ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

I use Asus for all builds for customers and you get zero issues with normal mid range Mobos. its the £200-300 POS's that are buggy and have dire support.


I do not have link for this (but it was said to be from Xbit website).


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"No before you start to stress -- it simply means that motherboard manufacturing would become outsourced rather then self (in-house) made. Anyway, xbitlabs is reporting that Asustek decided to completely spin off its mainboards and graphics cards manufacturing arm Pegatron Technologies, the company said this week.

The move will allow Asus to become more competitive in terms of branding, but will further withdraw the firm from the actual manufacturing. According to a statement posted with Taiwan Stock Exchange, Asustek company had convened a board meeting to resolve the spin-off of its ODM business. As a result of the meeting, Pegatron Holding, the company that made virtually all Asus-branded motherboards, will issue two billion new shares to a number of shareholders.

Asustek Computer and all shareholders of the company as consideration, among which it is expected that the company will receive 25% of the equity and all shareholders of the company will in total receive 75% of the equity in Pegatron Holding in proportion to their shareholdings in the company.

As a result of the move, Asus-branded mainboard are likely to be targeted not only on the highest possible quality market, but also onto performance mainstream segment. The question is what can a premium brand offer in the value segment ? "



But today there is more accurate info :


QUOTED :


" Asustek splits Pegatron from the rest
Written by Andreas G 14 December 2009 21:40



Electronics giants Asustek (better known for its brand ASUS) has decided to restructure the company similar to what AMD did a while back. It had decided to sell its wholly owned subsidiary Pegatron Technology that manufactures Asustek's and other companies' products.

Why is it Asustek wants to separate manufacturing and development? In Asustek's case it is simply because to avoid competing with itself. ASUS started as a motherboard manufacturer and it is still making a lot of motherboards per contract with many great PC builders; HP, Dell and others.

Now that Asustek has expanded its business to making its own computers, it all started with the very successful Eee series, the orders from other companies have reduced. They have been worried that ASUS would get advantages and in the long run would give them insight into how other companies was planning to act.

At the same time it wants to avoid supporting direct competitors by buying from them. Now that it separates the manufacturing from the rest, where Asustek will only own 25%, it hopes to remove all doubt that an order made to Pegatron Technology till be the same as with any other manufacturing company, for instance competitor Foxconn.

The change will not affect the brand ASUS, but it should result in an even brighter future for Asustek. "



http://www.nordichardware.com/news,10413.html

As you can probably guess, I got my UD3P and it's quite simply the board to take overclocking quads to the next level with. After many wasted months farting around with the MIIF I've finally got the UD3P in there, and got the system stable at 500x9, and with less volts than I expected and in about 1000th of the time. I no longer have to deal with the mind f******g inconsistencies of the MIIF anymore, and move over to new pastures. It's a big shame this board didn't fare as well because I like the look and features. I would probably have settled with 500x9 if it were possible, but I firmly believe that ~490fsb was the limit with this board and a quad.

I would like to thank everyone for taking their time to help out with the MIIF though, I have learnt so much whilst posting here. But it's probably safe to say that I'll sell my board and give this thread a fond farewell.

Unfortunately a not-so fond farewell to Asus is due as I fell we've all been really short-changed with this board. One prime example is the memory pull-ins which are still not working along with their lame responses to requests to fix such things - very poor show.

Rant over :)

Ciao peeps :peace:

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Originally Posted by In-Fluence

As you can probably guess, I got my UD3P and it's quite simply the board to take overclocking quads to the next level with. After many wasted months farting around with the MIIF I've finally got the UD3P in there, and got the system stable at 500x9, and with less volts than I expected and in about 1000th of the time. I no longer have to deal with the mind f******g inconsistencies of the MIIF anymore, and move over to new pastures. It's a big shame this board didn't fare as well because I like the look and features. I would probably have settled with 500x9 if it were possible, but I firmly believe that ~490fsb was the limit with this board and a quad.

I would like to thank everyone for taking their time to help out with the MIIF though, I have learnt so much whilst posting here. But it's probably safe to say that I'll sell my board and give this thread a fond farewell.

Unfortunately a not-so fond farewell to Asus is due as I fell we've all been really short-changed with this board. One prime example is the memory pull-ins which are still not working along with their lame responses to requests to fix such things - very poor show.

Rant over :)

Ciao peeps :peace:

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Sounds good. Good to hear you're having fun with your new board! :up: I might move away from this POS in a little while too. To be honest, I too, am getting fed up with these inconsistencies and crappy clocking. By the way, have you tried finding your max benchable FSB on your new board yet? With the x6 multiplier? I'm eager to see some results ;)

I managed 525fsb without really trying hard at all. x6 or x9 multi made no difference, which also meant I whooped my 10.062 1M pi time by about half a second. I almost booted at 540 and got just past login before it hung - once again, this was without really trying at all. I'm almost certain I could be looking at a benchable 550FSB+ with this CPU and board. I might have a good stab at it with the reapers tonight :)

http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...10secs1MPI.jpg

i have my multiplier set in bios ... and even on my OC at 4GHz it idles down to .ike 2.5GHz when my computer is doing nothing ... what was the setting to make sure that does not happen?

CE1=Disable.

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CE1=Disable.

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sweet thanks!:up:

so is it better to push the fsb or the multi? after loads of reading i thoght it was better to push the multi rather than the fsb if you can.

am just wondering will this guide still work if im using a higher multi and a lower fsb as opposed to the opposite like he has?

ive read the guide up and down and i just want to know.....

ive been trying to sort out my MF2 and QX6700 for like 3-4 weeks now and its soooo annoying!!!! im SO happy the amazing people at this forum showed me this and i am just amazed with the guy that wrote it!!!! hes going to heaven for helping so many of us!!! lol

Well with a quad, it could hard to get a high bus speed. My q6700 will run 333 fsb with little voltage but anything over 370 fsb is pushing it. I go further with my x48 blackops than the M2F board. I went from bios 1901 to 2202 and everything has changed, I can not get to 533-540 fsb. Best of luck.

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Originally Posted by thedan55

so is it better to push the fsb or the multi? after loads of reading i thoght it was better to push the multi rather than the fsb if you can.

am just wondering will this guide still work if im using a higher multi and a lower fsb as opposed to the opposite like he has?

ive read the guide up and down and i just want to know.....

ive been trying to sort out my MF2 and QX6700 for like 3-4 weeks now and its soooo annoying!!!! im SO happy the amazing people at this forum showed me this and i am just amazed with the guy that wrote it!!!! hes going to heaven for helping so many of us!!! lol

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hows the 2022 bios?
i have a qx9650 and i have been trying to OC it ...
i cant seem to get stable at 4GHz with over 1.53vcore and other settings upped ... with the 0503 bios

are you getting a higher OC with the multi overclocking or FSB?

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Originally Posted by Copenhagen69

hows the 2022 bios?
i have a qx9650 and i have been trying to OC it ...
i cant seem to get stable at 4GHz with over 1.53vcore and other settings upped ... with the 0503 bios

are you getting a higher OC with the multi overclocking or FSB?

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the 2202 is nice its got some good stuff but ALOT OF STUFF, and some i have no clue as to what they are lol but am sure i will after i finally get this machine stable. im not as experienced as everyone here ive only been overclocking mildy in the past but wanted to try a bit more with this cpu. am getting a better result with the 12 multi than the fsb.
am not going to 4ghz i just want to stay at 3.5 and ill be pretty happy

the system will be pretty stable but get lags and crashes when i try cpu intensive work and when am in prime 95

i really want to get this done as i was really excited to finally get a good system and i dont wanna get disappointed..more so !!

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Originally Posted by thedan55

so is it better to push the fsb or the multi? after loads of reading i thoght it was better to push the multi rather than the fsb if you can.

am just wondering will this guide still work if im using a higher multi and a lower fsb as opposed to the opposite like he has?

ive read the guide up and down and i just want to know.....

ive been trying to sort out my MF2 and QX6700 for like 3-4 weeks now and its soooo annoying!!!! im SO happy the amazing people at this forum showed me this and i am just amazed with the guy that wrote it!!!! hes going to heaven for helping so many of us!!! lol

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Well, in your scenario, you have the advantage of an unlocked multiplier, so you don't need to put any strain on the motherboard or memory system by overcloking the fsb. Most of us with locked multis need to increase fsb to get the desired speeds. Theoretically, you should be able to keep everything at default (except voltages), and just up the multiplier and vcore, whilst keeping everything else at near to default voltages. Keep an eye on temperatures, and make sure everything stays below 65°C. A lot of it is trial and error, and you will probably spend a few more weeks tweaking away, the key is to make notes about what settings affect stability.

If you want more specific info, I would try to get to a point where you are nearly stable, and fill out a settings template which are scattered throughout this thread, then we may be able to advise on some changes.

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Originally Posted by Copenhagen69

hows the 2022 bios?
i have a qx9650 and i have been trying to OC it ...
i cant seem to get stable at 4GHz with over 1.53vcore and other settings upped ... with the 0503 bios

are you getting a higher OC with the multi overclocking or FSB?

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1.53vcore is WAYYYY too high! Get off that 0503 bios too, that's a very old, unstable one!

Let me know how you get on with 1901 - that is what worked best for me ;)

this is where i am at the mo

my fsb is 290 x 12x

CPU VCORE-1.37500
PLL V-1.53975
FSB TERMINATION/VTT- 1.31200
DRAM V- 1.89275 (ram is running at 872mhz)
NBCORE - 1.24575
SB CORE 1.5 - 1.50000
SB 1.1 CORE - 1.10000

THIS LASTED FOR <5 MINS THEN BSOD'D ON ME AND IS ALMOST ALWAYS CORE 4 ON PRIME95

this is really stressing me out and i really wanted this cpu to work well so i could get on with my stuff . I feel really disappointed lol
i must have started from scratch like 15 times!

ok ill try the 1901 BIOS ... ya i didnt stay at 1.53 haha i was there for like 5 minutes ...

right now im at 3.72GHz @ 1.37Vcore ...

hoping to get 4GHz but i know anything over 1.4 on these 45nm chips is really bad for them ...

@ thedan:
I assume this is failing on 1024k test in p95?

What's your performance level set to? If it's too low this can cause instability, set it to 12 to rule this out. Try setting your clock twister to moderate/light/lighter too.

Have you tried adjusting CPU/NB skews? If I remember correctly, 100/300 worked best for me, these have a large affect on stability and they could just be out.

@copenhagen:
I expect 1901 to work wonders for you in comparison. Never had a need to try anything below 1301.

[QUOTE=In-Fluence;4190792]@ thedan:
I assume this is failing on 1024k test in p95?

What's your performance level set to? If it's too low this can cause instability, set it to 12 to rule this out. Try setting your clock twister to moderate/light/lighter too.

Have you tried adjusting CPU/NB skews? If I remember correctly, 100/300 worked best for me, these have a large affect on stability and they could just be out.


ill try the nb cpu skews (im still new to this) and its the small ffts 8k that it fails on i havent tried any other tests on p95

shall i leave the setting of default or still follow the guide in this thread?

installed the new 1901 bios ...
everytime i try to OC i get this error "CPU core to bus ratio or VID configuration has failed"
the heck does that mean?
my settings were:
12x280 - 12x300 - 12x250 ... is my multi causing this?

I just switch to bios2 it was 1307, only saw 3gb of my 4gb. So I went to asus and downloaded 1901 and did update in asus auto update in windows. This bios clocks much better. 2202 does not even come close to 1901. I just ran a stress test at 533 fsb and no issue. My cpu multi is at 7. Now just to find the max cpu clock speed. It would be nice to have a quad run like this. Say what is normal temp for the NB? Is it worth getting the swiftech water block for the NB?

Since I installed this mobo in my stacker 830 I haven't been able to get the stacker's front usb to work. The cables are connected to the mobo headers but when I plug a flash drive in they don't even light up. Any ideas?

Before this board I had an evga 780i and the front usb ports worked fine so maybe the usb ports just aren't getting voltage or something? The rear usb ports directly on the mobo work fine.

Excuse me if these ideas are obvious, but its all I can think of right now.

1. Double check to make sure the header went on properly, if you have to pull off and push back on. You never know.
2. Check to make sure the header is enabled in the bios. Many mobo headers can sometimes be disabled by default.
3. Simply try a different header. On modern mobos there are usually more than one USB header. Swap the cable to a different one to rule out a bad header or cable.

Other than that maybe you got a bad header or the cable went bad during the swap out. Good luck...

Are you guys still using LLC on the 45nm chips without a problem? Reason I ask is I re-ran Prime and LinX tonight after trusting my 4Ghz oc for a long time (LLC off.) Both programs were packing up almost immediately :( I tried upping vcore a tad more - vcore (1.3625v) CPU PLL (1.52v) VTT (1.2v) NB (1.3v) and all sorts of combinations but nothing seemed to work. I got more and more peed off and thought I'd just try LLC, so I lowered vcore to 1.275v and PLL, VTT etc to my normal low levels and ran the stress test again (LLC on).. Immediately the system was stable again :) This got me thinking that perhaps having LLC turned off (for over a year) thus requiring higher vcore etc is a bad thing because without LLC I seems to have suffered some sort of degredation which is now requireing more volts to get everything stable again? So again back to the question what are you guys doing regarding LLC these days?

Regards

Orb

I'm pretty sure nothing's wrong with your chip. Don't worry.
And your voltage settings in BIOS are obviously going to be higher with LLC off than with LLC on.

I wonder if perhaps the system has become unstable since changing the PSU then as it's the only thing I've changed since noticing the instability? Although I did have a good PSU previously too (Corsair TX750.) Is running LLC alright these days as it was considered a no no when the 45nm chips came out?

whats LLC?

Load Line Calibration. I suggest using it if you're planning to achieve high overclocks.