i will try the 1611 bios when i get to my office tommorow morning.
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i will try the 1611 bios when i get to my office tommorow morning.
Hows your E7200 clock axy? Mine boots to windows at almost 4GHz but is unstable.. tempted to try the TPower I still have to see if it does any better. Plus, I'm sure TPower owners would be glad to see me say that because it means I could work on a TPower mBIOS easier :D Just not enough space where I am atm to have 2 fully assembled systems. Theres more to the P5Q boards I want to do, but its tricky. I have a idea of how to do what I want, but no guarantees it will work as I will be reverse engineering BIOS code - not a easy job.
To be honest I haven't overclocked it very high due to my cooling limitations. One would've thought a thermalright ultra 90 would have been enough to OC within acceptable temps, but no. I managed to get it to 3.8GHz, but it was by accident (forgot to lower the multi duh!). It got into windows, but didn't test it. restarted and corrected it.
I'm expecting a nice HDT-S1283 sometime along next week, so I'll be able to verify then.
E7x00 series just run hot, I've seen about 70c as a average max load temp for around 3.6 - 4GHz, so I wouldn't worry too much as long as you can keep it around that.
My E7400 (RO) at 4.05ghz goes up to 65°C under small FFT... indeed hot heads but nice CPU's for the buck...
Once agin Great bios Ket
ill tok the time to stress test nd tryed to push the limit
my Goal was 4GHZ game stabel in vista 64
and it is now with prime 95 p64v258 max core temp 59 degrece after 5 min
i manage to load in vindows with 525x8 fsb@4,2GHZ but its not prime stabel
and to start at that speed my cpu 1.485V NB. 1.66V sb. 1.3V ram 2.2V
its get to hot on the cores Prime says give the cpu more V or try to lose the ram timings " and i am a littel afraid to give the cpu more V"
probberly my OCZ 2x2GB DDR2-800 Platinum Rev. 2 @ DDR2-1000 that not holding the distance i tryed to give them more V but all over 2.2v make it unstabel
but the stabel 4ghz settings is
Fsb 501x8 - pci 100 - ram at 1004 = 1:1 timings 5.5.5.15 "all V is from bios" cpu 1.40V - Nb. 1.62 - Sb. 1.2V _Pci/sata 1.6V loade line enabel - spred disabled - cpu and nb screw at 300
in her under youser gorgy_dk you can se print screen of the tests http://www.octeamdenmark.com/forums/...3665#post33665
Great work KET! I have not tried one of your bios's yet and I will be getting a new Q9650 for my rig. I was wondering which mBIOS would be best to try first, I downloaded the 1702m and the newer 1406m with the M2F memory table. My goal is obviously increasing my FSB overclocking ability. Any advice on which BIOS to try first for my setup in my sig would be greatly appreciated, thanks:up:
Hi People :)
I am new here... I was reading (with great interest) trough all the 65 (!) pages of the thread :) Vast amount of information.
I have an interesting issue with my memory. Here is quick review of my current hardware config:
Memory: OCZ2G80016GQ
Module size and kit size: 16GB (4x4GB) Q/C Kit
CPU: Intel Xeon x3360
Not overclocked, running on auto frequencies.
Motherboard: Asus P5Q-E
Bios: m1703
Video card: MSI RX3650, 512MB GDDR3
Power supply: CoolerMaster RealPower 520 W
Operating System: Windows Server 2008 x64
CPU Cooling: Asus Triton 78
I cannot make my system run with that amount of memory. I know running 16 GBs places a huge overhead on the memory controller and I would need to tweak some settings, apply more voltage on the NB and RAM, etc. OK, but what exact settings I will need?
Currently I am all on Auto. Going trough POST, but when OS boots (W2K8 Ent 64 bit) the computer reboots.
If I increase the volts to 1.86 RAM and 1.28 NB the system refuses to POST even after several power cycles. I will need to remove one memory stick, and then boot.
If for example I lower the timing and/or memory speed to 5-5-5-18, 667 MHz the system will not POST. After leaving it off for about 10 minutes then it POSTs and displays message Overclocking failed bla-bla.
I am fighting this issue for about one month. First I thought is might be BIOS issue, I did several flashes, swapping my back-up chip several times and accidentally did break one of the pin. I have ordered replacement one. Then I realized that it might be memory compatibility problem.
I have opened support request with Asus, the only answer was The memory is not on the QVL. Ok, 16 GB of RAM is advertised as supported by this MB, but on the QVL nowhere 16 GB are listed. Whatever....
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Edit: Now I am trying to run with memory speed set to 667 and everything else on Auto. The system is not stable, if I put it under load it is rebooting. I have tested Intel Burn Test for about 3 minutes - OMG, the CPU temp went to 50! And system restarted :)
I know there are high latencies (Everest shows around 90 ns) with 667 MHz and auto timings, but first of all I want my system stable. I don't want to OC the CPU.
Thanks again :)
hey i Dount Know the orginal settings on your ram
but try to increace the NB voldt manuley i am running at 1.62V With my P5Q-pro its a littel over the normal but its ok with Warter bloks on
i can say Try Ket's Bios on page 64-65 you can alvays flash back to the orginal again
good luck:)
Thanks Ket. Loving the 1702 mBIOS.
Went from official 1406 bios straight to 1702 mBios. Installed a new Q9650 VID 1.25v and got it to 4.2GHz with 1.32v stable, with no problem.
Hi Ket,
I guess, this is a silly question, but as long as there is no harm in asking...
Is it possible to attach the NB GTL Reference to the BIOS of the P5Q "Vanilla"? I can't get more than 520 FSB stable, and I have the feeling, that the NB GTL Reference could help me there.
P.S.: Thanks for all the time you invest in these BIOS mods. Great work! :clap:
Perhaps not the news some of you will want to read.. but you all knew this day would come ;) After months of various modded BIOS code, I have decided enough is enough and I will not be planning on making any new mBIOSes for P5Qs. Don't all go jumping off bridges :p: you can still help the folk who post in this thread just as I will :up:
Well Ket, your effort has been higly appreciated! Thank you for all you have given :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Larry
All in a days work! I've actually switched my Pro out for the TPower now and I'm looking at that.. already put a new P6 table in and updated the built-in memtest app :p:
so how you liking that tpower?
It sucks. With some bios work it might be alright, but the work it needs is difficult for a modder to do. Need Biostar to release an update really.
Aww, sucks. Well, it's fair I guess. The TPower users also deserve some BIOS magic. Just dont forget where you come from! lol.
wow i wasn't expecting that answer. what sux about it?
edit: figured out why it sux, hope you make some progress
Progress.. now theres a word that won't be too common with the TPower BIOS. Right now I'm wondering what the hell is wrong with this BIOS, I'm at 450FSB and this damn board only just cracks 8GB\s read, 9GB\s write and not even 6GB\s copy in everest results :down: With my Pro at these settings I was cracking 9GB\s across the board.
good thing i just ordered a Pro then. How do u think it will behave with the hardware i have in my sig? I'm hoping whatever bios it ships with recognizes my ram, but i guess i could always flash one of your mBIOSes with the improved memory table.. which one would that be anyway? there's so many :)
It should behave good. Rest is subjective. So trial and error.
Thx Ket for all the work you've done on the p5q series.
I am enjoying all your work :p:
As are many others :p: ppl are getting better OCs due to the work I did, I consider that a *borat impression* "GREAT SUCCESS!" :D
any success?Quote:
Originally Posted by axy1985
Sadly, I haven't gotten the time on my hands to try, although I believe the 1406 one proved to be very stable and the most "bug-free" BIOS for me. I'll flash it tomorrow and check.Quote:
Originally Posted by cachirro
However, I haven't gotten the bug for a couple of days now... I hate randomness...
i need some good bios for my P5Q Pro.
i use now 1613 bios and i can't get stable, just can't.
for more details look here: http://www.xtremesystems.org/Forums/...d.php?t=216880
so which bios do you guys recommended?
and i don't wont any troubles, i don't like modified bios so much.
so please if you give me modified one please give me some bios that people use and he's good and don't make problems.
tanks.
First of all i know english isn't your first language but it's thanks not tanks. big difference. As for the bios you just have to read thru here. since you're not willing to use modded bioses i hear the 1406 is the one to have. may not be true in all cases but i'm just going with the general consensus.Quote:
Originally Posted by PakaPaka
let us know what you try.
Ok , I am lazy. I haven't read thur all the posts yet to get my answer. I am coming over to Intel from AMD. I just have gotten tried of all there BS. The too major ones were board design and general chip design/plans.
I wanted a 45mn chip and didn't need a quad right now. This is what I have to work with from my crapped out 590 based system:
OCZ 600/650 Extrem Game PS
I brough a set of OCZ PC9200 1150 reaper (4) 1 chips.
Wanted to know which one of your mods and which board will give me the best results. I am thinking about the E8500 or E8400. The E8600 is just too much of a price jump.
I would love to finally see a 4.0 ghz system that works at FULL memory bandwith. I know I can get at least 1200mhz out of these reapers!! I have grown tried of 200 (400 whatever) monkeyed buses.
I know I need a new heatsink and maybe a Harddrive. I have a good fan which I will be getting one to do a push full setup.
Thanks for anyhelp.
ok.. and what mbios is best for asus p5q pro, now, after all.. when KET sold their p5q and stop working on mbios updates...
i still use 1613 mbios, but see that here is some updates of mbioses... my box work stable and i'm satisfied but curious if it's worth to use other (newer?) mbios versions..
what is asus official bios for p5q pro? still 1613??
your answer of the offical ASUS bios can be found by going to ASUS' website, and finding out the answer on your own. I've seen lazy people before, but your post is right up there with the best of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by xw0lf
i was just about to say the same thing. if your bios is fully stable and you have no complaints what are you wanting?!? geez go to asus' website like the rest of us would have to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
as for the other guy i can't even finish reading your post it's too convoluted. i hope english isn't your first language either.
Hey fellas, I was trying to downgrade the BIOS from 1703 to 1406, but I can't. all update programs (EZ Flash, AFUDOS) simply give an error message and wont flash. I'm going to try the update tool, but apparently, it only works with 32-bit OS...
read around the net... some user are having problems with OCing on BIOS 1703, and most cannot downgrade it either. Any ideas?
it appears i may have RMAed perfectly working RAM modules then....
EDIT: NVM, found a way. wow, apparently 1703 is somewhat broek... OC hardships, BIOS/flash detection problems, and quite frankly, some little issues that I thought were normal suddenly dissappeared when going back to 1406.... huh.
newsl1 & shota1: yes, english is not my frist language, and yes.. i no see more ignorant and :banana::banana::banana::banana:y ppl than yours....
i ask that without bad intentions, if you not want to answer shut the f*ck up... it's useless to insult me... (i know about official asus site, ofcourse, this is just question "in the row" ... no hard feelings=
Hi Ket (and others),
I am in need of some serious help on my P5Q Pro!
OK, here's my story, I setup my system about a week ago:
Antec P160W incl. 1xFront / 1xBack (Antec Tri-Cool Blue @ 79 CFM)
OCZ ModStream Pro 700W
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ASUS P5Q Pro
Intel Q6600 G0 SLACR
TRUE incl. 1xPush / 1xPull (Noctua NF-P12-1300 @ 55 CFM)
Corsair PC2-8500 Domainator 2x2GB w/ CrossFlow Fan
Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 1GB
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1xLG DVD-RW
1xSeagate 320GB OS
2xSeagate 500GB RAID0 Storage
When I setup my board, I set it up stock speeds, and right away flashed up to 1613. I prepared for the arrival by downloading all of my necessary drivers and BIOS flases on my main system -- this is going to be my saweetness gaming machine :D!
After the flash I made a successful OC to 333x9 for 3.0GHz, not a bad bump, but I've had more on these chips before (I've sold several PCs to friends always with ASUS boards). Tested OK with Memtestx86. With such a light clock, I installed my licensed copy of Vista x64 Ultimate, and got my system running great (games n' all). After in Windows, OCCT tested OK.
I decided to start playing more to try to get it up to 3.4GHz - 3.6GHz. For the life of me, I couldn't even get the board up to 366, the board would not POST (blank screen fans running and no BIOS beeps). A CMOS clear always fixed it. I know enough to keep the dividers matching up, and my memory at 1066 as it is rated. I also know enough to set the voltages: starting at 1.350 and working up to 1.425 for VCore, 2.00 and 2.10 for VDimm, and 1.3 to 1.4 for NB. Oh, and my memory timings of 5-5-5-15 for 1066.
I reset to defaults and flashed back to 1406 without any problems at all (using the KodaKey tool at its latest ver of 0.72), and played around very briefly but stuck at 333x9 for 3.0GHz. Reason being is that I was reading up online and found Ket's 1406 Modded BIOS and wanted to try it!
I reset to defaults and flashed to the 1406 Modded BIOS, and now have a blank screen with no POST again! This is on the reboot right after the flash.
I read, acknowledged, and followed the instructions from Ket:
Sometimes happens. The risk in using any of these mBIOSes is the same as flashing to a new official version. So heres some basic steps to take;
1. Set your system back to stock prior to flashing
If your system does not POST on restart;
2. Clear CMOS by removing battery and power cord, remember to set CMOS jumper to "clear" as well.
Tried those, my system still will not POST
Chances are the flash went wrong. Grab a floppy disk (doesn't need to be bootable) and put a known "good" BIOS on the floppy. Rename the BIOS file to AMIBOOT.ROM, hit the reset button and the system will read the floppy disk and automatically restore the BIOS with the one on the floppy disk. The system will restart a few times and before you know it you will be looking at the POST screen again.
So to confirm, last night, the PC sat without a battery and power cord (I held the power button until the lights went out on it) for 8 hours. Still no POST afterwards. I dropped my 1406.ROM renamed to AMIBOOT.ROM onto a floppy disk. The system does not read the floppy disk at any point during POST, not even if I hit the reset button, or hold the reset button until PWR goes out. I tried dropping the AMIBOOT.ROM onto an empty flash stick, same thing. A last ditch effort, I made a bootable floppy, dropped MiniDOS / AFUDOS / AMIBOOT.ROM and a custom AUTOEXEC.BAT onto the floppy to try. No go! Desperate, I even tried a different floppy drive, floppy cable, and a different PSU connector!
Oh, during system startup, I also tried to force a flash using CTRL-HOME without luck. I think that I am fubar'd! I have been working and building PCs for 10 years, I've never screwed up a BIOS flash on anything, let alone my own equipment (heck I ran a custom BIOS on my MSI Neo2 Platinum and DFI NF4 SLI-DR Expert)!
My PC won't boot, what do I do? HELP, PLEASE!
YES, I know I am asking for a Miracle ;) :p:! I don't want to return for RMA and wait for 4 weeks......argh!
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Thank You,
Jonathan
Technical Writer for LAN Addict!
Informations Technology Agent for Zycom Technology Inc.
Let's face the obvious. Yesterday we were nerds. Today we're the cognitive elite. Let's conquer. - Chester G. Edwards
Hey xw0lf,Quote:
Originally Posted by xw0lf
The latest official BIOS for the P5Q Pro is the 1613 still.
I hear a lot of good news about the 1406 that was released by ASUS, it's still available on their site, but is useless because their software won't allow you to 'flash back'.
You'll have to use KodaKey's tool at its latest ver of 0.72 -- which includes this 1406 BIOS. The USB key is easy to make, and easy to use as well!
On another note, with the 1406 being so popular, Ket's modded 1406 looks very promising (now ... if only I could get it to work on my system :|!)!
hey, dont tell people that have been here for LONG LONG LONG time, to shut the **** up. Your question was pointless, and if you read thru, lets see......the last 3 pages, you can find all your answers. Have some respect for us citizens of this community. We are here to help, this is not Hardocp, nvnews.net, and other forums that are full of punk a*s kids that spend mommys money, but rather a community full of ADULTS that contribute here, and care! I have made a watercooler for people here, making hardly any-to-no profit what so ever, I JUST DID IT FOR THIS COMMUNTIY:up:. For you to have a post count of "2", and being to lazy to go to asus.com to find your answer in 30 seconds, surely tells us that your "one of them". I think you should come back saying something like, "your right" or maybe even, I was out of place saying what I said" and I will reply to you and say, HAPPY TO HAVE YOU IN THE COMMUNITY, AND ENJOY YOUR STAY:welcome:. Other then that, why stay here, cause we will run you off.Quote:
Originally Posted by xw0lf
ok ok
nice to meet you
this last one is written with more respect ... tnx
and sorry for my last one...
:)
It sounds like default voltage to your memory isn't enough. If the BIOS flash was fubar the floppy method would get you going again. can you get your hands on a el cheapo stick of RAM that works with 1.8v? Tried only 1 stick of RAM in different slots?Quote:
Originally Posted by jbruneau
now that we're all friends i'm just gonna give a little info regrading wolf's posts. i just got my board 30 min ago and it came with bios version 1613. First oc attempt @3.0 was successful so i guess i'll just try this out for awhile. wolf i'd recommend that you stick with the version you have since you're happy with it.
I follow thru with what I say, so here it goes. Welcome to the forums:welcome:. Can I do anything to assist you?Quote:
Originally Posted by xw0lf
Hey Ket,Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Thanks for your prompt reply, and assistance! You'll be a life saver if you can get me working :D!
I haven't tried these sticks individually in any of the slots. Never came to my mind, seeing it was working fine with stock / 1613 / and 1406 ;)!
Also, should I be using Black or Yellow slots?
I've always used the Black slots on ASUS boards, as even back in the 478 days, these were 'supposedly' the ones to use. Ya know the old rule, use the slots furthest away from the CPU ;)!
I've been reading up, and heard varying contradictory responses on that one.
Where's my warm welcome .... DAMMIT ;) :p:??!!Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
Welcome buddy:welcome:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbruneau
I feel like a door greeter at walmart LOL
Thank You, newls1 :D!Quote:
Originally Posted by newls1
Hopefully I can get things squared away with this board ... not looking good :|
Hey Ket,Quote:
Originally Posted by jbruneau
Here's an update on the board situation:
- I tried both sticks of memory in all 4 slots, independently.
- I tried a USB floppy drive, pressed reset, but still no recovery.
I use a wireless keyboard and mouse primarily, the "F" key turns on and off, and also the "NUMLOCK" key turns on and off. I tried a wired PS/2 keyboard, during boot, the "NUMLOCK" key will not turn on or off. Also, CTRL+HOME does not force a BIOS Recovery on the wired keyboard.
I'm at a loss man. Argh!
Hey gals and guys,
where is my welcome? :D
Sorry Ket, I don't wanna bug you, but I am just too curious:
I know, you stopped working on the BIOS for P5Q-series, but if it would be possible, wouldn't it be a lovely challenge? :yepp:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dionysos
For sure its a strange one. All mBIOSes work great, flashed em to my own Pro before releasing them. I would try yellow and black slots. yellow seemed to work good with my gkx sticks but black may be the better slots to use. Deffinately worth trying a el cheapo memory stick if you can, some sticks just wont work with 1.8v. Point in case, my gkx sticks work fine on 1.8v in my pro, but in the tpower they need about 2v.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbruneau
Probably not impossible, but very time consuming. Right now the TPower needs my help much more. Not sure just how much I can do for it though. Some things the TPower needs changing are very complex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dionysos
Hmm, not sure if I can get my hands on a set of 1.8v sticks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Maybe borrow some from a spare machine at work, perhaps........no one will know (I'm the IT guy, rofl!)
I'll see what I can do on Monday.
i cant get q9400 to post on p5q-pro
1 stick ram; 8-pin power in; all stock jumpers; stock cpu V also tried upping V slightly...
stock 8x multi.
board came with 1306, i updated to 1613.; starts for a sec then powers down, both bios's
i taken cpu back to reseller, so i guess they can frig around with it. :/
mobo works fine with e4300 :/ ffs my first quad and i cannot even get it to post :p: & now i flashed this 1613, people saying i cant go back to an earlier bios :upset:
the q9400 is R0 stepping.
Shouldn't need to play with voltage at stock, the board will detect it (well, read it from the CPU, because Intel codes the req'd voltage to run at stock right into the chip). Also known as its stock VID.Quote:
Originally Posted by adamsleath
The chip sounds like it's DOA, unfortunately, if another chip works in the board.
Anyways, as for rolling back to a previous BIOS, it is definitely do-able but not with any stock ASUS software. Use a freeware piece of software called the KodaKey tool at its latest ver of 0.72. Google ;)!
Works great, and I speak from experience. I went to 1406 without any problems on a Q6600 :)!
Sounds like your Quad is DOA. :( Hope your next Q works as it should :up: Somewhere in this thread is also various means that have been detailed to get away from 1613. My preferred method is to simply make a boot disk, put the BIOS you want and afudos on the disk and flash from DOS.
what's wrong with 1613 again?
Anyone know which of the P5Q Deluxe Bioses is best for High FSB??? I am currently on 1702m Bios and I can't seem to go above 465. Two cpu's I have had both have problems crossing 465 with this bios. As soon as I go above 465 even with a 6 multi and same voltage I don't even boot, so i am left with the conclusion that's it's the bios or mb or both. Any help would be appreciated.
Currently running E8500 with these settings:
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 9.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 458
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1100
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge:15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Performance Level : 8
Everything Disabled
4th Information :
CPU Voltage: 1.34375
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .630
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .670
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled : Seemed to really help lower voltages and stabilize things in windows. Had to run over 1.375 in bios with this off because of V droop.
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance Level
0803 and 1406 were the more stable biosses for me mate
http://users.telenet.be/OAP/P5QDlx/600FSB32Mbpi.JPG
7 x 600 for the CPU and PL 11-12 though ( if I recall correctly )
temp bug happens on 1406 as well, dont know if as often as on 1703. still, 1406 is way better than 1703 for me, bug or no bug.Quote:
Originally Posted by cachirro
Asus messed something up or deliberately did something, which makes reverting to a earlier version BIOS awkward (but by no means impossible)Quote:
Originally Posted by shoota
Tried ur bios but it lowerd my oc with 200mhz :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Either i have had a very bad luck or this is a real piece of a :banana::banana::banana::banana:. It could do 400fsb with a little luck and cold air and fans everywhere, now sitting in my chassi it locks up above 360fsb:rofl: GJ asus:down:
I have a p5q regular..
A regular P5Q is hardly a good choice for OCing...
Ah crap, I just borked my board last night.
Being totally irresponsible (I was meaning on continuing my homework but wanted to see how far my P5Q Pro + E8400 would overclock) I tried flashing my 1613m BIOS to an earlier unmodified BIOS using KodaKey tool. It worked, so I tried flashing to Ket's newest "enhanced" mBIOS.
Guess what, after it said "Your system will restart in 5 seconds" the system restarted and I had a blank screen.
So I tried powering it down and pressing the power button. Same thing.
Then I tried clearing the CMOS (remove power cable, battery, move jumper, wait 1hr, move jumper back, put battery back in, connect everything back) and that did nothing.
So I thought maybe it was my RAM. I then put in a cheap, 1.8V rated stick... still nothing! Crap!
Just now, I tried using the AMIBOOT.ROM suggestion and I cannot get it working. My keyboard (PS/2) doesn't boot up with any lights, so nothing is working.
Looks like I'll have to RMA this thing. Damn. :shakes:
Oh great.. read reviews on it and then it seemed good.. First and last time asus then...:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimpleTECH
I said to use that BIOS with extreme caution as I hadn't tested that one, silly boy :p: I'll remove it just in case theres something bunk with it.
It's cool Ket.
I'm going to go order a new P5Q Pro anyways as I need this computer up and running this week.
I've had good luck with your mBIOS's though. It was probably just a small bug in that last one that might have caused my motherboard to brick.
Out of hundreds of motherboard flashes, I just happened to screw one up. :hitself:
Same thing happened to me, bud :confused:..Quote:
Originally Posted by SimpleTECH
Except, I was using the 1406 modded BIOS, and it went bonkerz.
Tried a different floppy drive, cables, power connectors but no go there.
Today I tried swapping out the video card and power supply, but still no go (I had another system do the SAME thing and it was the 12v rail on the PSU blown).
It's either the RAM, CPU, or MOBO. Don't think it's the ram, tried each stick in all 4 slots.
All 3 of the above components are brand new.
I can't get my hands on RAM or a CPU until Tuesday. Argh!
I think it's the board though, I'm arranging an RMA with the purchaser.
jbruneau, glad to know that there is someone else with the same issue. :buddies:
I'm about to order another one from Newegg, and then RMA this one soon after.
Just sucks that I messed up something so stupidly, I mean if I was doing my college homework.. this would have never happened. :brick:
Any nice memory sticks to go with my P5Q vanilla? I'm currently using 1611 mbios, ocing 333 x 9 @ 1.425v Any suggestions for me to go higher? (assume enough cooling)
How high fsb can u achive? and with what cpu?Quote:
Originally Posted by comsci
I have a E6600(65nm) and the highest fsb I've got was around 350. Should I go for the later E8400/E8500(45nm, lower voltage) for better results? 400 x 9 seems to me a dream. Please see the cpu-z pix.Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman89
Any idea how I can go back to 1406 from 1702? I tried in bios and told me I couldn't do it because of an older version. Then I tried with asus update and told me its got a different checksum or something like that and wouldn't let me do it.:down:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1460Quote:
Originally Posted by vrdublu
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...postcount=1542
I prefer Koda's flashing tool as it does a through wipe of the bios bootblock... most users flash biosses when they got issues with ram , not happy of the current stability... I absolutely avoid flashing in windows, but to each his own...Quote:
Originally Posted by vrdublu
Koda's ASUS Flashing Tool
Quote:
Originally Posted by SimpleTECH
What I did was to order a replacement bios chip for my Pro. It's a lot cheaper and easier than removing the board for replacement or rma. You can also get your existing borked chip re-flashed by this company if you don't want to do a hot flash with another working chip:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbruneau
www.biosman.com
Thank you Duncan and oooops Leeghoofd !!Quote:
Originally Posted by DuncanOc
p.s. the Asus update doesn't support Vista
it does, that's exactly how i downgraded. download the vista version. however, i believe 64 bit Vista is not supported.
I just tried again, and it tells me theres no support for this OS or it tells me theres no Asus MB present ??????, I don't know what else to try right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by axy1985
Yep,the 61002 ver doesn't support vista, only XP:( The newer versions doesn't support downgradeQuote:
Originally Posted by vrdublu
axy1985,what version of Asus update have you used to downgrade on Vista??:confused:
Huh? The latest version doesn't support Vista, but older version do? WTH...Quote:
Originally Posted by DuncanOc
anyway, I used an earlier version, cause thats the info I found. Here's the one I used:
http://www.jmax-hardware.com/docman/...ownload-2.html. Doesn't support 64-bit tho.
Hop eyou get it fixed like i did :)
thanks man this version work for me very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by axy1985
but i advise to use afudos from dos better
i got the chance to trade my board for a GA-EP45-UD3R, think i might give it a shot. everyone seems to say 45nm quads clock better on it.
think i should swap my p5q-e?
Well I got it flashed back to 1406 but still no luck getting over 458 fsb with any consistency. I am able to boot and get no errors in Vista's mem check but still I get bsod in windows, can't figure out why I can't seem to get over 500fsb, I should be able to do this easily with this combo ??? I could really use some help.
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 7
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1000
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge:15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: AUTO
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: AUTO
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Performance Level : 8
Everything Disabled
4th Information :
CPU Voltage: 1.34375
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2):
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3):
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26 - Now I need 1.32 or so
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.26
NB GTL Reference: AUTO
SBridge Voltage: auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled : Seemed to really help lower voltages and stabilize things in windows. Had to run over 1.375 in bios with this off because of V droop.
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Performance Level
This is prime blend stable for 24+ hours
Not done tweaking yet. Still need to look at the skews for cpu, NB, and dram
AI Overclock tuner: Manual
CPU Ratio Setting: 7.5
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 333
FSB Frequency: 560
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 1122
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge:15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: DISABLED
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Performance Level : 10
Everything Disabled
4th Information :
CPU Voltage: 1.36
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): .620
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): .660
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.60
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 1.92
NB Voltage: 1.32
NB GTL Reference: .580
SBridge Voltage: 1.20
PCIE SATA Voltage: 1.60
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Thank you kind Sir, I will give it a ty and report back.
Well, to compound my theory, I tested the last 2 components to make sure:Quote:
Originally Posted by jbruneau
- Tried a E2140 1.6GHz 800Mhz FSB CPU (known good) but no go
- Tried a 1x1GB DDR-667 1.8v stick of RAM but no go
It's definitely the board, crappy crap crap!
I still haven't heard back from ASUS, 30 hours now, I'm getting antsy!
I just want a BIOS chip. I was tempted to hotflash one using Koda's tool back to 1406 Standard but can't find another board that uses a DIP-8 BIOS! WTF?!
I won't buy a new BIOS chip at 30-40 bucks Canadian when ASUS can send me one for free! :mad:
Okay, soo, mayybe pride is getting in the way a little bit ;) :p:!
Why doesn't anyone use the KodaKey tool?Quote:
Originally Posted by hema
Easy as pie to setup!
A USB key, 1GB, there goes 2 bucks. Upgradable, just keep dropping new BIOS Installers onto it (I even made a few of my own custom BIOS Installers using Ket's modded BIOS -- for my own personal use of course).
Just grab the Telechargement and both Fast Updates.
Format USB key in FAT (not FAT32). Extract all 3 of the packages to the key. Run the script in the INSTALL dir to drop the Linux Bootloader onto the key.
I could explain how to open up one of the IMZ (it's just a compressed image) files, save it as the your name, inject the new BIOS, and then add the script to the installer? If anyone's curious...
AI Overclock tuner: ManualQuote:
Originally Posted by gergregg
CPU Ratio Setting: 8
FSB Strap to North Bridge: 400
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 100
DRAM Frequency: 100
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1: AUTO
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2: AUTO
DRAM Timing Control: Manual
1st Information :
CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay:5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge:15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : AUTO
Row Refresh Cycle Time: AUTO
Write Recovery Time: AUTO
Read to Precharge Time: AUTO
2nd Information :
READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): AUTO
Write to Read Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to READ Delay (D): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (S): AUTO
READ to READ Delay (D): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): AUTO
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): AUTO
3rd Information :
WRITE to PRE Delay: AUTO
READ to PRE Delay: AUTO
PRE to PRE Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: AUTO
ALL PRE to REF Delay: AUTO
DRAM Static Read Control: DISABLED
DRAM Read Training: DISABLED
MEM. OC Charger: Enabled
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: Manual
Performance Level : 10
Everything Disabled
4th Information :
CPU Voltage: 1.35
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (0/2): Auto
CPU GTL Voltage Reference (1/3): Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.26
DRAM Voltage: 2.10
NB Voltage: 1.40
NB GTL Reference: Auto
SBridge Voltage: Auto
PCIE SATA Voltage: Auto
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: disabled
CPU Clock Skew : Auto
NB Clock Skew : Auto
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized
Ok I played a little more with it and it seems it's the NB Voltage holdinh me back, it's seems to need alot of juice once I pass 500fsb. At 458 I boot and run great with 1.26 but you see how how I need to go just to get into Windows at 500. 1.38 got me as close as the scrolling bar before windows, anything below that gets me into the splash screen as the computer starts up I think that's the xpress gate splash screen. Now I'm running Orthos small to see if it's the Cpu, highly unlikely, but anything is possible. I have booted at 1.26 and 500fsb before which makes this all the more confusing, I can't figure this out, now I need 1.4. Do I just keep pumping in the juice till she craps out?? I have been here before and I start getting mem errors once I go to high on the NB voltage. The other interesting thing is that I can't boot at a lower dram frequency then 1100 even at 458 fsb, if I set it to 931 with a fsb of 333 or 400 then it won't boot. Alot of strange things happening that don't make any sense to me. Any other ideas what I can do next to get this to 550??
I wouldn't. 470 on a quad is already pretty high.Quote:
Originally Posted by axy1985
G'day Ket!
I just wanted to thank you for your bios (p5q-d 1406m.rom) the one that uses the latest M2F memory table.
I was about to sell my P5Q Deluxe, because it wouldn't work with the new patriot 1200mhz 5-5-5-12 ram I bought a while ago, wouldn't even post/boot/turn on with these new sticks in it. I really like this board, but it seems ASUS aren't exactly supportive of there products.
I updated to the latest ASUS BIOS (1702) first. I've been hearing a lot of bad reports about it, but I thought maybe it'd work out good for me. Err wrong! Was a total mess, wouldn't even boot with relaxed overclocked settings.
I did know about your BIOS's, but like most sane people BIOS's are pretty scary things you _DONT_ want to completely break! Though I knew I could swap the BIOS chips on the board, if I completely screwed it up.
So late last night I went ahead and flashed it with said BIOS, reset bios and removed battery for a minute, and bingo the damn thing thing booted up, So I went to the BIOS set memory to 1200mhz (4-4-4-12 (didn't actually look at the timings, at first I was just stocked the thing didn't crash and burn.)) and it booted up stable as a rock. All I can say it OMFG! I am in love with this board once again, and have taken my Ebay listing down now! Which was going so well too :P
I'd like to donate some money to thank you for your work, if you have a paypal.. This post was just going to be a small thank you haha!
By the way I just used an older version of the Asus windows BIOS updater (6.07.01) to reverse the 1702 mess, went straight from 1702 to your BIOS all within windows 7. What can I say.. :P
Also stumbled upon this where ASUS keeps all versions of there Utilities & Tools was helpful for m,e so probably would be helpful for someone else as well!
First off, i've searched up and down this forum regarding info on the P5Q SE/R... there's nothing.
I would like to know if anyone has successfully flashed any of these BIOSes to that model of mobo. From what i've seen, the only differences between the vanilla p5q and the se/r are reduced power usage and different slots. BIOS settings seem the same.
The reason I ask is because this e7200 can boot into windows stable at 3.8 with 475FSB. I would like to make it an even 4ghz at 500fsb and these BIOSes might be what i need to achieve that...
Glad the BIOS is working for you :up: I don't have a paypal account, so "thankyou" donations aren't possible. The reason I don't have a payapl account in itself is a rather long story if told in full :p: In a nutshell paypal tried screwing me some time ago, since then I will not use them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goonit
I have not modded any BIOS code for any P5Q board except whats listed. I wouldn't try using any of these BIOSes on a board they aren't meant for.Quote:
Originally Posted by motox
I know what you mean man, lots of people get stuffed around by paypal. I've got a premium account and am yet to be screwed by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
A HUGE THANK YOU, TO YOU THEN!! :D
You have done things that ASUS, as a huge multi-million dollar company hasn't.. What the fu*ks up with that? Seriously.. Every other P45 board I tested this ram on worked fine, but not mine..
I hope you still continue to do the odd bit of work on the P5Q BIOS's, as I'm sure a lot of people are very appreciative of your work.
Will keep you posted when I get a bit more time to play with this BIOS.
:up: I may do a little more work on the P5Q series BIOS, but right now I'm looking at the TPower.. its BIOS is crap. Not sure what I can really do to it but any small improvements are good improvements for the TPower I guess.
ya. Definitely not going to try flashing unless its been confirmed to work by someone who CAN risk bricking their board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
That's good to hear! Don't leave us behind like ASUS has done somewhat.
I was looking at getting the Tpower I45 when I had my mindset on getting rid of this P5Q.. But there's only like* 2 Biostar retailers in Australia! And they're as expensive as the top of the line boards. Lol :)
Why doesn't ASUS use the largest memory table possible with all motherboards? What is sacrificed to get all this memory compatibility.. ?
Absolutely nothing. Its just Asus skimping in part of an attempt to MAKE you buy the more expensive boards, after all, they don't make as much money do they if lower end boards are as equal as possible ;)
I've noticed a similar issue on my P5Q-Deluxe past 500FSB (mBIOSes 1702 and whichever was the last version I used, 1406?). I tested this last night at 4.6GHz (9 x 511) and it ran the Folding @ Home SMP and GPU clients stably all night, no problems whatsoever (PCIe bus at 100MHz, vCore at 1.325v, vFSB at 1.3v, vNB at 1.4v, both GTLrefs at .67), then when I started playing WoW within just a few minutes the machine freezes and then the display goes out but it isn't a BSoD. Just seems odd that even loading the video card with FAH doesn't induce a crash, but a relatively old game like WoW does...might be a bandwidth issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ket
At 499FSB now and it's stable as a bird, but I would like more FSB and can't figure out why it's doing this. Just thought I'd post that experience since it seems remarkably similar to what your board does (or did...that post of yours is a little old).
My Pro still does that. One thing which didn't occur to me at the time to try was switching which memory slots my D9GKX modules were in. When I put that system back together I'll see if using the black slots make any difference.
well after i flashed from 1416 to 1406 on my P5Q Pro,
i can tell you that 1406 is pretty much stable then 1416.
on 4.05GHZ 450*9 stable something like a week without crashes.
Thanx man, works like a charm:up::cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by axy1985
Update: the issue still seems to happen below 500FSB. No idea what the issue is.
I am guessing that your overclock is not stable and it is as simple as that.Quote:
Originally Posted by YMAA
Lower your FSB.