:cool: I have been reading and monitoring this thread for a loooooooooooooong time and thought it was time to give my (our) 10 months of FACTS and info to all the problems, issues and posts in this unacceptably huge thread. Nothing I will state is opinion or hear say, it's all fact. Listen up:
1) It took over six months to actually register with Xtremesystems. ALL emails are hacked and intentionally messed up when regestering and/or giving feedback to admins via this forum pages alone.. This is done intentionally by the kids who run this forum. So... beware.
2) GTJ I believe has given up on this thread. Either because the same things are ask and repeated over and over and over, and no research is done by posters first, or for other reasons. WHERE YOU BEEN BOY?. His guide for the d975xbx2 had not been update as stated forever (COU compatibility), and some of the info contained in it is not factual and theroetical only. We built and spent over $2500 cash money on a new system based on some of the info contained in it, and it's BS.
3) Starting as of December 2006, and with a relable , educated, over 30 inside contact within Intel, the direct question was asked to Intel at the corporate and engineering level for end-users and consumers of the compatibility and engineering of the d975xbx2 and the (then) upcomming E series processors. Spercifically if the Bad Axe 2 is engineered and will (would be) specifically manufactured for the E6850. NOTE THIS: regardless of the email Customer Service rep you or anyone would get a response from, or a telephone response from a CS rep, it is all mostly 100% BS and a direct ruse by Intel at the highest levels. Intel, in 22 different phone calls, and 17 emails to and from Intel CS in 9 months, was (and always will be) rude, unspecific, and directly misleading to the paying end-user. The recent post to this thread about Intel briefly (and mistakenly) showing the E6850 being on the CPU compability list was, yet again, a ploy by Intel to give end-users a possible glimmer of hope that the 1330fsb processors would be 100% compatible with the d975xbx2. IT IS NOT, whether you as a paying end user can get one to work with the Bad Axe 2 or not... Intel's direct engineering and intent is to make you, the paying DIY consumer, do its decades worth of historical BS and have to buy another new motherboard that INTEL WILL SHOW ON ITS MOTHERBOARD AND PROCESSOR COMPATIBILITY LISTS ONLY.
4) A good example that Intel has rused and BS's us all again on the d975xbx2, for about the 9th time in almost two decades, is this: http://www.hardwarezone.com/articles...240&cid=2&pg=1. There are many many other articles and proof that can easily be found via the publically viewed web alone. The Bad Axe 2 could (and can) easily be 100% compatible with their 1333 fsb standard. But that is not Intel's intent to the paying consumer and end user. They are INTENTIONALLY wanting and making us buy more mid-term valueless motherboards and products from them. They INTENTIONALLY, solely, and directly will only offically support the 1333fsb and E0 series processors on their new and overpriced X38 chipsets. Period. Bad Axe 2 owners have been duped, and suckered again by Intel.
5) Quality control: I (personally) am on the third d975xbx2 in 4 months. Posters here that state they have the rev. 505 of this overpriced motherboard have mostly either had to scope out and buy one retail from a in-store vendor, or worked their butt off to try and get a rev. 505 from a etailer. It is not easy. My first Bad Axe 2 as of Feb 07 was from Newegg, and it was a rev 504. At Bios stock, and stock speeds, it completely fried a E6600 (@ stock speeds) with in a month. CPU and board were all at 32c, etc. Second board was a rev 505 and was lucky to get it. Brand new out-of-the box retail, a major capacitor was rolling around loose in the anti-static bag and was never soldiered to the board during manufacturing. it was shipped our from the "Intel factory" anyway. Third board now using is a rev 504 with Bios 2777. Plain jane with half the performance it should have for the cost. Using a good friend who is over 30 with a Masters In Electrical Engineering (who works for Hughes Aircraft in L.A.) on a literal day-today basis, this board, bios, and hardware has been tweaked continually. DO NOT SUCCUM TO THE REVIEWS FROM CHEERLEADER SITES LIKE ANANDTECH, EXTREEMTECH, etc etc thinking their credibility is better than end users here on this forum. They are not.
a) Intel continually changes the Chineese manufaturing factories they contract their services from. Intel will has never and will never tell you in any way shape or form where your d975xbx2 Bad Axe 2 motherboard is actually made. Thier Bearlake x38 will be worse. Thier quality control gets worse every year due to this money making and 'keep the stock price rising" scheme from Intel at the corporate level. FACT: All you can ever be sure of for manufaturing and quality control from Intel is that your motherboard (and other Intel products) are made by literal slave labor Chinese little girls working 12 or more hours a day, 6 days a week, for slave labor wages, with no talking what-so-ever, away from home alone in boarding house slum conditions (confirmed). Their mind is NOT on getting the soilders right and the motherboard they have thier hands on at the time of manufacturer; their mind is on home and family and the poor living conditions and low wages they are making... Intel is fully aware of this, and is bad if not worse than Walmart.
6) We intentionally put two sticks of Crucial Ballistix DDR2-1000 PC8000 in our THIRD Bad Axe 2, to supress any engineering flaws and (this) forum feedback about memory problems. No wonder you kids and other (rare) over 30 adult users have so many memory compatibility problems with stock DDR2 667 sticks. The Bad Axe 2 with ANY revision or Bios version runs at BASIC compatibility speeds with our better memory, and no overclocked stock latencies 667 memory 'barely" works...Intel's QVL (Qualified Vendor List) for the Bad Axe 2 memory requirements is a complete joke, and always will be. The x38 release will be worse. It's a complete hit-and-miss at the end users consumers expense (YOU!). Our un named Intel engineer contact states there have always been "inter office" rumors that Intel's offical testing for thier motherboard memory qualification is quote: "...very little actual confirmation and testing, and mostly kickbacks from memory stick manufactuers themselves..." unquote. This is yet again a (confirmed) Intel engineering problem. Intel, unlike U.S. auto makers that are forced to do so by the US government, will NEVER recall and replace any of thier motherboards or products on a mass scale due to defects. So, before you use your food money, house or car payments, or college tuition to buy 4 gigs of 1333fsb bus memory to run Windows Vista on a new Intel x38 motherboard, RE-THINK your addiction. It's been the same story with Intel and memory compatibility for decades.
7) This thread alone now shows over 165 pages of threads and posts. No common visitor to this thread will, or ever will be able to digest or cosume all the user posts for a post/thread this big. Xtremesystems needs to limit ANY thread to say 10 or 20 pages max, as the common poster and reader of this thread is 25 years of age or younger, and does not have the time or the intelligence level to read and research a thread/post this big, nor will do so out of lifestyle. There needs to be at least 10 NEW POSTS THREADS that break down the contents of this thread alone, directly applying to the d975xbx2. GTJ where are you.
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