I agree it would be nice but not everyone uses an operating system with AVX so there's a place for the non AVX/Under 100GFlops.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
If you want/need to shrink the under 100's down feel free to remove my 2 buddy.
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I agree it would be nice but not everyone uses an operating system with AVX so there's a place for the non AVX/Under 100GFlops.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
If you want/need to shrink the under 100's down feel free to remove my 2 buddy.
Nah, not yet. Or maybe not at all... It's just an idea.
And submissions don't just go anywhere... I only keep one submission for one person with one batch. You submit a new one (with the same CPU, I mean), and you just move to a different category. :)
One of the reasons for non-AVX category is - exactly - users who can not use AVX for various reasons (Vista, for instance).
Besides... Maybe it's not a bad thing that more people get to submit their results. Fun for everyone! :)
I do encourage to use AVX in testing, though, it is the ultimate definition of stability.
Hi, Zalbard ,
may I present this :)
2600K batch L041B213T/ MB ASUS P8P67DL bios 1305/
4Gb Patriot Viper II 9 9 9 28 2T / Vcore 1,450@BIOS/watercooling -Laing pump+Alphacool top/
http://www.abload.de/thumb/zal67zg.jpg
http://www.abload.de/thumb/zalii97d8.jpg
:yepp:
That is some big time stress going there for that chip Ace!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace.
yea CPU is a good but I'm looking for a better one :D
With the help of some of you I managed to hit 4.5ghz @1.424v. Temps leveled out in the low 80's.
Gigabyte X58A-UD3R
On Air
Batch#: 3951B054
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4...2521042110.jpg
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/4...2521042110.jpg
Yoshimura | Core i7 2600K [4C 4T] @ 5302.0MHz | 1.512 | Gigabyte P67A-UD4 | Water | L042B076
http://www.abload.de/thumb/1gzfl.gif
This is my best. Can't get higher with the cooling I have. :(
:D:D:D hey yoshi buddy :welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshimura
Ahoi....:wave:
+1 L042B076 madness!
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/5402/5100.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/236/5100end.jpg
Rig with real vCore ( 1.422v )
http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8786/dsc9358.jpg
CPU-Z 8 Threads Linx 4 Threads ....What that :(
You must run it 4threads so it gives >100Gflops, it's harder then HT off on bios and run it 4 threads :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Yoshimura
Hi,
Please update the Batch number for my submission
Paradoxxx | Core i7 920 [4C 4T] @ 4503.9MHz | 1.435 | EVGA Classified E760 | Water | -3844A759
here is my L042B208 on water with 1.488 actual volts under full load (bios 1.505)
this chip will not go higher than x51:shakes: and does not like bclk over 101.9:shrug:
http://i56.tinypic.com/2agm4l.jpg
as for the memory all I have is hypers and they all (Corsair Dominator GT 2000c8, STT 2200c8, and STT 2000c7) blow on this board (p67pro)
we need a hyper friendly bios
Hope this is OK for a non AVX setup.
I've only got one ATI 5870 installed for my LinX run
Motherboard...........Gig GA-P67A-UD7
Batch number.........L042B076
Water cooling with Swiftech gear
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/552...34thrds.th.png
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/2733/sam1624.th.jpg
i3 560 @ 5Ghz , passed with HT on and off , Passed linx xD xD ,
Why Zalbard was banned ???
I was looking for that too and found
EXPLANATION WHY ZALBARD WAS BANNED
Please don't go off topic here also, as suggested in that thread by Vapor.
i7 920 | 4523 Mhz | 1.500 vcore | Asus Rampage II Gene | Batch 3844A716 | Swiftech Apogee XT | Indigo Xtreme TIM | Swiftech MCR320QP | Swiftech MCP655 | Koolance RP-452X2 | Cooler Master HAF-X
First time run
Please comment if i am doing somthing wrong?
Got a little nervous about my temp
Gigabyte P67A-UD7
Water CPU on H70
LLC1
L041B213T
http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/a.../th_test5g.jpg
Wow Mr Newhit, vey nice! Much congrats! Hope this meets all the new rules, great run!Quote:
Originally Posted by newhit
Final run 5G
Is temp normal for h70? or is it a bad batch.
Gigabyte P67A-UD7
Water CPU on H70
LLC2
Volt bios: 1.410
L041B213T
http://i942.photobucket.com/albums/a...th_test5g2.jpg
Cheers "SteveRo" :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Are you getting much higher with your cascade or is the SB not reacting much to cold? I've got an SS but reluctant to hook it up. The few searches I've done don't inspire me a lot............or am I wrong.........again :)
OOPS! I'm assuming you've taken the plunge. Sorry if you haven't.
5.1ghz with AVX
1.515 | ASUS P8P67 Deluxe | Water | L042B243
http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/5144/57972325.jpg
Good morning, yes doing fairly well with SB except I keep killing h/w.Quote:
Originally Posted by newhit
Killed both a 54x and a UD5.
Waiting now for the new mobo's.
Out of seven chips the best I have is one 56x and one 55. - :D
http://hwbot.org/community/submissio...600k_12.98_sec
first real go @ above 5k
Run @5088
SEVEN!!:clap: Here, in the UK, that would cost me more than my wifes' quarterly (make that three weeks) smoking habit :down::yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveRo
Besides, I don't think I could find another chip with my resources that would get me past my current chip (I know, there are plenty out there, but not round the corner from me).
i7 2600K Batch: L045B005
Gigabyte p67a ud4
Custom Build SS
http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/3...8232305.th.jpg
No cold boot on UD4 ??Quote:
Originally Posted by lkozarov
There is cold boot. The processor can POST 2 multiplayers higher on air, and much more start up loops on SS, but otherwise it works. Unfortunately my Hyper`s don`t work on this MoBo above 1600MHz.
Edit: Some more GFlops:
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/819...9110049.th.jpg
I'm back (except for the XS News permanent ban) and will probably get around to update the OP tonight.
Great GFlops!Quote:
Originally Posted by lkozarov
Does Zalbard stop updating the topic ? :(
good to have you back:up:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
see above:DQuote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
no kidding I was wondering what happened. . .Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
glad your back though, and great looking avatar:up:
News to me :p: :up:.Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Glad you're back :yepp:.
Is the first post never updated?
Zalbard was taking a one week pause from forums, how about reading a few posts above you...?
Reading all the forum is a bit of a job :)
Maybe a update on that information in the first post....
On Air Cooling
CPU: i5 2500K @5104Mhz [Batch#: L041C119]
M/B: Biostar TP67XE
Memory : Corsair Dominator GT [2048x2]
VGA : HIS ATi 5850
Power Supply : Tagan BZ800 [800watt]
http://www.vmodtech.com/main/wp-cont...ll_130-130.png
The first post is updated. Amazingly, everyone made it! Looks like everyone has finally noticed the rule update. :yepp:
Outstanding! Looks like you've taken the top! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Yoshimura
That's pretty good, actually. Well done! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by AUGieDogie
L042B076 seems to be the best best out of those being posted in this thread. :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by st0ned
Done! Thanks! :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paradoxxx
Very nice! Great clocks! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by newhit
Please don't scale down your images. Other than that, it's fine. Your temps are... OK. I wouldn't worry too much. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tnc99
+1Quote:
Originally Posted by owikh84
That's the last time I am reiterating this. A bunch of people are using 1.8GB for LinX with 4Gb installed. Well, that's the last time I am accepting such submissions. Put your RAM to use, people!Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
So does that mean you will not be accepting results run on 32-bit systems such as Friday~13rd where it it not possible to run with 2GB of RAM or more with 4GB installed?Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Thank´s :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Uhm, OK. That's a good point. I was kind of expecting everyone was on 64 bit (except for people still on XP) by now. :shrug:Quote:
Originally Posted by some_one
Well, if someone is running a 32-bit system, that could explain this, yes. In this case, it's fine. I might have questions, but if one is indeed running a 32-bit OS and using all the RAM they can take from OS, so be it, valid enough for me. :up:
5ghz with AVX
1.44v | Asrock P67 Extreme 4 | Water | L042B291
http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/2...1440vtest2.png
You should rename this thread, since 20 runs with Lynx is not stable by any mean!!Just read the readme included with the installation programand you will see that to call a system really Lynx stable you need at least 50-100 runs.In my experience it has to be more than 250 since i had crashes up to 243 run.Cheers
You should also post requirements for sr-2 users.If you set all the ram it will become unbareably slow since (it is my guess) every core will try to use the memory of the other cpu which is a way slower access than to his own memory bank. Secondly with sr-2 setups using 16(for double quad corexeon) or 24threads(for double exacore) is not a good stability check since in this way every thread is confined to a single core and you don't test the stability of the qpi between the cpus.Hence 32 threads testing is required since in this way you have threds jumping from one core to the other and from one cpu to the other and in this way you can test also the qpi between cpus.
Thirdly you should use your chipset connected devices to check if chipset too is "Lynx stable".For example QPI crapping after 7000 GT/s does not show up very evidently in Lynx testing if you don't play an audio sample and listen with your ears if there are stutters n the audio while for example testing lynx and listening to an audio file( i suggest clean audio samples like classical music since in this way you will be able to spot even the smallest stutters in the audio due to qpi crapping.Cheers and happy stability session to everybody
I suggest 500 runs and heavy metal music...
FYI even if it's 100 passes LinX stable, it can still crap out in Prime, Hyperpi, games or whetever... you just have to draw a line somewhere.. C'mon imagine 250 passes with 16Gb or more.. It will take days, a pure waste of cycles... and utterly silly hardware torture... and the longer it takes, the more the influence of other factors like ambient temps etc... if it passes at daily usage/torture it's more than stable enough.. but opinions differ ofc...
First Submission and attempt to join the club
XeL_NaGa | Core i7 980x [6C 12T] @ 4636.6 MHz | 1.48 in bios | Rampage III Extreme | Water | 3035B799
Memory is at 6x2GB @ 1950MHz 8-9-8-24
Will post more settings later.
http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f2...aga15/club.jpg
Nobody said it was ultimately stable, Its just a club & 20 loops is the minimum required to enter & a heck of a lot better than most people even need for there home rig. I've run plenty rigs that would fail such tests but never crash etc with my daily use. If you want to do more loops go for it & if you want to run other tests why don’t you start a stock speed database or an OC DB & spend hours & hours of your time maintaining it like Zalbard does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
BTW didn’t see your entry why don’t you post up your 250+ loop entry
Agree with C-N, it's just a hurdle to jump over with our machines, and it's fun. More than 20 is just getting silly as Leeg said, but 20 is hard enough to make this a fun challenge not everyone can manage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
Why don't you start your own club, then? See how many people want to run 250 loops while sitting at the PC and carefully listening to the music for hours at a time looking for stutters (and do you want them to post 10+ hour recordings of their music playback?)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
I think my requirements are reasonable. Seeing as I've got around 200 people join, I guess I'm not the only one thinking that way. ;)
You are posting a lot of assumptions about an SR-2 setup. Looks like you don't have one. So why are you so bothered?
Let's not discuss what's stable and what's not here. I've never claimed ultimate stability. Just sufficient one. :) I think this discussion belongs to a different thread.
And what is this "Lynx" you keep talking about? :D
wanna also join :D
Sauron_Vie | Core i7 2600K [4C 8T] @ 5026.0MHz | 1.48 | Asus P8P67Pro | Water | L039B470
for my taste this is a little bit too much vcore.. have to play around ;)
That's on the button for me C-N.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
Like the reference to posting 250 loops.:clap:
PS
Further to the above I've now been running LinX for two and a half hours and am just passing 180 loops. I would post pics but my computer has flatly refused to have anything to do with me and is only continuing because I have threatened to force installation of a floppy disk drive (errrr, not that there is anything wrong with floppies.....:eek:;))
New formatting draft, still experimenting. Too bad the code window is so damn narrow. Wish I could change the width. :(
Code:# Member name CPU Info [# cores, threads] vCore Motherboard * Batch
1. Yoshimura Ci7 2600K [4C 4T] 5302.1MHz 1.512 GBT P67A-UD4 W L042B076
2. Ace. Ci7 2500K [4C 4T] 5300.0MHz 1.568 ASU P8P67 WS W L047B217
3. lkozarov Ci7 2600K [4C 4T] 5153.5MHz 1.548 GBT P67A-UD4 P L045B005
4. st0ned Ci7 2600K [4C 8T] 5100.2MHz 1.424 ASU P8P67 EVO W L042B076
5. dragonhunter Ci7 2600K [4C 4T] 5100.5MHz 1.488 ASU P8P67 DLX W L042B243
6. beast200 Ci7 2500K [4C 4T] 5088.8MHz 1.456 ASR P67 XTR 6 W L046B582
7. AUGieDogie Ci7 2600K [4C 4T] 5076.0MHz 1.456 ASU P8P67 EVO A L041C106
8. crossg Ci7 2600K [4C 4T] 5022.8MHz 1.416 ASU P8P67 DLX A L038A660
9. Cy4n1d3 Ci7 2500K [4C 4T] 5004.0MHz 1.424 ASR P67 XTR 4 A L041B789
10 C-N Ci7 2500K [4C 4T] 5001.5MHz 1.368 GBT P67A-UD5 W L050A864
11 l0ud_sil3nc3 Ci7 2600K [4C 8T] 5000.1MHz 1.488 ASU P8P67 PRO W L050A864
Lemme know what you guys think! :DCode:* cooling type:
A = Air,
W = Water,
C = Chilled Air / Water,
P = Phase (Cascade, Single Stage, etc),
D = Dry Ice,
L = LN2 / LHe!
*laughs*
i like:D
like it also :D
@zalbard: i passed now linx with 5,2ghz. should i edit my post above or should i post the screens again ?
Go ahead and post a new one! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
ok, thx for the quick reply :D
here we go: :up:
Sauron_Vie | Core i7 2600K [4C 8T] @ 5200.0MHz | 1.568 | Asus P8P67Pro | Water | L039B470
You don't need to listen to music for the 250 loops run,just play couple of times a clean music mp3 while testing to check qpi stability. Mine are not assumptions anyway but based on real experience. You say let's not discuss what's stable and what's not here,but the name of your thread is "Intel 4.5 GHZ & 5 GHZ LINX STABLE CLUB". SO i was pointing out that your requirements don't give any warranty of Lynx stability,since IF you had read the readme.txt in Lynx you would have seen that to call stable a system at least 50-100 passes with all logical cores at work are needed. I say that this discussion belongs to this thread :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
This is the link to my build in evga modrigs if you are interested.Later when my scandisk finishes on my desktop i will post the screenshot you asked as proof that i own such system even if yours seems just a childish provocation.Infact i don't understand how my statements would be less right even if i was running a downclocked pentium pro since before quoting my experience i quoted the readme included with the installer of lynx:
http://www.evga.com/ModsRigs/detail.aspx?BuildID=22992
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
dude stop being a tard and at least acknowledge that it is the "LinX" stability club and not "Lynx", we are talking about a program that tests for stability, not this
http://www.nisd.net/ward/Staff/gt_pa.../lynx-baby.jpg
now go play some classical music and run 5000000000000001.32 passes of LinX to test for QPI stability:D
Number of passes depends upon ho powerful the system is.I talked about 250 passes for my system.i should have been more precise and talk about time.10-12 hours is the time that is needed to really call a system linx stable. Secondly loudsilence it is not me the tard cause i make a typo, if you want to spot a tard go check your comment under your pic.I didn't sya you got to listen music for 1010101010 hours just a couple of times while testing and 10-12 hours is not unreasonable as stabilty testing time.Of course if your purpose is just to have your selfesteem enhanced by the illusion of being linx stable go on like this otherwise show a bit more respect and reply with arguments and not with dubious taste names calling.
What do you want me to do, then? Rename the thread to "Intel 4.5GHz & 5GHz LinX Seemingly Stable Club"?
You can still run 250 passes and join the club, btw. 20 is just the minimal accepted number.
"Reasonable" stability testing time varies from person to person, btw. Some think that doing more than 5 is unreasonable. I am personally content with 20-25. I don't run anything even remotely as stressful as LinX during the normal usage.
I still don't see why you don't start your own club instead of changing this one. It is much easier since I am not really inclined to change the rules.
:ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
i don't know the thread is yours :) maybe just raise the requirements to the ones suggested by the readme...and you will see that your club will become even more exclusive :) and that lot of skills in settting will be required other than a good chip.For example for those who run evga mbs it will be needed to mess with signal tweaks once they pass a certain bclck,with ich settings( to give stability to usb or devices connected to the chipset) and so on. dobroi vicer :)
edit:Then don't change anything.thread is yours...but the tag "linx stable" is not correct.that'sall. Cheers to everybody
even if you run just 1 run its is technically LinX stable,but just 1 run LinX stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
and since his thread is not called the "Intel 4.5GHz & 5GHz 250 run LinX Stable Club"
but rather "Intel 4.5GHz & 5GHz LinX Stable Club" then its titled correctly.
bye bye now:D
1 run linx stable doesn't mean anything.you call something stable according to a certain program if executing that program results in stable operation and this mean that it doens't crash,NEVER.period.
It doesn't exist stability if after 50 loops it crashes .That's what i was pointing at.Stability with a certain program exists if it never crashes no matter how long time it is left running. SO you cannot say i am 20 run linx stable.You can say that you can run 20 linx run without errors but to be able to say that you are linx or prime stable you must be able to leave those programs running an indefinite amount of time without having errors.Usually this time is estimated to be 10-12 hours for IBT/Linx . I don't understand why all this fuss about smth that is written on the very same readme of linx.Is this discovery putting in doubt the self esteem of some due to their e-penis not so rock-solid as they thought?
You are so stubborn! :down:
How would you feel I if came and started rearranging furniture around your house???
Leave this club alone. :slap:
Just picked up a 990x this evening.. just learning the Gulftown.. but looks like a keeper. I am able to boot into windows @ 5100mhz without any hassle hopefully I have enough left to make the 5ghz club at some point..
Can you please add me to the Gulftown table (I think I have everything):
needforspeed| Core i7 990X [6C 12T] @ 4835.5MHz | 1.535 | ASUS Rampage III Extreme | Water | 3045B094
Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
how can we put this nicely. . . .
piss off:frag:
Ohhhhhh I like that :up: v nice & def a keeperQuote:
Originally Posted by needforspeed
Nice!Quote:
Originally Posted by needforspeed
But no, you can't join our club. Must be 12,400 loops stable. See you next year :p:
Are you talking about the 990X or zalbards avatar?:DQuote:
Originally Posted by C-N
I've got an AVX run for submission..........
:rofl::ROTF::rofl::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by tool_462
how's sandy bridge treating you?
Marvelous.Quote:
Originally Posted by l0ud_sil3nc3
Now that the P8P67 Pro has a better BIOS, once I upgrade my case I'll start binning for a good 2600K :)
He he ye both are fine bits of silicone & although she really wouldn’t have to ask twice!!! Its Roselyn Sanchez that makes my tyres squeal!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by crossg
Funny you should mention tyres...........ever since I went out with her she's been texting me non stop about having a puncture:shrug::idea:Quote:
Originally Posted by C-N
LinX must be running on screenshot.
And please fill the necessary details about your rig.
Not to mention that your clock is too low to join...
Read the OP.
Hope mine's alright further up because I'm soon to submit another oneQuote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
Batch number is L042B076 as before
It's perfect! :up:
Do i get free dental plan if i join the club?
Yeah, sure. Come to Russia, I'll fix you up with my dremel, no problem. :p:
Guys, what is the estimated life expectancy of those chips running 24/7 @ 1.56 Volts (being speced at max 1.38)?
Soya
Was I missing anything on my submission?Quote:
Originally Posted by zalbard
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1507
looks shopped...
44.5GFlops at 4.5ghz with 6c/12t? Sorry, but he should be pulling 80+ easy. I pull over 80GFlops at 4.2ghz with 6c/12t on my i7 970.
will the first post be updated sometime ?
I'm really busy right now, I'll do what I can. Tomorrow, perhaps.
Sorry.
okido, i understand. no probl. only want to know that the thread WILL be updated sometime.. no time limit :D
i7 980x Batch 3041B300
Gigabyte X58 UD7 Rev 1.0
6GB OCZ Platinum PC3 12800
WC: Apogee XT + BlackIce GTX360 + Ultrakzes 3.000 RPM
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...nx21passos.jpg
http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/...LynxFinish.jpg
:)
I had similar probs with my 980x............Quote:
Originally Posted by zoson
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=262
I then loaded up "diagnostic mode" on the desktop and got a bit better
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=272
When you say "shopped" do you mean that you can doctor your run in "Photoshop"? I hope not:shakes::down:
That's exactly what I'm saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by newhit
What's the diagnostic mode?
And if it is not shopped. It's pitiful. My Q9650 got more than 45gflops at 4ghz.
4.2ghz: 79gflops. lots of stuff open too.
http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r...79gflplinx.jpg
4.5ghz isn't 4.5ghz unless it performs like 4.5ghz.
Oh I see, the msconfig diagnostic mode... wow... so many services starting that it tanks your performance? How can you guys even call your pc's stable if your chip is wasting so many cycles that LinX can't stress the whole chip/ram?
10 mins :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by soya_crack
Oh and about that 4.5GHz 45GFLOPS submission, have a look at the load on Realtemp in the running screen, ~53%. Unless he took that screeny right as it was calculating the output of the current loop that would indicate why he has very low GFLOPS and also probably why it actually passed at 4.5GHz with 1.312v.
:D approx. 15 min.Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Only with high end water cooling :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sauron_Vie
or phase :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Ok I don't want to drag this out further, but I think this needs addressing. Firstly we acknowledge your point about the fact that ultimate stability is essentially unable to be proven as you would have to run the application/suite of applications indefinitely and even then you would say after 5 years be 'only' 5 years (insert application name here) stable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Grinchy
Secondly, there seems to be a bit of language interpretation getting in the way here. You made the comment that an individual could say their machine is 'able to run 20 passes of LinX without error' and you then said an individual could not say their machine is '20 pass LinX stable'. I can tell you, and I am most certainly not being patronizing in any way here, that those 2 statements in english mean the same thing. '20 pass' is the qualifier to the statement 'LinX stable'. 'LinX stable' as a claim is only an absolute if it is not qualified by the number of passes, and when it is, it means it is only x passes LinX stable. All of us are only making the qualified and limited statement that our machines can run LinX at >/= 4.5GHz for 20 or more passes without error. We are most certainly not claiming absolute stability nor trying to achieve it.
Zalbard chose 20 passes at max mem settings because its hard to do, but not incredibly hard, and it takes a short enough amount of time for people to want to have a go. It's the perfect idea and requirements for a club so us guys can just have a bit of fun with the thousands of dollars worth of gear we all own and admire each others achievements.
I hope this clears things up for you.
That is awesome :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by needforspeed
There are a few of them on the result page in the first post. RRunner just posted his, which is obviously not credible due to the load discrepancy. I was talking about the submission from the user 'Decky.'Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK
Methinks the soap box is welded on too tight :)Quote:
Originally Posted by CryptiK