DFI RDX200 CF-DR First look

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10-23-2005, 09:29 PM
Jaco

DFI NF4 was not without 'issues' in the beginning. Nothing to worry about imho
The NF4 was eating memory sticks and killing cpu's , remember ?

Just give the guys some time to come up with a better (user friendly) bios. (more compatible with diff mem ,etc)

This board has huge potential it just need to be 'tamed'.

I like the fact that it wil take time and tinkering to setup right. Would be quite boring if all would work on the first attempt , no? That's what so fun about overclocking ! Pushing things and MAKING it work !

Can't wait till my board is here!
10-23-2005, 09:42 PM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

DFI NF4 was not without 'issues' in the beginning. Nothing to worry about imho
The NF4 was eating memory sticks and killing cpu's , remember ?

Just give the guys some time to come up with a better (user friendly) bios. (more compatible with diff mem ,etc)

This board has huge potential it just need to be 'tamed'.

I like the fact that it wil take time and tinkering to setup right. Would be quite boring if all would work on the first attempt , no? That's what so fun about overclocking ! Pushing things and MAKING it work !

Can't wait till my board is here!

i think its funny that people call this a beta board, it works fine at stock speeds last i checked, and its much more stable then dfi's last mobo release....
10-23-2005, 09:46 PM
Jaco

I am in no way implying this is a beta board.
10-23-2005, 09:50 PM
bachus_anonym

Tony,

I went through entire thread. There's one question being asked few times and nobody seemed to get a straight answer for it. So, I will ask again...

We know that DDR600+ is sort of out of question on this board... But - and that is that particular question - how high does HTT go? Will people with Venice 3000+ or Opteron 144 (multi x9) be able to run their CPUs north of 2.8Ghz-2.9Ghz or higher on this mobo? For that they will need at least 311-322HTT? How about 330HTT for 3GHz? Does this board go this high or not?
10-23-2005, 09:54 PM
Jaco

bachus,

from what I understand ,300+ HTT speeds is no problem
only 1:1 300HTT seems not possible (yet)
10-23-2005, 10:08 PM
dinos22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Tony,

I went through entire thread. There's one question being asked few times and nobody seemed to get a straight answer for it. So, I will ask again...

We know that DDR600+ is sort of out of question on this board... But - and that is that particular question - how high does HTT go? Will people with Venice 3000+ or Opteron 144 (multi x9) be able to run their CPUs north of 2.8Ghz-2.9Ghz or higher on this mobo? For that they will need at least 311-322HTT? How about 330HTT for 3GHz? Does this board go this high or not?

i actually asked RG the same thing over at DFI-street and it looks very good i must say :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by RGone

dinos22 man, I am on 340HTT x 8, with 166 mem speed set which gives me 2719Mhz and within the max range of my cpu and the memory is at 271.9Mhz and I am happily priming along. So if my Opteron comes with a 10 multiplier>>>Hot dog I should be able to push it easily and keep my memory at around 280 which I know the board does fine. Seems your plan may well be doable man. Letting this go for 8 hours for OCDB entry. I need a faster processor/// hehehehehe. :nod:

RGone...

....hope he won't mind me quoting
10-23-2005, 10:11 PM
bachus_anonym

That's what I wanted to be cleared up. Thanks dinos22 :)
10-23-2005, 10:30 PM
gundamit

So RGone gets 340HTT (is that max?) while over at Anand they get just over 300HTT. Is this due more to the people and their skills or the range of performance from board to board? 340 is great but with some stellar Opteron 144s you might want a little more.
10-24-2005, 07:17 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by gundamit

So RGone gets 340HTT (is that max?) while over at Anand they get just over 300HTT. Is this due more to the people and their skills or the range of performance from board to board? 340 is great but with some stellar Opteron 144s you might want a little more.

AT ran games and benches looking at their review, Rgone and myself run prime for 8 hrs minimum as well as games and benches etc. We have seen 4 hrs 100% prime stable but then crash, this is perfectly stable for all game benches to run.

All things included you will stand more chance if you have awesome cpu's and good memory, I try and test with crappy el cheapo CPU's so you guys actually all do better than me.

And 340 is not the max async, i have seen 370+ on the board I have here.
10-24-2005, 08:15 AM
situman

Can anyone test with some Crucial Ballistix? Also Tony, the board works perfectly fine with a 4pin instead of the 8pin?

Thanks.
10-24-2005, 08:19 AM
Tony

Quote:

Originally Posted by situman

Can anyone test with some Crucial Ballistix? Also Tony, the board works perfectly fine with a 4pin instead of the 8pin?

Thanks.

it works with a 4 pin
10-24-2005, 08:22 AM
CrashOv3r1De

Yeah I am interested how the board works with 2x1gb crucial ballistix.

Can anyone give that a run once they have some time?
10-24-2005, 08:42 AM
jetjaguar

Quote:

Originally Posted by CrashOv3r1De

Yeah I am interested how the board works with 2x1gb crucial ballistix.

Can anyone give that a run once they have some time?

yes im definitely interested in seeing some results with 2x1gb crucial ballistix .. i need a new motherboard and its either this one of the expert one if it ever comes out
10-24-2005, 09:09 AM
Diverge

I'm interested in the results with 2 x 1GB Ballistix as well. My RDX200 should be here in a couple days, but i am gonna be building it with all new cpu (opteron 146) and totally different platform (vs. signel channel nf3 board), so i dunno what to expect when comparing my past results to what i might get with the RDX200.

Edit: added CPU type ;)
10-24-2005, 09:10 AM
Vapor

What CPU?
10-24-2005, 09:15 AM
Revv23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaco

I am in no way implying this is a beta board.

Whoops, sorry, could see how you would think that, no i just posted your post as an example of how people should look at this board, i wholeheartedly agree with your post.

:toast:
10-24-2005, 09:45 AM
butter_fry

How to make a long painful thread longer

Hey guys, here's another unfortunate first experience.

I'm not a regular poster here so i don't have a current signature updated, but i'll list what i've tried in this RDX.

I spent all weekend being tortued with this problem, while keepin an eye on here and dfi-street. Been wanting to jump in here but it took 2 days to get my account activated so I could post.

PSU: OCZ Modstream 520
CPU: 4400+, 3700+ SD, 3500+ Venice, 3200+ winchester
Mem: UTT BH5 (got pounds of it here, i've tried most. some known good up to 270mhz) G-skill 2x1gb (F1-3200USU2, Stable in NF4 DFI up to 23x but haven't tested too much TCCD), G-Skill 2x512 (some of the cheap ZX stuff, nothing special but its TCCD)

Perifs: I've tried it all. sata, pata, multiple video cards, and minimal boot only, you know the drill.

So here's my problem. Im lucky if it posts at all after saving a bios setting.
The only way It will boot is to save the setting, wait 5 seconds, manually power off the machine, and then power it on. The settings do save, but the performance is absolutly terrible. There seems to be a wall about 225mhz HTT. That sounds like its not properly locking the pci, but i know that to be untrue via cpu-z.

The only component I haven't switched is the PSU, which i suspect to be the problem. I didn't have another one available with me to test this unfortunatly. This ModStream is a 4 pinner, not 8. Although i was under the impression this isn't a necessity, I'd like to know your guys' thoughts on this.

I'm quite methodical in my setups, so i really don't think its something i'm doing, but you never know.

I'll update as i try a new PSU which i'll have to go buy as all the ones i've got access to are 4 pins. Rather unfortunate that i'm brought to that just to get this board working. But i'll save the disapointment in lieu of constructive problem solving at this point.

-butter
10-24-2005, 10:47 AM
s7e9h3n

Quote:

Originally Posted by bachus_anonym

Honestly, If I was a hardcore gamer that needs 2x1GB and likes to OC his RAM then I would only buy RDX200 if it proofed that it can do it better than DFI NF4. Unless, one is an ATI fanboy and really needs Crossfire instead of SLi.
So, If DFI RDX200 was tweaked for 2x1GB then I would understand it must be better at handling it and OCing, right? So, my question is - is it or not then?

AFAIK, Oskar had offered ATI different options for configurations for this board. ATI chose the ability to run 4x512MB 1t and strong LL/BH clocks (at least better than the Nf4 boards) as their emphasis. So this board is basically the result of their choices - a board which has ultimately a lower limit to it's FSB, poorer TCCD clocking capability, but excels with BH/UTT memory and has the ability to run 4x512mb 1t.
10-24-2005, 10:48 AM
Capt_Caveman

FWIW, this is the first ATI Crossfire chipset mobo to hit the market. Only the naive would assume it to not have any bugs/issues. As mentioned earlier, the first nf4 chipset mobo's had issues and that's why there have been so many bios updates for all of the boards(including non-dfi).

As an earlier adopter, you need to expect these things to happen. I'm surprised to hear so much complaining. And in regards to 4-pin/8-pin psu connectors, my Seasonic S12 500 has both. Coming from an Intel 955x mobo that required a 8-pin connector, I'm surprised to see other high-end psu companies don't provide both connections.
10-24-2005, 11:01 AM
Vapor

Why both???? An 8-pin should just be converted down to 4 or strategically plugged in so that 4 are dangling (I have an 8-pin Fortron that I used on a 4-pin board for ~2 years sans adapter). Why new PSUs don't have 8-pin is a good question, though.

In light of it all, there's tremendous performance and promise shining through the complaining (just so long as you don't want to use TCCD). And besides, it WILL get better :D
10-24-2005, 11:03 AM
AlterBridge86

I know someone asked this a while back but i never saw a response...i'm sure it got overlooked being that it was a tad OT:

Tony, do you have any word on when you'll be seeing a CF-BT? Also, being that you had so much input on the creation of that board, do you know if it too is tuned to 2x1gb and LL/BH or will it be a great clocker for ALL memory modules?

and to end - just wanted to say Tony that I, as do the rest of us i'm sure, really appreciate your thorough testing and diligence in trying to get this board to perform its best. Also of course for bringing us "the goods" as far as info goes on the boards well before anyone else - so Thanks! :toast:
10-24-2005, 11:13 AM
Tony

CF-BT is either delayed or cancelled By DFI, hard to tell which. Expert is also delayed due to what i think is DFI having a rethink on the board.

CF-BT is a good clocker, had better features than the RDX so would still be a good board to release...i guess it comes down to time and money available, with Oskar looking to tweak the RDX maybe there is no time for the CF-BT....untimately who knows!
10-24-2005, 11:16 AM
Capt_Caveman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tony

CF-BT is either delayed or cancelled By DFI, hard to tell which. Expert is also delayed due to what i think is DFI having a rethink on the board.

CF-BT is a good clocker, had better features than the RDX so would still be a good board to release...i guess it comes down to time and money available, with Oskar looking to tweak the RDX maybe there is no time for the CF-BT....untimately who knows!

Bad news on all fronts for me, as I'm very interested in both of those boards.
10-24-2005, 11:17 AM
jetjaguar

where are you guys buying ur CF-DR's from in the usa ??/

also what is the difference between the cf-dr and the cf-bt ??
10-24-2005, 11:24 AM
ZeroX

When will be released the CF-BT? and.. like jetjaguar said, what are the differences?

Thanks for all who are testing this board to provide us info the quickest way possible ;)

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