That's it settled then.
These reservoirs cannot take the vibrations from the pump.
Time to put this project to sleep and move on.
What a bloody waste of time and effort.
I think it's time primochill recalled and refunded these things.
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That's it settled then.
These reservoirs cannot take the vibrations from the pump.
Time to put this project to sleep and move on.
What a bloody waste of time and effort.
I think it's time primochill recalled and refunded these things.
damnit...Quote:
Originally Posted by The Byter
Mine is still dry, but I've got it very-soft mounted (<<10Hz). What setting were you running the d5 at? I was right at the point of having enough confidence in it to take it out of my bench setup and put it back in a case. How did you have it mounted?
DB, how did the t3 in the green nvidia case pictured on the cover of cpu mag hold up?
Man, t3 is such a disaster. Great design, very wrong material :)
Is there some other moldable plastic which is less fragile than this?
Also, do other acrylic reservoirs use a different glue, which is not affected by ethylene glycol? Only PC mentions that EG is bad for their res.
that was a Danger Den res. I have a Typhoon III in my Skulltrail server at the clinic that is not leaking but it looks like it has a couple small cracks on the top screws. I have a DD res to replace it when I have time to do so.Quote:
Originally Posted by meanmoe
I'm sorry, but I'm not seeing enough info to convince me that that is a rev A...and I learned a long time ago to not take anything at face value on the net. I know a few ppl that would love to see the T3 be written off as a huge failure and would stoop to some scummy tactics to achieve their goal. I'd like to know what coolant was used, How long the T3 was installed before the damage occurred...and most importantly, I'd like to see the package label the T3 came in.
Yep, mine is the same way. I started to really look at it when I pulled it out after my PrimoChill fitting broke on me. (Pretty certain that was partly my fault as it seemed I did tighten it a bit too much. :shakes:)Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I can see cracks forming around the screws myself. The res still didn't leak at least. It probably would have sooner or later though. :(
Well, guess I will wait a bit longer and see what happens. I was thinking of RMA'ing it, but if they are still having issues I may just end up trashing it.
After seeing stock at my favorite e-tailer.... (and thinking issues are behind us -also it must be a rev-A) I ordered and installed 4 days ago...Still running my rig sitting in a huge casserole dish in the event of any leaks...but so far so good.
I have some other issues like I'm surprised at the weld joint - looks amateurish (uneven and lots of bubbles in it) but you can't see that when mounted in the case - so not sure how much of a issue this is.
Looks like a well thought out design...just the materials and/or manufacturing.
4 days isn't enough time to make a statement....but not a drop anywhere - love the design I have to say.
Where is the premium version made of the same delrin material that the split window version is made from?
Geno never sold that design to Primochill so they won't be making it, the last I heard, Geno was still planing on shopping the design to other companies.Quote:
Originally Posted by DTR
such a shame, great design but horrible execution
I heard Thermaltake offered a mint for the design and material spec sheet of the defective T3s as they would be great fit for the existing TT product line.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
that would be interestingQuote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
I should mention that Primochill included optional (thicker) o-rings that I'm using with Bitspower 1/2 barbs - and no leaking at all.
I tried the ghost fittings but if you have to remove them...I found that the collar of the ghost fittings was binding with the tubing (Primoflex) and made it difficult - so switched to the bitspower barbs.
Also used the include o-ring (w/ reservoir) for the pump (thinner) than the thicker one that came with the pump.
Biggest issue off the top of my head (4 days in) is the non-standard mounting screws - with an incredibly small allan key (must be the smallest one) - smaller that a 5/64. If you lose these tiny screws...you cannot use any standard (computer type) replacement. So if it drops while trying to put it in...your going to spend 10 minutes looking for it.
These are just my unedited impressions - still love the design and function - mostly since my unit is not leaking :)
Edit: Running my pump (Swiftnets MCP655 (D5)) on # 3 setting
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
My bad - wrong acrylic bay res ;)... I had the magazine sitting in my living room. My son ripped the cover before I got a chance to really see it (w/o the rip). The skulltrail would be a terrible thing to lose.
Like I said. The tissue under mine (rev.A) is still dry, ~460hrs now. And as far as I can tell, no cracks. It's a very very soft mount, distilled + 1/10th dose of utopia (it's all I had after all the leaking, and replacing).
I want this to be it. I love looking at it... with the black facplate, little white led, and gentle hum of the D5... Mmmm sex.
EDIT: I run between setting 2 and 3. 3 is really too noisy for me open-air.
I keep hearing it is Vibrations from the Pump, so I used little glue backed FELT TABS on the bottom of my res to dampen the vibrations and so far both the original and the rev A have not cracked on me. But the first one did rust out on the fill port screws. The Rev A has plastic fill port screws so no rust and thats one step forward.
I don't know if the felt pads will help, but I know they won't hurt either and I can't feel much in the way of vibration either.
I have placed my bluray drive under my T3 and sandwiched a sheet of bubblewrap covered in felt between the two and no problems at all.
The bluray drive is now supporting the T3 and pump.
Before The T3 and pump were only supported by the screws at the side.
I think not having the T3 use the case rails in my cosmos s have affected the stability of it.
Excessive I know but necessary.
No cracks or leaks yet!
Tbh, considering how bendy and unstable some cases are today, I'm not surprised that a hard plexi part that is screwed tight to it will crackQuote:
Originally Posted by Barso
i'm sure if you made a tray styled thing out of alu and screwed it into the drive bay and had your t3 sit inside it with some padding it would be a solution?
Well this kinda bums me out, but Primo has had some time to work this out. I've still got well over 2 yrs. on my warranty.
It seems my T3 will never go anywhere but my bench. I'll just never trust it up in a case.:shakes:
DB, I'd get that thing out of your most awesome of Vet servers ASAP.
Love your sense of humor on this, my only enjoyment on reading this thread.:yepp:
Why "bench only"? I'd think that if it proves itself over time that you'd be willing to trust it and put it in a build.Quote:
Originally Posted by the finisher
Perhaps yes, time will tell. but I've moved on to other solutions as mine is an original w/top port. Vapors original 8 port fell apart all on it's own, he never mounted in a case only Velcroed it to his test bench.:shakes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
Like I said time will tell, I have 0 in confidence in my current T3, every time It seems like it's fixed, It seems it's not.
I will not attempt a rma till I think It's fixed. I'm not going on just 1 poster on this, I have this thread pushed to my mobile, and follow w/great interest.
Well, 1 negative poster is all I've seen so far concerning the Rev A, and they haven't really given quality details so....Quote:
Originally Posted by the finisher
I agree;) Rev. A could be OK, I hope so, I wish no ill will on Primo. As they appear to be working hard on making this good:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
My 8 port is still working fine :confused:
The acrylic at the case mounting holes is starting to crack though and it's never been mounted in a case...but no leaks yet fortunately.
OK think I misread.:shrug: I'm going back to reread, thanks for the update on current status of yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vapor
Edit: Reread, good to know it has lasted 1 mo. w/the cracks, but still not leaking. I still wouldn't have it up in a case though.
Yeah, sorry if it was confusing. It's still alive and well but it's showing warning signs :(
It's going away when I upgrade my testbed, just to avoid catastrophe :)
What do you think, does this ruin the look?? At first I thought the bubbles in the seam (weld joint) would be unseen when mounted in the case....but now I realize that you can see it through the frame.
PS: sorry about the small cropped photo...size was an issue.
PPS: anyone know a good image reducer?
Photo removed and no, its not anti-freeze - just was a crappy photo - will redo later.Quote:
Hope that's not anti-freeze in that T3!!!
Edit: DTR, can you please edit you photo, it's the first post on the page, stretches it for no good reason. Please I can't really see the bubbles your talking about. Thanks.
I use VSO, and I suggest you do to! :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DTR
Polycarbonate gets my vote...this video always amuses and impresses me..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hsls5ZPCUnE
Brutal:rofl: Lexan FTW! Make's me not ever want to touch acrylic again, especially for a res.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinm210
I guess case windows, DD cases, and such, it is still good, but the stuff is down right fragile compared to the polycarb, or POM!
I have my new T3 running all by itself in the garage using a stand alone power supply. In the loop I have just a T3 and a DD GTX240 and its been running 24/7 for 2 weeks now since I got the replacement ( pics on page 60 of this thread ) and I haven't had any leaks or cracks yet. I'm going to give it another week and throw it into my case. I'll just make sure its on the bottom of my drive bays so if it does leak it will be minimal damage. The first one did leak on me and it wasn't pretty.
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Originally Posted by Martinm210
Wow...now that you (I) know the difference...why would anyone ever touch acrylic again...it should follow the dodo.Quote:
Originally Posted by the finisher
WOW - some dorkfish on another forum thought I meant this literally. Hint: Thermaltake makes H20 blocks that leak like crazy . . . .Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
http://img507.imageshack.us/img507/1...07827ci.th.jpghttp://img45.imageshack.us/img45/776...stom1hk.th.jpg
Just so you guys do not get the wrong idea.
Darn it, Al Gore stole my idea for the intraweb. I could have been filthy rich.
:rofl::rofl::rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
So does that mean that manbearpig isn't real either?!?!?!
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Originally Posted by DTR
So what do you think (much better photo attached).
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
:ROTF::ROTF::ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
Oh, manbearpig is real alright, just look @ Al. ;)
Guess the $30 face plate is now mandatory.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by DTR
No it is very reelz and I am being very cereal right now! :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
I like frosted mini-wheats with my res. ^_^
up!
any news on the t3 front?
has the new revision proven itself?
If anyone else is like me they have been waiting months now for a new one. I'm starting to wonder if I'll get it before 1 year past the day I bought it. I guess i got a few more months to wait for that tho, well see.......Quote:
Originally Posted by bobruto
Have you contacted him lately? Mine started to leak last week (original design) and he's shipping me Rev. A today. I purchased the typhoon direct from primochill.
Harlock328
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaytaro
In Nov 6 of 2009 I had recieved a new rma Primochill Typhoon III do to defects of the older version ,Brian from Primochill had helped me get replaced with a updated version. Its been 5 months and I have had not any problems till today , as I saw some water on the front , went to wipe down with a towel and it seems a hairline crack has opened around the left plug from above and below... sending them a rma request I hope they have a newer version , cuase i really like how it works :confused:
Just wanted to up this up to see how this was going on.
I picked mine up a few days ago, set it up today and seems good.
Came with a few defects, but I believe this is normal, no leaks as of yet.
No more steel fittings included... all plastic now. Maybe I'll get a pic up later, but looks good so far. Hopefully it'll last a while.
I have almost the exact same story as you, and cracked in almost the same spot. I just got my new Rev "A" the glue job is um well ......, however everything it working good so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_real_7
Well, I spoke too soon. I have yet to receive my T3. Left phone messages and e-mails with no response from the company. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by harlock328
Going to throw my Rev A in my case this weekend. Wish me luck.... My first 2 cracked on me....
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Originally Posted by the_real_7
Add another to the cracked from left port count. :shakes: goes right across and into frame on right side.
This is a rev A so what happened to all the talk of these Pro's in CA :shrug:
It suxs to love a design so much you want to ignore the flaws (manufacturing)...but I would suggest others hold off till confirmation that new versions are holding their own. Kills me to say it :mad:
I think the left port is out of spec. I had some difficulty getting a fitting not to leak there. I used a little more force than I was comfortable doing but it didn't help. Finally I used a different o-ring and it sealed up.
Let us know how primochill responds. They still owe me the correct version, w/top fillport. Bleeding this thing without isn't fun - especially when tubes slide off the ghost comp fittings so easily.
Can you post a pic of the crack? Also, when did you get it and how long have you been running it before the crack appeared?
I can agree, same experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by meanmoe
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Originally Posted by meanmoe
At first, lots of contact (emails) but then dead silence -no replacement, no Eta and no response to my request for followup.Quote:
Originally Posted by harlock328
Had it installed days before I noticed what I thought was a machining/tooling mark from the left port - later realized it was a hairline crack which just continued to spread. Was running my machine in a giant casserole dish, but had to take my machine down for fear of a leak to flood event that ruins other components.Quote:
Originally Posted by Captain_Harlock
Photos:
Full unit / front
http://img682.imageshack.us/img682/7...gp0280m.th.jpg
Left half
http://img683.imageshack.us/img683/4...gp0274i.th.jpg
Left Port
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1884/imgp0291n.th.jpg
Right Half
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/6140/imgp0277c.th.jpg
Bottom crack
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/2...gp0288t.th.jpg
Bottom Crack meeting seam of rear half
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4...gp0290j.th.jpg
Upon further reviewing, I have found that there is cracking at the pump mounting holes and in the moulding for the pump housing :eek:
While I would really like to see this work-out for everyone....but I'm really starting to get worried about a solution.
And these photo's are of a Rev A :shocked:
http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/6752/imgp0309.th.jpg
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2995/imgp0305.th.jpg
http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/3988/imgp0313oi.th.jpg
If I receive a replacement that works - I will definitely update everyone with the results / report!
:shock:
I just order Typhoon III from P-PC. I fell worry.
PS. My English very poor :p:
Well I received my replacement Rev.A res Sat. Installed it Sunday and about 3 minutes after filling and testing the cover to the outlet ports came off. I heard a snap and then I saw the covering inside the res flopping around. Needless to say I'm frustrated, been almost a month without my PC. I left Brain a message, let's hope this gets resolved soon.
Harlock328
Spoke with Brian and he's going to send me out another one asap and more fluid (since I purchased it from him originally). He did't have to send me fluid for free so I really appreciate it. He's been very professional and responsive.
Harlock328
In case no one noticed yet...
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As of May 19th 2010, PrimoChill has decided to stop production and any further pursuit of revisions to the Typhoon III Reservoir System. PrimoChill has exhausted all of its time and resources allotted for any further production on the Typhoon III Reservoir System and has decided that this effort would be better directed towards the new reservoir product line which we believe will exceed the market's expectations . We would like to thank all of our customers and resellers for their patience in working out the kinks and unforeseen events that occurred throughout the life of the T3. Primochill has and will continue to stand behind all users who have received a defective reservoir. Warranty replacements will be handled on a case by case basis.
Yeah, I think we could all see this one coming.
It's a shame as I think it was a good design. I still have the original one with a yellow band around it and it never had any issues.
Ditto. Shame to see such a great design amount to almost nothing in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Utnorris
+1 We all saw it coming though. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
correction, what a great idea or concept... the 'design' leaked (3 times). Designs must meet requirements. The requirement of a reservoir is not to leak. Of course, this of course was not helped by the execution.Quote:
Originally Posted by karbonkid
whatever, it's over...
I don't wanna start an argument dude but Geno's design was solid. Yeah, it had (non-fatal) flaws, but had it been properly manufactured and had users followed the instructions properly, it would not, imho, have cracked or leaked...Quote:
Originally Posted by meanmoe
to rob a word from Vapor, I vehemently disagree with you. Do you own one. Or better yet, do you have 3 of them sitting on the floor under your desk? The first and second of which came with no instructions. Being a bit of a designer myself (but of slightly more complex systems ;) ) I contend that the 'design' was poor... If there was a requirements tree for this thing it would say "hold water" at the very top, but they leaked and flying molds across the world and changing materials and changing fasteners and all the other applied bandaids didn't change that. A design is more than a pretty cad model man.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by meanmoe
No. Working fine to this very day, ~8 monthsQuote:
Or better yet, do you have 3 of them sitting on the floor under your desk?
Fair point.Quote:
The first and second of which came with no instructions.
Fair enough, that's your opinion. All I'm trying to say is that the T3 was much, much more than just "Hey let's stick a D5 on the back of a reservoir with 2 inlets and 2 outlets". A lot of design and thinking went into it to make that concept work. I don't want people to forget that, even if the execution was lacking in most cases.Quote:
Being a bit of a designer myself (but of slightly more complex systems ;) ) I contend that the 'design' was poor... If there was a requirements tree for this thing it would say "hold water" at the very top, but they leaked and flying molds across the world and changing materials and changing fasteners and all the other applied bandaids didn't change that.
Agreed. IMO, the problem lies in testing. The product was advertised well before launch, creating demand and I doubt any serious testing was done to make sure it worked properly over the long term - they just wanted to get it out there. But there was no way Geno could have known about the problems to come from his end. He did his job, and he did it well.Quote:
A design is more than a pretty cad model man.
Not all of them leaked though. My issue was with the Ghost fittings. I overtightened them and they broke.
My res never leaked. It does have some cracking and the choice of material wasn't the greatest, but I agree with karbonkid. Great design, poor execution.
I hope some other company can buy over the design and manufacture it,it is a pity to see such a great design go down the drain.
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Originally Posted by karbonkid
I'm going to go out on a limb and say that neither of you have any formal design/physical engineering experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by millertime359
I like Geno also... and in my mind as well, Geno gets an A for effort, but you do not qualify a design based on effort or how much you like a guy.
Testing was mentioned. Testing is part of the design process. You test to (not an all inclusive list)
a) drive down uncertainty during a design process and
b) to verify a design or validate a manufacturing process
in a case of limited testing, standard practice is to over design like hell. In this case, the design was verified by consumers... like me, and it leaked 3 times.
So my conclusion is that:
1) Geno gets and A for effort. He did what he knew. He's a nice guy and I like him.
2) The T3 is an epic failure due to the high failure rate.
3) Due partly to the hype on this forum, I became a sucker and lost money and time.
4) Primochill went above and beyond, but after the fact. (after they took our money)
Nothing personal - believe me I know we live and we learn, but lets be honest about it. Rapt0r, If I was a manufacturer I wouldn't touch the design without factoring in a large effort for re-design (based on the T3 concept).
MT, you got lucky (for now), but not all of the people that you recommended it to were as lucky. No hard feelings -- just victims of poor engineering practice.
Now all that being said, I very much appreciate the fact that someone - Geno in this case - had the balls to go out on their own and push a unique and truly innovative idea to the maketplace - KK, in this we agree very much. I also, in general, appreciate the forum for spotlighting new ideas and new products.
We want to see more innovation like this, but with this hard lesson learned.
meanmoe, I could have written this, your spot on IMO, nothing to add.Quote:
Originally Posted by meanmoe
Too bad, this sucks, oh well.:shrug:
Has Primochill stated what they will be doing with any faulty T3's now the design has been cancelled?
What will happen if mine leaks again?
This all sounds like Primo will not be able to cover failures for the next three years.
Obviously the rev A stock is as prone to failure as the earlier Chinese made ones.
Seems like very early adopters got the best ever made.
Now I'm wondering if Brian would ship me $120 worth of LTR of my choice, least I'd get something useful for my hard earned money. Also the tubing is all they have that I'd ever use.
I'll never spend another dime there now.
Seems like I'll have a chance to get another early adopter special - best ever made version - as option 3 for those with defective T3's is:Quote:
Originally Posted by the finisher
=> Wait for Typhoon IV release(which you will get a free replacement). We anticipate this to be ready in 30-45 days. Will be a Delrin version with tons of new updates.
This might be the end-all-solution....er....please don't burst my bubble with facts to the contrary...lol
Do you have a e-mail conformation on that?Quote:
Originally Posted by DTR
I know you said not to burst your bubble but last i heard, Geno (BoxGods) didn't sell them that version and there was a bit of a serious falling out between them.
I would love a delrin T3 but I can't see primochill giving us them for free.
They cost a small fortune to manufacture, do they not?
Also Geno kept the delrin version for himself.
I'm curious where you saw this too. Primochill's site says they are stopping all production and there will be no revisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by DTR
Geno hinted that he still wants to make the Delrin model on his own, but I haven't seen anything more about that myself.
Well I do....thought everyone got that email....or maybe just people with more serious issues / lucky....I don't know and certainty don't mean to start an issue about it. But yes , that was what I was told....was not specified as private...I guess my bad if it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterlogged
I'd prefer seeing metallic res casing with plastic in only small strip to see coolant level. Should be most crack/leak/overtighten proof :)
I sure hope the Delrin model is on the way and all this is true. It would be nice to have something I'm not looking at daily for Cracks.
There will be delrin pump/resevoirs but not from Primochill me thinks
Or simply put, there could be a legal challange here. If Primochill claims that they bought the design outright, then they may go ahead and make the delrin with improvments and deal with Geno in the courts after the fact. What I remember Geno saying was along the lines that he had other designs (meaning not a T3 type res) that he would push to compete with Primochill's T3. I'm sure he meant they were D5 based bay res's, but not the same layout as the T3.
I'd bet that Brian has way to much invested in their new N. American manufacturing partners to just give up on the D5 bay res idea. When I talked to Brian a few months ago, he made it quite clear that a wholy redesigned T3 was in the works, though he only hinted that delrin may be an option. I think he was seriously thinking about sticking with some sort of acrylic. If a T4 does indeed come out and its only made in acrylic, it will fail from public preception even if it never leaks. They only way to save the idea of the Typhoon is to sell it made from other materials even if it doubles or tripples the cost.
Of course I seem to remember a few months back that Gabe said they were looking into a new head design as a revision for the D5. No telling when something like that would happen, but if it makes a big improvement then that will lessen the need for something like the Typhoon that much more. Might as well stick to the little micro res or T-lines at that point if you build with a D5, as XPSC pretty much has the 350/355 res's covered.
While I'd bet that the "T4" is going to happen, I wouldnt hold my breath that it will be in the next month or two. I'd say end of summer and maybe end of year. Also, if its only acrylic then expect a heavy, negative backlash right off the bat. I'd aslo guess that Geno would be a bit more vocal about getting a new project off the ground if he were about too and we really havent heard from him in a while (at least on this subject). Gabe seem to just enjoy logging in before he goes to bed and saying "here is our brand new ****" and bam, there it is. No real advanced notice, nothing to plan with. The new waer cooling object is just for sale and thats that (which I kinda get a kick out of).
Id recommend just doing your build on whats out there and dont wait on these guy's. There really is no telling when it of it will happen and its not worthing waiting forever and a day for some small performance improvement that has yet to prove itself as reliable. Just my two cents on the subject. ^_^
Never mind Delrin, once we work out how to stop leaks we are working on a Bay-Res made from Lego and if that doesn't work we're going employ my mother to knit one out of pure lambs wool but you got to run Comfort in your loop to keep it nice and soft :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
There's three big things to take away from the Typhoon 3, IMO.
1) Parallel setups can be a great thing if done right--and the overall design of the T3 does get it right. With a really restrictive set of components, you can get surprisingly good flowrates through all of them compared to what you would get with a serial configuration of the same components.
2) KISS method needs to be taken into account here. The barb compatibility of the T3 is beyond subpar--BP with larger o-rings is, IMO, the best option in nearly every scenario (so I didn't have any leakage since that's my standard MO), but the scary thing was how many commonly used barbs would leak. Stock BP barbs seemed to be hit or miss, but mostly miss. Additionally, weak materials prevented 'compatibility via brute force' for non-ideal barbs and overall, the intended overt compatibility with the Primochill Ghost fittings was potentially causing many of the problems. The collar design on the Ghost fittings is pretty different compared to what almost every other barb out there uses. Hopefully future products (from both Geno and Primochill) can learn from this kind of designed incompatibility choice. Should have kept it simple with compatibility for every barb out there (like almost every other product has).
3) Structural issues should never occur in this hobby because of the potential for catastrophe (nevermind hardware damage and the $$$/frustration there, but potential data damage from a HDD getting killed is even worse, IMO). Unfortunately, the T3 had structural issues in droves. Even my 8-port that was never mounted in a case, or ever had any screws screwed into it, had begun to crack at the mounting screw locations after a few months. To me, this seems like an execution flaw--probably a choice made to make it cheaper/easier. :shrug:
I will take three of the lambskin ones because I heard you do not even know you are using a resevoir with them.Quote:
Originally Posted by coolmiester
Hey slow down ther fella..........she just started knitting :rofl:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
http://www.coolercases.co.uk/RRR/mother_knitting.jpg
So hows the knitting coming.....Quote:
Originally Posted by coolmiester
Seriously, no comments from any 'insiders?' Its been 23 days since the announcement of no more ver III of the Typhoon and 7 days (by my clock) till the Delrin Typhoon IV version.
Having been patiently running my rig at stock clock (lack of cooling for OC), I'm dying for any news (thought I had matured some...but na).
Are we there yet :D
I 'heard' Danger Den just might be releasing a line of DDC/Dual DDC/D5 delrin resevoirs with mounted pumps in a month or so . . .
Sweet...possible backup plan....that'll keep me quiet for a few days at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
No it won't, now settle down. . .or do I have to turn the car around? :p:Quote:
Originally Posted by DTR
No version IV yet, but I have to say Primochill's communications as of late have been exceptional. Unsolicited and informative - not sure you can ask for more given the situation.
Much better that a mushroom diet - kept in the dark and fed sh*t....lol.
+1
I got an email from PC saying a delrin typhoon IV is going through QA at the moment and would I be sowing an interest.
Of course I would, he'll yeah!
Damnit, now when I'm done with mine I "copied" them :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
Don't rush yourself iandh. I think people would rather buy those of you, than from DD, even though they might be similar or higher quality.
Don't start rushing to release it before DD does. I'd rather have a high quality product that's called 'copied', than a lower quality product rushed to the market just to be innovative *points to the T3*.
So, did Geno actually sell them that design or is this something underhanded on PC's part?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barso
Geno, can you shed some light on this please?
Take your time there is plenty of room fo good products.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexandr0s
I think you're on record as having an 'iron in the fire' - any early photo's or such to wet my whistle?Quote:
Originally Posted by iandh
actually if u want to get nit and picky..Quote:
Originally Posted by iandh
It was EK's introduction of the pump attached res, with the X-Res.
It was absolutely horrible and had nasty vortex issues.
Yes i was a victim of guinea pig during the era.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/IMG_0830.jpg
Ultimately tho you can say Eddie copied this idea..
I believe it was Mcoffee and i who were the first to introduce this type of setup, and Eddy Stepp'd it 1 by making it 1 design.
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...a/IMG_0006.jpg
You can tell the age on it by looking at the OG DD coupler.. the only one of its kind in that time circa.
Also the Petra Tops kinda give the age away also. :P
Im sure i beat the other guys to it... im not sure if i beat Andy tho..
Naekuh: i was thinking about buying EK dual pump top with res mounted on it, you say it's not worth it, and better separate res?
CptCrunch said he came up with the idea but then he thinks he invented the intraweb as well
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Originally Posted by churchy
did i say that?
The only thing i would say is that you would get better performance by separating the pumps.
Im not really fond of dual pump tops, TBH... the whole point in my case is redundancy... having them as 1 complex kinda kills the idea of having to swap out without major reworking.
I do use 2 dual tops tho because of space and aestetic reasons.
I use a XSPC dual top with a EK res in the same fashion (GPU) ... i should take pictures of it to show.
And my HWLux requires a special way to configure it so i get all my flow. (Cpu)
This is how my pump complex looks like:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...s/IMG_0950.jpg
The only way to make it work with both inlet was like this:
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p...i/IMG_1352.jpg
Actually i dont think anyone but me on this forum is using the HWLux in there setup with both inlets.
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Originally Posted by DarthBeavis
Well i dont know if he beat me.
I am fairly sure i was one of the first tho.. this circa was even b4 u became really popular on XS.
It was when Stew, aka cathar, and scott were posting like 10 posts per day.
But DB im sure you remember that coupler.. there was no otherway to connect the two clean without that coupler.
And i am pretty sure i was one of the first with that coupler.
I think he just says after the fact that people stole his idea . . . :ROTF:Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
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Originally Posted by NaeKuh
I'd like to avoid vortex issues, as i'll have rad on top with inlets pointing down, and would prefer avoid vortex catching additional mini air bubbles that most probably would end up in rad requiring extra often performed deaerating of rad by skewing case yet again.Quote:
Originally Posted by NaeKuh
Yup, i want dual top for redundancy reasons (for loop to perform even with lesser flow but for few weeks untill i'll buy/recieve replacement pump.Quote:
Im not really fond of dual pump tops, TBH... the whole point in my case is redundancy...
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I do use 2 dual tops tho because of space and aestetic reasons.
And dual top instead of two single tops for same space&aestetic reasons.