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hi guys, well i'll try to explain my problem (my english is not so good)
i've got a winchester3000+ (watercooled) and a MSI K8N Neo2 and a pair of 512MB DDR500 ADATA
it's Prime95 estable working at 277x9 3:2 (mems@185Mhz) (1T)
and working at 250x9 1:1 (1T)
but i don't know why, i can't make it stable working at 277x9 5:4 (mems@~230, remember that they work perfectly at 250) (1T) :confused:
do you know guys what is my problem?
thx & regards
i dont think so, but to make sure you should test the same memory stick on both memory channels = both memory controllers, to see if one of them is ocing worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by |-jokker-|
is your vdimm stable? maybe it fluctuates and with 2 sticks it fluctuates a lot more wich keeps your oc down? did you try 1t and 2t?
hey steve-O, welcome to XtremeSystems :toast:Quote:
Originally Posted by steve-0
i feel honored to see you post here ;) hehe :D
it could be a bios problem with the divider... but i think the problem is just that you cant oc the memory and the fsb to the max.
its the same when overclocking a videocard, if you oc the gopu you reach a certain speed, if you then oc the memory you reach a certain speed, but you will never be able to run the gpu and the memory at the same speed together, you will always have to slow down the gpu and memory both a bit if you oc both.
its the same for cpus, if you can reach a certain oc and a certain max fsb it doesnt mean you can reach that max cpu oc together with the max fsb you reached with a different multiplier.
a better psu and maybe cooling the mosfets could help you :)
if you have a good psu you can mod it and pump up the rails a little :D
hi
thank you very much for your answer, but, you don't think that is too many diference 260 1:1 (stable) and 277 5:4 (230DDR) (unstable) ? :(
Does anyone have a solution for running this mobo with a Mach 1 unit ?
gonna get this mobo today with 3500+ .09 anyadvice for me forexample i read the thread but cant decide 1.36b or 1.37 bios and again does this mobo like 3500eb do i need to know any specific configuration for that
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Originally Posted by yuri
More than a few of us are awaiting the answer to this problem. There is a new bios out but no one has tried it with the mach I yet so i dunno. I would try it myself but i only have enough seal string for one more go so until i buy some more i'll wait and see if someone else finds a fix.
Is there a way to find out the NB region of the MSI Neo2 (China-Taiwan-Korea)
Something like sticker outside the box?
Mine is from taiwan , is that good , or bad ?
Thkx a lot guys
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Originally Posted by esdee
no - u've to take of the NB-heatsink.....
I noticed nVidia have released drivers refered to as 6.14beta. As my last download was 5.10 I wonder if these are nforce drivers. Can anyone confirm this?
Anyone tried them?
Upgraded to Winchester, 3dmark score went down
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My old scores on my xp2500@2400 and 220 mem at 2,3,3,6 with a 9800 AIW @ 400 / 380 would get about 19,500 in 3dmark01.
Same video card at same clocks with a 3200 939 winchester@2500 (4x htt @250) with mem at 208 2,3,3,6 on my Neo2 K8N, I only got 16,100 in 3DMark 01.
What gives? I thought the mem divider on the Athlon 64's makes less of an impact, but my scores suck.
Bios 1.36B
Aggressive Timmings... Dis
NV/ATI..Dis
Drive Dram Streangth... Normal
Dynamic OCing...Dis
HT Freq...4x
Coll-N-Quiet...Dis
PCI Auto Detect...Enabled
AGP Freq...67
Mem Volts 2.75......
AGP voltage 1.6
Vcore 1.7
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Originally Posted by p4z1f1st
ok i got mine today and this is what it says ont he nb.... 047353.1 0440A2 S TAIWAN ULTRA soooooooooooooo did i get the good one or the :banana::banana::banana::banana: one :)
thx perc,
I've seen someone else around here saying they had a newer Taiwan NF3 and it did fine. The issue may be more related to pre-0419 chipsets then site manufactured. You'll have to let us know. :)
I recieved my neo2 and 90nm 3200+ few hours ago and set it up all and now when i goto turn my computers on, i switch the psU ON and the system's fans and HD's start up but nothing gets displayed
so i press the power button.. and it shuts down.. when i press it again, nothing happens
it has:
gf2 mx400
3200+ winnie
neo2
2x HD's 1x CDrom
1 512 Ram in dimm 1
what could be wrong? i think it might be my case's power button.. anyway to turn it on without the power button?
thanks in advance
i also tryed booting with no CPU and just 1 stick of ram.. nothing
i have the same problem man. i cant turn the system on with the power button thank god for some reason the psu switch is acting as a power button at the moment.... another thing im haveng trouble with is the memory i cant run more then one stick of memory and if i even try to use differnt slots the only way to get the system to boot is to clear the c-mos and go into the bios and reset all the settings... i deff think a bios update is in need here? the bios date reads 9/22/04 can someone tell me what bios this is? also what do i use to flash the bios? winflash? someone help :)Quote:
Originally Posted by aonic
thx perc,
Sounds like the old 1.1 BIOS.
Heres a link to most of the beta BIOS's for the K8n NEO2. And I think a DOS Floppy flasher is included on that site. If not grab an official MSI BIOS and it'll have the proper DOS flasher.
http://www.weckstrom.com/msibios/
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Originally Posted by Blue078
yeah its deff old cause msi live update shows 1.30 for the next update but i dont trust that prog to flash the bios so i ask you this?? can i just use winflash? im used to that prog and have good luck with it BUT i am not sure how it works with the MSI board? anyone know if i can use the winflash prog or not?
here for some entertainment value: this is my air set up til i get it in my mach1. didnt want to stuff it in a case til i got the bugs all worked out....
thx perc,
There is a thread here on ways to flash the BIOS on the NEO 2.
Some nice little tricks in it, and even tho I am a DOS lover, the flash in windows seems OK.
All the BIOS are @ http://www.lejabeach.com/MSIK8N/k8nneo2.html except the one the OnepageBook modded which you can get if you PM him.
I've only flashed with DOS so I cant help ya their. Hope you guys get your boards going your way:) I was an early adopter of the Neo2, and it's been the best 939 I've had.
OK here is another trick question re: BIOS flashing. I have a left over BIOS saviour that I was using on the DFI NF2 board. Could I use Winflash and flash the saviour with the MSI BIOS and be able to use it? I am not sure if the BIOS that in the Neo2 right now supports Winnies, so trying to figure out a possible solution.
What do you guys think would that work?
ok i just used winflash to flash the bios and it worked BUT my question is why does it still read 9/22/04? i flashed to the 137 modded bios what gives??
hmmm? well on the boot up sceen it shows it being the 1.37 bios so i gues the 9/22/04 date is just the version bios that was modded and renamed 1.37? anyways now my power button works AND i can use 2 sticks of memory in 1T mode sooooooooo looks like the 1.37 modded bios has helped me out big time. now lets oc this puppy :)
thx perc.
You should have no problems with a winnie if you have the mem in single channel mode even with an early BIOS.Quote:
Originally Posted by G|-|oST
I don't see what you shouldn't be able to use a BIOS savior, and if it gives you grief (wrong file etc) force flash it.
Think if you have to force flash it, it will be the floppy way.
See my post here on force flash.
Going to depend what's on it atm, and what board you flash it in.
I just took the flash utility apart, and it does support /F
F: Use Flash Routines in Original BIOS For Flash Programming
i fixed my problem with a cmos clear.. but now when i install any OS and boot from HD i get a blank screen :/ i can install any windows just fine.. but when it boots to HD it get a blank screen
Well I've only got a XP90 heatsink with a 92mm YS-Tech fan but the temps at full load @2.5Ghz @1.55v is around >60C!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by longshot
Me thinks the temps are as much as 10-15C off the mark, may just be wishful thinking until others can confirm this... :bsod:
ok im having some issues here. seems that trying to set it to 210 results in a no go? i would think that 210 would go without having to touch any voltage settings? maybe im running into memory conflicts already? im using adata pc4000 since the damm things have run good in every rig ive owened so far... just seems funny that 210 being almost a given and it not wanting to work that its more like a memory conflict then an actualy oc limitation?? i have a feeling if i yank one out and go to single channle this would not happen. thing is i want dual channel so i gues the fun begins "time to start trying differnt memory"... all i have right now is EB3500 and crosair 3200 bh-5 and these dammed pc4000 adata sticks.... any ideas guys?
thx perc,