Do you have any Power Saving settings enabled in bios? Could just be a bad sensor.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Larry
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Do you have any Power Saving settings enabled in bios? Could just be a bad sensor.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Larry
I'm going to investigate the hardware next. Take everything out and start by one thing at a time - test out shut down - and continue. That'll single out everything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
If the shut down problem still persist, I'll consider RMA'ing the board.
I have to say this really sucks though.
PS: I'm imagining you haven't heard anything from ASUS yet.
This is what has been said as of just now,
--- On Tue, 9/30/08, timothy taylor <truehighroller1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: timothy taylor <truehighroller1@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Case# 238522
> To: GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:50 AM
> I think it has damaged my chip and like me there is another
> peron that used the option for about a week or two and he
> now has the same issue. We will do this RMA thing. Let me
> run this by you though. What happens when I get that board
> and if the same thing happens? Then will they say ok maybe
> we damaged his chip and need to look into this further or
> replace his Q9450?
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 9/30/08, GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com
> <GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com> wrote:
>
> > From: GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com
> <GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com>
> > Subject: RE: Case# 238522
> > To: truehighroller1@yahoo.com
> > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:45 AM
> > Hello Timothy,
> > That's no problem as always very sorry for the
> delay.
> > We have No
> > problem found here and also California has no problem
> > found. I would say
> > at this point it would be best to try a different
> board. I
> > have set up
> > two here and problem is fixed with the Bios I sent.
> >
> > Sorry again for the delay,
> > Garren B
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: timothy taylor
> [mailto:truehighroller1@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 29, 2008 4:25 PM
> > To: GARREN BOGARD
> > Subject: RE: Case# 238522
> >
> > Anything yet? I talked to your boss earlier..
> > Unintentionally sorry.
> >
And this,
--- On Tue, 9/30/08, timothy taylor <truehighroller1@yahoo.com> wrote:
> From: timothy taylor <truehighroller1@yahoo.com>
> Subject: RE: Case# 238522
> To: GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com
> Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:59 AM
> By saying what I said below I meant chip as in my CPU not my
> BIOS chip as I have replaced both of them through your BIOS
> department already on this current board that I am having
> the isse with right now. I will set up an RMA with this
> Mother Board through you if you like. Once I get the new one
> back and this is still happening then what, if my chip
> "Q9450" is damaged because of this then will they
> replace it for me? Did you check out the cideos that I
> uploaded to YOUtube by any chance to actually see what the
> issue looks like? I sent you the links to the videos.
> --- On Tue, 9/30/08, GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com
> <GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com> wrote:
>
> > From: GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com
> <GARREN_BOGARD@asus.com>
> > Subject: RE: Case# 238522
> > To: truehighroller1@yahoo.com
> > Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:54 AM
> > Hello Tim,
> > That is one thing we could also try. You very well
> could
> > be
> > right it could just be your Bios chip. For now
> let's
> > give that a shot;
> > call 812-282-asus and follow the answering service to
> our
> > Bios
> > department. I should be at my desk all week to catch
> up so
> > if you have
> > any questions just holler.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Garren B
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: timothy taylor
> [mailto:truehighroller1
Hmmm... so they don't seem to be able to replicate the problem on their end, are they! If they're not experiencing the problem we are, I think it will come to a full RMA circle... I don't think they will be able to issue a resolution as such if they don't have the problem at hand.
So what's your next step ... what are you planning to do?
I'm considering RMA'ing the board ... but I'll have to go through ASUS ... Newegg's warranty is far gone.
I am going to go through him for my second RMA. If this doesn't resolve the issue then I will get them to replace my CPU. They replicated the issue but, they are saying that the new BIOS solved the issue. Maybe it resolved what leads to our issue and that is why it solved it for them but, we are to late for rescue here as the damage is already done.
I guess the problem is that we're not sure if the damage is being done to the Motherboard or CPU. In a way, your RMA will find that out.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
When you say "the new BIOS solved the issue" for them, are you referring to 1403? Strangely, I was fine all the way up to 1402 ... my problems actually started while I was on 1403.
I just wrote in to ASUS Technical Inquiry as well. Let me see what they have to say.
hmm, weird thing happened to my p5q deluxe. It was idling for a few hours when I noticed that all the fans spinned up (even though I put them on "silent" in bios) and speedfan reported cpu temperature around 115c! At the same time, core temps were quite normal, 38-35c, which is usual for idle (I've got stuck sensors). This is weird, because I don't see why it would happen, I was not overclocking at the time, all settings were auto, computer wasn't doing anything except downloading a single file at mere 20-30k/s. I've shut down the computer, and when I turned it on again a few minutes later, the bios got reset as if I was doing some changes or oc'ing. I'm running e8500 with 4x1gb of memory (auto 800mhz speed), 5 hdds, pci-e X-Fi, TV-tuner, HX620 PSU, and GTX280, all on stock, when this happens... oh, and bios is 1201 ket-modded... I've restored all the settings, running again normally but I'm afraid that this will happen again. Anyone has any ideas to why this would happen? Computer is stable, I've finished assembling it a couple of weeks, did some oc'ing (4ghz at 1.25v, not much more), but I never experienced anything like this... what's going on here, I've got no idea
Quote:
Originally Posted by LUCI5R
This is my second RMA. Not only have I already RMAED before but also with this board they replaced my BIOS chips. The first time I plugged this board in it was doing the same thing as the one I RMAED. I know this is not going to solve my issue but, they don't want to listen so, we will do this the hard way.
Try to put some volts manual mate , NB might require a bit more volts for 4 dimm operationQuote:
Originally Posted by anzial
For Lucifer and Truehighroller
I think you will get both an RMA board, but getting a new cpu, never... get real guys... there are so many Q9450 and 9550's out there that are overclocked and most run fine with your hated setting on "performance"...
C'mon, pushing 480FSB daily could damage the CPU and or mobo... Is that now the mobo's fault ?... Some things go down slowly other stuff just brakes... you are overclocking and you take the risk...
I find this is getting out of proportion big time as it's all Asus' fault now... we had similar stuff with the degrading CPU thread... everyone's cpu was dying suddenly, yet it only required "for most" a small bump in Vcore to stabilize again, others had crappy PSU's, mobo with LLC issues, some had ram going bad etc...
If I was you guys I would make a seperate thread on your issue... and see what gives... I hope you get your issues fixed but I hardly believe Asus will do nothing more than just swap the mobo's
I'm not going to say what I want to say.
Ehh, Say what you want too, this is a "Forum". Peoples thoughts and input is what brings these sort of problems to the community.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehighroller
Your input as to this "Cpu Optimization setting" I believe has gotten quite a few of us to think about what our OC problems are with this board. I thank you for that. I also believe that the discussion about it is Not a Rant, but exactly that, a "Discussion" about the issue you and another and possibly myself have with this board.
I don't believe a new thread should be started about it,IMHO, but then, thats just me :)
Larry
Even KET has noted that the damn option causes issues and he is modding the BIOSes and making them clock better for people. I had this issue right away with a brand new MB from Asus with out me overclocking at all, kill that it's your fault crap... I have been nothing but, good to this chip and it is a beast when it comes to over clocking and still is.. How the hell is it the chip.... New board out of the box, how the hell is it a brand new board that has not been pushed at all just giving in. I can push this board still just fine on 0803 and yet it is the board or it is the CPU. Where is your logic behind these claims?
maybe so, maybe not. Leeghoofd (thx for the tip, btw) got a point though - true/LUCI5R discussion is hijacking the thread, and even though they do discuss relevant issues, it's getting a little out of hand. It's a matter of perception, only mods can make a decision in this regard.
I have helped people here as well.. alot. I'm done with this convo, sorry.
Edit: I just talked to my contact and he said if it comes down to the CPU being damaged then they will replace it seeing as it is obvious that the option caused the damage. :up:
Sorry but...which bios is the best for a Q6600?
This is the ASUS P5Q Deluxe Discussion thread, as far as I can recall. I'm having a Shut Down issue with this motherboard. I'm having a 'can't boot into Vista with a BIOS > 0803' issue with this motherboard ... all relating to a Setting in the BIOS for THIS very motherboard. Trust me I can hang around all day & night and argue how valid this discussion is pertaining to this thread. Separate thread?!? Nuts?!?
'for the sake of decency & sanity, it appears obviously you people are getting annoyed with our discussions on the current 'obvious' problem underlying somewhere with or near this motherboard (In acquaintance with Q9450's), and thus as with true, I'm also done with this over here.
Out.
Regarding disabling LLC; Causes my rig to BSOD within a few minutes of starting IBT 10 pass. Enabling it, fixes this. So in my opinion best keep it enabled :up:
Look guys I don't want to chase noone away, but this thread is getting very very large and the latest pages have been concerning your issues... not telling us anything new, even to me it seemed that True's contact completely misunderstood the situation : as he thought it was more a bios corruption issue and wasn't even aware True was referring to his CPU being damaged... and Lucifer are you going to tell us a zillion times you have the shutdown issue... plz do domething about it, take action , mailing will not help you, as most technical support staff don't even own a power computer,..., swap hardware try stuff and report back...
It would be easier for peeps with the same issue to share stuff as most will not go through a 162 page thread to find an answer... you guys look at my suggestion totally the wrong way... these threads hold great info but due to the enormous amounts of posts it's very very hard to find... I wished a moderator gave me the power to edit Big Joe's first post to add some of the info, tips and issues...
So Timothy look at your reply if the board and CPU work fine with 0803 , is your CPU damaged then ? NOPE your boards bios > 0803 messes up some routine or code which leads to instability... we had this with the Striker board where a firmware for the Nvidiot chipset was updated and brought many 65nm quad OC's to it's knees... reflashing to an earlier bios there didn't even help for some of us back then...
Lucifer have you popped the Cmos battery for some hours ? My Formula board had a bad flash and always rebooted after a succesfull windows shutdown otherwise it just hung at the windows shutdown screen... I see in ya videos there's still optimized in the cpu enhancement ... have you tried performance ? and plz man do a cmos reset after a flash...
You guys are way too angry with the current situation and take some posts (mainly mine) as a personal attack : which they are not !!! But take into consideration when you push hardware some things can break and that's the risk we all take... nothing lasts forever... also the Golden rule if it ain't broke don't fix it rule is always valid.... if 0803 works fine stick with it till the Bios department finds a cure or just removes it (can't Ket remove it ?)
Without LLC you might need about 0.08 more Vcore set in bios...Quote:
Originally Posted by Singh400
Well said :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
Noted, cheers mate :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leeghoofd
http://i308.photobucket.com/albums/k...9h23-VCore.png
I ran OCCT for a little over a half hour with another psu and got those spikes in voltage again. Could it be that Asus adware from the cd that I instaled (I think I uninstaled most of it). Should I try a format or flash to another bios? Should I even worry about it?
Nothing earth shattering but w 1403 I got down another Volt to 1.2 and am @ PL7 down from 8. I like this speed I get to keep things nice and quiet, I'll get much more I'm sure but...This is a good 24/7. I'll see about topping out later, now if I could just get the voltages to step like they do when I'm @ stock auto.
I can do 4 with all the C1E and speed step enabled, but Auto voltage is way to high and when I set the voltage it stays there regardless if I'm running @ 4Ghz or it steps down to the X6 speed of 2.4 Ghz.
http://mscopp.zenfolio.com/img/v3/p786476523-5.jpg
You sure you can trust sensor readings from the P5Q-D? Nah, seriously... I've had spikes on my vcore as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1223/gr3y7347en4.png
O thank God! I feel much better. My P7n's H/W moniter was even worse. I was pretty worried. I spent all afternoon swaping out my psu testing and putting it back in. Thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by disavowed