Nvidia has got so much integrity...
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Nvidia has got so much integrity...
Anyone other than EK have any blocks on the market for this card any time soon?
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no benckmarks from EK with the blocks on a 290x this time :(
Please stop with non-sense comment and learn french. You'll see that people are not happy to see such a crappy reference cooler and a crazy power consumption.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
AMD critized Fermi but now, they are on it. (Fermi was good overclocker though)
As you say, give up your red glasses look with your own eyes what you're are looking about : A hot power hog card with no margin and looks what nVidia can do in silence with mesurate power consumption and important OC capacbilities when you pass the 1.21v limit.
edit : And who cares about Titan ? 780 beats it since many months for way less money. Titan means nothing, it just show that GK110 has almost a year in advance compared to this opponent.
Thanks brother :up:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace123
Now do I grab a ref 290x or wait again for non-ref (Lightning)?
Im a water bencher, having owned a few vid cards now I tend to think that Lightning etc are great but tending towards overkill for water (except 680 with its green light limitations), Lightnings really suit world record persuit on LN . I have had great results with ref cards as long as you can get some volts into them, so volts + water + unlocked bios = benching fun.
But they did say they will do 1200+Quote:
Originally Posted by bill_d
:)
The worlds fastest card is 550$ !!! If you see anything else you must be stupid or something. I apologise but really man ....
and
you can easily spend 100$ some time later slap some monster 3slot 3fan cooler and OC .
Time to sell one lightning and get a 290x lightning aussie ... then later sell the 780 lightning and get 780 ti lightning !!
Would love to see a non reference 8GB overclocked card from one of their AIB's, which will probably happen soon enough.
My 780L is on ebay now .... making way for new toysQuote:
Originally Posted by Zloyd
:D
Its hardly proven to be the worlds fastest. The max I have seen this thing clock is 1400ish and that's with liquid nitrogen. And that's not going to take down a 1800mhz + titan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zloyd
Even with regular models, gtx 780 and 290x at max overclocks are somewhere around the same speed. The gtx 780 overclocks further which makes up for the clock/clock deficiency.
In addition, he has a lightning which will likely favor the gtx 780 compared to the stock 290x.
Even without taking the noise into account and power, I think your getting the same speed. So it will be a side grade.
If you really want a 290x, wait for the after market version of the card with an upgraded PCB. You bought the lightning version of the gtx 780 for the reason and I think the 290x needs a lightning version even more to deal with the extreme power requirements.
Wait for a 290x lightning and I think you will have a lot more fun with your card without frying it.
I think selling the gtx lightning would be rash and you will just have wasted your money for the loss you would take on the lightning.
All very true mate, my concern is that NVidia already devalued my 780 Lightning when they announced the 780Ti so soon afterwards.
Anyway, this is the AMD thread so I am keen to try water on a pair of 290x's.
:)
In my opinion 290x is more future proof. You got a lot to look forward to.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
290x
- Mantle
- TrueAudio
- Console ports that are optimised for GCN
- Driver improvements
780L
- PhysX
- Less power and more quiet (subjective)
290X has just launched, imagine when AMD starts optimizing Catalyst for Hawaii ;). Fun times ahead!
I do trust HARDOCP in game testing about 100% more than PCG any testing and I speak some german plus even if PCG is right and they only traded punches at 4K it still does make R9-290X 100% better deal. I'm not ready to pay $2000 for 2 Video Cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
For me Titan was not worth $1000 about 8 months ago and definitely not now when it's dead.
There is no need for me to learn French, I did learn English as third language so I can read many more reliable reviews. I already explained why for me the R9-290X is by far the best deal, also I'm very sorry I can't take any advice from green glasses people. You also do not need to take any advice from me, but please note this is AMD video card thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Also GTX 780 did not beat Titan many months ago, actually it still does not beat it today. Just think a little bit, if you were right Nvidia would not need to announce GTX 780 Ti
IMHO, a comparison with Titan is not valid, since its not just a GPU. Its a cross between GeForce and Tesla, and that's why it mandates such a high price. If gamers bought it, its their problem, but nVIDIA always said that it is a special edition because of that.
The GTX780 should be the correct comparison. Granted, its still more expensive, but not double the price.
Making a comparison with Titan just serves to put the 290X in a better light than it really has.
An Oced GTX780 beats the crap out of Titan. nVIDIA is announcing the GTX780Ti because it will be faster than Titan itself, to beat/match the 290X.Quote:
Also GTX 780 did not beat Titan many months ago, actually it still does not beat it today. Just think a little bit, if you were right Nvidia would not need to announce GTX 780 Ti
PCGH is much more trustworthy than HardOCP. For starters, they document the way they test in detail, [H] does not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
Second, they warm up the cards to generate realistic load for Boost 2.0 and Powertune 2.0, [H] does not.
Third, most US sites now tested 290X in quiet and uber mode but neglected to loosen the reigns on Titan/780 as well. All Nvidia cards with Boost 2.0 have a 80C temperature target, Hawaii has 95C in both modes. If they test uber mode, they should also test with Nvidia power and temperature targets maxed.
The 290X is a decent card, but it is hardly any better than Titan if at all in terms of performance. Titans value has been killed by the 780 and its custom versions already and it is going to be EOL soon. The 780 Ti will be a much more worthy competitor for the 290X in terms of performance and especially value. I would wait at least until mid November (the custom versions of the 290X will be delayed until December anyway according to some news from today) for final judgement on this fall's cards.
You right, most off the reviews must have been wrong. Just maybe it's about good time to let AMD have 10 minute fame before we see what GTX 780 Ti can do and for how much, but even than there is still going to be good time to say , thanks AMD.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
You definitely right, I'm noob and you compare OC card vs reference card. Every day I learn something new, ThanksQuote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
You are missing the point. If a GTX780 with little OC beats Titan, a GTX780Ti (which is coming in mid-November, cut the crap about "who knows when) might possibly beat 290X.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
Besides 290X is probably OC from default, to have such high temps. The card is being pushed to its limits to be where it is.
I hope ATI are working on 290xt !!! or is that too much to hope that they have something even faster by Feb 2014.
Don't tire yourself he will not understand what we are saying and he will continue to say that GTX 780 $650 card can't beat Titan $1000 Although we know all Reviews sites Said GTX 780 $650 with some OC can beat Titan $1000. But he will say no that card can't beat Titan and will say thanks AMD :D he forgot that who helped to put R9 290X price like this is NVIDIA new upcoming card Because announced before the launch of the R9 290X card so the competitor on the road and as we actually see R9 290X came with perfect Price Because of that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Picao84
A) that was not the point, read my original reply and it was not directed towards "the last meal" so you're completely changing the topic for sake of an argument and I did not miss anything, maybe he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Picao84
B) yes i did hear about GTX 780 Ti coming in the middle off November without any info about the card whats so ever. I have to admit I do have a little doubt about the date, unless Nvidia was working on the GTX 780 Ti long time before AMD announced the R9 cards. in that case I wonder what the card was supposed to replace and for how much.
Off course this is just my speculation and I'm going to be pleasantly surprised if we see GTX 780 Ti in stores around Nov 15
About OC by default LOL, guess new category for the reference card and the card can't be OC at all with proper cooling. I think this subject was already talk about in this thread many times over.
You're a lot mixed up what cards were announced first. It was the RT7, RT8 and R9 with lots off info. Nivdia reacted announcing the GTX 780 Ti with only info, it's going to be fast cool and quiet. So it was Nvidia reacting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
About pricing AMD traditionally keeps the prices lower, well at least most time.
Please read again before you call me again noob, thanks in advance. I did not say if OC GTX 780 can beat reference GTX Titan, I ONLY THINK , it's not the best comparison since TItan also overclock and i certainly was not defending Titan price.
Also please note this is AMD thread i do promise not to troll in GTX 780 Ti thread just for the sake off arguing.
fypQuote:
Originally Posted by kam03
Ok guys lets knock off the personal attacks. Consider this a warning because vacations will be issued next without warning.
Also let's stay on topic please.
Quotes such as "world's fastest" should ALWAYS be taken as a stock-for-stock comparison. Duh, when you overclock all bets are off. But that's not the point at the moment. MOST people aren't going to go hog wild overclocking.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
I personally don't give a rip about Gsync. I am not spending oodles of money on new hardware and a licensed screen just to prevent the occasional screen tear that I almost never see in the first place anyway, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I'd much rather have something like Mantle (if it proves to be adopted and useful) and TrueAudio (again, if it proves to be a benefit) vs gsync that requires not just the card but extra special hardware too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
What's this talk of overclocked cards beating stock other cards? Quit being petty. Stock card vs stock, overclocked vs overclocked. If the 780 doesn't beat the Titan or the 290x with both at factory, then it doesn't beat it. That leaves the two fastest cards in the comparison for top dog. It IS at the moment R9 290x, then Titan, and in third Gtx 780. Whether GTX 780ti changes that remains to be seen.
As I see it at stock, the gtx titan and r290x are equals. They trade blows with each other enough times that there is no clear winner. AND if you warm of the cards before hand, it loses a few points to Titan. In addition, remove of couple gaming evolved titles from the testing suite(sleeping dogs or dirt showdown) and it becomes even more contestable what is fastest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace123
The only time it does become faster in most settings, is if you turn on a uber setting(which is not turned on by default) where it is uncomfortable loud and basically has an overclock on it.
I wasn't talking about overclocked cards beating stock cards either. I was talking taking cards to the max with ln2 with both cards. Since I thought aussie revhead was into benching and we are talking about world records and benchmarking, I think we should talk about max overclocks of both cards.
Titan from day 1, could reach past 1700mhz(they are well past this now closing in on 1900mhz). And with Titan and r9 290x being so similar clock for clock as seen from the hardware.de review, that advantage is enough to keep it as the worlds fastest from a benching overclockers standpoint.
There's no overclocking on Uber mode, the only thing who change is the fan speed who is higher.. the max clock is allways the same, but it maintain it more as the temperature is less quickly reached but it is louder.. so you do a choice. Maybe we can say the fanspeed is overclocked. Ofc, this will be down really quickly if you have an AIB version with a different cooler but who run too at 1ghz.Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
As for LN2, well it will be more determined by performance scaling with clock....
I dont know if driver can improve performance, maybe yes maybe not, but i see on some game some behaviour when compared to the 7970ghz... so there's maybe a good possibility we will seen some performance increase ( not by much, but who know on the case by case ).. Then in some months, the game panel could too be really different, there's many games in preparation, i can allready see some who fill favor Nvidia coming and some who will favor AMD.
Tajoh- yes I benchmark, I enjoy it, I like to get the most out of all of my hardware but I'm not an LN bencher so I like to look at stock comparison but also potential to push further. Nvidia seem to like having a lot of headroom compared to AMD, this can be seen clearly in the current 780/290x/Titan battle. This being an enthusiast website, and we are all enthusiasts, so overclocked performance is a very important point. I look forward to water cooled 290's and modded bios to unleash the hidden power, then we will see if 290 holds the crown at the end but it is very close so the competition will be fun.
Again I am talking synthetic benchmarks, actual gaming performance is a whole seperate ball game with so many variables to influence results. I will be comparing BF4 at 2560x1440 as this is my current need.
Guys can you post up clocks and bench results? I haven't seen any do 1200mhz yet but I'm sure it will come soon.
:D
I'm dieing to see some 290x results on water myself.
Hopefully, they shouldn't be to far away. After all, there are water blocks already on sale. Surely someone on here must have one or two.Quote:
Originally Posted by BababooeyHTJ
Like how TWIMTBP titles should have been pulled also?Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
Actually doesn't leave a whole lot if you pull titles that may have optimizations for one brand or the other.
70 $ add mk 26 and it will be the FASTEST CARD IN THE UNIVERSE EVER !!! even after 780 panic edition comes out.
That thing looks crazy http://media.bestofmicro.com/prolima...-374875-13.jpg
That is nuts. Looks like it will take up 4 PCI-e slots :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace123
That. Is. BEAUTIFUL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace123
Yip, as I said a few weeks ago and explained why:Quote:
Originally Posted by tajoh111
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Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
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Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
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Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
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Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Ace123, how are you defining stock speeds? If NVIDIA reference speeds only, then by all means. If you're allowing for AIB partner overclocks such as the EVGA GTX 780 Classified and Zotac GeForce GTX 780 AMP! Edition both sitting around 1150 MHz out of the box (stock?), then no, the GTX 780 and GTX TITAN swap places until you crank up the resolution.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace123
Ace - what is that? It looks like a 7990 with a heat pipe CPU cooler on each gpu ....
Hurry with the water results guys. I have a UNI block but no stores here have 290x in stock ....
:(
Yes please.Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
I sent an email to performance pc. Apparently they'll have blocks on Tuesday.
lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
I betcha also OC your bike when doing passes over at eastern creek ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by aussie-revhead
one of my colleagues has a 12zx r with a huge turbo..... bike OC'ed to the max :D
AMD R9 290X All volt Mods done by the master , the only one Shamino. Follow the link for all the information and instructions + downloads. At klngpln forum:
http://kingpincooling.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2473 , As per Shamino : " you are responsible for your own modding!
"
Enjoy it ! and Thank you so much Peter.
Dual slot MSI twin frozr will be nice to see
could not see the results image, bad link, but I dare say he got some whoop ass scores with those hard mods.Quote:
Originally Posted by chispy
haha ZX14 is next on my shopping list (after I convince the missus lol)Quote:
Originally Posted by kuroikenshi
Thanks chispy, now all we need is stock on the shop shelves ... Asus bios seems to unlock 2.0v so is there a need to vmod (on water not LN)?
:)
Thats that mk 26 that guy was talking about
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Pro...ler,21315.html
Can anyone please tell me if the 290x has the same crappy shim around the gpu (like 7970 does)? I hope not ...
:)
havent seen a shim yet...
:eek::D:ROTF::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
I thought that was pretty funny myself. Well done to whoever came up with that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
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Originally Posted by Tha Last Meal
I thought this one was much more funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by MaddMuppet
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I think they are both well done and like I said, Kudos to whoever came up with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heinz68
This Radeon video is absolutely cool, and REAL!
first time i have seen the nvidia one.
better made then the ati one, which is giant sized. out of touch with reality.
95c can cook a steak though. after a very very very very very very very very very very very long time.
like 8 hours
AMD working on R9 280X with Tahiti XTL GPU
AMD Really:confused:?
R9 280X $300 is currently the best deal at the moment Because R9 280X as we know have the same Performance for both HD 7970GHZ /GTX 770.
so is this means that the new card will be more expensive? hmmmm
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According to info from Ocaholic.ch, AMD is still working on an R9 280X version based on an updated Tahiti XTL GPU which should be ready sometime in November and silently replace the R9 280X currently running on the Tahiti XT2 GPU.
AMD apparently plans to do a "running change" which means that there will be no announcements for the new GPU or even a name change for the R9 280X graphics card and the only way to differentiate these cards is to check out the BIOS version. As always, these rumors should be taken with a grain of salt since nothing is carved in stone and AMD can simply use the new GPU to launch a new graphics card under a different name but currently AIB partners have been told that it will be a running change.
According to the same source, Tahiti XTL should have a lower power consumption and thus cooler. Unfortuantely, it is still not clear if there will be any specification changes, higher clocks or changes in the feature set. Eventually someone will spot it when it hits retail/e-tail in November.
maybe its optimization of the lines, cheaper to produce. using less power and being cooler. means they can cut costs elsewhere. and do a price drop again.
if the XTL ends up in 270's and 280's, could easily bring prices down another $50 maybe even $75.
like 7870 tahiti, and 7970 , 270 280.
plus might be for only third parties, to do their own designs around, giving a greater advantage to them. for overclocking potential.
maybe it will be cool enough to passively cool, at 7850 perf levels using a tripple slot cooler.
It's maybe the Tahiti TSMC HPL 28nm version and not the HP process anymore ?
I think soQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
28nm low power with high-k metal gates (HPL)
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Getting ready to push that vacation button any second.
I am only on my first cup of coffee so go ahead, make my day !
That is beyond excellent!!!! :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Don't get me wrong, I'm very impressed, and I'm not trolling but that is hilarious.
When u see 6 titles out of 8. That's too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparky
Posted a bit further,Quote:
Originally Posted by kuroikenshi
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/7315/fi72.jpg
Note the record on hwbot with a titan at 1809mhz ( Kingpin ) is at 50 pnts over this one.. nice clock scaling..
Some nice clocks on CPU and GPU there. That CPU voltage is scary though. Would love to know what hardware mods they did to the 290x.
Hey man some times you just gotta go #YOLOQuote:
Originally Posted by MaddMuppet
Is the tesslation on ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
Nice achievement by coolice anyway :up:
The final score is skewed by the physics score due to the difference in CPU clock speed, the GPU score tells the story.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lanek
http://www.hwbot.org/submission/2428...an_22593_marks
You're right. But going even further just look at individual scores:
R290X - Titan
GT1 95.01 - 118.87
GT2 116.73 - 116.21
GT3 155.61 - 147.48
GT4 75.04 - 69.61
PT 67.87 - 65.83
CT 81.98 - 78.64
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-r9-29...#ixzz2isblrx5HQuote:
The Radeon R9 290 will be powered with an 8+6 Pin power configuration which represents a TDP of over 250W. The display outputs include Dual-DVI, HDMI and Display port with Eyefinity compatibility and just like its bigger brother, it is supposed to run games at 4K resolution with ease. The Radeon R9 290 would hit the market on 31st October for a price of around $449.The results we are looking at shows that the Radeon R9 290 is just a few percentages ahead of the GeForce GTX 780 at reference clocks but performance surpasses the GeForce GTX Titan when overclocked. The most notable thing here is that the temperatures between the R9 290X and R9 290 are same featuring the same cooler and has two profiles (Uber/Quiet Modes). The TDP of the card is around 250W and you can see the performance and Frame Rating test in the charts at the bottom of this article
Includes all Feature Highlights of AMD Catalyst 13.11 Beta
Includes support for the new products:
AMD Radeon? R9 290X
AMD Radeon R9 290
Performance improvements
Batman: Arkham Origins - improves performance up to 35% with MSAA 8x enabled
Total War?: Rome 2 - improves performance up to 10%
Battlefield 3 - improves performance up to 10%
GRID 2 - improves performance up to 8.5%
DiRT Showdown - improves performance up to 10%
Formula 1? 2013 - improves performance up to 8%
DiRT 3 - improves performance up to 7%
Sleeping Dogs - improves performance up to 5%
Automatic AMD Eyefinity Configuration
Automatic "plug and play" configuration of supported Ultra HD/4K tiled displays
http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-arti...dows-beta.aspx
That's an excellent question..Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
I wonder why there are no results of 290x watercooled? ( Not even from waterblock manufacturers)
I mean, people already have cards, waterblocks are available for purchase as well
:confused:
maybe while testing they saw that they found a new heat source for steam engine??? :PQuote:
Originally Posted by SpuTnicK
i think we will see in 1 week.
Hmm..
http://hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=...1&postcount=18Quote:
Originally Posted by cageymaru
I'm still not going to install it.
posted by EK_tiborrr at another forumQuote:
Originally Posted by SpuTnicK
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Water temp ~ 33?C, full load 45?C Furmark IIRC @ 1200/1600MHz.
second post:
Our card does 1200/1600 Furmark stable easy peasy, with regular BIOS and no voltmods.
this temps are pretty much meaningless, no ambient temp or what components where used in the water cooling setup.
According to multiple reports Radeon R9 290 will easily beat GeForce GTX 780 in almost any game or benchmark. Of course that?s while being priced significantly lower (even 290X is cheaper) than GTX 780. Earlier leak from Overclockers UK revealed that overclocked R9 290 can even beat the R9 290X or the TITAN in some scenarios.
The R9 290 will be released on October 31st, for the price around $399 to $449 (to be confirmed).
http://videocardz.com/images/2013/10...ce-581x620.png
http://videocardz.com/47294/amd-rade...formance-leaks
Is there a results thread for these? I hear chispy has some great scores up.
:)
Radeon R9 290 (non-X) Launch Pushed Back a Week
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Launch of AMD's Radeon R9 290 (non-X) is reportedly pushed back by a week, to Tuesday, November 5, 2013. The card was expected to launch on October 31, 2013. The reason for this delay? AMD reportedly developed a new driver that significantly improves performance on the R9 290. AMD pushed this driver onto reviewers at the last minute, and asked them to re-bench their R9 290 samples from scratch, extending their NDA till the 5th. The driver reportedly makes the R9 290 extremely competitive with GeForce GTX 780. A side-effect of that would be that the recently launched Radeon R9 290X could be rendered unattractive. It remains to be seen if the driver also proportionately improves performance on the R9 290X, and how AMD ends up pricing the R9 290.
Upcoming graphics cards launches:
http://videocardz.com/47439/amd-rade...shed-back-weekQuote:
AMD Radeon R9 290 — November 5th
Hawaii PRO with 2560 Stream Processors and 4GB memory.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 780 Ti — November 7th
A faster TITAN with (supposedly) 2688 CUDA cores.
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti — mid-November
GK106 with 960 CUDAs
NVIDIA GeForce GTX TITAN Ultra– December
I won’t believe it until I see it
Its nice to see Nvidia with its pants down, names are getting pretty ridiculous :) .TITAN ULTRA HULK SMASH edition ;-) .
Anyway, so thats why theres no 290 reviews today.Competition is heating up properly, who knows ,maybe this christmas there will be actual price reductions instead of pumping the price up!
No Trolling please !
Caught with their pants down by releasing an uncrippled version of almost year old silicon? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by vario
Don't believe everything that VideoCardz is reporting, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that NVIDIA isn't releasing four cards faster than the current GTX 780 (they forgot the "780 GHz Edition" i.e. a revised core) :rofl:
I'm surprised by the amount of BS being tossed about by several well respected sites as of late.
Surprise no site "leaked" their 290 review, claiming they never got the delay to Nov 5 email.
Heh, that box picture sure gives a hot impression ;).
Well, i didnt mean that nvidia didnt have the answer for it ready, however it seems they were surprised by how good ati offering turned out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by [XC] Oj101
Price reductions, new models, all just after r290x premiere.All in all quite a mess on nvidia side.Dont get me wrong, i KNOW that fully enabled GK110 is a better chip overall (quite a big bigger too tho),and dont forget that fully enabled GK110 were hard to come by, defects on them for some time were very high.
All i see however, is pure gold.Hawaii made all our lives better :)
And if Titan Ultra is going to be real, IT IS going to be funny.
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Originally Posted by boxleitnerb
this will give a better idea as to when to expect. (too lazy to open up a new thread)
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/other/d..._Quarters.html
I won't call an hot, noisy, power hungry and already overclocked chip pure gold.
Seems AMD got problems with 2304sp neutered GK110 version (and now, with the price cut, that's even worse) so with the 2880sp, we all know the coming result.
I got good expectations regarding Hawaii but I'm quite disappointed from what AMD deliver to us.
So.. every GPU ever, is not pure gold. Ok, I can agree to thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
780Ti will probably beat 290x for now, at low resolution. At high resolution it probably could be anyone's game.Quote:
Seems AMD got problems with 2304sp neutered GK110 version (and now, with the price cut, that's even worse) so with the 2880sp, we all know the coming result.
Totally, only dropped the prices of the GPU market. I guess you like $650+ 780's though by your other posts.Quote:
I got good expectations regarding Hawaii but I'm quite disappointed from what AMD deliver to us.
Just forced competition to drop prices is all it did. What a flop. So far this card has delivered with exception to cooling but after watching a friend play BF4 on 50% fan for an hour the bashing of heat/noise is def overblown hyperbole. For now on, take all the heat/noise complainers ( that do not own) it with a grain of salt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Right, why Vario uses this term, I don't know.Quote:
Originally Posted by STEvil
From the review I read, I tend to believe that 780Ti will win in 1080p and 1440pQuote:
780Ti will probably beat 290x for now, at low resolution. At high resolution it probably could be anyone's game.
In 2160p maybe but that a really small market niche. Screens are really expensive and when 4K will arise, other archs will come and will put GK110 and Hawaii ashamed.
I already said that price is the most important point with Hawaii.Quote:
Totally, only dropped the prices of the GPU market. I guess you like $650+ 780's though by your other posts.
Drop market prices but finally don't get market share up is no success for AMD. nVidia price slash is not really a surprise and was expected also as GK110 had no competitor until now.
i just wish there was block button in this forum some users are really annoying. Wth you are still commenting on product if you clearly don't like brand or card . This is like mission to some fanatics seems they think that their beloved company will pay for their royality lol
I'm not fanatic at all.
I did buy an HD 7970 card in response of Titan launch.
I' m a long time ATI/AMD/Intel/nVidia user. Changing camp is no problem for me.
Jeez, seems like you cant get either sayings nor sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olivon
Well if were being literal here, chip cant be noisy too you know, and most chips are hot (a chip as in silicon chip, not a potato chip!).
However i called it "pure gold" as in "a very good thing that has come to us" because it was much needed in this market, prices were going up up.Now, maybe hawaii isnt bringing down titan at low res, and it will get beaten at low res by its successor (which you know, will be more power hungry and hotter to achieve this).But its VERY VERY important that because of this you will get even an opportunity to buy this 780 ti ,and moreover not at the 1500$ price tag.
And for some, god forbid, 290X is a good value with good performance ,having on top of that trueaudio and mantle support means that this 20W higher power consumption in gaming (because you know, a niche number of people play furmark) is not going to matter.
And to say that high res for this types of cards is a niche market, is well at least doubtful statement.
Btw ,you do know that 290x in its QUIET setting is OVERALL a bit faster than 780 ? Delievered too you at premiere at 100$ less.Yeah ,what a fail (that was a SARCASTIC statement).
Chill peoples, it's pretty much the holiday season you know.
Everyone should be happy with both nvidia and amd.
Regardless if you don't care either way or not.
Time for update dude.Quote:
Originally Posted by vario
Here in France, 780 custom OC model (1059MHz GPU + 3 games) cost less than a 290X which is not available anyway.
Several articles mentionned that first batch of cards delivered was too small though.