The Fermi Thread - Part 3

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03-18-2010, 08:29 AM
Piotrsama

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Originally Posted by Zed_X

I know everything, but its funny play with you, nobodies.

Didn't know JHH was a user of this forum...

:rolleyes:
03-18-2010, 08:33 AM
MrDiaz

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-g...aled/8635.html
03-18-2010, 08:35 AM
MrDiaz

First post updated
03-18-2010, 08:43 AM
Nightcover

I need one of these (GTX 470) :D
03-18-2010, 08:47 AM
Picao84

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Originally Posted by MrDiaz

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-g...aled/8635.html

Is it really hard to read last page? It was posted there already.
03-18-2010, 08:51 AM
MrDiaz

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Originally Posted by Picao84

Is it really hard to read last page? It was posted there already.

Yes it is, I didn't see the link to the article, but a link to the forums with a picture included. What's the point of your post?
03-18-2010, 09:03 AM
Picao84

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Originally Posted by MrDiaz

Yes it is, I didn't see the link to the article, but a link to the forums with a picture included. What's the point of your post?

Do you know the meaning of last page? In this page is the link to the forum with picture yes. But in last (page 9) the same link you posted is there.
03-18-2010, 09:03 AM
Olivon

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Originally Posted by MrDiaz

Yes it is, I didn't see the link to the article, but a link to the forums with a picture included. What's the point of your post?

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=198

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...&postcount=223

Please read before posting, that's all ...
03-18-2010, 09:04 AM
Nightcover

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Originally Posted by Picao84

Do you know the meaning of last page? In this page is the link to the forum with picture yes. But in last (page 9) the same link you posted is there.

Do you know the meaning of previous?
03-18-2010, 09:11 AM
Sn0wm@n

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Originally Posted by Carfax

Talk about premature.. The HD 5800 series has been out since Q3 last year, and has had ample time to refine and optimize it's drivers.

The same can't be said for Fermi though, and I can recall a few times when Nvidia has released drivers for their new cards which increased performance by as much as 30% across the board (Geforce 3 and Detonator 20xx drivers).

I hope this happens with Fermi as well :D

so your expecting epic drivers to create some magic performance boost ????

do you want walt disney himself to come render each frame in real time while we are at it ????
03-18-2010, 09:14 AM
Nightcover

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

so your expecting epic drivers to create some magic performance boost ????

do you want walt disney himself to come render each frame in real time while we are at it ????

I think we are expecting actual benchmarks to show us the truth 26.
03-18-2010, 09:21 AM
Picao84

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Originally Posted by Nightcover

Do you know the meaning of previous?

Do you know last and previous are synonymous?

Anyway, enough semantics :p:
03-18-2010, 09:43 AM
annihilat0r

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Originally Posted by nightcover

i think we are expecting actual benchmarks to show us the truth 26.

29.
03-18-2010, 09:56 AM
eternal_fantasy

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Originally Posted by annihilat0r

29.

27.
03-18-2010, 09:58 AM
Sn0wm@n

april 6th
03-18-2010, 10:03 AM
Helloworld_98

holy (there should be a 4x :banana: button) 295w TDP? and only 5-10% better than 5870? along with higher price tag?

forget it, you'll probably save enough on your energy bills with the 5870 to buy another (over a few years of course, no more than 10 though)
03-18-2010, 10:20 AM
Marios

april 6th because it's my birthday
03-18-2010, 10:26 AM
Carfax

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Originally Posted by Sn0wm@n

so your expecting epic drivers to create some magic performance boost ????

do you want walt disney himself to come render each frame in real time while we are at it ????

You make it seem like it's impossible, when it's already happened before. :rolleyes:

I gave a specific example even. Any long time buyer of Nvidia cards will remember when the Geforce 3 series first came out, it was barely faster than the Geforce 2 series that it was replacing.....until Nvidia released the new Detonator 20xx drivers that boosted performance by an average of 20 to 30%, and up to 40% and 50% in some cases..

So yes, it can happen. Driver optimizations can make a huge difference in performance, especially if the architecture is radically different from the previous generation; which Fermi happens to be.
03-18-2010, 10:36 AM
eric66

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Originally Posted by Olivon

Well ... Another twelve's year old post from eric66. Bravo :clap:

well.....another useless comment from olivon bravo :clap:
03-18-2010, 10:40 AM
zerazax

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Originally Posted by Carfax

You make it seem like it's impossible, when it's already happened before. :rolleyes:

I gave a specific example even. Any long time buyer of Nvidia cards will remember when the Geforce 3 series first came out, it was barely faster than the Geforce 2 series that it was replacing.....until Nvidia released the new Detonator 20xx drivers that boosted performance by an average of 20 to 30%, and up to 40% and 50% in some cases..

So yes, it can happen. Driver optimizations can make a huge difference in performance, especially if the architecture is radically different from the previous generation; which Fermi happens to be.

Problem is that driver releases have matured a lot since the days of the GeForce 2/3. Major bosts in individual games certainly exist, but long-term performance improvements across the board are not in the 20-30% range any longer
03-18-2010, 10:43 AM
LordEC911

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Originally Posted by Vardant

I thought neliz was supposed to have inside info...seems like that's not the case, what a surprise :rolleyes:

He does have inside info, he just doesn't get it straight from Nvidia.
I'm pretty sure of where he gets most of his info from.
03-18-2010, 10:48 AM
Vardant

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Originally Posted by LordEC911

He does have inside info, he just doesn't get it straight from Nvidia.
I'm pretty sure of where he gets most of his info from.

You mean ATI? :p:
03-18-2010, 10:49 AM
trinibwoy

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Originally Posted by Vardant

You mean ATI? :p:

That seems to be the most popular theory, yes.
03-18-2010, 10:52 AM
Carfax

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Originally Posted by zerazax

Problem is that driver releases have matured a lot since the days of the GeForce 2/3. Major bosts in individual games certainly exist, but long-term performance improvements across the board are not in the 20-30% range any longer

I don't know. Nvidia is a master of squeezing performance out of their cards with drivers..

Even the G200 got some nice performance increases from driver optimizations, and it had way more similarities to the G80 and G90 cards, than Fermi will have to the G200..

When I first bought my GTX 285, it was using the 17xxx drivers. After Nvidia released the 18xxx drivers, I noticed a significant improvement in performance in a lot of games, to the tune of 15% or so..

These latest 19xxx are also very good, but the improvements are more specific than across the board..
03-18-2010, 10:56 AM
LordEC911

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Originally Posted by trinibwoy

That seems to be the most popular theory, yes.

That would only be some of his info.

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