ASUS Maximus II Formula - new P45 king?

Hi everyone my first post and im stoked to be part of the forums. Big thanks to Ghostleader to get me to to 4.0 with this board. %100 stable

Mobo - Asus Maximus II Formula

Cpu - E8500 ( Zalman 9700 Cooler )

Ram - 2x2gig 8500 OCZ Reaper

Video - Vapour X 4890

PSU - 1200w Coolermaster


Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
Ratio CMOS Setting [9]
FSB Frequency [450]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [Normal]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [333]
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-1081]

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 [Auto]

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay [5]
DRAM RAS# Precharge [5]
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge [15]

The rest of memory setting is at manual timings

DRAM Static Read Control [Auto]
DRAM Read Training [Auto]
MEM. OC Charger [Auto]
Ai Clock Twister [Strong]
Ai Transaction Booster [Manual]
Common Performance 8


PCIE Frequency [100]

CPU Voltage [1.3250]
CPU PLL Voltage [~1.50]
FSB Termination Voltage [~1,30]
DRAM Voltage [~2,20]
North Bridge Voltage [~1,35]
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage [~1,50,one step above auto]
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage [~1,10, one step above auto]

CPU GTL Reference (0) [Auto]
CPU GTL Reference (1) [-40]
CPU GTL Reference (2) [Auto]
CPU GTL Reference (3) [Auto]
NB GTL Reference [-40]
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge DDR Reference [Auto]


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting [9]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
Intel Virtualization Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]

Load-Line Calibration [Enabled]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

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try this

Extreme Tweaker
Ai Overclock Tuner : Manual
OC From CPU Level Up : AUTO
CPU Ratio Control : Manual
- Ratio CMOS Setting : 9.0
FSB Frequency : 450
CPU Clock Skew : Normal
North Bridge Clock Skew : Normal
FSB Strap to North Bridge : 333
DRAM Frequency: DDR2-900
Dram Clock Skew CH1 A1 : Normal
DRAM Clock Skew CH1 A2 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B1 : Normal
Dram Clock Skew CH1 B2 : Normal


DRAM Timing Control: Manual
CAS# Latency : 5
RAS# to CAS# Delay : 5
RAS# Precharge : 5
RAS# ActivateTime : 15
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time : 55
Write Recovery Time : 6
Read to Precharge Time : 3

Read to Write Delay (S/D) : 8
Write to Read Delay (S) : 3
Write to Read Delay (D) : 5
Read to Read Delay (S) : 4
Read to Read Delay (D) : 6
Write to Write Delay (S) : 4
Write to Write Delay (D) : 6

Write to PRE Delay : 14
Read to PRE Delay : 5
PRE to PRE Delay : 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay : 5
ALL PRE to REF Delay : 5

DRAM Static Read Control: Enabled
Dram Read Training : Enabled
MEM OC Charger : Disabled
Ai Clock Twister : Stronger
Transaction Booster : Manual

Common Performance Level [10]

Pull-In of CHA PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHA PH5 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH1 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH2 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH3 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH4 Disabled
Pull-In of CHB PH5 Disabled

PCIE Frequency : 101

CPU Voltage : Whatever your CPU needs
CPU PLL Voltage : 1.50
FSBT : 1.33850
DRAM Voltage : 2.12
North Bridge Voltage : 1.39150
South Bridge Voltage 1.5 : 1.5
South Bridge Voltage 1.1 : 1.1

CPU GTL Reference 0 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 1 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 2 : AUTO
CPU GTL Reference 3 : AUTO
North Bridge GTL Reference : AUTO
DDR2 Channel A REF Voltage : AUTO
DDR2 Channel B REF Voltage : AUTO
North Bridge DDR Reference : AUTO

Load Line Calabration : Enabled
CPU Sread Spectrum : Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum : Disabled

It's only 450 FSB / 4.05 GHz on a dual core, it shouldn't need such high Vtt.

1.1 - 1.25v Vtt range should be fine.

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Originally Posted by CryptiK

It's only 450 FSB / 4.05 GHz on a dual core, it shouldn't need such high Vtt.

1.1 - 1.25v Vtt range should be fine.

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I cant do all the work, he can fine tune the volts once the chip is stable

Thanks guys will try those settings and report back thanks heaps for the help I appreciate it.

Prime 95 fails within 10seconds. LOL I'm really pulling my hair out im a bit lost.

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Originally Posted by Hurtn4ASquirtn

Hi everyone my first post and im stoked to be part of the forums. I'm hoping someone can give me help to overclock my E8500 to 4.0 with this board. Any help is much appreciated here are my specs.

Mobo - Asus Maximus II Formula

Cpu - E8500 ( Zalman 9700 Cooler )

Ram - 2x2gig 8500 OCZ Reaper

Video - Vapour X 4890

PSU - 1200w Coolermaster

I have tried a few different things, On the settings below I lasted 1 hour and 6 mins before fatal error in prime 95. FATAL ERROR: Rounding was 0.5, expected less than 0.4 ( Is this a ram related error ? ) I have a bit of idea what im doing with the voltages but that's about it. ( Below is someone template I copied ) Please help where am I going wrong.

Ai Overclock Tuner [Manual]
OC From CPU Level Up [Auto]
Ratio CMOS Setting [9]
FSB Frequency [450]
CPU Clock Skew [Delay 100ps]
NB Clock Skew [Normal]
FSB Strap to North Bridge [Auto]
DRAM Frequency [DDR2-900MHz]

DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A1 [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel A2 [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B1 [Auto]
DRAM CLK Skew on Channel B2 [Auto]

DRAM Timing Control [Manual]
CAS# Latency [5]
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay [5]
DRAM RAS# Precharge [5]
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge [15]

The rest of memory setting is at auto

DRAM Static Read Control [Disabled]
DRAM Read Training [Disabled]
MEM. OC Charger [Disabled]
Ai Clock Twister [Auto]
Ai Transaction Booster [Auto]

PCIE Frequency [100]

CPU Voltage [1.3625]
CPU PLL Voltage [~1.50]
FSB Termination Voltage [~1,30]
DRAM Voltage [~2,20]
North Bridge Voltage [~1,40]
South Bridge 1.5 Voltage [~1,50,one step above auto]
South Bridge 1.1 Voltage [~1,10, one step above auto]

CPU GTL Reference (0) [Auto]
CPU GTL Reference (1) [-40]
CPU GTL Reference (2) [Auto]
CPU GTL Reference (3) [Auto]
NB GTL Reference [-40]
DDR2 ChA Reference Voltage [Auto]
DDR2 ChB Reference Voltage [Auto]
North Bridge DDR Reference [Auto]


CPU Configuration:

Ratio CMOS Setting [9]
C1E Support [Disabled]
Max CPUID Value Limit [Disabled]
Intel Virtualization Tech [Disabled]
CPU TM Function [Disabled]
Execute Disable Bit [Disabled]

Load-Line Calibration [Enabled, if disabled you may have to raise CPU voltage with 0,04v]
CPU Spread Spectrum [Disabled]
PCIE Spread Spectrum [Disabled]

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you could see it .... ( Moliere language )

http://kio74.skyrock.com/2.html

I've taken out my MIIF and am trying a P5Q-Dlx from work over the weekend for comparison's sake. It seems to be very similar although I think I'm gonna be able to push further with this.
It's interesting how the pullins work with this board and ket's modded bios but not with the m2f - would it be at all easy to perhaps do the same for the m2f given that they're similar boards? Lack of temp & voltage monitoring is quite a downside, and I'm missing the little LCD screen too.
MIIF will go back in next week though and looking forward to getting back to it as during the board changeover, I discovered a big load of gunk in my CPU block, and temps have plummeted as a result. Not sure if it was growth over the past year or a result in using some pretty poor quality anti-freeze! I dread to think what has built up in my radiator! Any good advice on how to flush all this out?

Yes there is a guide here somewhere, involves 2 different types of vinegar.

Cheers Humey, that's a good keyword to search for :)

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/sho...t=rad+cleaning

Oooh, just spotted this! Has anyone tried it? Any improvemets? Don't remember seeing it talked about in this thread..

yeah he did a 1307 mod bios nothing to get excited about, all he does is copy a memory table .....

No gain, All MF II Bioses are crap (all claim better memory support not much more).

Cant fix what Asus don't add to it, Memory support (look at list) is poor, many that can run 1200mhz sticks on other Mobos will not do so on MF II and the Pulls In's have never worked so WTF is point in putting them on Mobo and in the Bios lol.

Quite right, I heard that some of the modded bios fixed them on the P5Q which was the only reason I got my hopes up a little. Still, the P5Q-D seems to go well at 457*8 which was a lot harder to get on the MIIF. Havent even bothered with gtls, mainly because I haven't tried to work out their equivalent from the MIIF settings. Would moving +/- 5 mv on the MIIF be the same as x0.635/x0.625 (given that x0.630 is standard on GTL0/2)?

It is indeed frustrating to spend this much money on the MIIF only to discover Asus' support is getting very shabby. I'll probably go DFI or Gigabyte next time around, but that won't be until I think about going i9 or something better - I've spent far too much money & time on all this and must use my PC more :) I've gotta say that new Foxconn P55 board looks mighty sweet though!

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Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Quite right, I heard that some of the modded bios fixed them on the P5Q which was the only reason I got my hopes up a little. Still, the P5Q-D seems to go well at 457*8 which was a lot harder to get on the MIIF. Havent even bothered with gtls, mainly because I haven't tried to work out their equivalent from the MIIF settings. Would moving +/- 5 mv on the MIIF be the same as x0.635/x0.625 (given that x0.630 is standard on GTL0/2)?

It is indeed frustrating to spend this much money on the MIIF only to discover Asus' support is getting very shabby. I'll probably go DFI or Gigabyte next time around, but that won't be until I think about going i9 or something better - I've spent far too much money & time on all this and must use my PC more :) I've gotta say that new Foxconn P55 board looks mighty sweet though!

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I was hoping your REV 3 mobo was going to be a stellar board, I see that rev 2 or 3 really makes little difference. It is a sad day when Asus drops support on its top line P45, frustating to say the least. Maybe I'll bring my Q6700 home from work and play around with it

Here is a GTL calculator you can DL, it will do the math for you. Try negative and positive values, my Q9550 really liked positive values and would fail with negative.

http://cid-988b91f35a949678.skydrive...REF%20CALC.exe

So was I, it seemed to like the E8400 I put in there and I managed 614fsb without too much trouble though - not sure if that's anything special - it's just hates my q6600! After I get a 4g kit of memory, I'll look into going 45nm I think. Won't cost me too much after I sell my Q6600. Q9550 seems like the one in my price trange - I assume most users get ~4GHz out of them.

Thanks for the calculator, it's handy to have something that doesn't need excel :)

np

This board really likes the dualies but for some reason quad chips suffer, most max at 470-475 stable.

To get 4GHZ on a Q9550 you are going to need hit 470FSB and that's about/approaching where most top out on these Mobos.

I am at 475FSB but any higher is temperamental and so unstable.

Couldn't get 457x8 stable with 1219MHz DDR on the P5Q but 1142MHz is as easy as pie (sorry, don't remember the strap). MIIF does seem to be able to get a little more stable at the same speeds, and I can run a lower PL too, but the CPU seems harder to stabilise. It does seem evident that the MIIF does seem better at running memory and general NB performance is quite well tuned, but that FSB hole after ~47x is quite a nuisance, and 478 is around the point where 2 cores disappear on my quad.

I'm tempted to try out my E6700 from my lappy in there and see how it does with the 10x multi although I couldn't get a high FSB with that in my P5B (Unlike my E6300 which could get 552FSB), so I don't hold a lot of hope there. Would be good to see if I can push it any more though, as I know it can do ~3.5GHz already.

I would hope a Rev A3+45nm Quad could get 500FSB but it is then resting on the Bios support or lack of lol.

Yes, it definitely seems more commonplace to see the 45nm quads get to 500fsb. I got my hopes up before I bought this board reading carefully through Simp's guide to acheive 490-500 FSB on a q6600, but my CPU's capabilities clearly fell short of that which was a let down, particularly after spending quite a bit of time researching the best option. Going back to the P5Q-D seems to have proved (for me) that Asus' bios support for the MIIF is lacking, particularly now that I've been blending away for 8hrs at 459x8 with no increase in voltage, and could probably push for a few more MHz (which I will). I might even keep my hands on the P5Q-D and sell off the MIIF if results prove rewarding, which is definitely a big let down from Asus considering how much more I paid for it.

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Originally Posted by In-Fluence

Yes, it definitely seems more commonplace to see the 45nm quads get to 500fsb. I got my hopes up before I bought this board reading carefully through Simp's guide to acheive 490-500 FSB on a q6600, but my CPU's capabilities clearly fell short of that which was a let down, particularly after spending quite a bit of time researching the best option. Going back to the P5Q-D seems to have proved (for me) that Asus' bios support for the MIIF is lacking, particularly now that I've been blending away for 8hrs at 459x8 with no increase in voltage, and could probably push for a few more MHz (which I will). I might even keep my hands on the P5Q-D and sell off the MIIF if results prove rewarding, which is definitely a big let down from Asus considering how much more I paid for it.

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I toss'd in my old 65nm chip today for a quick run, could NOT do 450x8 stable for the life of me, 460 would not boot, now this is the same chip than ran 3.8GHz stable for a 24/7 setup on a x38 board...

500FSB ( had to disable 2 core to boot)
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...500fsbquad.jpg

4.0GHz
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f...er/th_40-2.jpg

3.825GHz
http://i237.photobucket.com/albums/f..._3800final.jpg

Interesting stuff :) 459x8 proved 8hr blend stable, just pushed to 461 and it's still going strong after 2 hours. Whether or not I got lucky with the GTLs I don't know, I just moved one notch per 5mv from good GTLs on my MIIF with rougly the same vtt. I also used the same voltage and NB GTL as on the MIIF too - seems surprising how similar these 2 boards are, except the P5Q-D seems better from my experience so far.
Here's 459x8 stable on the P5Q-D:
http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z...tableP5Q-D.jpg

it would seem the MIIF is a dualie board only, I have a E8400 that runs 4.3GHz stable for 24/7 on a Rampage board, wonder what it would do on this pos

I could run my board to 540 100% stable, but had to drop the multiplier on my E8400 to 7.5. I could get 560 but ran instability problems. I wish I had an E8600 in there.