Unleash the Gladiator (RV670): 862MHz GPU Clock Limit Fixed

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12-01-2007, 04:53 AM
hstuehmeyer2000

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint

I can't find it at mvktech, give linky?

here http://www.mvktech.net/component/opt...7157/catid,12/

and that rapidshare link was a download link
12-01-2007, 05:13 AM
Clint

Thanks for the link!:up:

..I do prefer dl directly from source, nothing personal:D
12-01-2007, 05:35 AM
Clint

Tried it and the fan is controlled by bios, but it doesn't get recognized in windows by drivers...can't do crap with it..:(
12-01-2007, 05:43 AM
Tim_HKG

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint

Where to find that particular bios?

Perhaps someone had already posted it, anyhow, it's here:
http://www.uploading.com/files/IFYV1NN0/112007.rar.html
12-01-2007, 12:22 PM
slugzkea

My Thread

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wirelessfender

Can we get a compiled thread with ONLY the info on developments for getting these cards OCed higher? like a guide or something? 15 pages is kinda long...

3870 all you need to know:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/....php?p=2587419
12-01-2007, 12:26 PM
slugzkea

Sapphire bios?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Clint

Where to find that particular bios?

Guys what is the difference between this new sapphire bios, and the one released by ATI?
12-01-2007, 01:34 PM
HousERaT

it allows you to overclock past 860Mhz on the core.
12-01-2007, 02:22 PM
aiya

i flashed mine with the techpowerup bios. before the bios flash, i had my card up to 860/1300 but only tested it with CS:S and HL2:Lost Coast stress tests. no issues running both of those.

after i flashed my card and using the same overclock, i installed CoH and ran the ingame tester, it crashed and vpu kicked it. i've been playing with it since yesterday and originally thought it was the memory causing it to crash so i downclocked it to 1200, still no go. so it comes down to the core. i just ran the CoH tester again and it finished it with no problems @ 840/1200.

i'm downloading 3dmark06 right now and will test some more when its done. my question is, can the new bios change my card's overclockability? i'm assuming it can due to memory timings and such. if thats the case i might just flash back to the factory bios.
12-01-2007, 04:19 PM
slugzkea

duh

Quote:

Originally Posted by HousERaT

it allows you to overclock past 860Mhz on the core.

No, really? I mean, if you've read from page 1 on this thread, you would know that i obviously, already, seriously fux0ring know that.

Now, let me rephraise:

WHAT is the DIFFERENCE between the NEW bios released by ATI (which allows the core to go past 862mhz and fixes the fan% settings), and the BIOS released by SAPPHIRE?

Sapphire new bios?
ATI new bios?

IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE! thank you.

I ask, because all releases by different companies use different RAM chips.

So I'm trying to figure out if the new sapphire bios has been modified for the Samsung chips.

THANK YOU:clap:
12-01-2007, 04:25 PM
HousERaT

Quote:

Originally Posted by slugzkea

I ask, because all releases by different companies use different RAM chips.

Well when you find a 3870 using something other than Sammy chips please let us know. ;)
12-01-2007, 04:38 PM
aiya

update from my previous post.

i just ran HL2: Lost Coast stress test @ 860/1306 in ATI OverDrive and it crash about halfway through it. with the original bios it ran perfect with that overclock now it can't after flashing to the new bios. i haven't reinstalled drivers after the bios flash so that might be factor too. will do more testing tonight.
12-01-2007, 04:47 PM
DMH

I'm sorry but can anyone tell me if the HD3870 is compatible with the VF-900??
12-01-2007, 05:21 PM
Crankybugga

Quote:

Originally Posted by aiya

update from my previous post.

i just ran HL2: Lost Coast stress test @ 860/1306 in ATI OverDrive and it crash about halfway through it. with the original bios it ran perfect with that overclock now it can't after flashing to the new bios. i haven't reinstalled drivers after the bios flash so that might be factor too. will do more testing tonight.

It would have been interesting to compare some 05/06 results before and after at same oc.
Any performance difference in LC?.... if you get to finish hehe :p:
12-01-2007, 05:58 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMH

I'm sorry but can anyone tell me if the HD3870 is compatible with the VF-900??

should be fine but there are better heatsinks out there for only a couple $ more.
12-01-2007, 06:27 PM
DMH

Quote:

Originally Posted by STEvil

should be fine but there are better heatsinks out there for only a couple $ more.

I already own a VF-900,just another question:p: : is also the 8800GT compatible with the VF-900??My chioce is leaning towards ATI price and being able to use the VF-900 on it
12-01-2007, 07:25 PM
aiya

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crankybugga

It would have been interesting to compare some 05/06 results before and after at same oc.
Any performance difference in LC?.... if you get to finish hehe :p:

before the flash in LC i got, 93fps stock, 103fps oc'ed both @ 1920x1200 w/ 4xAA/16xAF high everything else, reflect world. i'll run one flashed stock in LC to see. i also just ran 3dmark06 default and got 10156 @ stock clocks.

http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/3...shedlp1.th.jpg

Quote:

Originally Posted by DMH

I already own a VF-900,just another question:p: : is also the 8800GT compatible with the VF-900??My chioce is leaning towards ATI price and being able to use the VF-900 on it

the 8800GT is compatiable with the VF900.
12-02-2007, 11:54 AM
Winterwind

HD3870 works fine with VF-900.
i have VF-700CU @ 5v on my HD3850 and temp goes to 65c with 770/2100 clocks:p:
12-02-2007, 05:46 PM
STEvil

Quote:

Originally Posted by Winterwind

HD3870 works fine with VF-900.
i have VF-700CU @ 5v on my HD3850 and temp goes to 65c with 770/2100 clocks:p:

Thats cooler than my X1800 MOBILITY on vf900-cu!!! :rofl: :up:
12-02-2007, 09:10 PM
kemist

Just wondering if 1.325v seems extremely high for stock volts on 55nm process to anyone else? What was hd2900 vgpu stock?

These just seem extremely cool running considering the voltage. Also will 1.5v be safe 24/7? That sounds like it could be a bit much for 55nm.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
12-03-2007, 04:16 AM
Astennu

Quote:

Originally Posted by kemist

Just wondering if 1.325v seems extremely high for stock volts on 55nm process to anyone else? What was hd2900 vgpu stock?

These just seem extremely cool running considering the voltage. Also will 1.5v be safe 24/7? That sounds like it could be a bit much for 55nm.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this?

Yeah i thought the same. Stock R600 volts was 1.2 i believe. I wonder why they need this much voltage. You expect the RV670 would run on 1.2 aswell. To bad voltage control is not working else i could test the max on 1.2v for the HD3870 cards. But i think the HD3850 run a v-core close to 1.2v.
12-03-2007, 03:34 PM
slugzkea

Sapphire bios useless

Nevermind lol the sapphire bios seems okay now.
12-03-2007, 03:52 PM
SnipingWaste

Quote:

Originally Posted by slugzkea

the sapphire bios is useless, it does nothing.

And after flashing it, i now have an unkown PCI Device in my device manager.

Way to go Sapphire! bunch of noobs....i'll be flashing back to the original release very soon.

Did you try atiflash -p -f -newbios 0
12-03-2007, 04:10 PM
aiya

update:

after some testing i did the other night. the techpowerup bios compared to the stock bios. the techpowerup bios is faster. i get the same scores in HL2:Lost Coast.

1920x1200 4xAA/16xAA high everything, water - reflect world

stock bios @ 860/1300 in ATI overdrive - 103fps

techpowerup bios @ 840/1224 in ATI overdrive - 104fps

i ran 3 runs with the techpowerup bios to check and all of them were 104.xxfps. i guess some divider (duhh) makes it faster or memory timings?

also techpowerup bios fixes the fan throttling, goes up to 30-35% and still quiet.
12-03-2007, 04:32 PM
slugzkea

no i used

Quote:

Originally Posted by SnipingWaste

Did you try atiflash -p -f -newbios 0

no i used
atlifhasl -p 0 -f biosname.bin

i figured out what that pci device was in device manager, it says "microsoft UAA bus driver for high definition audio"

I'm guessing that's the ATI HDMI Hd audio crap that you won't need unless you are using an HDMI TV.
12-03-2007, 04:40 PM
SnipingWaste

Quote:

Originally Posted by slugzkea

no i used
atlifhasl -p 0 -f biosname.bin

i figured out what that pci device was in device manager, it says "microsoft UAA bus driver for high definition audio"

I'm guessing that's the ATI HDMI Hd audio crap that you won't need unless you are using an HDMI TV.

Its for the onbord audio on the mother board. The driver is bugged and you can download the updated drivers from Microsoft to fix it.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/deta...ProductID=1861

PS the Command is Atiflash -p 0 -f -newbios biosname.bin

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