Foxconn Quantum Force Black Ops X48 OC Guide (56k Warning)

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06-22-2008, 11:00 PM
sashin

Quote:

Originally Posted by LardArse

since u are on water, i assume the nb is watered as well.

cpu volts
1.47v
enabled vdrooop compensate

vtt 1.35v
gtl0 + 12
gtl1 + 7
gtl2 +12
gtl3 +12

vnb 1.6v
ddr depends on rams, maybe 2.15v

1:4 fsb 333

mem settings:

set manually - CL 7-7-7-21- performance level 7, 1T

10 x 400 save and exit
boost in up in windows with aegis panel if desired

Thanks Lardarse, the NB is still on air. I will try these settings and give it a go later. Will keep you updated..
Thanks again.
06-23-2008, 12:51 AM
vagos

Τhanks very much guys.I will try it
06-23-2008, 01:30 AM
saaya

Pederrs and vagos, what happens if you disable oc recovery?
could you post a detailled list of your hardware?
i suspect the oc recovery keps kicking in cause the board doesnt power up properly, which could be related to the psu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telo

By right panel I meant the right wing of the Aegis panel [it has a left and a right wing]. The left one shows the vCore at 1.3500v, but in the form of a drop down menu; while the right one shows it like it was an actual reading.

oh, you mean the right wing, ok :D
i think the vcore on the left is always set that way...
did you go ahead and meassure the vcore with a dmm?

shashin, use the settings peter recommended, but 1.9v, our memory is based on micron D9JNL chips, they usually dont like voltages above 2v.

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikerules

Well I managed to get the memory to run at stock settings, but it will only run into windows for a limited time and crashes on prime95 instantly. I did manage a 3DMark06 result @ 3.6GHz with 2x2GB 1600MHz RAM and my score REDUCED by 300 points - not what I was expecting. This is with G27 bios... hmmm

300 points less than what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikerules

saaya, I have never, ever, ever run more than 2x2GB of OCZ RAM as I dont even own 4x2GB RAM.

hmmm sory, i must have confused you with GTFouts who is running 4x2gb ocz... my bad.
06-23-2008, 01:54 AM
Pederrs

Quote:

Originally Posted by vagos

Guys i need help.:( I bought my black ops before 2 days.When i try to overclock, the system don't responds.I have to wait about 1 minute watching mobo trying to post, and after it posts on defaults.It is doing the same when i just set manual overclock without changing any setting.Please could anyone help me?

Jep we have exactly same problem :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by ceevee

This could be two things (and both of these happened to me):

1) Power supply issue. I found this board to be very picky with PSU. When I first built this machine I used a 900W Tagan modular. It would often do just what you described when I tried to overclock and increase voltages. Turn on, turn off, turn on, turn off, it happened so fast there was never any post screen. I replaced the PSU with a 1000W CM SLI certified PSU and this problem stopped.

2) Automatic overclock recovery BIOS issue. I also had this problem on the shipping BIOS. The overclock recovery was way to aggressive and would often kick the board into an endless loop because the board would NOT post on auto settings at all. I had to disable overlock recovery to get the board working with shipping BIOS. G27 has resolved this issue for me and now I can leave overclock recovery enabled.

Hope this helps. :)

Thank you! I will try that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LardArse

you tried on air? Does it do it on air?

Yes i have also tried on air... same problem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

Pederrs and vagos, what happens if you disable oc recovery?
could you post a detailled list of your hardware?
i suspect the oc recovery keps kicking in cause the board doesnt power up properly, which could be related to the psu.

I will try to disable it when i get home. Full hardware list:
QX9650
Asus GTX 280
2GB Cell Shock PC14400
Enermax Infiniti 720W
Raptor 150GB

I could try with a Tagan 530W.
06-23-2008, 02:56 AM
spikerules

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

300 points less than what?

hmmm sory, i must have confused you with GTFouts who is running 4x2gb ocz... my bad.

300 points less that I was getting before the memory overclock. I think I have a duff board or you guys have a lot of work to do with the bios still.
06-23-2008, 03:03 AM
saaya

i dont think you have a bad board, the bios just needs some tuning for better auto timings... but since all the options are available you can have a go at it manually as well.
not that many people run 2gb sticks, so thats why the bios isnt optimized for it yet i suppose.
its time to do it though, and ill get at it as soon as im done with the things im working on currently.
i will go on a business trip for a week starting tomorrow, so i cant do any testing... but ill try to come online and post here as much as i can.

so 1333 666 gave you 300 points more than 1600 888?
that makes sense... your mem is rated to 1600 cas7 tho, isnt it?

did you play with the dll settings and clock skew setting at all?
i think thats what holds your mem back from running any higher, once thats adjusted you should be able to run 1600 cas7, maybe even 765 depending on what chips ocz is using.
06-23-2008, 05:42 AM
spikerules

Quote:

Originally Posted by saaya

i dont think you have a bad board, the bios just needs some tuning for better auto timings... but since all the options are available you can have a go at it manually as well.
not that many people run 2gb sticks, so thats why the bios isnt optimized for it yet i suppose.
its time to do it though, and ill get at it as soon as im done with the things im working on currently.
i will go on a business trip for a week starting tomorrow, so i cant do any testing... but ill try to come online and post here as much as i can.

so 1333 666 gave you 300 points more than 1600 888?
that makes sense... your mem is rated to 1600 cas7 tho, isnt it?

did you play with the dll settings and clock skew setting at all?
i think thats what holds your mem back from running any higher, once thats adjusted you should be able to run 1600 cas7, maybe even 765 depending on what chips ocz is using.

No running the memory at 1066, I gain better 3DMark results. How does this make sense? Thats running the memory slower than what the memory can do at default. I cant seem to get the memory to run at 1333 at all. 1600 works for a limited time into windows before a crash. So 1066 was better at 3DMark than 1600.

Also, I dont see why my 3Dmark scores are so low compared to the Asus Striker II. I was getting 14k @ 3GHz and 1600Mhz memory on the Asus, but I'm getting 12.500 on this board with 1600MHz memory and 3.6GHz CPU speed.
06-23-2008, 05:47 AM
Gautam

You got any compare links for 06 scores?
06-23-2008, 06:06 AM
spikerules

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

You got any compare links for 06 scores?

No , I 'm not sure how to link them or even if I can. I use the free software/trial thingy. I didnt see anyway of linking or saving the info?
06-23-2008, 06:35 AM
Gautam

Free version of 06 is fine. Just submit the score to the online result browser. You'll have to make an account but it's free.

Edit- never mind. Looking at your system, I don't believe you could have ever scored 14k in 06, unless you had ridiculously high GPU clocks. There's no 06 score on the planet that I can find that's anywhere nearly that high with an 8800GTX. Link. Note how all systems there are well past 3.5GHz and have agressively overclocked video cards.

Are you sure that you got that kind of a score with the Striker? Chances are it was run at a lower resolution (sometimes on certain monitors it runs at 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024 without giving you and indication that it's doing so) or you're misremembering your score. Any chance you actually ran 3DMark05 and not 3DMark06?
06-23-2008, 06:35 AM
Pederrs

Vagos, i think i have solved the problem now. As ceevee said i tried another PSU and now the board is runing as it should :D
Again thank you ceevee ;)

If i disabled oc recovery with my Infinity 720W i still got the same problem so that was not the problem.
06-23-2008, 06:42 AM
Praz

Quote:

Originally Posted by spikerules

No running the memory at 1066, I gain better 3DMark results. How does this make sense? Thats running the memory slower than what the memory can do at default. I cant seem to get the memory to run at 1333 at all. 1600 works for a limited time into windows before a crash. So 1066 was better at 3DMark than 1600.

Also, I dont see why my 3Dmark scores are so low compared to the Asus Striker II. I was getting 14k @ 3GHz and 1600Mhz memory on the Asus, but I'm getting 12.500 on this board with 1600MHz memory and 3.6GHz CPU speed.

With Windows crashing at 1600MHz there is definitely stability issues. If 3dMark is run on a system that unstable and completes the benchmark the score almost always suffer. If 1600MHz can be made Windows stable your score will most likely take a huge jump.
06-23-2008, 06:17 PM
gmcg

Quote:

Originally Posted by sashin

Thanks LardArse and Telo. I have the mobo with G27 BIOS now with my CellShock (see sig) I still cannot get this board to run stable at 400 FSB....what setting should i set my memory timings and voltage to? Anyone here with Cellshock (Blue heatsink) and QX9650 and running 4.0GHZ stable? with water cooling the cpu and perhaps even the NB.
Thanks again guys.

I am running it at 4.3 GHz stable like a rock with 430 MHz FSB ... my Corsair memory is more or less equal to your CellShock
06-24-2008, 07:40 AM
spikerules

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gautam

Free version of 06 is fine. Just submit the score to the online result browser. You'll have to make an account but it's free.

Edit- never mind. Looking at your system, I don't believe you could have ever scored 14k in 06, unless you had ridiculously high GPU clocks. There's no 06 score on the planet that I can find that's anywhere nearly that high with an 8800GTX. Link. Note how all systems there are well past 3.5GHz and have agressively overclocked video cards.

Are you sure that you got that kind of a score with the Striker? Chances are it was run at a lower resolution (sometimes on certain monitors it runs at 1024x768 instead of 1280x1024 without giving you and indication that it's doing so) or you're misremembering your score. Any chance you actually ran 3DMark05 and not 3DMark06?

No I did get around 14k and 15k with minimal GPU overclock. Maybe the resolution was lower?
06-24-2008, 07:43 AM
spikerules

Quote:

Originally Posted by Praz

With Windows crashing at 1600MHz there is definitely stability issues. If 3dMark is run on a system that unstable and completes the benchmark the score almost always suffer. If 1600MHz can be made Windows stable your score will most likely take a huge jump.

Thanks Praz,
Now its up to Foxconn to make a bios able to sustain my OCZ memory!
06-24-2008, 09:54 AM
Telo

For anyone interested, MemoryC.com has the CellShock 1866 RAM on special for $368. It is a website based in Ireland, so you will be charged the equivalent in EUR; your total with shipping should be around $400 if you select next day FedEx shipping.
06-24-2008, 12:08 PM
sashin

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmcg

I am running it at 4.3 GHz stable like a rock with 430 MHz FSB ... my Corsair memory is more or less equal to your CellShock

What are your other settings mate? ie other memory setting..all on auto? Also what about your other voltage settings, what FSB strap? any change to gtt voltage, gtl ranges and so on.
regards,
sashin
06-24-2008, 01:00 PM
sashin

Quote:

Originally Posted by LardArse

since u are on water, i assume the nb is watered as well.

cpu volts
1.47v
enabled vdrooop compensate

vtt 1.35v
gtl0 + 12
gtl1 + 7
gtl2 +12
gtl3 +12

vnb 1.6v
ddr depends on rams, maybe 2.15v

1:4 fsb 333

mem settings:

set manually - CL 7-7-7-21- performance level 7, 1T

10 x 400 save and exit
boost in up in windows with aegis panel if desired

Tried these settings BUT no go for me. It sometimes boots into Vista BUT any sort of benchmark causes BSOD. Any other input?
06-25-2008, 09:10 AM
FuriousSalesman

have you adjusted your command dll's?
06-25-2008, 09:13 AM
systemviper

How is this board maturing, is it getting more stable and is the bios getting better.
I have been waiting on a build till it kinda settles down...

hope this isn't a noob question but I have high hopes for this board.

regards
steve
06-25-2008, 09:39 AM
sashin

Quote:

Originally Posted by FuriousSalesman

have you adjusted your command dll's?

Have tried command dll at auto and also at -2..still getting in Vista no problems BUT the moment i run 3DMark 06...after a few minutes i get BSOD..!!
I have also tried Ctrl dll and clock dll setting ranging from
-3 to +3 each....still no go..
any other suggestions people....saaya, Lardarse, Telo?
I have also left all other memory timings at auto and have also adjusted settings according to
http://www.benchtec.co.uk/forums/sho...?t=1423&page=8

still no luck

Regards
06-25-2008, 09:44 AM
Telo

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemviper

How is this board maturing, is it getting more stable and is the bios getting better.
I have been waiting on a build till it kinda settles down...

hope this isn't a noob question but I have high hopes for this board.

regards
steve

Take it from a non-believer turned into supporter... the board IS maturing with every BIOS release and it keeps allowing people to do more and more in terms of overclocking. I used to just be able to run at 333FSB with the RAM down clocked to 1066Mhz with CAS7. Now with the help of better RAM, a different CPU, and latest BIOS, I'm able to run an E8500 at 9 x 475 on 1.30v with the RAM set to 1900Mhz @ 8-8-8-16-1T-L7 on 1.84v.
06-25-2008, 11:05 AM
raptor1

Foxconn Roadshow

has anyone plans to attend the Coventry event on Aug 8~11

any details of venue and times and if it is a public or private event and if tickets are required

flanr
06-25-2008, 01:23 PM
sashin

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telo

Take it from a non-believer turned into supporter... the board IS maturing with every BIOS release and it keeps allowing people to do more and more in terms of overclocking. I used to just be able to run at 333FSB with the RAM down clocked to 1066Mhz with CAS7. Now with the help of better RAM, a different CPU, and latest BIOS, I'm able to run an E8500 at 9 x 475 on 1.30v with the RAM set to 1900Mhz @ 8-8-8-16-1T-L7 on 1.84v.

Telo are you able to run benchmarks with these settings? If so what are your other memory timing settings? I have the same RAM as yours and i cannot run any benchmark stable even at 400 FSB at less tighter memory divider.

Thanks
06-25-2008, 01:31 PM
sashin

Quote:

Originally Posted by flanr

has anyone plans to attend the Coventry event on Aug 8~11

any details of venue and times and if it is a public or private event and if tickets are required

flanr

flanr what are your other memory timings? I have the same memory modules as yours BUT mine does not performany benchmark stable at even 400FSB as i had posted to Telo. Any help is much appreciated.

Regards
sashin

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