E-ASUS-1201.zip
Ftp Directory: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/socket775/P5E/
Ftp Download: ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/so...-ASUS-1201.zip
bios 1201?? Well here we go again...... Thanks Intrepid I will check it out over the next few days... And let you know what I think...
You can do the same...
WZ
We'll compare notes. Let me know what you find.
:mad:
I guys...
I have had problems to boot my computer with the 8500.
I´he tried all the bios, and passed some time it doesn´t boot.
In memtest they don´t give any error...
Do you now why?
Help please:(
When you say it won't boot?? Do you mean the fans spin but all stays black? Will it go into bios? Does windows try to start only to restart? Does windows try to start
only to go to a blue screen? In what way won't it boot? Is you 8500 a CO or an EO or ES? Which revision??
WZ
The fans spin, only...nothing moreQuote:
Originally Posted by WeldZilla
Hi guys
I am having a problem whereby on a cold boot when I use a manual multiplier I get the following error
http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/7...oserrorte6.jpg
I have a P5E3 standard with BIOS 1301 and a QX9650 (Quadcore Extreme Edition version). I passed this information onto ASUS but they informed me:
My QX9650 is a C0 stepping with sSPec Code = SLAN3Quote:
the CPU ratio is a setting to set the CPU multiplier, and generally speaking, that setting of CPU is locked except ES version CPU and Q6850(I remember), so we don`t suggest you to set it and keep it as default.
Is the CPU ratio locked?
I can boot with multiplier of 10, just not with a cold boot (I have to either press the reset button or Ctrl+Alt+Del) whenver I get that error message on post.
My understanding is that the ratio is fully unlocked (6-23) but ASUS inform me that I am misunderstood.
Does anyone else here have a QX9650 on a P5E3 standard?
Are you getting the same error message on cold boot?
Thanks and Kind Regards
John
I got that message with all the biosses , now i am on the rampage bios and still got that error when i set multi other then default .
What i did is turn off "halt on error" in the bios , so the computer boots further ( no need anymore to press F1 or F2 )
I think its the combo P5E and QX9650 ( i have not the p5e3 )
Thanks for the workaround CranoxQuote:
Originally Posted by Cranox
Does your system work as intended from a cold boot with a manual/fixed multiplier?
Sadly ASUS tech support are currently of the opinion that our processors (or at least the stepping I have of the QX9650 has a LOCKED multiplier of 9)....:confused: I thought Extreme Editions had unlocked multi?
Default multi ( auto ) = cold boot ok
Manual set it @ 9 = cold boot error
Manual set lower/higher = cold boot error
If u got a QX u have no locked multi ,thats why they are so expensive ( i can set it at 14 with no problem )
Yeah that is exactly what I thought the case was CranoxQuote:
Originally Posted by Cranox
I did quite a bit of "research" before building this PC back in November 2007 and the reason why I elected to go for the QX was 1) because it was 45nm Quad and 2) Because it had a unlocked multiplier.
ASUS are of the opinion that only ES processors and the Q6850 have unlocked multipliers, I have tried to inform them that the QX9650 also has an unlocked multiplier but I guess it would take a fair few people having the same problem as me to mail them before they investigate "our claims"?
Ah well... thanks for the workaround :)
This is the latest stance from ASUS with regards to the QX9650 having an unlocked multiplier.
I was of the opinion that all QX9650 processors had an unlocked multiplier, and it was the Q9650 which has a locked ratio of 9.. is this correct?Quote:
Ok, sir, I have googled it and found that there is unlocked version for this QX9650,